gohf: which men of God? The true ones or the ones who speak from their own selfish desires?
Theses ones you speak of, do they worship the one true God or mammon?
Tell us the will of God you discovered? Because every religion has their own requirement for holiness, share with us what they taught you for holiness, let us see if there were no added substances to your detriment.
I want to know what you have come to know as to what pleases God. What were you taught from them, share so that we don't become the ones shouting loud loud did we not do this and that in your name but get rejected because we didn't do the will of God.
The main duty of every believer is to preach Jesus and reconcile men to God. I'm a bit busy at the moment but how about we use WhatsApp sometime if u don't mind. We can also spend some time praying for souls to be saved and missionaries in the field. That would be a win win and we could lay up some treasures for ourselves
gohf: like I asked you, would you eat food with poison in it?
Do you understand what Jesus said in Matt.16.6 "Watch out!" Jesus warned them. "Beware of the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees."
Matt.16.12 - Then at last they understood that he wasn't speaking about yeast or bread but about the false teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
Luke.12.1 - ...., "Beware of the yeast of the Pharisees--beware of their hypocrisy.
Life is simple? Prov.1.22 "How long will you simple ones love your simple ways? How long will mockers delight in mockery and fools hate knowledge?
like I was saying, listening to some of these MOGs helped me become more interested in soul winning, holiness, doing the will of God and not solely pursuing my selfish desire but seeking to do what pleases God.
gohf: If the bloggers were lying then that is malicious but it's different when it is the truth.
Imagine if I gave you rice with 5 pieces of turkey and chicken, and added just a spoon of rat poison would you still eat it. I mean the poison is small compared to the whole food right?
God is not after your money but this false men of God are, they might masquerade it, try to hide it but inside they are wolves that only seek to devour and use scripture to justify themselves
My brother u can attend without giving anything & no one would refuse u entry. I had a friend who wouldn't even take communion until he believed in it. Life is simple
Myrepublic: The way I dislike this guy en. He is just after money money money. Them go dey use Bible scam people. God too go dey merciful shal.
Bloggers, content creators and forums like this always put out such contents because they know it will generate traffic as people insult these ministers. That's why even though they preach on different topics, the only one you'll hear is when they talk about giving. Growing up I had always heard about how some churches are only after your money for years until I attended and was stunned to know that them no even send you at all. Im not generalizing for everywhere but from my experience in some of this places, You can attend for years and not give a dime and no one cares because they don't even know u don't
PissInside: The true servants of the living God are the unpopular pastors....And what they preach about is salvation and holiness.
Most of these big churches are business centers and all they preach is prosperity...They don't care if you're a sinner or not.
The most annoying thing is the way members idolize these men of God.
Only God knows who's truly serving him.
All they preach there is prosperity.... I agreed with this based on what I had heard over the years until I attended some so called big churches and discovered some positions we held about them were based on popular opinion
jesusjnr2020: When I recently shared a thread about how impressed I was with the spiritual depth of Bishop Abioye's teachings the first few times I ever heard them, although this particular teaching wasn't among the ones I heard but only a few days old, it perfectly illustrates my point.
The spiritual depth i spoke about with his teachings I heard so far, didn't have to do with his physical appearance, oratory skills, eloquence, verve or the tone of his voice or how appealing his message was to me as many misinterpreted, but about how much his teachings aligned with that of Christ, because Christ teachings which is what He commanded His disciples to teach all men to keep before His departure from the earth (Matthew 28:20), ought to be the standard with which the teaching of any church leader or minister was measured, not what appeals to us or what we want to hear.
So that's what impressed me about David Abioye's teachings the few times I heard them not something else.
For instance this particular teaching is Christlike and the kind of teaching Christ would be teaching if He were Himself, however I have never heard Bishop Oyedepo teaching or expressing such a concern before, despite knowing him since the late 80's and early 90's when he was yet in Kaduna up til now.
I know that he is more obsessed with getting more church members into his church and building bigger church buildings than getting souls into the kingdom of God, as was the case with most prosperity preachers, as is clearly reflected in their teachings, hence even though the church now has become filled and brimming with members than it's ever been in it's history, it's also the church that's made sinners become most comfortable in their sins instead of coming to repentance since the church began.
This is a serious concern I have always had concerning today's church and have shared here and elsewhere times without number, but many spiritually blind Christians have taken that to be an attack on the church, so it's good to see Bishop David Abioye who they view as one of their own also expressing the same concerns about today's church.
It's baffling though that it took his retirement from Oyedepo's church for us to hear such a teaching from him, so it could be a blessing in disguise but just wished it happened sooner.
God bless.
You mean u have never heard bishop oyedepo talk against unrighteousness, sanctification and living a holy life, love for God etc ... Are u sure u listen to his sermons at all?
The Bishop Oyedepo Ive listened to preaches against living in sin and against materialism severally ... Even in the just concluded Shiloh he talked severally of how Solomon's wisdom was corrupted because of iniquity and love for what God hates.
Infact I know someone in person who was terribly addicted to drugs and womanizing but repented and got delivered from those addictions in winners. He's a very committed member and I've heard him relate his testimony severally
stevups: The way ministry is designed, Paul Eneche, Ibiyiome, are supposed to learn under the experience of Abioye but now Abioye will consult them, no matter what! I do not rule out his achievements, but one must know when to stop dancing. Can relate the story of Laban and Jacob? Jacob said " I have been serving you all this while, when should I prepare for my home?" To me, Abioye has a closed mind. The politics in the church is more than the politics in government. I studied church history, I can boldly tell you that Oyedepo also learnt under someone. Most of the people that desire absolute loyalty don't give it to others. Immediately I stepped into the Canaanland I could see there is a big problem on ground. In the next 10 years you will see, that many churches will spring out of winners.
The bishop already said part of the God given mandate is that winners will form the foundation of many great ministries
simpleseyi: Which of the Churches? The one that retired their Senior Pastors at 58 years so that the family business will continue? If the Church thinks about the 2nd coming, the Chief Conman heading the Church would do better
I think you should try attending any Living Faith Church close and listen to the sermon so you can get first hand info. "Seeing is believing"
That Apostle Suleman's prophecy was right too. That prophecy was 2020 & Kamala wasn't even picked as choice of VP yet. In another video then he added that even tho a man would be president, he was seeing a woman as the main person in place. If you follow him you will see when he said in 2018 that Donald Trump was not going to win his 2020 2nd term bid and it happened.
Denko2721987: Na so.. You wish.. Na Hollywood script u write there so oh, hahahahahahhah.. Iran no be Hezbollah. Even Israel knows this
Na so una talk about Hamas, then Hezbollah before Israel wipe them off their entire top brass in days ( after they had fired over 10,000 rockets into Israel since Oct 7) now na Iran. Very soon we go dey hear Free Iran everywhere
Kobojunkieee: Cut the bull! You either process things logically or emotionally in this world. And you know what your Adeboye does? He does think logically as that is the only way to keep up with his scam. His response the other day was done in the same manner. But then the same man lies to you a lot that you should not visit logic at all in your decision-making because if you do, you would quickly realize him for the scammer that he is.
U seem to have a lot to type and I would have really loved to listen to you in person. Sadly multitasking at the moment
Kobojunkieee: Before you resign, make an appointment with a professional mental health therapist so you are sure of your motives cause as I said, religion is a scam.
With people like Adeboye and Oyedepo, it is a Ponzi scheme these men are running with only the top maybe 5 %-15% at the time benefitting while everyone at the bottom pays for the largesse enjoyed by those at the top including their GO scammers-in-the-lords.
Hahahaha. Funny you. You are a very logical person and it's cool just that we are coming from very diff places with diff experiences. Good luck with your beliefs bro. All the best
Kobojunkieee: Religion is a scam that steals, kills, and destroys the lives of many millions and even nations. Look at Nigeria for example. Why should I not have joy in calling out the scam for what it is?
D way u always rush to church topics lolz. I'm a Christian and it's been such a blessing. D reason I intend to resign from my current job soon is because at times I'm only able to attend church once in a month and it's not been funny at all
jayce232: See the nonsense u just wrote?? You don't need to even be a Christian to know riches & pursuit of God's kingdom don't mix! But because u people are weak, u will always find a way to justify your worldly lust! What did Jesus tell the man that approached him in the region of Judea?? Why did Jesus asked the man to sell all his properties to the poor?? Why can't your bishop sell his rolls Royce to feed the poor??
Mark 10:21 "Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
The same Jesus now said this; Mark 10:25 "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”
Here u are arguing about possessing worldly passions. You people are just pretenders, really don't know what it is to be Christ like!
Kobojunkieee: Likely more than 85% of those Adeboye refers there to as his children will never see or experience riches in their life, not because of criticism from social media, but majorly because RCCG miracles never get around to meet the individual desires of the vast majority of their members. There are only so many government contracts/connections these scammers-in-the-lords can hand out sheeple. Sadly, those members unable to make large donations to the church regularly, are bound to be passed over when one becomes available.
Now, if we investigate the source of money of those who gave Oyedepo Rolls Royce, the changes are above 99% that we go find say na corruption money dem use to buy those gifts for am. Oyedepo is surely aware of even this but does it matter? Of course not! Money and material wealth are indicators as far as the blessing of their church gods.