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saintjoel:
THERE ARE ACTUAL DEALERS WITH CLEAN TITLED CARS WITH THE RIGHT ODOMETER BUT THEY TEND TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE ONES WITH ONE OR TWO ISSUES. THE REASON WHY DAN AND EMILLE WORK WITH IS JUST THAT DAN KNOWS HOW TO CHECK A CAR AND WITHIN RUNNING A VIN CHECK, HE KNOWS IF THE CAR HAS MAJOR/MINOR ISSUES WHILE EMILLE IS ALSO A QUALIFIED MECHANIC TOO.

WITH THE RISING COST OF EXCHANGE RATES AND CLEARING,CUSTOMERS SOMETIMES SEARCH FOR CARS WITH MINOR ISSUES COS IT'S CHEAPER THAN A CLEAN TITLED CAR, IT'S ONLY WHEN THEY CAN REALLY AFFORD,WHENEVER YOU TELL PROSPECTIVE CUSTOMERS THAT EVEN IN AMERICA, CLEAN TITLED CARS ARE ALWAYS EXPENSIVE,THEY THINK THAT YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND AT THE END OF THEIR TRIP INTO COTONOU, THEY TEND TOBSPEND MORE THAN THEY BARGAINED FOR.

I HAD THESE ARGUMENTS WITH A PROSPECTIVE CUSTOMER AND AFTER ALL THE INSULTS, HE FELL INTI THE HANDS OF THE "CUSTOM AUCTION SCAMMERS" AND BELIEVE ME, IT'S ALWAYS A HUGE TASK TRYING TO GET BARGAINS FOR CLEAN TITLED CARS BUT WE'VE ALWAYS TRIED TO BE ABOVE BOARD..

bravolad:
The following morning the search for my choice of car began. We moved from one park to another inspecting different ones albeit running vin report to ascertain the state of
I must point out that most of the cars brought into Cotonou are accident cars as well. The same scenario we have in Lagos where dealers sell accident & flood cars to unsuspecting buyers. Another major shocking discovery I made was that Cotonou car dealers also alter mileage (odometer rollback). We all know the reason for this practice. This is why vin report is vital to a car purchase.

However, there are a handful of dealers who deal on clean tittles also. So we started moving around parks again, especially those known to sell non-accident cars. At about 2.30 pm we saw a car of my choice with a clean vin report.

bravolad:
. At some point, I almost had to separate fight between him & one of the agents Daniel. The reason for this quarrel was because Daniel is well experienced & can easily spot a car that have been involved in an accident. There was a 2010 xle we saw, very clean but he said it's an accident car & that we should move ahead but SaintJoel insisted we run a vin check. Daniel didn't want me to waste the money. So a serious quarrel broke up. It turned out that Daniel was absolutely correct. A vin report confirmed it.

This is where the struggle for clearing started.

Stay tuned....

saintjoel:
Want to purchase vehicles from Cotonou and clear through land borders, Jelad ventures is your surest link.

With years of experience in purchasing vehicles, Jelad ventures is in the top league and we don't boast about it cos our handiwork speaks for us.

If you decide to purchase through Cotonou and clear through borders,jelad ventures sacrifices time and effort to make sure that your vehicles leave the parks and gets to your homes in the same pristine condition that it left it departure port.

To even hasten the whole process, we can get your custom duty and vehicle registration done before the it's arrival at the border...

Our experience has also taught us that haste is always needed cos delay might destroy our reputation as registered brokers and also create dents in the pockets of importers. Jelad ventures manages to do it's job within the dictates of ANLCA and the Nigerian Customs Service.

Our after service record also is one in town, with dedicated mechanic workshops like AUTOMEDICS and other mechanics spread around Lagos and OGUN state, we make sure that minor/major faults can be fixed before it leaves our offices and also do pickups for servicing and maintenance after delivery....

What else would you ask for from a broker that has learnt lessons from its highs and lows, we've aged and now have the experience to handle your cargo and vehicles with superb skills.....

CALL/ CONTACT GBENGA (AKOGUN) ON
08062948193(whatsapp)

07053938306 (whatsapp)

BB PIN - 7AD701BC

BBM CHANNEL - C004388F4

Twitter- @jeladventures

Google+- jeladventuress@gmail.com

****** WE ALSO PROCESS DUTY PAPERS FOR VEHICLES/FREIGHTS SHIPPED/PURCHASED THROUGH/FROM COTONOU OR TINCAN...

****** JELAD VENTURES IS ALSO INTO PROCESSING OF PLATE NUMBERS FOR VEHICLES ,DRIVER'S LICENSES (INTERNATIONAL AND NIGERIAN),COMPREHENSIVE INSURANCE,CAR TRACKING, PRE-ORDER OF VEHICLES FROM AMERICA/EUROPE ETC.

bravolad:
Good evening Nairalanders,

I decided to share my experience of buying a car from Cotonou with Gbenga (SaintJoel; Jelad ventures). I share this experience so that intending buyers & members can learn from my experience & avoid my mistakes. It was indeed my first time to buy a car in Cotonou.

Do you remember this thread https://www.nairaland.com/3137468/useful-advice-buying-paying-required
When I sought to know if I could buy a car in Cotonou & proceed to make Custom duty payment by myself. I recall a few people commented on it. Please read through to get the crux of the matter.

To be continued....

saintjoel:
Want to purchase vehicles from Cotonou and clear through land borders, Jelad ventures is your surest link.

With years of experience in purchasing vehicles, Jelad ventures is in the top league and we don't boast about it cos our handiwork speaks for us.

If you decide to purchase through Cotonou and clear through borders,jelad ventures sacrifices time and effort to make sure that your vehicles leave the parks and gets to your homes in the same pristine condition that it left it departure port.

To even hasten the whole process, we can get your custom duty and vehicle registration done before the it's arrival at the border...

Our experience has also taught us that haste is always needed cos delay might destroy our reputation as registered brokers and also create dents in the pockets of importers. Jelad ventures manages to do it's job within the dictates of ANLCA and the Nigerian Customs Service.

Our after service record also is one in town, with dedicated mechanic workshops like AUTOMEDICS and other mechanics spread around Lagos and OGUN state, we make sure that minor/major faults can be fixed before it leaves our offices and also do pickups for servicing and maintenance after delivery....

What else would you ask for from a broker that has learnt lessons from its highs and lows, we've aged and now have the experience to handle your cargo and vehicles with superb skills.....

CALL/ CONTACT GBENGA (AKOGUN) ON
08062948193(whatsapp)

07053938306 (whatsapp)

BB PIN - 7AD701BC

BBM CHANNEL - C004388F4

Twitter- @jeladventures

Google+- jeladventuress@gmail.com

****** WE ALSO PROCESS DUTY PAPERS FOR VEHICLES/FREIGHTS SHIPPED/PURCHASED THROUGH/FROM COTONOU OR TINCAN...

****** JELAD VENTURES IS ALSO INTO PROCESSING OF PLATE NUMBERS FOR VEHICLES ,DRIVER'S LICENSES (INTERNATIONAL AND NIGERIAN),COMPREHENSIVE INSURANCE,CAR TRACKING, PRE-ORDER OF VEHICLES FROM AMERICA/EUROPE ETC.

saintjoel:
Want to purchase vehicles from Cotonou and clear through land borders, Jelad ventures is your surest link.

With years of experience in purchasing vehicles, Jelad ventures is in the top league and we don't boast about it cos our handiwork speaks for us.

If you decide to purchase through Cotonou and clear through borders,jelad ventures sacrifices time and effort to make sure that your vehicles leave the parks and gets to your homes in the same pristine condition that it left it departure port.

To even hasten the whole process, we can get your custom duty and vehicle registration done before the it's arrival at the border...

Our experience has also taught us that haste is always needed cos delay might destroy our reputation as registered brokers and also create dents in the pockets of importers. Jelad ventures manages to do it's job within the dictates of ANLCA and the Nigerian Customs Service.

Our after service record also is one in town, with dedicated mechanic workshops like AUTOMEDICS and other mechanics spread around Lagos and OGUN state, we make sure that minor/major faults can be fixed before it leaves our offices and also do pickups for servicing and maintenance after delivery....

What else would you ask for from a broker that has learnt lessons from its highs and lows, we've aged and now have the experience to handle your cargo and vehicles with superb skills.....

CALL/ CONTACT GBENGA (AKOGUN) ON
08062948193(whatsapp)

07053938306 (whatsapp)

BB PIN - 7AD701BC

BBM CHANNEL - C004388F4

Twitter- @jeladventures

Google+- jeladventuress@gmail.com

****** WE ALSO PROCESS DUTY PAPERS FOR VEHICLES/FREIGHTS SHIPPED/PURCHASED THROUGH/FROM COTONOU OR TINCAN...

****** JELAD VENTURES IS ALSO INTO PROCESSING OF PLATE NUMBERS FOR VEHICLES ,DRIVER'S LICENSES (INTERNATIONAL AND NIGERIAN),COMPREHENSIVE INSURANCE,CAR TRACKING, PRE-ORDER OF VEHICLES FROM AMERICA/EUROPE ETC.

saintjoel:
Well maintained Register Honda Civic 2013 for sale.

Transmission: Automatic
Mileage: 37,354
Door Count: 4
Colour: Grey Metallic
Year: 2013
Engine - 4 plugs.


Features
•Air Conditioning
•Alloy Wheels
*Bluetooth
•Cup Holders
•Electric Mirrors / Windows
•Fog Lights/ Lamps
•Power Steering
•Reverse Camera
*IPoD/ USB DRIVE INBUILT PORT

*Reason for Sale: Leaving the country for masters.*

*_Price_*:- N2,500,000 (Negotiable)
*_Call_*: 08062948193

jajajaja828:
How much is Lexus 330 n 350 in Cotonou. What's d difference bw d two. The price n d custom duty. Advice.

Dollaz:
Greetings sir . Plz what's the asking price for a rx300 Lexus jeep.
Or Toyota Camry drop light .
Thanks

charlesadeoye:
Oga joel. Whats the cost of a 2002 honda accord v6 ex full option and a 2005 madza 6 v6 full option?. With duties going to cost. Clean and affordable mileages. Thanks for your prompt response

bobbyspeed:
Is 650k clearing cost only or total inclusive cost of purchase and clearing. Pls throw more light

Damianking:
Hello, am a young man in my 30's. Am based and work in an African country. Am planning for my wedding by November/December. I need to buy a car at the range of 1m naira and use it for my wedding then after the wedding I will give it out to my young brother, which car will you recommend for me excluding the costume duty , I await your reply.

Billiondoe:
Please how much is it to clear 09 Honda Accord discussion continue?

suretx:
Hello, how much to clear a 2003 Volvo S40 coming to Tincan?

sultaan:
So do we have a problem with the system in Nigeria? Yes

Government dictates money to be collected, agents make payment on behalf of clients, clients register cars with government, now government is harassing clients all over the country claiming they didn't pay enough or nothing but yet the Government had registered the vehicle. So the problem here is the system created by the government and both agents and customs exploit it why not have duty checked at registration I can buy a car and not pay tax but will have to pay tax to register and get a plate.

The idea that government made importation illegal is what makes this corruption flourish. We are backward because we penalize everything that make society flourish.

Sometimes you have to see how successful systems operate before you understand why the one you are used to seem stagnant.

Remember all these started not because agents are not doing their job but people being harassed for things that has been cleared through all the checks and the final check is registration

sultaan:
Can you please state the line within the constitution which establishes clearing agents as part of its operation.

NURTW is a body with agents too.

It the role of this body has changed from facilitating to that of inhibition then it has to be pointed out by those who see things clearly from the outside.

A page was posted earlier with some numbers as duty rate but is this from the ministry of finance or as approved by the parliament or someone came up with this in the custom office.
What's is the page on their site that states the duty?
Why can't anyone use that web rate to make payment and pick up their goods.

What is the flat rate an agent charges to clear goods? 5-10%?

Agents was created by a group of people as a tool that liaise with customs to expedite clearing of goods based on the process it has to go through to clear customs imagine a shipment which has to go through NAFDAC, and SON here is where the agent makes things easy passing through agencies.

Someone just said 90% of people clear their thing in Zimbabwe if 70% can't do it in Nigeria shouldn't that be considered a problem.

I said a prayer once and I'll repeat saintjoel will by clearing shiploads and cargoes instead of cars. All these arguments be cause we are behind Zimbabwe

sultaan:
Well in Nigeria, there is a format that allows you to clear your goods yourself, but since the custom officers get kickback by acting inept, the agents come in to "help" navigate through the "highly" sophisticated process of clearing a CAR.

It seems the more complicated this process it the more money made on the side.

Remember there is no law that establishes agents, not part of the government, there access to the port should be the same as everyone else, but in Nigeria you have to go through them for anything dealing with the customs.It is a relationship that only benefits both parties.

Any car smuggled to Nigeria has had duty paid in another country because Nigeria is dysfunctional.

sultaan:
Well in Nigeria, there is a format that allows you to clear your goods yourself, but since the custom officers get kickback by acting inept, the agents come in to "help" navigate through the "highly" sophisticated process of clearing a CAR.

It seems the more complicated this process it the more money made on the side.

Remember there is no law that establishes agents, not part of the government, there access to the port should be the same as everyone else, but in Nigeria you have to go through them for anything dealing with the customs.It is a relationship that only benefits both parties.

Any car smuggled to Nigeria has had duty paid in another country because Nigeria is dysfunctional.

richkol:
Thanks sir for your response. I think I will just stick to your advice and I hope I will not be intimidated by their "shakara ". I was also thinking d make up payment will be around d 100k mark and below, never knew it will be that high.
I have also tried calling my dealer for d agent's number but his line is switch off. I want relate all you have written to him and analyze his response for me to have a clearer picture of where I stand.

saintjoel:
Sir, there's no way you won't spend almost N150,000 to raise your bank charges, so my advice is that you leave it the way it is. If the BOL indicates that it was accidented,does it reflect in the BOL amongst the custom documents?

As long as the documents are genuine like you stated, tell your dealer to send his agent's mobile contacts and let him defend his job whenever you're stopped on the highway,if he/she is good in what they do and anytime you're stopped, be confident and don't flinch even under the threat of impound, stand in between politeness and aggressiveness but dont overdo the agressive part, it works most times....

biggiyke:
let me share my experience.

i bought my car, 2012 bmw x3, from cotonou last december. the agent charged me 650k to clear it. in january, i travelled to the east for a burial with my wife and son. i was stopped at benin by customs. they told me that my papers were genuine, but grossly underpaid. it was there that they showed me the actual duty paid was 160k!!! for a 2012 bmw x3!!! me sef i shock o. cos that is way toooooo small.

my saving grace that day was my wife and crying baby. they let me go, after 5k. if i was travelling alone, my car would definitely have been impounded there and then.

when i got back to lagos, i got in touch with a custom officer at zone A, ikeja. i wrote a letter explaining my case and requesting for duty reevaluation of my car. they charged me 2.4m duty and 560k penalty. well, after days and days of negotiation (i made it clear to them that my car was not impounded, rather i reported myself as a law abiding citizen of nigeria), they reduced my duty to 1m and removed the penalty. but i was to bring 200k cash for office boys .

so, a new duty was generated for my car, and i paid 1m at the bank and 200k for boys. the same day, i got my duty papers.

i have travelled twice since then and i have been stopped at shagamu and benin without any issues. they will just ask me to do weekend for boys, normal 1k.

i called the agent that cleared the car and he was giving silly excuses, i just hung up on him and didnt bother calling him ever again.

biggiyke:
let me share my experience.

i bought my car, 2012 bmw x3, from cotonou last december. the agent charged me 650k to clear it. in january, i travelled to the east for a burial with my wife and son. i was stopped at benin by customs. they told me that my papers were genuine, but grossly underpaid. it was there that they showed me the actual duty paid was 160k!!! for a 2012 bmw x3!!! me sef i shock o. cos that is way toooooo small.

my saving grace that day was my wife and crying baby. they let me go, after 5k. if i was travelling alone, my car would definitely have been impounded there and then.

when i got back to lagos, i got in touch with a custom officer at zone A, ikeja. i wrote a letter explaining my case and requesting for duty reevaluation of my car. they charged me 2.4m duty and 560k penalty. well, after days and days of negotiation (i made it clear to them that my car was not impounded, rather i reported myself as a law abiding citizen of nigeria), they reduced my duty to 1m and removed the penalty. but i was to bring 200k cash for office boys .

so, a new duty was generated for my car, and i paid 1m at the bank and 200k for boys. the same day, i got my duty papers.

i have travelled twice since then and i have been stopped at shagamu and benin without any issues. they will just ask me to do weekend for boys, normal 1k.

i called the agent that cleared the car and he was giving silly excuses, i just hung up on him and didnt bother calling him ever again.

bidexiii:
@saintjoel....

bidexiii:
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saintjoel:
Have u ever wondered how you can identify fake custom papers?

All you need to check is what we call "CUSTOMS REFERENCE NUMBER" or c-number on your SGD form *single goods declaration form*.

This particular number is actually used to input details of your vehicle and payment of duty into the customs' database. It shows information like the consignee info ( agency handling your job),the means of entry (road for vehicles through land borders and ports for sea),office of entry (idiroko customs command or seme customs command or tincan port),location of vehicle and place of discharge(idiroko border/seme border,tincan),name and address of person/persons responsible for financial settlement (the owner of the vehicle) etc.

What fraudulent dealers do is called MO or machined outside-this is a process where a forger forges the bank receipts and all customs documentation. The documents look genuine but are not in the customs data base. It is a giant syndicate in the ports and borders because the vehicles are ultimately smuggled out of the ports/borders with conivance of fraudulent customs officials.

At the top right hand corner of your document is a very bold set of numbers. This is the "C" number. You can not miss it because it is so bold and prominent. Underneath it is a date. That date is to reflect the date duty was paid at the bank and stored in the customs ASSYCUDA data base. ASSYCUA means "automated system customs data". And the date under the C number means that that C number was computed into the data system on that date plus all the charges paid. If the payment reflects on the data base it means your documents are genuine,on the other hand if it does not reflect it means your car documents are duds/fake and your vehicle is liable to seizure and confiscation if you are stopped at any check point,if you are on a long distance journey.

My advise to any one buying a car from anybody is to request for the relevant documents in particular the SGD form which means "single goods declaration form" and has the C number boldly written at the top right hand corner. Under the C number is the date that document was posted into the data system.
No two vehicles can have the same C number and date. So armed with this you can visit any customs station to know if your documents are genuine.

With some cotonou smuggled cars showing up on our streets with forged documents as lagos cleared cars and vehicles been M.Od out of ports,this is a stress-free method of verifying your papers.

We have opened this thread for verification of C-numbers from the following points of entry -

1. Lagos port
2. Seme
3. Idiroko.

All you need to do is supply your name,address,VIN and the C-number of the vehicle and we run checks on it.THERE'S NO FIXED CHARGE FOR THE CHECKS BUT WHATEVER THE LORD PUTS IN YOUR HEART AS TIPS CAN BE SENT THROUGH OUR ACCOUNT...

For more information,kindly contact gbenga through the following links-

BBM - 530A7A98

Mobile - 08062948193

Mail - jelad.ventures@yahoo.co.uk and jeladventuress@gmail.com

Whatsapp - 08062948193

Viber - 08062948193

Pix 1 shows the SGD form for a 2007 AUDI Q7 (some details have been blocked to protect the owner's information and the agency that has given us permission to use the form).

Pix 2 shows the Audi Q7 inside Cotonou with a temporary 16hr plate number on it's way to Nigeria.

eromspete:
2008 Audi A4 clearing from Lagos seaport. Quote
Thanks boss