obaaderemi: Thank you for this truth @bolded. If Kenya's GDP was $50bn in 2016(year thread started) and you are growing at an average rate of 4% per year, that's $52bn(2017), $54.8bn(2018), $56.6bn($2019), $58.2bn(2020) Thank you for providing the firewood and tinder with which I roasted you, Little Indian. I told you your economy is $60bn max! cc Samorobo, justnotyou.
Hahahaha...rvp and maths never walk in thesame lane
rvp2018: Nope, Kenya is so good, it has taken down all the countries on this thread. And still triumphs. You're trying to massage Ghana little balls (ohoo we are one) last I checked. When this thread started Kenya GDP was 50b - now it's 100B. Kenya is making tremendous progress in all fronts.
Get off that drug immediately...why haven't we seen that greatness since 2016... Tell me, when will this greatness be visible cos so far Kenya has remained a constant shiithole..
obaaderemi: If there is one basic thing this thread has done, it is to expose Kenya's lies to the world. For generations you have lied about your data and put forward a front as a tourist haven. But now we know you are not only poor but starving and dominated by slums. And that your economy is far smaller than it is. My boy, Kenya is the worse country on this thread.
rvp2018: Anybody can write any nonsense in Quora. Lagos state generate 1.3B dollars internal revenues. Kenya with less than 100B dollars GDP generate 21b dollar revenues. You want to compare the two. Don't reason like a Neanderthal.
Lagos state like every Nigeria state spew all sort of propaganda including declaring their economy the 7th in Africa.
Lagos state does not have Mwangi at the helm of her stats affair..don't be mistaken mate..
rvp2018: Akwa Ibom - I can believe their figures - 13B dollars - when producing 0.5m barrels of Oil daily make SENSE.
Lagos state cooks figures better than Yemi Kale does in Abuja. They cooked their population to 20m. They cook their gdp estimates. LAGOS governor won 75% of the vote - 0.7M votes . He cannot tell Nairobi governor or his competitor anything.
Lagos has no manufacturing worth anything; it would be exporting a lot of stuff - and Nigeria won't be importing nearly everything.
You're in stage 1 of manufacturing - doing import substitution of agricultural goods.
The laughable stuff you describe about smart cards syringes - just show how backward Nigeria is! Those are basic stuff that are done in any decent city.
According to IMF/WB report as at 2018 Lagos GDP was pegged at $136bn..now it's should be $140...argue with your ancestors or let Kenya as a Nation compete with Lagos a city..
rvp20182: Maybe 2 or 3 oil barons - and drug dealers - afford Karen - the rest of Nigerians - live in Roysambu, Umoja and Nairobi metro. These are information you can easily google.
It's not two or three..it's 98% of Nigerian pop in Kenyan..
The bulk of the people who recorded an upward change in fortunes during the decade was a result of an improved economy which grew at an average of 5.3 per cent, significantly above the 4.9 per cent average for sub-Saharan Africa.
“The share of the population living below the national poverty line fell from 46.8 per cent in 2005/06 to 36.1 per cent in 2015/16, reflecting a modest but sustained improvement in living standards over the decade,” says the Kenya Gender and Poverty Assessment 2015/16 report by the Bretton Woods firm.
“However, Kenya’s poverty rate is roughly twice the average for lower-middle-income countries worldwide.”
The poverty line denotes those living on less than $1.90 or (Sh191.88) per day.
Kenya should be the last person to lecture anyone on slum and it's even annoying you took it SA that has done overly well with infastructure and urban settlement..unless you have places in your zoo that can be compared and liken to Europe,US as seen in SA then just shut it....
Numerous report has it that Kenya slum population keeps growing rapidly and I am not surprised..your govt has don't absolutely nothing in providing housing for the common man coupled with fact that lands are even too expensive for and average income earner to buy a plot and build his own little home...what happen when the average earner is laid off from works as constantly seen in Kenya corporate world...he goes back to slum cos he is not getting the constant income to even sustain continuity of his monthly rent..... What of those that are less than the average earner..what happens when they can't also sustain themselves In Eastleigh...dude their next journey is kibera or Mathare or kwangware..you name it..
rvp2018: 27M voted nationally. In Kenya 19M I think voted. Our population is 47m - and yours nearly 200m. Nairobi county had about 2m votes. Lagos state 1.1m. Your Lagos governor got less votes than Nairobi governor.
Stop cooking figures. Lagos is only 20M from Lagos state stats estimates- from a governor elected by 700,000 people - with his competitor at 200K. Nairobi governor Sonko got 1M - and his competitor also 1m votes.
Lagos 20M figures like Nigeria population figures are grossly exaggerated. Census found out only about 8M people in the entire Lagos state.
Now talking of largest port - Mombasa has bigger port than two ports of Lagos. Nairobi JKIA handle more passengers and aircraft that Lagos airport.
None of them claim to be 100B GDP based on that alone.
What does Lagos generate? It's manufacturing sector is nothing to write home about?
The same state gov have come up with grossly exaggerated GDP figures of 136B dollar
Lagos GDP should be $140bn now...argue with your ancestors or Kenya should buckle up and compete with Lagos...your choice mate..
rvp20182: Nigerians live in Umoja and Pipelines - 10 guys in one room. They pay rent like Nigerians - per year or two years. Something unheard of in Kenya.
Umoja is not Karen..get the difference... I do think have to school you about locations in your city now do I?
rvp20182: You can prove to us that 1/3 of cape-town residents don't live in slums. Your country is generating poverty because like Nigeria it last GREW at a rate higher than the population last decade...
But don't give up....Nigeria is manufacturing poverty at an industrial scale. South Africa will generate new slums - unless you figure out how to 1) grow the economy - 2) generates jobs (30-40% unemployment) - and 3) give the poor blacks land back in rural areas to cultivate.
This is funny ....why has Kenyan not done any of this things to stop the rapidly ballooning slum...i mean SA is not the country with about 70% of her entire urban population.in informal settlements (slums)....so there goes your argument... Since 2003 you've been singing your slum upgraded program yet all you have to show for it is 30 buildings in kibera against the booming urban population...
Dlonra: Most Nairobians live in the metropolitan areas like Kiambu, Kajiado & Machakos. It's also funny you mentioned Roysambu a Nigerian migrant neighborhood
Stupid talk..go ask around ..Nigeria neighbourhood is Karen, tours and other top presentable environment...I guess you don't know Nigerians are the backbone of your dwindling real estate sector..
Dlonra: Kenya Cannot be Failed cause it houses tans of Nigerian Migrants flocking in as they escape Nigeria If we were South Africans thousands of Nigerians could have gone through hell.
And this are not Nigerians..can you prove it..
Look we are not Tanzanians whom your media go out to demonize..we will just end your nation in a blink..
Dlonra: Kenya Cannot be Failed cause it houses tans of Nigerian Migrants flocking in as they escape Nigeria If we were South Africans thousands of Nigerians could have gone through hell.
Lol kenya us a failed state..I advice you stick to this thread more oftenly instead of taking your time+like 2 days) to reply me like I am some god ;r better still start reading this thread from page 1 and before you hit page 100 you would be weeping for your zoo ..you could even start from more recent discussion like early this year if you are soonlaxy to read up 8,000 + pages .
Dlonra: I suppose you are still stressed with the hard facts I've been spitting. Even if I go quiet. Google will still hit you with facts as Kenya's economy grows at a rate of 6% while Nigeria almost -1.
What a fool..tell me the last time Kenya met a projected growth of 6% pre-covid19...As far as I know Kenya never meets any projected growth from IMF it WB while Nigeria on the other hand has always defied IMF and World bank projections and grow past their projected figures .
As for this year just forget growth..you are doing -2%...can we take a bet on that..
rvp2018: Unlike Kenya towns and cities - South Africa is creating brand new slums every day - as more and more people are driven into poverty. But now you want to engage in childish debate comparing Nairobi with your brand new slums.
Kibera and all Nairobi slums were all started in 80s - by Sudanese Nubians who found themselves illegals in Kenya - and there is rarely any new slum you'll see.
Look at your brand new slums - in few years - Joburg, Capetown and name them will be sprawling slums. Already 1/3 of cape-town are slum dwellers - and the numbers are increasing.
True,true...he should list the what nairobi has over Khayelitsha..I was told Khayelitsha has some community infastructure line library, park, basketball court,sport field..
rvp2018: We don't appear to be doing well - we are doing well - pictures and videos speak for themselves. That is why we buried Nigeria long time ago. You cannot compete with our cities and of course our rural areas. Our slums are better than your slums because they at least have basic amenities.
Lol you are not doing well...got tell to some gullible kid in kibera or Kenya...this thread has exposed aolit about Kenya..except you are telling me you changed over night..
rvp2018: Precisely. Rather than face facts - they go personal. Or they dream like Samrobo - that renders will magically transform Lagos slumpolis into a modern city.
Sammy doesn't dream.or hallucinate like rvp...he speaks fact and provide evidence for every render he post...
And yes Lagos is heading for the global level while nairobi can barely even aim maboneng and hillbrow in joburg..
And pls no idiot should ask me to post construction pics of that city cos I have done that severally...if you missed the train , then sorry for you..ensure you get to the station early next time..
Abohboy: Ilubirin, half of it is low cost apartments the rest of this is very modern and sleek buildings like Eko Atlantic.
Ilubirin is not part of it....ilubirin sits on the mouth of oworoshoki and would be connected to banana island when fourth mainland bridge is completed...
As for this project it might get funded by private sector and be backed by LASG same way they are doing with ilubirin...I have pics of sanwo checking out some prototype sample in China early this year.. Ilubirin will probably give you the feel of what you get when you shop on Oxford Street,London...... basically just high end stores,cafes, souvenir shops, restaurant,office spaces, luxury homes, busy streets, lively neighbourhood....not a serious CBD but can atleast open up that axis into a CBD in the future...
Abohboy: Ilubirin, half of it is low cost apartments the rest of this is very modern and sleek buildings like Eko Atlantic.
Ilubirin is not part of it....ilubirin sits on the mouth of oworoshoki and would be connected to banana island when fourth mainland bridge is completed...
As for this project it might get funded by private sector and be backed by LASG same way they are doing with ilubirin...I have pics of sanwo U checking out some prototype sample in China early this year.. Ilubirin will probably give you the feel of what you get when you shop on Oxford Street,London...... basically just high end stores,cafes, souvenir shops, restaurant, office spaces busy streetlively neighbourhood....not a serious CBD but can atleast open up that axis into a CBD in the future...
chrisooblog: if you say Lagos is 60-70% slums then I think you need to give the criteria for slums. if you are saying that Lagos has kibera levels of slums in abundance that's not true. makoko is the place I can best describe as being like that however if an American says we have a lot of slums based on where he is coming from I would agree cos some of the poorest American areas or projects are just like a lot of Lagos neighbourhoods
theenchanter: Pls, where did u dig ur stat from? From 85% of lagos island as slum to 60-70% of lagos as slum? Do u even know lagos island stretches to onikan (one of d coolest neigbourhood on earth)? Why use balogun market alone to judge l/island, a market about to be demolished? dont even get me started on ur doggy 70% stat cos any city with that slum rate wont be listed as d 5th most beautiful n developed city in d continent.
Yes we earn that.....I think that place was voted 5th in the world..