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Mightyhaiz:
funny request..


Can u bring a reference to show actual populations of your group in your own very country Nigeria?


I encounter lots of Igbo traders in port novo ..far more than any other Nigerians there.. If u have ever visited benin,u can attest too

So Igbos are more than Yorubas in Benin where the Benin government themselves recognized Yoruba as an ethnic group with an official population of 12% of the total population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benin

So we shouldn't believe the Benin government but we should believe you because you said you saw Igbo traders in Benin?

You will do well with a career in comedy!

Mightyhaiz:
so Yorubas are more populous because they are found in Benin..? What is the population of the entire Benin?


Do u know the population of Igbo traders in port novo alone?

What is the population of Igbo traders in Porto Novo?

Can you bring us a reference to show their actual population?

pazienza:
Igbo is officially recognized as an ethnic group in Equatorial guinea.
Yoruba is not officially recognized in Togo , Ghana or Sierra Leone.
Only Nigeria and Sierra Leone is Yoruba recognized as an indigenous ethnic group.

Yorubas are recognized officially in Benin.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benin

Yorubas are called Oku people in SierraLeone and they are officially recognized too.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oku_people_(Sierra_Leone)

gomojam:
Waec had come out to disowned the state by state results being bandied around to massage their ego. So do not take it seriously. See link below.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.nairaland.com/5363977/waec-disown-state-state-analysis&ved=2ahUKEwi518Wo7dXpAhX1A2MBHVcyAegQFjAAegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw27jTh5NJi6liLG1uHrBmN3

Thank you. So they are even bandying fake statistics around lol.

rdokoye:
Are you absent-minded? Didn't you dispute the educational results? If you don't believe them, because of the corruption in the Nigerian system, why are you quoting statistics from Nigeria to me?

This isn't about truth with you. This is about emotions.

If you want to spend the rest of your days, lying to yourself, then fine. You're not convincing me, and you're most certainly not convincing the generality of Yoruba people. They know the truth, that's why they'll NEVER push for their own independent country.

LOL!

CAC registration is gotten directly from the issuing agency and that can’t be doctored. Even if you say the doctored the IGR, GDP, SMEs figures, there are several WorldBank and UNDP reports that also clearly showed the states of the SW are performing better than their counterparts in the country on average.

I am not disputing WAEC report from the source, I am just telling you the menace of WAEC and the gross malpractices that always happen in that sector such that parents register for special centers for their wards and I’m not flattered by the results.

WAEC issued what they have at hand and I am not doubting the record, all I’m just telling you is what I thought about it and what you yourself know about the cheating attitude of Nigerians.

If you sample 100 people today on WAEC and they are to answer truthfully, I am sure 50% of those people would have done one malpractices or another to pass their exam. You may say I’m lying, but everyone seeing this post will acknowledge the fact.

rdokoye:
You're so vulgar. Behaviour like a human being, or just don't respond to me.

Believe me I’m not, there is just no other way to express myself in English that to speak like that.

Is it that difficult to grasp, the point I'm making. Why is Anambra winning awards for SME support, when, apparently, according to your dubious report, the number of SMEs in the state are relatively low? Does that make sense to you?

Can you hear yourself? Winning Award for SME support is NOT dependent on number of SMEs bro, they are totally different.

It’s just as ease of doing business, some states have the highest point in ease of doing business but don’t have much business In their states with respect to other states.

Anambra could win the award for SME support today, while Abia could win it the next cycle, Borno May win the next one BUT the number of SMEs in theses states won’t jump up to overtake Oyo or Osun in one cycle.

If you keep emphasizing on this Anambra issh that’s just an award, I will henceforth think you are purposely feigning ignorance.

Moreover, for those states that do, supposedly have lots of SMEs in them, what exactly do they have to show for it? Last time I checked, pretty much, all of Nigeria's indigenous industrial power is in the South-East. Oyo isn't known for manufacturing anything.

You are a liar again, no indigenous industrial power is domiciled in the SE that is a lie. What is the worth of all the industries in the SE? Why hasn’t those industries reflect in the GDP of the SE states? Why hasn’t it reflect in the revenue generation of the government? That means it’s a lie.

The industrial capital of Nigeria is domiciled in Ogun state. You can’t contest this fact, if you do then something is wrong somewhere.

Year upon year, the SW keeps retaining the record of the highest non-oil generating region and ONLY Ogun , Lagos, and Abuja actually generated an IGR that exceeded their FAAC from the FG.

That tells you the power of those states, where are the audio industries of Anambra? You mean Innoson that 85% of his buyers are government agencies.

rdokoye:
According to those stats, Benue State has more SMEs than Anamabra - not exactly believable, when you have Anambra winning awards for the best supporter of Micro, Small and Medium Enterprises (MSME) in Nigeria. https://anambrastate.gov.ng/news?r=anambra-wins-again-this-time-for-supporting-small-businesses&hs=1fd31d366130d335fcef14babbcb9aaf

Your link said Anambra emerges as the best supporter of SMEs and NOT the state with the highest SMEs.

Should I say you don’t understand basic English or you just purposely feign ignorance. How does emerging best supporter of SMEs come into this context of our arguments?

rdokoye:
Give me a link to those statistics, so I can look at them. That said, the employment stats, are 3 years out of date.

According to those stats, Benue State has more SMEs than Anamabra - not exactly believable, when you have Anambra winning awards for the best supporter of Micro, Small and Medium Enterprises (MSME) in Nigeria. https://anambrastate.gov.ng/news?r=anambra-wins-again-this-time-for-supporting-small-businesses&hs=1fd31d366130d335fcef14babbcb9aaf

Anambra has also been reported to have/had the most SMEs in the country. Which would make sense, given the entrepreneurial nature of the people, and the number of products produced in the state.

What SMEs do you have in Oyo. Show me these products that Oyo people make.

Well, it's a simple measurement, the WAEC and JAMB results. Not much room for manipulation. But okay, if you don't agree with them, then you have to be consistent, and only quote independent studies, and I mean INDEPENDANT, not collaborative reports.

The bolded is the lie of the century. Anambra is NOT the state with the highest SMEs in Nigeria, that is a great lie bro.

Oyo State SMEs is almost 4x that of Anambra. You guys hype your state too much and give false statistics without sources.

Below is a comprehensive 167 page report from NBS on the list of SMEs by states and the type of SMEs in Nigeria and the modalities. Also included is the CAC business registration by states and Employment figures.

http://smedan.gov.ng/images/NATIONAL%20SURVEY%20OF%20MICRO%20SMALL%20&%20MEDIUM%20ENTERPRISES%20(MSMES),%20%202017%201.pdf

I attached the screenshot of the SMEs, CAC registrations, Employment stat below with their page number in the document.

—Also read the below from Nairametrics, It showed Oyo as the second after Lagos.

https://nairametrics.com/2019/07/13/businesses-boom-as-south-west-states-rank-top-on-smes-in-nigeria/

Do you still have any more thing to say??

rdokoye:
Yes, it was, defying everything we know and understand about poverty. In the real world, poverty is heavily correlated with education (https://www.childfund.org/poverty-and-education/). As well as other things. But in Nigeria, the opposite reigns true. Making Nigeria the only country on earth, where less educated people (or uneducated people), do better economically than more educated (or educated) people.

Enugu and Ebonyi, both finished in positions 9 and 10, from the last West African Council Examination results: https://www.nairaland.com/5362392/best-performing-states-2019-waec

IGR is not a human development index, GDP and Per Capita are, along with life expectancy and education. Life expectancy is measured by mortality rates, which in turn is influenced by healthcare delivery: which encompasses, hospitals, access to medicines & basic amenities (such as clean water, sanitation, etc). It is these factors that measure wellbeing, living standards and actual poverty.

All the other stuff you wrote simply showcases your limited understanding of how civilisations work.

You mean the same WAEC and JAMB that SE always lead in the malpractices ratings? You are using Waec to judge education in a corrupt nation like Nigeria? Is it not the same SE where special centers even exist in a government secondary school located in the cities?

The same Waec that most parents always register their kids at special centers and other impersonation sittings is what you’re using to judge education? I can see you know nothing!

How many institutions are in Enugu and what is the ratings of their universities and research institutions with respect to Oyo state?

Guy no matter what metrics you use, don’t ever place Oyo and Enugu in the same sentence. Even the life expectancy rate statistics showed by NBS indicates that Oyo has a higher expectancy rate than Enugu.

In terms of industries, Oyo leads Enugu.

In terms of SMEs Oyo state thrash Enugu. Infact after Lagos, the next in line is alternating between Oyo state and Rivers State.

I told you before, let’s both use all the available statistical metrics to judge both Enugu and Oyo state. If Enugu lead Oyo state by points, then I will apologize openly to you!

Attached are 4 documents to buttress my facts.
—Enugu has a higher unemployment rate than Oyo.
—Oyo has high SMEs than Enugu
—Oyo has high Micro Enterprises than Enugu
—Oyo has more business registered with CAC than Enugu

Tell me what are the economic indices needed to judge?

rdokoye:
You can lie to yourself, but you can't lie to me. I'm not bandying around anything, I'm guesstimating, based on what my eyes see.

Postulate as much as you want, but it won't change the facts. Ibadan is larger than London, yet, London has an economy almost twice the size of Nigeria. Landmass is irrelevant, all that matters is what's on the land. Most of Ibadan is slums, so you can only really account for the developed areas, which, as I've said before, is anywhere from 1% to 5% of the city or town (whatever you want to call it). Everywhere else in Ibadan is null and void; at least by civilised human standards. Maybe you don't see a problem with black folk living in squalor, but I do.

Lol. Even based on all economic indices, Ibadan trash Enugu.

GDP, IGR, Poverty metrics, Industries, Infrastructures, Academic institutions, Research institutions, and etc.

Do you want to contest any of the above?

Can you see equating Ibadan, Enugu, and London in this context is rubbish. It could only be applicable if Enugu has a better economic indices than Ibadan.

Not long ago, Enugu was quoted as one of the poverty capital of the south and yet you’re here telling me about an imaginary economy.

Fun fact:
Do you know Enugu is tiny without a good economic metrics? Do you know almost half of Enugu is covered with brown roofs? Even the multi-story buildings are dilapidated with brown roofs and some without windows? Do you also know everything is readily available to me through google earth?

I will be following all of you closely, we are going to be painting nairaland with lot of brown roofs going forward. So ya’ll should thread with caution!

rdokoye:
[s]I did not show the slum side of Ibadan, because I didn't see the value in it. Ibadan is a slum city, that's not in doubt nor up for debate. Over 90%, whether 99% or 95% of Ibadan is a slum, filled with dilapidated buildings, dust roads, and unkempt muddy streets. I could literally spend a month posting unflattering images of Ibadan - but to what end?
[/s]
This isn't a matter of emotions, as you try so hard to paint it. Anyone with eyes, can look and see what Ibadan primarily is. The areas you were/are showing are minimal, relatively speaking, and many of them are only marginally better than the poorer areas of Enugu. The nice areas of Enugu are head and shoulders above Ibadan. I can even show you a video of a YORUBA man proclaiming that Enugu is better than anywhere in his own land.

So let's just end this okay - you can continue to lie to yourself, if it makes you feel better. But I don't see the point.

P.S. No one is crying, upset or flattered by your postulation. I wish the best for Ibadan. I want Yorubaland to develop, in fact, I want all of Africa to develop - and I don't want to hear any excuses. I'm tired of Yoruba people referring to Ibadan as an ancient city, as a means of writing away, what's so glaring to the rest of the world. That serious intervention is required.

You are just saying nonesense to be honest. Sorry if that seems like an insult but you are bandying figures around like an illiterate. Why not say the slum covered 100%?

I have been to Enugu and Ebonyi before. On two different occasions. Those places are an eyesore and I saw firsthand the reason why the Igbo people always cry about infrastructural decay.

No good roads, no solid city structures, erosion is too much such that there was a hole on some of the roads. I saw poverty that is real in those places. You can only fool the people that have not been to the South East, you can’t fool someone like me.

Ibadan is a great city with nice buildings and city structure. There are lot of industries with better infrastructure to go with. The cost of living is low and you can still get the luxury life of what you will get in Lagos.

Ibadan alone has 11 local government which consist of 7 urban local government in the city. For example, there is one of the local government called Oluyole local government, it houses a lot of buildings of Oluyole Estates, Elebu, Ashipa, New garage, and etc and has a lot of industries.

The size of Oluyole local government alone is 629sqkm while all of Owerri city is just 100sqkm. That means one local government in Ibadan is 6x owerri size. (Use google to verify my claim)

I’m trying to let you know that buildings in Ibadan alone could be more than those in 2states in the South-East. Because you said in one of your post that buildings in Enugu will be more than those in Ibadan. I’m just laughing at your ignorance.

rdokoye:
Keep showing pictures of 5% of Ibadan, and maybe you'll forget the other 95% exists. If I was as childish as you, I'd spend, literally hours posting unflattering images of Ibadan. Pictures that Ibadan has in abundance.

Most of those pictures are borderline anyway. Come on now.

You got nothing on me and the Igbos have always been the childish people online going by your judgement.

You people always drag Ibadan into your nonesense everytime by showing pics of the slum side of Ibadan. All I just did was to show the slum side of Enugu that covered almost half of the city as shown on Google Earth.

Why are you crying? Why are you feigning innocence? Who is notorious for showing buildings everytime like village kids if not the Igbos on Nairaland?

Before you said it was 1% of Ibadan I’m showing, now you said it’s 5% lol. Later you will say it’s 50% coz you can’t stomach the thought that Ibadan is actually a more greater city than your tiny Enugu.

I can go on and on by pushing this thread to 20 pages with pictures of Ibadan areas without repeating images from google street view alone. And all of them will be nice buildings and structures.

You started this first, you were the one that brought video of Ibadan and Enugu for comparison in the first place. So why are you crying now?

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This is Feb. 2020. You can see the statement on the official Airbus website.

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https://nairametrics.com/2020/02/14/green-africa-airways-is-set-to-take-ownership-of-50-airbus-jets/


Yorubas are big players in this game. No need of too much noise!

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rdokoye:
y is Ibadan known for? Do they manufacture something I'm unaware of? And please don't show me multinationals.

Lol you’re asking what Manufacturing companies are in Ibadan?

Do you mean Enugu got more industries than Ibadan? Please be clear on what you mean.

See the better part of Ibadan below!

rdokoye:
Oh, so Ibadan is that small, huh? #sarcasm#

You're a very dishonest homosapien. With people like you running the affairs of Nigeria, I fear for the future of that nation.

See the better part of Ibadan like this.

Can you see I’m not even snapping these areas in my google earth yet?

rdokoye:
Oh, so Ibadan is that small, huh? #sarcasm#

You're a very dishonest homosapien. With people like you running the affairs of Nigeria, I fear for the future of that nation.

This is an example of Ibadan city center.

This one is a image rather than google street view.

Can you see what I’m saying?

XANDERBOY85:
There's something really wrong with you! You (with all your other alternate monikers) have this sick obsession of comparing yourself with Igbos!

On this thread that has nothing to do with you, you've managed to start a comparison between Ibadan and Enugu.....and went to look for the least flattering pics of the poor areas of Enugu you could find on google earth! It says a lot that what you found is miles better than what one would see in poor areas of other cities like kano or Ibadan.

Lol. Check the person that first started showing the Ibadan bad pictures and you will see it’s a fellow Igbo like you rdokoye

All I just did is to retaliate and do the same thing to him.

Why are you now attacking me instead of attacking your fellow kinsman that first started this.

Check the thread again.

rdokoye:
As I said before, I can see, Google Earth is accessible to all. Those areas you're showing are only a fraction of the city. That is not an opinion, it's a fact. There's a strip of developed areas or at least, "more" developed areas, centred around the outskirts of the main city, but it constitutes such an insignificant part of the city that it's pointless emphasising.

90% of Ibadan residents live in those poor dilapidated buildings? Do you despite this? If so, show me a Google Earth snapshot that confirms you're belief and refutes my own.

What exactly is Ibadan known for? Do they manufacture something I'm unaware of? And please don't show me multinationals.

You are saying nonsense. How much is even the landmass area of the Ibadan old quarters?

You guys will just sit down and be quoting statistics from the comfort of your house. The Old quarters of Molete-Gate side is not even up to 20% of the city so where do you get your rubbish stat from?

Because we don't care about snapping pictures like you guys do dosen't mean they don't exists.