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PoliticsRe: Thugs Attack Akeredolu’s Supporters, Destroy Campaign Vehicle (Photos) by SaintBeehot(m): 8:08am On Jun 22, 2020
millhouse:
oh forgive my manners pls, I forgot I was referring to your Lord and master .. let me rephrase pls “ saint Tinubu, the one that is more righteous than the pope , more holier than John d baptist , more perfect than Angel Gabriel ! Please come and lead us through the land of Canaan !!

Guess this will make you happier now ...Bye !
you better don't kill yourself. This man had being a threat to your father, yet they did him no harm. So who are you my brother?
PoliticsRe: Trump Planned Stopping $1.5bn Aid To Nigeria –ex-nsa by SaintBeehot(m): 7:59am On Jun 22, 2020
DelTel:
I hope the read your explanation and understands it, else most of them will start saying they should share it to everyone grin
grin they should share it.
PoliticsRe: Thugs Attack Akeredolu’s Supporters, Destroy Campaign Vehicle (Photos) by SaintBeehot(m): 9:21pm On Jun 21, 2020
millhouse:
Tinubu doing some shadow boxing there
he has alway being a threat to you, even when he said nothing.

CelebritiesRe: Davido Performing Live Show For Kids At A Beach by SaintBeehot(m): 6:13pm On Jun 21, 2020
Onyi22:
Awwww so romantic, I felt like crying after watching d video, Davido is every woman's dream man, he's so cute, romantic, rich, caring and fun to be..
He's my MVP and I ❤ him always
you too like money
CelebritiesRe: DJ Cuppy Dumps Arsenal After Defeat, Cries by SaintBeehot(m): 4:59pm On Jun 21, 2020
YorubaKinging:
Irrevelant girl

I know you'll blast me , that who Is my father?

But I've stored my treasure in heaven, id rather be poor here than to lose heaven

Meanwhile otedola wey no get two head has done many evil things to be who he is today and he will pay for it

Even his children too, one is already paying for it
only poverty can make you think like this.
PoliticsRe: Edo APC Rejects Gov. Uzodinma Led Committee On Primary by SaintBeehot(m): 4:09pm On Jun 21, 2020
seunmsg:
Obaseki has failed Edo people - PDP.
grin Nigerian can dig up past Nice job. your support for our party is gives me hope we could win the election.
PoliticsRe: Edo APC Rejects Gov. Uzodinma Led Committee On Primary by SaintBeehot(m): 3:27pm On Jun 21, 2020
Validated:
Unfortunately you are not in Edo State to shout them down. The next is for them to get a court ruling nullifying the primaries. You do not fight a bull in a china shop. That would be stupid. But APC represents everything stupid.
some of you don't reason before you talk; i don't mean to be offensive but you should know that the Edo state chapter of APC, is less Relevant since a direct primary is Involve now.
PoliticsRe: Can Resolution By The House Majority Be Legitimate Without The Speaker's Accent? by SaintBeehot(m): 3:18pm On Jun 21, 2020
seunmsg:
You are a clown. It is not even necessary for the speaker or deputy speaker to be available for the house to seat and take a decision. Once a quorum is formed, the available lawmakers can elect a speaker pro tempore and carry out the business of the day. Whatever decision they reach is binding on all members of the house.
really! please can go deeper?
CultureRe: The Story Of The Benin's Kingdom In Connection To Oduduwa's Dynasty In Ile Ife! by SaintBeehot(m): 8:19am On Jun 21, 2020
tomakint:
Yoruba and Benin Kingdoms: 
The missing gap of history
 
By
 
Kunle Sowunmi 
 
culled from VANGUARD Thursday, May 20, 2004 

The source of Yoruba from Benin is very authentic.

THE statement credited to Oba Erediauwa Omonoba Uku
Akpolokpolo, that the Yoruba race originated from
Benin Kingdom, was very rich in details and calls for
re-examination by historians of high repute from all
the Nigerian Universities and recognised institutions
not from uneducated and bias sources of chambers or
shrines of some Obas or traditional rulers as
presently being envisaged or contemplated. The
statement from Ooni of Ife disputing the fact of Oba
of Benin was not strong enough.

I was fascinated by the different versions of
uncoordinated folk stories we were told about the
origin of the Yoruba.  As a Yoruba man from Abeokuta I
was told Oduduwa was the first man created by God just
like the Bible said Adam and Eve were the first to be
created by God.

The Bible says Cain the only surviving child of Adam
and Eve went to another city called Nod to marry his
wife. The question is who created the wife, the wife's
parents or the family of the in-law if any. Just like
I asked in my innocent mind as a student in the
primary school then who created Oduduwa and how did
Oduduwa marry his wife? My Teacher never told me the
answer.  We were even told Oduduwa was the son of
Lamurudu from far East in Saudi Arabia and that some
of  ourYoruba cousin can be found in Uganda.  Many
conflicting stories which are very difficult to prove
or  binding on history.

These are some of the missing gaps of history.

 Oduduwa had sixteen children we were told and the
eldest was Orangun of Ila and the Egbas in Abeokuta
were descendants of the female child of Oduduwa named
Alaketu. None ever disputed the fact that Oranmiyan
the last born of Oduduwa also ruled the Benin Kingdom.
Why did Benin allowed the last child of Oduduwa to be
made a king over them or his descendants, if there was
no blue blood connection?  Oba of Benin gave a
detailed account of fact of history that are very
difficult to dispute.

The Yoruba share so many things in common with the
Edo's in names and culture, which must be the reason
why it is very difficult to dispute the version of
Omonoba Uku Akpolokpolo

Again, to the Bible, Adam and Eve never told or shown
Cain the only surviving child the Garden of Eden where
God created them, just like Oduduwa never shown the
place and real evidence how he was created by God.
Archeologically, the Yoruba race is not more than 2000
years meaning other tribes existed before the Oduduwa
appearance. None availability of any other serious
fact to negate this lend credibility to Oba Benin's
version.

Two  versions of  history

Both version of History from Oba of Benin and Yoruba
agreed that Oramiyan the last son of Oduduwa returned
to Ife from Benin after he installed his son, Eweka
the first as Oba of Benin.  He met  his father Oduduwa
who was very advanced in age and blind, more also all
properties had been shared and distributed among his
fifteen brothers and sisters. Alternatively, seven
brothers according to Oba of Benin, Oduduwa was at a
dilemma on what to do because he assumed Benin Kingdom
would be enough as Oranmiyan's inheritance. Both
version of history agreed that the name Benin meant
"the land of the annoyed" because Oranmiyan left the
place in annoyance. Again, Oba of Benin was right on
this. 

Oduduwa found an easy way out. He gave Oranmiyan his
staff as symbol to show his brothers and sisters to be
able to collect ten percent of revenue derived from
yearly harvest through out Yoruba land. With this,
Oranmiyan was able to collect over 150 percent of all
the returns throughout the uncoordinated kingdom.
Oduduwa also grudgingly agreed to allow his last son
Oranmiyan to be king at Ile Ife after his death. The
reason for this was unknown as this was against the
custom and tradition of giving priority to first child
or son who was Ila of Irangun.  On the other hand,
could it be said that Orangun was too afraid to
challenge his junior brother or Oranmiyan was indeed
the senior? This is something the present Orangun of
Ila should explain.

Oduduwa was primarily a priest and voodoo man. It is
said until today that it is only one day that is free
of ritual worship in Ile Ife and the day is never made
public. Oduduwa took vacation just for one day. In one
of the ritual ceremonies where nobody was allowed to
be seen outside, a foreign woman of no means of
tracing her background was captured and was to be used
as scarifices for the gods. She was later spared
because she was found to be pregnant beside, it was
against ritual requirement. The child from the woman
was dedicated to the gods and act as a servant to
assist Oduduwa in his day-to-day ritual and voodoo
job. The child was named Ooni: meaning "this is Spared
One"

After the death of Oduduwa his son, Oranmiyan was
invited to take over the job of his father, which was
primarily ritual and voodoo, as well as traditional
ruler of Ile Ife. Oranmiyan refused because he had
succeeded in building an economically viable place at
Oyo Ile with administratively sound method of
government around the Oyomesi council in chief and it
would be degrading to leave this and move to Ile Ife
to be involved in  daily ritual sacrifices.

 Oranmiyan gave a condition that he must be buried at
Ife to symbolise his right to Ife thrown. It was on
condition of this that Ooni  the son of the slave
woman that was captured and dedicated to gods that was
assisting Oduduwa continued the work of Oduduwa at
Ife. This is the reason why ALafin of Oyo will never
accept Ooni of Ife as a king or a superior in any
Yoruba gathering of Obas.

Ooni's assumed superiority was a British creation
because the King of England assumed a king at Ife, the
 cradle of Yoruba, must be superior to all Obas just
like the British did in Abeokuta by imposing Alake's
superiority over other Obas at Abeokuta. In case of
Egbas, Sorunke who led the Egbas from Ibadan to the
present Abeokuta was from Oke Ona, where Oba Tejuoso
is the King. This is the reason why there is conflict
between Alake and Osile till date.

Oranmiyan was buried at Ife and not at Oyo, which is
the reason for the Opa Oranyan at Ife till today. Ooni
was not a true son or direct descendant of Oduduwa and
his title was not recognised. Ooni was just his name
which became his title. Ooni like other Yoruba Obas
paid duties to Oranmiyan during and after the death of
Oduduwa.

 This practice stopped after the Oyo Empire was
destroyed. It is rather difficult to accept the Ooni's
version as against the Omonoba Polopolo.  Oranmiyan
was a belligerent person. A war hero and where his
brothers and sister refused to give the yearly ten
percent duty as agreed with the staff of Oduduwa he
would use force. He later appointed his
representatives in each of the kingdoms of Yoruba to
monitor the returns, thus the creation of Oyo Empire
that led to the end of the kingdom Oduduwa created
which was not properly coordinated. The new empire
grew with amazing rapidity throughout West Africa and
was like the Ghana or Shonghai Empire of the medieval
history in the south of Sahara. Oyo Empire started
slave trade to weaken opposition.

An administration like the British

Oranmiyan's administration was the best in Africa and
could be likened to the British system of
Administration during the colonial government. The
empire expanded up to the present Benin republic.
Those who escaped the control of Alafin are the
Yorubas living in Benin Republic, which was formerly
Dahomey, On the East side, Oranmiyan never bothered
Benin Kingdom because of his son, and his son never
looked for him. At least there was no record of
history of any transaction between father and son.
Benin Kingdom continued to progress and Oyo Empire
continued to expand to the west coast. In Lagos, there
could not be a clash, it was a place of reunion for
Edo's and Yoruba it was said Eko, which is Lagos, and
in our local dialect is a Benin word.

Oyo Empire later suffered from over expansion and some
local hero started to emerge to challenge the
authority of the Oyo kingdom or that of the Alafin of
Oyo. Among them was the Lisabi Agboagbo Akala who
liberated the Egbas from Oyo Empire to create a
fearless Egba Kingdom.

 Lisabi was never a king. In fact, he was murdered by
the Alake of Egbaland because of his popularity. Egbas
as a kingdom with its own National Anthem "Lori Oke
ati Pele" was merged with Nigeria by the British
Empire after 1914. In addition, Lagelu emerged from
Ibadan, Ogendegbe from Ijeshaland and Shou of
Ogbomosho and Ilorin through the deserter Chief of
Army Staff of Oyo who was killed by Alimi a Fulani;
thus, the end of Oyo Empire. The attack from the
Sokoto Caliphate from the North finally nailed the
coffin of the Oyo Empire.The collapse of the Oyo
Empire led to the Yoruba Wars.  The present Oyo town
has nothing to do with Old Oyo town, it was just a new
creation to symbolise the memory of the Old.

The Egbas and Ijebus took over the control of
southwest towards the Atlantics because of lucrative
slave trade and closeness to the white man. The
emergence of western civilisation further weakened the
Old Oyo empire, the empire collapsed and the ruminants
of it can still be found at the old site. The irony of
it is  Alafin of Oyo in the present Oyo town 
continued to  live in the memory of his ancestors'
glory of the Old Oyo empire.

In conclusion, Ooni who is not a direct son or
descendants of Oduduwa cannot be considered viable in
this discussion, but Alafin of Oyo must examine his
place in history and that of his senior brother
Orangun of Ila the first son who had disappeared into
history because he never challenged Oranmiyan. The
abdication of the thrown is a loss of right. However,
can a son be greater than his father? or can a river
be greater than its source? The source of Yoruba from
Benin is very authentic than Saudi Arabia or Lamurudu,
which cannot be traced, in Saudi Arabian history.

https://www.edo-nation.net/sowunmi1.htm
all you said were prove but your Source is the only problem the Edo people has no right tell history because they were Mere slave to the people of Benin; i would accept other source but not http://edo-nation.net
PoliticsRe: Oluremi Tinubu, Sanwo-Olu, Obasa Are Not Lagosians - Bode George by SaintBeehot(m): 6:29pm On Jun 20, 2020
Grayoso:
You're not Yoruba because no genuine omoluabi will call Lagos No man's land as you did. Lagos is Yorubaland and all Yorubas know and accept this.

Let’s just say if you're Yoruba then you're not the sort of Yoruba I'd want watching my back. No man's land my azz. Why not go further and say it is the turn of Igbos to produce Lagos governor for the sake of 'equity'. Nonsense.
my thought was that since it was once the FCT it has been Seperated from the western region.
CultureRe: The Story Of The Benin's Kingdom In Connection To Oduduwa's Dynasty In Ile Ife! by SaintBeehot(m): 6:23pm On Jun 20, 2020
orisa37:
I mean "ATETE MOLE OLE MOLOKO". "OGBOJU OLE LO NKA WU". BEFORE THE YORUBAS DISGRACE THE BENIS BY TELLING THEM THEIR TRUE HISTORY, THE BENIS HAVE STARTED LYING. IT'S A SHAMELESS THIEF THAT'LL COME FROM NOWHERE INTO YOUR COMPOUND WHILE YOU'RE THERE AND START REMOVING YOUR WASHING ON YOUR LINES..
cheesy that one is normal for them (lies) It's better we tell them now before they feel their fathers had land somewhere.
PoliticsRe: Oluremi Tinubu, Sanwo-Olu, Obasa Are Not Lagosians - Bode George by SaintBeehot(m): 6:14pm On Jun 20, 2020
blakkydikky:
Go and claim it,then.
i'm a Yoruba guy, i've been corrected i was wrong.
CultureRe: The Story Of The Benin's Kingdom In Connection To Oduduwa's Dynasty In Ile Ife! by SaintBeehot(m): 5:21pm On Jun 20, 2020
orisa37:
Just bold face.
go deeper bro cheesy
CultureRe: The Story Of The Benin's Kingdom In Connection To Oduduwa's Dynasty In Ile Ife! by SaintBeehot(m): 4:19pm On Jun 20, 2020
cheesy so Edo are ordinary slave, if so why do they like making trouble(the ones i've seen). A slave is expected to be alway gentle and obedient!
PoliticsRe: Oluremi Tinubu, Sanwo-Olu, Obasa Are Not Lagosians - Bode George by SaintBeehot(m): 3:49pm On Jun 20, 2020
9gerian:
Epe (Ijebu), Ikorodu (Ijebu), Badagry (Egun), Ibeju Lekki (Mixed), Isheri Olofin / Ikeja (Awori), Eko (Awori, Bini, Tapa and other Yoruba with mixed ancestors), etc

In other words: Ijebus, Egun, Awori, Tapa and Binis account for most of the indigenous people of Lagos State.

For some clarity:

https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Lagos_State,_Nigeria_Genealogy

Lagos State was created on May 27, 1967 by virtue of State (Creation and Transitional Provisions) Decree No. 14 of 1967, which restructured Nigeria’s Federation into 12 states.

While the State is essentially a Yoruba-speaking environment, it is a socio-cultural melting pot attracting both Nigerians and foreigners alike.

Indigenous inhabitants include the Aworis and Eguns in Ikeja and Badagry Divisions respectively, with the Eguns being found mainly in Badagry.

There is also an admixture of other pioneer settlers collectively known as the Ekos.

The indigenes of Ikorodu and Epe Divisions are mainly the Ijebus with pockets of Eko-Awori settlers along the coastland and riverine areas.

And:

https://m.guardian.ng/opinion/ownership-of-lagos-between-distortion-and-obvious-facts/

In nomenclature, none indigenes are usually unable to know the difference between Eko, Lagos and Lagos State. For comprehension, Eko, the domain in which Oba Rilwan Aremu Akiolu is the traditional head belongs to Aromire. It is the space from Obalende to Idumota ( that is Lagos Island). This is different from Lagos which starts from Victoria Island, Lagos Island (Eko), Lagos Mainland up to Jibowu, Apapa, Surulere up to Akangba. This was the Federal Capital Territory of Nigeria. Lagos State on the other hand consists of the entire Lagos and its colonies of Badagry, Epe, Ikeja and Ikorodu.
thanks i never knew this much before.
PoliticsRe: Former Recharge Card Seller Said To Be Third Most Powerful Nigerian by SaintBeehot(m): 2:35pm On Jun 20, 2020
Is this the proper headline huh
PoliticsRe: Oluremi Tinubu, Sanwo-Olu, Obasa Are Not Lagosians - Bode George by SaintBeehot(m): 2:08pm On Jun 20, 2020
Amatarasha:
grin grin grin e pain am ,but in ur photo dey only bow dia head ,not slaving about dia futures 4 a plate of gbegiri ati ewedu

PoliticsRe: Oluremi Tinubu, Sanwo-Olu, Obasa Are Not Lagosians - Bode George by SaintBeehot(m): 2:02pm On Jun 20, 2020
Amatarasha:
U have items to sell in Lagos,after u will claim igbos have possessed all ur properties ,tinubu come n save u jati jati

PoliticsRe: Oluremi Tinubu, Sanwo-Olu, Obasa Are Not Lagosians - Bode George by SaintBeehot(m): 1:45pm On Jun 20, 2020
OROSUNBOLB:
Yes, we know. It is part of the south east !
i'm not igbo i'm from osun state.
PoliticsRe: Oluremi Tinubu, Sanwo-Olu, Obasa Are Not Lagosians - Bode George by SaintBeehot(m): 1:14pm On Jun 20, 2020
suco01:
Epe was under ijebu. it was hijacked by Lagos.
thanks i knew little about that before
PoliticsRe: Oluremi Tinubu, Sanwo-Olu, Obasa Are Not Lagosians - Bode George by SaintBeehot(m): 1:03pm On Jun 20, 2020
Alaska90:
How can you come online and just what you don't know about.....which part of Lagos state are you talking about?

Badagry, Ojo awori, isheri olofin, lagos island, isolo etc ?

For your information most part of Lagos state are originally owned by Yoruba Awori not by Yoruba Ijebu in Epe

And know it that there is difference between Lagos State and Lagos same with Ondo state and Ondo town
but do know Lagos is no longer a part of the western region ?
PoliticsRe: Oluremi Tinubu, Sanwo-Olu, Obasa Are Not Lagosians - Bode George by SaintBeehot(m): 9:48am On Jun 20, 2020
abu12:
they will shift attention to IBO's in Lagos now, they will use IBO's to settled scores. just watch and see. so don't celebrate yet.
for sure i expected that.
PoliticsRe: Oluremi Tinubu, Sanwo-Olu, Obasa Are Not Lagosians - Bode George by SaintBeehot(m):
modified.
I was wrong and i've been Corrected.
PoliticsRe: Another Primary School Completed By Prof.zulum by SaintBeehot(m): 5:59pm On Jun 18, 2020
I think it's high time we stop commending this northern governors, for sowing on a barren land. This people won't go to school. We all knew how many schools Goodluck built for them, did they attend any ?
PoliticsRe: PDP Postpones Edo Gubernatorial Election Primary Election Until June 23 by SaintBeehot(m): 5:51pm On Jun 18, 2020
kolade560:
Your party is Nigeria's problem.
everybody is entitle to their personal thought. So if you think we're problem, i'll accept that is in your own point of view.
PoliticsRe: PDP Postpones Edo Gubernatorial Election Primary Election Until June 23 by SaintBeehot(m): 5:40pm On Jun 18, 2020
kolade560:
see dem see dem....one of the problems of this country spotted.
Oshiomole butt licker
i'm no asslicker. i'm only in support of my party here, so don't misqoute me.
PoliticsRe: PDP Postpones Edo Gubernatorial Election Primary Election Until June 23 by SaintBeehot(m): 5:14pm On Jun 18, 2020
Confused set of people. even with obaseki gone, we know how to play our game n' win!
PoliticsRe: EFCC Arrest Man For Stealing Bag Of Money At Their Event by SaintBeehot(m): 1:38pm On Jun 18, 2020
cheesy Omo people get mind o
PoliticsRe: Removed by SaintBeehot(m): 1:34pm On Jun 18, 2020
grin grin play play. You too like play
PoliticsRe: EXCLUSIVE: African Union Disqualifies Okonjo-Iweala From Vying For WTO DG by SaintBeehot(m): 11:55am On Jun 18, 2020
seunmsg:
I don’t think so. Age can contest without the support of AU.
what they're trying to do here is; trying to strengthen the relation between their members. Egypt won't be happy if she get elected, they'd think Nigeria is trying to play a fast one.
PoliticsRe: EXCLUSIVE: African Union Disqualifies Okonjo-Iweala From Vying For WTO DG by SaintBeehot(m): 11:46am On Jun 18, 2020
TripleOh7:
With the way she ran Nigeria's economy aground, she's probably not qualified anyway.

If we have to put a southeasterner there, I'd have preferred Soludo.

But it's obviously too late anyway.

Ngozi Okonjo Iweala should pay for messing up Nigeria's economy as the coordinating minister of the economy under kleptomaniac Good luck Jonathan.
this your Bigotry is on another level, Nigeria is in consideration here and not any region in Nigeria.
PoliticsRe: EXCLUSIVE: African Union Disqualifies Okonjo-Iweala From Vying For WTO DG by SaintBeehot(m): 11:43am On Jun 18, 2020
Racoon:
The substitution window was still open then so what is the problem? This is just an AU underground Diplomatic schemings.
AU also has Protocols and law which must be followed in order to strengthen the cooperataion between it member state.

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