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tpia.:
so what is the secret?

Your thread title has nothing in common with your posts- I thought you were going to explain the third secret, etc etc.

anyway, explain yourself further and clearly.

Its out there on DVD for people to watch. If you are interested, you let me know.
Its free of charge

~Lady~:
Please stop spreading info on the sedevacants please. You will give ppl the wrong info on Catholicism and Our Lady of Fatima

The truth is always there for any one of goodwill to see and believe. Catholism is all about believing in each and every article of faith and morals defined by legitimate councils and true Popes and not on externals because one loves what he is seeing or hearing.
As i have always said, it is better that one takes his/her time to study the materials and judge for him or herself. Moreover, talking about sedevancantism, people who never believed on it and defended it to the core have debated the monks on this and have noting to say on it. It's there on their website (audio section) for those who care to listen to it. Also, facts dont lie and for Catholism, dogmas settles all disputes.
How can one even calls himself a catholic if he does not belive what the church has defined on faith and morals.

On nairaland, people just love to argue, i only came here to let people know of the great apostasy currently going on as predicted in scripture and catholic prophesies. All those who are of the truth will certainly come to terms with it. Christ himself even told us that the deception would be so profound that if possible even the elect would be decieved. And who are the elect? are they not the predestinate souls? even though predestination itself is a mystery.

i still urge people to look at the materials first and then take their own stand especially watching this new dvd that is out rather than ignoring it because someone has kicked against it.

Truth is Truth and Truth can never lie. its always there for people to see and either believe it or not.
People should actaully say their rosary to get the graces they need

The monks of the Most Holy Family Monastery have made another important video based on the apostasy in which we are currently going true titled: The Third Secret of Fatima, the Impostor Sister Lucia and the End of the World. They say this is by far the best video they have ever produced and if this does not convince any one of the truth, then there is nothing that would ever do. I strongly urge all those who profess to be “Catholics” and are still tied down by the devil by belonging to the Vatican II sect to wake up and see not only this video but others displayed on their website: www.vaticancatholic.com  or  www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com  if  they do not want to perish in hell for all eternity.
This is because its not just enough for you to call yourselve a Catholic. For there are  certain things that ACTUALLY makes one a Catholic.

We are ever willing to give out here in Nigeria any video, audio or their books free of charge to any one that wants it.

I also encourage the protestants out there that there is need for them to convert to the True Catholic faith if at all they desire to save their souls. Most of the doubts you have about the catholic church (not the Apostate Phony Vatican II sect claiming to be catholic) are answered in the book: The Bible Proves The Teachings Of The Catholic Church still from the Most Holy Family Monastery and we are ever ready to give it free of charge to any one of good will that needs it.

Should one have any question, feel free to ask the monks on their email- mhfm1@aol.com.  And for their materials, you can contact us via the mail: salvesancta@yahoo.com

Finally, there are ministers of Lucifer out there ever willing to discourage others from listening/accepting the truth. It is very important that you disregard what others say and you listen/hear first before taking your own stand. For every one will stand alone on judgment day.

Thanks.

pilgrim.1:
Dear sancta,

Thank you for your calm response to my rejoinder to chukwudi44, and the offer you made to log on to the website in your reply. I'm grateful.

To be honest, I have not done so, and will find the time to consider your offer. However, what answers particularly would you hope to present to my objections?

Hello Pilgrim. 1

Quite a long time. I hope you must have visited the site: www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com as regards your major objections with chukwudi. The book I promised to send you (THE BIBLE PROVES THE TEACHINGS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH) will get to us here in Nigeria hopefully by next week. If you are still interested in it (though I pray you should), you can send me your mailing address via my mail salvesancta@yahoo.com so I can send it to you. I also believe the DVD’s: Creation And Miracles, Death And The Journey Into Hell and their audios on MP3 would be of immense value to you. If you need them as well, don’t fail to let me know. All are for free.

When you eventually get them, read and watch with a calm and humble spirit and should you have a doubt on any issue, don’t fail to ask the monks. If you visit the E-Exchanges (Questions, Comments and Answers) section of the site, you would easily see that even Protestants are converting to the true catholic faith.

Like I once said and I still maintain my grounds based on the teaching magisterium of the Catholic church that the Catholic Church still exists though reduced to a remnant which are holding onto the true faith whole and entire. For in truth, the Catholic Church takes no account of popularity and numbers in shaping and maintaining her doctrines. Even if there is one true priest and few Catholics faithful to tradition, they are the ones who make up the Catholic Church. I am also happy you keep on reminding others what I have always said. All those of goodwill will definitely see the truth in all these but then I sometimes wonder how they would see this when they obstinately refuse to look at what the Catholic Church has always taught which the monks present on their site.

I earnestly pray that Our Lady enlightens you in all this and enable you see the truths of the Catholic faith. Amen.

chukwudi44:
sancta
I want you to know that Jesus clearly stated in mattew 16 ,that the gates of hell shall not prevail against his church.
I know that there some school of catholics who claim that the church was polluted after vatican ii,I dont want to agree with that.Johnpaul ii was perhaps the greatest pope we have had in over 1000 years.The resolutions of the vatican does not in anyway negatively impact on the modern catholic worship.

You are totally wrong on thi[/b]s chukwudi44. For sure the gates of hell would never prevail against the Catholic Church. If you believe in JP II, B XVI, then you are asserting that the gates of hell have prevailed against the church because heretics are the gates of hell as taught by the church and a heretic can never be a pope. These are dogmatic statements.

Pope Vigilius, Second Council of Constantinople, 553:
“… we bear in mind what was promised about the holy Church and Him who said [b]the
gates of Hell will not prevail against it (by these we understand the death-dealing
tongues of heretics)…”

Pope St. Leo IX, Sept. 2, 1053: “The holy Church built upon a rock, that is Christ, and
upon Peter… because by the gates of Hell, that is, by the disputations of heretics which lead the vain to destruction, it would never be overcome.”

St. Thomas Aquinas (+1262): “Wisdom may fill the hearts of the faithful, and put to
silence the dread folly of heretics, fittingly referred to as the gates of Hell.” (Intro. To Catena Aurea.)

And as we all know, heretics are not members of the church.

Pope Innocent III, Eius exemplo, Dec. 18, 1208:
“By the heart we believe and by the mouth we confess the one Church, not of heretics,
but the Holy Roman, Catholic, and Apostolic Church outside of which we believe that no
one is saved.”

St. Francis De Sales (17th century), Doctor of the Church, The Catholic Controversy, pp.
305-306: "Now when he [the Pope] is explicitly a heretic, he falls ipso facto from his
dignity and out of the Church, "

WHAT THEN ARE THE HERESIES OF JPII?

1. He practiced religious indifferentism and extolled all false religions. E.G John Paul II, General Audience, Jan. 11, 1995:
“I gladly take this occasion to assure those who follow[b] the Buddhist religion of my deep respect and sincere esteem.”

On August 8, 1985, John Paul II prayed with African Animists (witch doctors).[/b] John Paul II recalled the meeting:
“Particularly noteworthy was the prayer meeting at the sanctuary of Our Lady of Mercy at Lake Togo where, for the first time, I also prayed with a group of Animists.”

[b]On Oct. 27, 1986, John Paul II invited the major leaders of all the false religions of the world t[/b]o come to Assisi, Italy for a World Day of Prayer for Peace. John Paul II prayed with over 100 different religious leaders of various false religions, thereby repudiating the teaching of Scripture and the 2000-year teaching of the Catholic Church which outlaws such prayer with false religions.
The entire day of prayer with the pagans, infidels and heretics was John Paul II's idea. During this meeting the Dalai Lama placed a Buddhist statue on the tabernacle in the church of St. Francis. Among the various false religious leaders at Assisi there were rabbis, Islamic muftis, Buddhist monks, Shintoists, assorted Protestant ministers, Animists, Jainists and others.
During the meeting, a member of each false religion came forward and offered a prayer for peace – blasphemous prayers, for instance, as the Hindu prayer said: “Peace be on all gods.” (The Animist leader prayed to the “Great Thumb.”) But their gods are devils, as we saw above, so peace was being prayed for all the devils (who created these false religions) at the Vatican-sponsored World Day of Prayer for Peace! The Vatican II religion wants you to be in communion with devils.

In 1928, Pope Pius XI authoritatively condemned this inter-religious activity and denounced it as apostasy from the true Faith.
Pope Pius XI, Mortalium Animos (# 10): “So, Venerable Br

“…Not only are those who hold this opinion in error and deceived, but also in distorting the idea of true religion they reject it, and little by little, turn aside to naturalism and atheism, as it is called; from which it clearly follows that one who supports those who hold these theories and attempt to realize them, is altogether abandoning the divinely revealed religion.”

2. John Paul II asked St. John the Baptist to protect Islam!
On March 21st, 2000, John Paul II asked St. John the Baptist to protect Islam (the religion of the Muslims), which denies Christ and the Trinity, and keeps hundreds of millions of souls in the darkness of the Devil.
John Paul II, March 21, 2000:
“May Saint John the Baptist protect Islam and all the people of Jordan, ”
This is to ask St. John to protect the denial of Christ and the damnation of souls.
Don’t forget that on May 14, 1999, John Paul II bowed to and kissed the Koran. The Koran is the Muslims’ holy book which blasphemes the Most Holy Trinity and denies the Divinity of Jesus Christ. To revere the holy book of a false religion has always been considered an act of apostasy – a complete rejection of the true religion.

John Paul II, New Catechism (paragraph 841):
“… Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”

This means Jesus Christ will not judge mankind on the last day, but rather the god whom the Muslims worship will. This is a denial of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ to judge the living and the dead.
Pope St. Damasus I, Council of Rome, 382, Can. 15:
“If anyone does not say that He Jesus Christ… will come to judge the living and the dead, he is a heretic.”

3.John Paul II praised Luther, Calvin, Zwingli and Hus
John Paul II also praised the greatest enemies that the Catholic Church has ever known, including the Protestant revolutionaries Luther and Calvin. In Oct. 1983, John Paul II, speaking of Martin Luther, stated: “Our world even today experiences his great impact on history.” And on June 14, 1984, John Paul II praised Calvin as one who was trying to “make the Church more faithful to the will of the Lord.” To patronize, support and defend heretics is to be a heretic. To praise the worst heretics in Church history, such as Luther and Calvin, is beyond heres

Pope Gregory XVI, Encyclical, May 8, 1844:
“But later even more care was required when the Lutherans and Calvinists dared to oppose the changeless doctrine of the faith with an almost incredible variety of errors. They left no means untried to deceive the faithful with perverse explanations of the sacred books, ”
4. He taught that non-Catholics can receive Communion , that non-Catholic sects have Saints and Martyrs. He approved of the practice of Altar Girls which Pope Benedict XIV, Pope Gelasius and Innocent IV forbade[/b]Chukwudi,

[b]John Paul II said that Heaven, Hell and Purgatory are not actual places
In a series of speeches in the summer of 1999, reported in the official Vatican newspaper, John Paul II said that Heaven, Hell and Purgatory are not actual places.
At his general audience on July 21, 1999, John Paul II said that Heaven is not an actual place.140
On July 28, 1999, John Paul II said:
1) "It is precisely this tragic situation that Christian doctrine explains when it speaks of eternal damnation of Hell. It is not a punishment imposed externally by God but a development of premises already set by people in this life."
2) "By using images, the New Testament presents the place destined for evildoers as a fiery furnace, where people will 'weep and gnash their teeth', The images of Hell that Sacred Scripture presents to us must be correctly interpreted. They show the complete frustration and emptiness of life without God. Rather than a place, Hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy."

John Paul II carrying the “Broken Cross”
Paul VI, John Paul I, John Paul II and Benedict XVI have carried a cross that very few have understood – the sinister bent or broken cross on which the Body of Christ is displayed as a repulsive and distorted figure. This bent or broken cross was used by black magicians and sorcerers in the sixth century to represent the Biblical term “mark of the beast.” Satanists in the fifth and sixth centuries, as well as black magicians and sorcerers of the Middle Ages (476-1453), used such figurines to represent their hatred for Christianity. The fact that the broken cross was used for occult purposes can be seen in the Museum of Witchcraft in Bayonne, France.
So Mr. Chukwudi, of what use is it trying to convert the Protestants in this argument if you yourself does not hold onto the true catholic faith. That’s why I’ve advised that you help yourself first and foremost.
Pray earnestly your rosary that our lady enlightens you in this great time of apostasy.
The monks website is perfectly exposing and telling people what they must do. If you are confused, why not mail them but above all, take time to see their materials of which I have also promise to help those that need it.

To truly convice you of what these men are, see what Pope Pius XI said
Pope Pius XI, Rite expiatis (# 6), April 30, 1926: “…heresies gradually
arose and grew in the vineyard of the Lord,
propagated either by open heretics or by sly deceivers
who, because they professed a certain austerity of life and gave a false
appearance of virtue and piety, easily led weak and simple souls astray.”

Chukwudi

It is true that the Catholic Church is the one true church of Jesus Christ and that outside this Church there is no one saved - that is No one can be saved outside the catholic Church. This is Infallible. A catholic cannot deny this doctrine, or else he is No longer a catholic even though he or she still claims to be. The Catholic Church is the mystical body of Christ, and those who believe all her infallible teachings are her member. Vatican two council (1962-1965)was heretical because it denies the Catholic Faith in so many piont. Vatican two taught that Catholics and muslims woship the same God, that Non catholics could receive Holy communion. it also taught the heresy of religious Lliberty, and this denial of 'No salvation outside the true Church' etc. You can get the evidences from the web sit www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com. And the Catholic church infallibly teaches that a Heretic is no member of it. and the present mass in the parishes in a new mass of 1969(not the mass the Church has always celebrated) and is INVALID. The parishes and diocese around the world now agree and teach these heresies, that is why they are non-catholics like the protestant heretic who is trying to make you despair.
Pope Leo XIII, satis cognitum, June 29, 1896:
"No one who merely disbelieves in all (these heresies) can for that reason regard himself as a Catholic or Call himself one. For there may be or arise some other heresies, which are not set out in this work of ours, and , if anyone holds to a single one of these he is not a Catholic"

These Catholic Teachings are sealed with Papal Infallibity. A catholic must believe this. You make haste and leave the V2 and the new mass, its urgent.

KAPTEN:
Its very clear that you are one of the extreme nuts running loose.Your website - www.mostholyfamilymonastry.com is so disorganized and filled with extremist thoughts.Anybody that bothers to check the site would agree with me.You even have the guts to quote a document from Pope Leo xiii whose writing you quoted has been shown to be very anti progressive.
[b]
" Leo is known primarily by two encyclicals, "Rerum Novarum" and "Humanum Genus."

Humanum Genus
The 1884 "Humanum Genus" shocked the democratic world and led to considerable distrust of the Vatican's motives among the free nations, especially the United States where massive and deeply-rooted anti-Catholic bias was generated by the wide distribution the encyclical received. This encyclical, written to condemn the men's fraternal Order known as Freemasonry, in fact condemned those practices that most countries of the free world held to be the bulwarks of democracy and personal liberty.

First, the encyclical divided the world into two camps, the Holy Catholic Church which followed Jesus Christ--and then everyone else who, Leo wrote, followed Satan. This "we/you" mentality infuriated non-Latin Christians and destroyed for decades any possibility of mutual understanding or cooperation, or even dialogue. Then, specifically, Pope Leo went on to attack and condemn

* free elections;
* free public education;
* freedom of religion;
* freedom of conscience;
* freedom of assembly;
* freedom of the press;
* separation of church and state;
* the allowance of divorce;
* equality before the law;
* and many other rights which are today not only commonly understood to be essential for the human condition, but also the signs of a free and democratic society.

Thus, in attempting to condemn Freemasonry (which fraternal Order the Pope unwittingly acknowledged as a society friendly to democracy and dangerous only to despots and dictators), Leo only stirred up and created more hatred and distrust of the Latin Church which was perceived to be the enemy of liberty and democracy. Specifically, the encyclical (and Rome itself) was seen to be anti-American. Because the encyclical has not been repudiated and is still in force, many persons are still wary of dealing with Rome in ecumenical and certain political matters."[/b]

I now know the kind of person you are and wont waste my time with you.My people say if you argue with a fool nobody would know the difference.I am done responding to any post from you on this issue as you dont bother to do proper research and you are just an ignorant fanatic.

You are truly a sly serpent and think of yourself as being clever. All your reply to my respond clearly shows this as I will show from your own statement.

[b]“I wont even bother reading your next post cos I know it will be filled with inconsistencies designed to mislead the reading public. If this is the kind of research and "facts" you would post I would urge everyone to ignore his posts.”

“I am not trying to convince anyone to do anything apart from stop spreading lies.I don't know you but from your post I can tell you are very ignorant, easily gullible, and cant separate facts from fiction and a liar to boot.
Its your type that swallows all that comes their way without objective analysis.”

“Its very clear that you are one of the extreme nuts running loose.Your website - http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/ is so disorganized and filled with extremist thoughts. Anybody that bothers to check the site would agree with me”.
“You even have the guts to quote a document from Pope Leo xiii whose writing you quoted has been shown to be very anti progressive”.

“My people say if you argue with a fool nobody would know the difference.I am done responding to any post from you on this issue as you dont bother to do proper research and you are just an ignorant fanatic”.[/b]

You rush quickly to say things like this so that one would say “oh! the ‘all knowing and wisdom filled’ Kapten as regards this topic has discredit this and that so I ought not to listen to this person or the other”. Though I give you kudos for one thing, for in all these, you have not said even for once that all I’ve said about this evil society is completely wrong. You just pick only one thing and then either try to discourage others and then use the words ‘facts’ and ‘research’, else it would be confirmed that you are a blatant liar ( even though you are). This is the same tactics you use in responding to persons who disagree with you. Always challenging them to point out what they have seen the masons do simply because you know the young lads here are not members hence they cant really say and even if one, cannot do such due to the oat of secrecy you people do undertake. Some nairalanders here have also begged you to recommend them to become members since they want to join. I also stated this in my first write up that in both witchcraft and masonry, you need to be recommended by someone in it for you to become one. You always talk as though the masonry in Nigeria is different from that in the US and other countries when some high ranking ones over there have come out of it and exposed them. You people tend to betray yourself in one way or the other and either directly or indirectly.

If the research you carried out told you that masonry was good and so you joined them, then it’s the most unfortunate thing to have ever happened in your life.

You said the website is so disorganized and filled with extremist thoughts. I am happy to let you know that this same site you condemn has been converting people of other faith, liberalist and atheist to the one true faith. And for your information, there is nothing like ‘extremist’ when it comes to the truth. For sure, the website will forever remain disorganized and filled with extremist thoughts for those who cherish falsehood.

Finally you said I even had the guts to quote a document from Pope Leo XIII whose writing you quoted has been shown to be very anti progressive. One who does not know the truth will shudder at this statement of yours and those whom you quoted. But to refute that statement of yours, this is just the truth.

The Holy Roman Church has always taught dogmatically right from time that in it alone lies salvation and all other religions are of the devil.
Psalms 95:5- “For all the gods of the Gentiles are devils…”

1 Cor. 10:20- “But the things which the heathens sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God. And I would not that you should be made partakers with devils.”

Pope Pius XI, Ad Salutem (#27), April 20, 1930: “…all the compulsion and folly, all the outrages and lust, introduced into man’s life by the demons through the worship of false gods.

Pope Leo XII, Ubi primum (#14), May 5, 1824: “it is impossible for the most true God, who is Truth itself, the best, the wisest Provider, and the Rewarder of good men, to approve all sects who profess false teachings which are often inconsistent with one another and contradictory, to confer eternal rewards on their members…, By divine faith we hold one Lord, one faith, one baptism….This is why we profess that there is no salvation outside the [catholic] church

So Pope Leo was right when in his encyclical, he divided the world into two camps, the Holy Catholic Church [ not the Vatican II sect ] which followed Jesus Christ--and then everyone else who, followed Satan. And for sure the others would be aggrieved.

As for the basic rights you mentioned, its quite unfortunate but many do not know that all that came up with the French revolution and its now the right of man and no longer what God has commanded insofar as man is pleased and the catholic church has always condemned that. When Rationalism began in England, it found powerful support in masonry. This is so because masonry has its own formulas and belief about God, the soul, conscience etc. and also has its own secret as well as public ritual. Masonry systematically promotes religious indifferentism and its ultimate purpose is the overthrow of the whole religious, political and social order based on Christian institutions and the establishment of a new state of things based in its principles and laws, on pure Naturalism [all these from their own statement]. Masonry also claims religious tolerance as one of its main principle. And all these, the church condemns.

So how can anyone who is a Mason or loves the Rationalistic or Naturalistic ideas not get aggrieved over the encyclical of this great Pope as such was/is the case in America which were/are filled with masons.

Although I don’t even intend that you believe this since you’ve very well taken your stand. I have never written anything for your consumption but only if possible for just one particular person who might be of goodwill in not giving attention to you since most people in the world are of bad will and don’t want the truth. That is why almost the whole world lies in darkness and on the road to perdition.

Bastage:
The Holy Roman Church also "believed, professed and preached" that the Earth was flat.
I care about as much for their opinion as for yours - ie: zero.

I understand your misconception since you are not even remotely a catholic. We all know that the earth is spherical. The Holy Roman Church has never "believed, professed and preached" that the Earth was flat. When she uses such words [ believes, professes and preaches ], it is something of faith or morals binding on the whole church which can never be wrong. Those who held such did so in their own private judgment and erred. Moreover the church did not made that an infallible statement.

Bastage:
Actually my uneducated friend, it's the other way round. The Catholic church is anti-Freemasonry. The Freemasons themselves couldn't give a flying shit about the church and accept Catholics amongst their ranks. Although it must be noted that any Catholic who joined until recently risked ex-communication. It just goes to show how rabid the Catholic Church is. For it's stance on Masonry, it is matched only by Nazism and Stalinism - two other deluded persecutors.
As for being anti-Christ? You're spouting more deluded conspiracy clap-trap. Freemasonry contains what are known as "The Christian Degrees". These are only open to those who believe in the Trinity and Christ is as adored as much by Freemasons as by any other Christians.

You are again wrong on this. Read the following statement and see who is against the other:
The French Grand Orient Masonic Lodge gave utterances to the following professions of faith in 1885:”We masons must aim for the complete destruction of Catholism”

A chief in the Masonic Alta Vendita lodge proclaimed: “Let us conspire only against Rome”.

In the stone inscription of the Masonic Grand Orient and Supreme Council of France, it says: “The fight taking place between Catholism and freemasonry is a fight to the very death, ceaseless and merciless.”

The Luciferian secret society, the Carbonari, known as the Alta Vendita, wrote a set of Permanent Instructions, or Code of Rules, which appeared in Italy in 1818. It stated:

“…It becomes the duty of the secret societies to make the first advance to the Church,
and to the pope, with the object of conquering both. The work for which we gird ourselves is not the work of a day, nor of a month, nor a year. It may last for many years,
perhaps a century… What we must ask for, what we should look for and wait for, as the Jews wait for the Messiah, is a pope according to our wants. We require a pope for
ourselves, if such a pope were possible. With such a one we shall march more securely to
the storming of the Church, than with all the little books of our French and English brothers.”

The same Freemasonic document made this striking prediction:

“In a hundred years time… bishops and priests will think they are marching behind the banner of the keys of Peter, when in fact they will be following our flag… The reforms will have to be brought about in the name of obedience.”

On April 3, 1844, a leader of the AltaVendita named Nubius wrote a letter to another highly placed mason. The letter spoke again about the plan to infiltrate the Catholic Church, and the attempt to insert a masonic “pope,” who would promote the religion of Freemasonry. “Now then, in order to ensure a pope in the required proportions, we must first of all prepare a generation worthy of the kingdom of which we dream… Let the clergy move forward under your banner (the masonic banner) always believing they are advancing under the banner of the apostolic keys. Cast your net like Simon Bar Jonas; spread it to the bottom of sacristies, seminaries, and convents … You will have finished a revolution dressed in the pope’s triple crown and cape, carrying the cross and the flag, a revolution that will need only a small stimulus to set fire to the four corners of the earth.”

Freemason Eliph Levi said in 1862: “A day will come when the pope… will declare that all the excommunications are lifted and all the anathemas are retracted, when all the Christians will be united within the Church, when the Jews and Moslems will be blessed and called back to her . . . she will permit all sects to approach her by degrees and will embrace all mankind in the communion of her love and prayers. Then, Protestants will no longer exist. Against what will they be able to protest? The sovereign pontiff will then be truly king of the religious world, and he will do whatever he wishes with all the nations of the earth.”

The church has always excommunicated its members who belong to this sect and has never permitted any to join. If you said “until recently”, then know you are not referring to the catholic church but to the Vatican II sect which has even asked its members to seek permission from Rome before joining.

That’s the more reason why the masons have never stop praising the Vatican II anti - popes for supporting their ideas. See below
For John XXII

From the June 4, 1963, edition of The Reporter ( El Informador ):

“The Great Western Mexican Lodge of Free and Accepted Masons, on the occasion of the death of JohnXXII, makes known its sorrow for the disappearance of this great man who revotionalised the ideas, thoughts and forms of the Roman Catholic Liturgy. His encyclicals Matter et Magistra and Pacem in Terris have revolutionalised the concepts favouring human rights and liberty. Mankind has lost a great man, and we Masons acknowledge his high principles, his humanitarianism, and his being a great liberal.

Guadalajara, Jal., Mexico, June 3, 1963

Charles Riandey, sovereign Grand Master of Secret societies, in his preface to a book by Yves Marsaudon (State Minister of the Supreme Council of French secret societies), stated:
To the memory of Angelo Roncalli, priest, Archbishop of Messamaries, Apostolic Nuncio in Paris, Cardinal of the Roman Church, Patriarch of Venice, Pope under the name of John XXII, who has deigned to give us his benediction, his understanding, and his protection.

And that’s why for John Paul II, in December of 1996, the Grand Orient Lodge of Italian Freemasonry offered him its greatest honor, the order of Galilee, as an expression of thanks for the efforts that he made in support of freemasonic ideas. They said he merited the honor because he had promoted “the values of universal Freemasonry: fraternity, respect for the dignity of man, and the spirit of tolerance, central points of the life of true mason”

Finally, you tend to defend them that they are not anti-christ, have “Christian” degrees and adore Christ as much as any other Christians. Those degrees are only “Christian” in name because their actions and speech betrays them. What then will you say of their anti-catholic statement stated above. They state all those things there just to deceive the likes of you people. Or is it the Holy Royal arch degree of the York rite which claims that only “Christians” can join them yet at the opening and closing of every chapter of a meeting, the high priest ask another Royal arch mason the question: “Are you a Royal Arch Mason?” and the other mason responds “I AM THAT I AM”, when we know that God identified himself with these words both to Moses and the Jewish people. This same people profess that the name of God has been lost and at a later degree of the royal arch degree, they say that name that was lost is now found. They then form an arch with their arms and now say “God’s name is Jahbulah” which is the joining of Jehovah with the pagan gods Bel and Osias and they call it the grand magnificent word? What manner of “Christian” degrees are these Mr. conspiracy clap – trap?
Go through all the degrees of Holy Royal arch degree of the York rite which is for the so called “Christians”, and worst still the Scottish rite (even though they don’t have only the so called “Christians” here) see their blasphemies and then judge for your self.

Bastage:
Nah. You're not rude. You're just ignorant and stupid.

Thanks a lot. We receive insults far worse than this on daily basis

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pilgrim.1:
When people quote several other 'Church fathers' , it's often my appeal to them to be very careful. So many of these quotes are recycled repeatedly until nobody is ever sure what the original quotes actually say. An example is your quote of Jerome's above, where he is reputed to have said:

[list][li]"I speak with the successor of the fisherman.Though I acknowlege none as first except christ .I am joined in communion with your holiness ,that is to say in communion with the chair of peter"[/li][/list]

compared with another source, the same Jerome along such lines says rather:

[list][li]"My words are spoken to the successor of the fisherman, to the disciple of the cross. As I follow no leader save Christ, so I communicate with none but your blessedness, that is with the chair of Peter."[/li][/list]

At surface value, it may not seem so much in difference; but if you care to compare notes:

* "I acknowlege none as first except christ"
* "I follow no leader save Christ", etc.

Following on, other 'fathers' merely repeat the same mantra vacantly without showing us where in Scripture we find Peter as the foundation of the Church. Infact, when you compare the sources, you begin to wonder at their contradictions. Let me refer to Irenaeus:

But what did Irenaeus say in his oft-repeated quotes? Sample:

[list][li]"The blessed Apostles, then, founded and built up the church in Rome. They committed the office of bishop into the hands of Linus. Of this, Linus, Paul makes mention in the Epistles to Timothy. To him succeeded Anacletus. After him, in the third place from the Apostles, Clement was allotted the office of bishop." St. Irenaeus, "Against All Heresies," c. 180 A.D.
source: Catholic News Agency[/li][/list]

What are we to infer from the above? We have three names of bishops:
* Linus
* Anacletus
* Clement
If Clement is said to be the third from the Apostles (as Irenaeus said), it simply means that Linus was the first, as appears in that list. Counting on from Linus is why sometimes some list have Pope Benedict XVI as the 264th Pope, and others list him as the 265th Pope. Yet, many Roman Catholics hardly notice this and just repeat the same song all along that Peter (not Linus) was the "first".

First, it was not in Matthew 16 that Simon was surnamed Peter: the naming from Simon to Peter occured much earlier (John 1:42 and Mark 3:16). The Lord Jesus named him 'Peter', not to "prove" that Peter was the foundation of the Church, but simply to show the sort of character and personality by which he would be known. It is remarkable that after the resurrection, Jesus did not call him 'Peter' or 'Cephas', but thrice he called him 'Simon' (see John 21:15, 16, 17).

The surnaming of Simon as 'Peter' is characteristic of Jesus' naming other disciples - to highlight their personalities, just as He did to James and John when he "surnamed them Boanerges, which is, The sons of thunder". It was these same fiesty brothers (typical of their 'thundering excitement') who wished to command fire from heaven upon the Samaritans for rejecting Christ - but the Lord cautioned them about the type of spirit they demonstrated (Luke 9:51-56). So, in surnaming Simon as 'Peter', it proves nothing about Peter being the foundation of the Church.

Perhaps you need to remember that it was Peter who denied Jesus thrice at a critical moment after having boasted that he would follow the Lord even unto death. After the resurrection, you could imagine how the other disciples felt about Peter: sure, they all had desserted Jesus (Mark 14:50), but it was only Peter that categorically denied Him, even cursing and swearing in the process (Matt. 26:74). At that reunion, Jesus affirmed Peter by thrice asking if he loved the Lord. Following Peter's third response, rather than say that Peter was the foundation of the Church, the Lord Jesus instead warned Peter about the type of death by which he would glorify God (John 21:18-19).

Whether you like it or not, Jesus instead spoke to Peter about the type of death he would face in order to glorify God - that was simply the lesson for you in John 21.

The RCC is not a 'victim' - history is replete with factual and well attested documents to show the devastation and havoc it wrecked on non-Catholics.

Okay, if that's what you believe. However, you seem to have no clue that it is rather the RCC that has been expressing deep concerns over her diminishing membership. I don't mean to trouble you, but if you care it may be helpful to calm down and not overreact against non-Catholics. You only need to check the performance record documented from various sources, example:

[list]In 1965 there were 58,000 priests in the U.S.;
in 2002 there were 45,000, of whom 16% come from other countries.

In 1965 there were 1,575 ordinations to the priesthood;
in 2002 there were 450.

In 1965 there were 49,000 seminarians;
in 2002 there were 4,700.

In 1965 there were 180,000 sisters;
in 2002 there were 75,000, with an average age of 68.

In 1965 there were 1,556 Catholic high schools;
in 2002 there were 786.

In 1965 there were 10,503 Catholic grade schools;
in 2002 there were 6,623.

In 1958 weekly Mass attendance was 74%;
in 2000 it was 25%.

Source: BNet United Kingdom
COPYRIGHT 2005 National Review, Inc.
COPYRIGHT 2008 Gale, Cengage Learning[/list]

There shouldn't be ill-feelings about these discussions, the one thing being that you should try to establish a Biblical basis for the RCC idea that Peter was ever the foundation upon which the Church is being built. So far, only one thing stands - such an idea has not been established from the very same source that the RCC appeals to: the Bible.

Regards.

[quote author=pilgrim.1 link=topic=265611.msg3810530#msg3810530 date=1241230265]Hi JJYOU,

Good evening sir. Lol, of course I know you meant no harm. As for my background, I'm into IT (not quite good at it, though. . . but I dey manage).

kindly lod on to the section of "refuting protestantism " or audio section of www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com and find all the answers to your objections on this issue.
also, know that as regards the figures which you quoted as the decl;ine in catholism, that which you called the catholic church is not it at all but the vatican II sect. The catholic church is still in existence but actually reduced to a remnant.Yes , we are actually small because catholicism is basically holding the faith whole and entire, outside of which one is not a catholic and not saved.
the monks have written a book "the bible proves the teachings of the catholic church". if you need it, you can contact me on my mail and i'll send them free to you.

chukwudi44:
The primacy of st peter was never doubted by the early church .That was why the bishop of Rome is regarded as the first among the church since peter died as bishop of Rome.It might interest you to know that in AD96 pope clement 1 resolved a dispute in the corinthian church even whe Apostle John who was bishop of a nearby diocese of Ephesus was still alive.
The bishop of rome has always been regardedas being the leader of the christian church since the first century AD This view is clearly expressed by st Irenaeus in his work Against the heretics where he wrote

"The blessed Apostles(peter and paul) after having founded the church committed into linus the episcopate .Of this linus paul makes mention in his letter to timothy,to him succeeded anacletus and after him third place from the Apostles clement was alloted the bishopric"

Irenaeus is regarded as anunbroken chain in the line of the apostles because he grew up under polycarp of smyrna who was brougt up by John the Apostles.Obviously Irenaeus was not far from the true teachings of the apostles his writings alongside those of Tertullian,ignatius of Antioch point to the fact that the church has always been built around petr and the bishop of rome as the suuccessors of peter inherited this powers

You protestants Please if the RCC is not the church left behind by the apostles could anyone here please tell me what happened to the church left by the Aposstles ,how come a "delvish church" came and held sway for more than 1400 years before the protestant reformation.It is ridiculous to think that the church built by the apostles could just disapear while those od Adeboye,Oyedepo,benny hinn et.c flourishes.

Where was the so called true church when the RCC decided the books of the bi

my dear Chukwudii44,
what you say is the truth. However, to be honest with you, it only takes the grace of God to convert a muslim or protestant to the true catholic faith because of their stubborn heartedness and strong hatred for the catholic church.
i beg you in the name of God, forget about them for now and try to know what the true catholic faith is all about and hold unto itsince you are still with the vatican II sect which is claimning to be the catholic church and misleading people. go through the site of the monks (www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com) and should you have any question,you cam mail me or prefarably the monks. if you also need any of their materials, contact me and i'll send them free of charge.
this was the main reason behind my posting this topic so those going along with the new faith of the 2nd vatican council and thinking they are catholics would be aware of this.
above all, pray earnestly the rosary so our Lady can enlighten you on all these.l

KAPTEN:
I am not wounded neither am I bitter.I am here to state the facts.When you throw accusations be ready to back them up with facts.

I would like proof from YOU that Theodore Hertzel is a member of a regular lodge.

I would also like to know the source of the quotation ascribed to him.(ensure you give the whole shebang and not two lines taken out of context)

I am a Freemason and I am telling you what the Fraternity is and isn't and you a none member is telling me I don't know what I am saying??

I am not trying to convince anyone to do anything apart from stop spreading lies.I don't know you but from your post I can tell you are very ignorant,easily gullible,and cant separate facts from fiction and a liar to boot.

Its your type that swallows all that comes their way without objective analysis.

C&P crap that have been long discredited wont do you any good.I know all you anti masons tactics.Facts don't lie.

I am happy to be gullible insofar as it would enable me believe the truths of the HOLY ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH outside of which no one is saved. Yes, for the Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that freemasonry is evil. Pope Leo XIII: “It is needless now to put the Masonic sects upon their trial. They are already judged; their ends, their means, their doctrines, and their action, are all known with indisputable certainty. Possessed by the spirit of Satan, whose instrument they are, they burn like him with a deadly and implacable hatred of Jesus Christ and of His work; and they endeavor by every means to overthrow and fetter it.” Now, how can she in all her wisdom throughout the ages condemn this sect if it is actually good? Won’t she be judged to be a liar? It’s only the Vatican II sect that tallies with you people. That’s why their so called popes and bishops heaps praise on you people because their church is a den of masons.

As for being anti-masonry, you shouldn’t be surprise at all. He who does not stand with his mother even when she is right is not worthy of the title – SON. Freemasonry is anti- catholic and worst of all anti-Christ (I guess you would also deny this) and you expect me to stand with them? No mason Kapten.

If you infer that I am rude. So be it. For in truth, he or persons and groups whom the devil uses as a bait to drag souls to hell does not deserve any iota of respect whatsoever.

NAIRALANDERS, there are DVD’s that exposes masonry just the way they are. You could check them out on www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com or better still contact me on any one of your choice and I’ll send them to you free of charge. If you feel the information there is incorrect, you could ask the monks on their email mhfm1@aol.com and not one who is brought here to deceive souls. You could also log onto this site http://www.vatican.edu/holy_father/leo_xiii/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_18840420_humanum-genus_en.html and see this encyclical on freemasonry and then judge for your selves if kapten and his cohorts are right or the Church, which is the pillar and ground of truth is right. Believe me, these people are making themselves known all over the world and appearing as the good “guys” just to deceive people.
Thanks

~Lady~:
Pray for those who have left the Church, who bought into the lies of the devil who is the master twister of the scriptures, for clearly he tempted Our Lord with the scriptrues. Pray for our Protestant brothers and sisters, that they may come to know the fullness of the truth. Pray for those who do not know the Lord and do not want to know him. Pray for the Church that she will continue to stand firm.

Sancta, God bless you for this truth!!!

Please pray for me, I have final exams this week and it's the week of my graduation, so please pray for me, thank you.

Jesus loves you
Mary loves you
I love you

Thank you so much lady. I sincerely wish you the very best. Above all I pray for the gift of the true catholic faith for you from my heart since you truly love it though are at the wrong side which is the Vatican II sect that has brought up the counterfeit church hence deceiving people in making them believe they are Catholics. The truth is that the people who go along with the new Vatican II religion do not have the true faith. To be saved, they need to come to the traditional Catholic faith.

Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, “Cantate Domino,” 1441, ex cathedra:
“The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that all those who are outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans but also Jews or heretics and schismatics, cannot share in eternal life and will go into the everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless they are joined to the Church before the end of their lives; that the unity of this ecclesiastical body is of such importance that only for those who abide in it do the Church’s sacraments contribute to salvation and do fasts, almsgiving and other works of piety and practices of the Christian militia produce eternal rewards; and that nobody can be saved, no matter how much he has given away in alms and even if he has shed blood in the name of Christ, [b]unless he has persevered in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.”[/b]This is a dogmatic statement of the church which can never be changed and remain till the end of time. Notice that it says heretics are also outside the Catholic Church. And who is a heretic? It is any baptized person who rejects a dogma of the Catholic Church. Unfortunately, after the 2nd Vatican council which took place btw 1962-65, the church ( its pope from John XXIII – Benedict XVI together with their bishop and priest) that has arisen from there have embraced and constantly taught heresy. They even deny this dogma and its sad that people embrace their teachings thus becoming heretics as well.
E.g

1. That we and muslim worship the same God who will come to judge mankind on the last day. Muslims don’t believe in the Trinity and in Jesus Christ as being God. We know for sure that it is Christ who will come to judge mankind on the last day just as he told us in scriptures. So if the post Vatican II “popes” are saying this, then what God are they referring to.Even though we all know Christ is God, they never mention his name in their dealings with all these religions

Here is what the church teaches on Islam.

Pope Eugene IV, Council of Basel, Session 19, Sept. 7, 1434:
“… there is hope that very many from the abominable sect of Mahomet will be converted to the Catholic faith.”

The Catholic Church considers Islam an “abominable” and “diabolical” sect. [Note:
the Council of Basel is only considered ecumenical/approved in the first 25 sessions, as
The Catholic Encyclopedia points out in Vol. 4, “Councils,” pp. 425‐426.] An
“abomination” is something that is abhorrent in God’s sight; it’s something that He has
no esteem for and no respect for. Something “diabolical” is something of the Devil.
Islam rejects, among many other dogmas, the Divinity of Jesus Christ and the Trinity.
Its followers are outside the pale of salvation so long as they remain Muslims.

Pope Clement V, Council of Vienne, 1311-1312:
“It is an insult to the holy name and a disgrace to the Christian faith that in certain parts of the world subject to Christian princes where Saracens [i.e., the followers of Islam, also called Muslims] live, sometimes apart, sometimes intermingled with Christians, the Saracen priests, commonly called Zabazala, in their temples or mosques, in which the Saracens meet to adore the infidel Mahomet, loudly invoke and extol his name each day at certain hours from a high place… There is a place, moreover, where once was buried a certain Saracen whom other Saracens venerate as a saint. This brings disrepute on our faith and gives great scandal to the faithful. These practices cannot be tolerated without displeasing the divine majesty. We therefore, with the sacred council’s approval, strictly forbid such practices henceforth in Christian lands. We enjoin on Catholic princes, one and all… They are to remove this offense together from their territories and take care that their subjects remove it, so that they may thereby attain the reward of eternal happiness. They are to forbid expressly the public invocation of the sacrilegious name of Mahomet… Those who presume to act otherwise are to be so chastised by the princes for their irreverence, that others may be deterred from such boldness.”

On May 14, 1999, the late John Paul II bowed to and kiss the Koran and worshipped with them in Damascus on May 6, 2001. Benedict XVI, followed the example of John Paul II on Nov 30, 2006 in Turkey. He even went as far as removing his shoes and praying towards the east like them. This is total denier of the Christian faith.

St. Thomas Aquinas, summa theological, Pt. II, Q.12, A. 1, Obj. 2;”…. If anyone were to worship at the tomb of mahomet, he would be deemed an apostate”

2. They all respect, honor and heap praises on false religions such as Buddhism, Hinduism etc.

The church and sacred scriptures refers to all of them as being of the devil.
Pope Pius XI, Ad Salutem (#27), April 20, 1930: “…all the compulsion and folly, all the outrages and lust, introduced into man’s life by the demons through the worship of false gods.”

Psalms 95:5- “For all the gods of the Gentiles are devils…”

1 Cor. 10:20- “But the things which the heathens sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God. And I would not that you should be made partakers with devils.”

You even desire and wish for the conversion of Protestants but the Vatican II religion sees all that as nonsense. That’s why you see their clergy extolling and praying with them. However, see what the church says about this:

Pope Leo XII, Ubi primum (#14), May 5, 1824: “it is impossible for the most true God, who is Truth itself, the best, the wisest Provider, and the Rewarder of good men, to approve all sects who profess false teachings which are often inconsistent with one another and contradictory, to confer eternal rewards on their members…, By divine faith we hold one Lord, one faith, one baptism….This is why we profess that there is no salvation outside the [catholic] church”

The list is endless. They changed the traditional Latin mass to an invalid false mass. They altered the very words of consecration which has been declared necessary for it.
The form necessary to confect the Eucharist in the Roman Rite was declared by Pope Eugene IV at the Council of Florence.

Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, Cantate Domino, 1441: “…the holy Roman Church, relying on the teaching and authority of the apostles Peter and Paul… uses this form of words in the consecration of the Lord's Body: FOR THIS IS MY BODY. And of His blood: FOR THIS IS THE CHALICE OF MY BLOOD, OF THE NEW AND ETERNAL TESTAMENT: THE MYSTERY OF FAITH, WHICH SHALL BE SHED FOR YOU AND FOR MANY UNTO THE REMISSION OF SINS."

In Pope St. Pius V’s Decree De Defectibus, we find the same words repeated:

Pope St. Pius V, De Defectibus, chapter 5, Part 1:
"The words of Consecration, which are the FORM of this Sacrament, are these: FOR THIS IS MY BODY. And: FOR THIS IS THE CHALICE OF MY BLOOD, OF THE NEW AND ETERNAL TESTAMENT: THE MYSTERY OF FAITH, WHICH SHALL BE SHED FOR YOU AND FOR MANY UNTO THE REMISSION OF SINS. Now if one were to remove, or change anything in the FORM of the consecration of the Body and Blood, and in that very change of words the [new] wording would fail to mean the same thing, he would not consecrate the sacrament."

THE FORM OF CONSECRATION IN THE NEW MASS IS THIS

“For this is my body. For this is the chalice of my blood, of the new and eternal testament. It shall be shed for you and FOR ALL SO THAT SINS MAY BE FORGIVEN.”

The words “for you and for many unto the remission of sins” have been changed to for you and for all so that sins may be forgiven. This huge change invalidates all the new masses.

With this, we can clearly see that the host in the new mass is merely a piece of bread, not Our Lord’s Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity.

3. They also revised all the sacraments thus making some invalid. Even the sacrament of Holy Orders, for ordaining priest and bishops have been changed. Though the biggest problem with the new rite of ordination is not the form, but the surrounding ceremonies which have been removed

Here are some of the specific prayers and ceremonies which set forth the true nature of the priesthood in the Traditional Rite which have been specifically eliminated from the New Rite of Ordination of Paul VI. The following information is found in Michael Davies, The Order of Melchisedech, pp. 79 and following.

In the Traditional Rite, the bishop addresses the ordinands and says:
► “For it is a priest’s duty to offer sacrifice, to bless, to lead, to preach and to baptize.”
This admonition has been abolished.

The Litany of the Saints then follows in the Traditional Rite. It has been cut short in the New Rite. The New Rite abolishes the following unecumenical assertion:
► “That Thou wouldst recall all who have wandered from the unity of the Church,
and lead all believers to the light of the Gospel.”

Later on in the Traditional Rite, after pronouncing the essential form, which has been changed in the New Rite (see above), the bishop says another prayer, which includes the following:
► “Theirs be the task to change with blessing undefiled, for the service of thy people,
bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Thy Son.”
This prayer has been abolished.

In the Traditional Rite, the bishop then intones the Veni Creator Spiritus. While anointing each priest he says:
► “Be pleased, Lord, to consecrate and sanctify these hands by this anointing, and our
blessing. That whatsoever they bless may be blessed, and whatsoever they consecrate
may be consecrated and sanctified in the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ.”
This prayer has been abolished. And this prayer was so significant that it was even mentioned by Pius XII in Mediator Dei #43:
Pope Pius XII, Mediator Dei (# 43), Nov. 20, 1947: “… they alone [priests] have been
marked with the indelible sign ‘conforming’ them to Christ the Priest, and that their
hands alone have been consecrated, ‘in order that whatever they bless may be blessed,
whatever they consecrate may become sacred and holy, in the name of Our Lord Jesus
Christ.’”
Notice that Pius XII, in speaking of how the priests have been marked in ordination, makes reference to this very important prayer which was specifically abolished by Paul VI’s new 1968 Rite.

Shortly after this prayer in the Traditional Rite, the bishop says to each ordinand:
► “Receive the power to offer sacrifice to God, and to celebrate Mass, both for the
living and the dead, in the name of the Lord.”
This exceptionally important prayer has been abolished in the New Rite.

In the Traditional Rite, the new priests then concelebrate Mass with the bishop. At the end, each new priest kneels before the bishop who lays both hands upon the head of each and says:
► “Receive the Holy Ghost. Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and
whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.”
This ceremony and prayer has been abolished.

In the Traditional Rite:
► “…the new priests then promise obedience to their bishop who ‘charges’ them to
bear in mind that offering Holy Mass is not free from risk and that they should learn
everything necessary from diligent priests before undertaking so fearful a responsibility.”

This admonition has been abolished.
Finally, before completing the Mass, the bishop imparts a blessing:
► “The blessing of God Almighty, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, come down
upon you, and make you blessed in the priestly Order, enabling you to offer propitiatory sacrifices for the sins of the people to Almighty God.”
This blessing has been abolished.

Thus 99.9% of these men parading themselves as priest of the Catholic Church are not even validly ordained hence they are just lay men like you and me since they neither have the power to bless, say mass, consecrate the host and absolve men of their sins.It is only those of them ordained in the traditional rite with validly ordained bishops as in Europe and America that are priest. Though all of them hold on to one or more heresies.

Dear lady, I cannot exhaust all here that’s why I keep on pleading that people log onto the site I stated above( www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com) and I can send them any of the books, audios and videos of the monks which are all based on the teaching magisterium of the church and not just mere fabrication. The e-exchanges clearly shows questions and answers that they respond to when people ask them and I thank God that there are those who love the truth and are responding. Ibeg you in the name of God and for the love you have for the true catholic faith to do the same. Above all, pray earnestly to Our Lady to give you the grace to understand as i will be praying for you daily.
Please read also my reply to the question of chukwudi44 and see what the gates of hell means which people are not really aware of .

chukwudi44:
Oladegbu please also explain these passages
lk22:31-32
I ve prayed for you simon that your faith will never fail and when you turn back to me go and streghten your brethren
Also in the Gospel of John 21: Jesus thrice told peter to FEED MY LAMBS
Please why did Jesus direct this instructions only to peter and not the entire twelve apostles.Also explain why all the writers of the Gospel when naming the twelve disciples always put peter's name first.
You ran away from the other thread when u cuold not provide answer to my questions
Isee you have a pathological hatred for the RCC unfortunately for you THE GATES OF HELL WILL NEVER PREVAIL AGAINST IT

The gates of hell used by Christ does not just apply to all “churches” but only the Holy Roman Catholic Church.

Indefectibility (the promise of Christ to always be with His Church, and that the gates of Hell will not prevail against it) means that the Church will, until the end of time, remain essentially what she is. The indefectibility of the Church requires that at least a remnant of the Church will exist until the end of the world, and that a true pope will never authoritatively teach error to the entire Church. It does not exclude antipopes posing as popes (as we’ve had numerous times in the past, even in Rome) or a counterfeit sect that reduces the adherents of the true Catholic Church to a remnant in the last days. This is precisely what is predicted to occur in the last days and what happened during the Arian crisis.

St. Athanasius: "Even if Catholics faithful to tradition are reduced to a handful, they
are the ones who are the true Church of Jesus Christ."

Further, it should be noted that the Church has defined that heretics are the gates of Hell which Our Lord mentioned in Matthew 16!

Pope Vigilius, Second Council of Constantinople, 553:
“… we bear in mind what was promised about the holy Church and Him who said the
gates of Hell will not prevail against it (by these we understand the death-dealing
tongues of heretics)…”

Pope St. Leo IX, Sept. 2, 1053: “The holy Church built upon a rock, that is Christ, and
upon Peter… because by the gates of Hell, that is, by the disputations of heretics which lead the vain to destruction, it would never be overcome.”

St. Thomas Aquinas (+1262): “Wisdom may fill the hearts of the faithful, and put to
silence the dread folly of heretics, fittingly referred to as the gates of Hell.” (Intro. To Catena Aurea.)

Notice that heretics are the gates of Hell. Heretics are not members of the Church. That’s why a heretic could never be a pope. The gates of Hell (heretics) could never have authority over the Church of Christ. It’s not those who expose the heretical Vatican II antipopes who are asserting that the gates of Hell have prevailed against the Church; it’s those who obstinately defend them as popes, even though they can clearly be proven to be manifest heretics.

Pope Innocent III, Eius exemplo, Dec. 18, 1208:
“By the heart we believe and by the mouth we confess the one Church, not of heretics,
but the Holy Roman, Catholic, and Apostolic Church outside of which we believe that no
one is saved.”

St. Francis De Sales (17th century), Doctor of the Church, The Catholic Controversy, pp.
305-306: "Now when he [the Pope] is explicitly a heretic, he falls ipso facto from his
dignity and out of the Church, "

This is the true meaning of it. That’s why we keep on telling people that the post Vatican II “popes” are not popes at all because even dogmatically, the church has taught that once they embrace heresy, they automatically fall away from the church.

Pope Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum (# 9):
“No one who merely disbelieves in all (these heresies) can for that reason regard himself
as a Catholic or call himself one. For there may be or arise some other heresies, which are
not set out in this work of ours, and, if any one holds to a single one of these he is not a
Catholic.”

St. Robert Bellarmine, Cardinal and Doctor of the Church, De Romano Pontifice, II, 30:
"A pope who is a manifest heretic automatically (per se) ceases to be pope and head, just as he ceases automatically to be a Christian and a member of the Church. Wherefore, he can be judged and punished by the Church. This is the teaching of all the ancient Fathers who teach that manifest heretics immediately lose all jurisdiction."

St. Robert Bellarmine, De Romano Pontifice, II, 30:
"This principle is most certain. The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope, as Cajetan himself admits (ib. c. 26). The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member; now he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian (lib. 4, epist. 2), St. Athanasius (Scr. 2 cont. Arian.), St. Augustine (lib. De great. Christ. Cap. 20), St. Jerome (contra Lucifer.) and others; therefore the manifest heretic cannot be Pope."

St. Francis De Sales (17th century), Doctor of the Church, The Catholic Controversy, pp.
305-306: "Now when he [the Pope] is explicitly a heretic, he falls ipso facto from
his dignity and out of the Church, "

St. Antoninus (1459): "In the case in which the pope would become a heretic, he
would find himself, by that fact alone and without any other sentence, separated from the Church. A head separated from a body cannot, as long as it remains separated, be head of the same body from which it was cut off. A pope who would be separated from the Church by heresy, therefore, would by that very fact itself cease to be head of the Church. He could not be a heretic and remain pope, because, since he is outside of the Church, he cannot possess the keys of the Church." (Summa Theologica, cited in Actes de Vatican I. V. Frond pub.)

And to your first question, this is the explanation.

It is a fact of history, scripture and tradition that Our Lord Jesus Christ founded His universal Church (the Catholic Church) upon St. Peter.
Matthew 16:18-19-“And I say to thee: That thou art Peter: and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.”

Our Lord made St. Peter the first pope, entrusted to him His entire flock, and gave
him supreme authority in the universal Church of Christ.

John 21:15-17-“Jesus saith to Simon Peter: Simon, son of John, lovest thou me? He saith to him: Yea, Lord, thou knowest that I love thee. He saith to him: Feed my lambs. He saith to him again: Simon, son of John, lovest thou me? He saith to him: Yea, Lord, thou knowest that I love thee. He saith to him: Feed my lambs. He saith to him a third time: Simon, son of John, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved, because he had said to him the third time: Lovest thou me? And he said to him: Lord, thou knowest all things: thou knowest that I love thee. He said to him: Feed my sheep.”

And with the supreme authority that Our Lord Jesus Christ conferred upon St. Peter
(and his successors, the popes) comes what is called Papal Infallibility. Papal Infallibility
is inseparable from Papal Supremacy – there was no point for Christ to make St. Peter
the head of His Church (as Christ clearly did) if St. Peter or his successors, the popes,
could err when exercising that supreme authority to teach on a point of Faith. The supreme authority must be unfailing on binding matters of Faith and morals or else it is
no true authority from Christ at all.

Papal Infallibility does not mean that a pope cannot err at all and it does not mean
that a pope cannot lose his soul and be damned in Hell for grave sin. It means that the
successors of St. Peter (the popes of the Catholic Church) cannot err when authoritatively teaching on a point of Faith or morals to be held by the entire Church of Christ. We find the promise of the unfailing faith for St. Peter and his successorsreferred to by Christ in Luke 22.

Luke 22:31-32- “And the Lord said: Simon, Simon, behold Satan hath desired to
have all of you, that he may sift you as wheat: But I have prayed for thee, that
thy faith fail not: and thou, being once converted, confirm thy brethren.” Satan desired to sift all the Apostles (plural) like wheat, but Jesus prayed for Simon Peter (singular), that his faith fail not. Jesus is saying that St. Peter and his successors (the popes of the Catholic Church) have an unfailing faith when authoritatively teaching a point of faith or morals to be held by the entire Church of Christ.

Pope Pius IX, Vatican Council I, 1870, ex cathedra:
“SO, THIS GIFT OF TRUTH AND A NEVER FAILING FAITH WAS DIVINELY CONFERRED UPON PETER AND HIS SUCCESSORS IN THIS CHAIR…”

Pope Pius IX, Vatican Council I, 1870, ex cathedra:
“… the See of St. Peter always remains unimpaired by any error, according to the divine promise of our Lord the Savior made to the chief of His disciples: ‘I have prayed for thee [Peter], that thy faith fail not , ’”

And this truth has been held since the earliest times in the Catholic Church.

Pope St. Gelasius I, epistle 42, or Decretal de recipiendis et non recipiendis libris, 495:
“Accordingly, the see of Peter the Apostle of the Church of Rome is first, having
neither spot, nor wrinkle, nor anything of this kind (Eph. 5:27).

The word “infallible” actually means “cannot fail” or “unfailing.” Therefore, the very term Papal Infallibility comes directly from Christ’s promise to St. Peter (and his successors) in Luke 22, that Peter has an unfailing Faith. Though this truth was believed
since the beginning of the Church, it was specifically defined as a dogma at the First
Vatican Council in 1870.

Pope Pius IX, Vatican Council I, 1870, Session 4, Chap. 4:
“…the Roman Pontiff, when he speaks ex cathedra [from the Chair of Peter], that is, when carrying out the duty of the pastor and teacher of all Christians in accord with his supreme apostolic authority he explains a doctrine of faith or morals to be held by the universal Church, operates with that infallibility with which the divine Redeemer wished that His Church be instructed in defining doctrine on faith and morals; and so such definitions of the Roman Pontiff from himself, but not from the consensus of the Church, are unalterable.”

But how does one know when a pope is exercising his unfailing Faith to infallibly
teach from the Chair of St. Peter? The answer is that we know from the language that
the pope uses or the manner in which the pope teaches. Vatican I defined two requirements which must be fulfilled: 1) when the pope is carrying out his duty as
pastor and teacher of all Christians in accord with his supreme apostolic authority; 2)
when he explains a doctrine on faith or morals to be held by the entire Church of Christ.

A pope can fulfill both of these requirements in just one line, by anathematizing a false
opinion (such as many dogmatic councils) or by saying “By our apostolic authority we
declare…” or by saying “We believe, profess, and teach” or by using words of similar
importance and meaning, which indicate that the pope is teaching the whole Church on
Faith in a definitive and binding fashion.

So, when a pope teaches from the Chair of Peter in the manner stipulated above he cannot be wrong. If he could be wrong, then the Church of Christ could be officially led into error, and Christ’s promise to St. Peter and His Church would fail (which is impossible).

That which is taught from the Chair of Peter by the popes of the Catholic Church is the teaching of Jesus Christ Himself. To reject that which is taught by the popes from the Chair of Peter is simply to despise Jesus Christ Himself.

Luke 10:16- “He that heareth you, heareth me: and he that despiseth you despiseth me…”
Matthew 18:17 ‐“And if he will not hear the church, let him be to thee as the heathen and publican.”

Pope Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum, 1896:
“… Christ instituted a living, authoritative and permanent Magisterium… If it could in any way be false, an evident contradiction follows; for then God Himself would be the author of error in man.”

This is just the explanation of your question. The monks have written a book “The Bible Proves the Teachings of the Catholic Church”. Any one interested can contact me and when I order them will send it free of charge. Very good for those who doubt the teachings and practices of the Catholic church as not having biblical basis.

Some Basic Truths and Facts that Catholics must know ( all taken from www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com . I urge all who claim to profess the "catholic" faith to log on to this site and know the truths of the catholic faith in this time of great apostasy.
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Since very few still have the faith and even fewer preach it, there is a widespread ignorance of even the basic truths of the Catholic Faith in our day.



Pope Benedict XIV, Cum Religiosi (# 4), June 26, 1754:

“See to it that every minister performs carefully the measures laid down by the holy Council of Trent… that confessors should perform this part of their duty whenever anyone stands at their tribunal who does not know what he must by necessity of means know to be saved…”



We will now review some of them:



The Trinity and the Incarnation



There is one God in Three Divine Persons (Father, Son and Holy Ghost). The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God; yet they are not three gods, but One God. The Second Person of the Blessed Trinity, the Son of God, assumed a human nature and became man from the flesh of the Virgin Mary. Our Lord Jesus Christ is one Divine Person with two natures: divine and human. He is God and man. The Trinity (One God: Father, Son and Holy Ghost) and the Incarnation are the two most essential mysteries of the Catholic Faith which no one above reason can be ignorant of and be saved.



St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica: “After grace had been revealed, both the learned and simple folk are bound to explicit faith in the mysteries of Christ, chiefly as regards those which are observed throughout the Church, and publicly proclaimed, such as the articles which refer to the Incarnation, of which we have spoken above.”



Saint Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica: “And consequently, when once grace had been revealed, all were bound to explicit faith in the mystery of the Trinity.”



All who die in mortal sin will go to Hell



Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, “Letentur coeli,” Sess. 6, July 6, 1439, ex cathedra: “We define also that… the souls of those who depart this life in actual mortal sin, or in original sin alone, go straightaway to Hell, but to undergo punishments of different kinds.”



Catholics must also know that all who die in mortal sin will go to Hell forever. Mortal sins include: murder, fornication (i.e. sexual acts outside of marriage or acts leading up to sex outside of marriage), lying, drunkenness, consenting to impure thoughts, masturbation, looking at pornography, adultery, cheating, taking God’s name in vain, birth control (NFP) or artificial contraception, assisting the propagation of heresy, funding heretics, dishonoring the Sabbath, breaking the commandments, etc. If someone were to commit a mortal sin and then go to Confession, he must have the firm resolution never to commit the sin again. This is called the firm purpose of amendment. If a person commits a mortal sin and doesn’t have the firm purpose of amendment when he goes to Confession, he commits a sacrilege and the Confession is invalid. Most souls go to Hell because of sins of the flesh. Those who are committing sins of the flesh need to stop immediately if they don’t want to perish forever in the fires of Hell.



St. Alphonsus on the damnation of the impure: "Continue, O fool, says St. Peter Damian (speaking to the unchaste), continue to gratify the flesh; for the day will come in which thy impurities will become as pitch in thy entrails, to increase and aggravate the torments of the flame which will burn thee in Hell: 'The day will come, yea rather the night, when thy lust shall be turned into pitch, to feed in thy bowels the everlasting fire." (Preparation for Death, abridged version, p. 117)



What is the Papacy?



Many of those who claim to be Catholics also don’t understand the Papacy. We’ve discovered from experience that many of those who even claim to be “traditional” Catholics don’t even know that the Papacy is. The Office of the Papacy is the office that Christ instituted in St. Peter (see Mt. 16:18-20; John 21:15-17). St. Peter was made the chief of the Apostles and visible head of the Church by Jesus Christ. The Office of St. Peter (the Papacy) is occupied by every true and lawful Bishop of Rome, who becomes a successor to St. Peter in the primacy over the universal (Catholic) Church of Jesus Christ. This means and guarantees that every time there is a true and valid occupant of the Office he is endowed by Christ with infallibility (in his authoritative and binding teaching capacity, not in everything he says or teaches); he is endowed with supreme jurisdiction over the universal Church; and he is the visible head of the Church. That remains true for every true and lawful occupant of the Papal Office. Those teachings proclaimed by the popes in history with their binding authority (such as the Council of Trent or the Council of Florence or a solemn Papal Bull on faith, etc.) constitute the deposit of faith – the unchangeable teachings to which Catholics must submit, and on which they base what they believe as the faithful transmission of the teaching of Scripture and Tradition. The Papacy doesn’t mean that the Church will have a true pope at all times, as Church history and more than 200 papal vacancies prove, nor does it mean that antipopes reigning from Rome are an impossibility (such as Antipope Anacletus II, who reigned in Rome from 1130-1138) – as is the case today.

Very few are Saved and most of the world, including most Catholics, are damned

Catholics must also understand that few are saved. Our Lord Jesus Christ revealed that the road to Heaven is straight and narrow and few find it, while the road to Hell is wide and taken by most (Mt. 7:13).

Matthew 7:13- “Enter ye in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there are who go in thereat. How narrow is the gate, and strait is the way that leadeth to life, and few there are that find it!”

Luke 13:24- “Strive to enter by the narrow gate; for many, I say to you, shall seek to enter, and shall not be able.”

Scripture also teaches that almost the entire world lies in darkness, so much so that Satan is even called the “prince” (John 12:31) and “god” (2 Cor. 4:3) of this world.

1 John 5:19- “We know that we are of God, and the whole world is seated in wickedness.”

It is the sad fact of history that most people in the world are of bad will and don’t want the truth. That is why almost the whole world lies in darkness and on the road to perdition. This has been the case since the beginning. It was the case when only eight souls (Noe and his family) escaped God’s wrath in the deluge that covered the entire earth, and when the Israelites rejected God’s law and fell into idolatry over and over again.

The truth is that for those who truly believe in God, accept His full truth (the Catholic Faith), don’t compromise it and want to do the right thing, it’s not hard to reach Heaven. As Christ said, “My yoke is sweet and My burden light” (Mt. 11:30). The reason that so few make it is not because it’s that hard, but because they refuse to believe the simple and easy things He has revealed, and do the simple and easy things He has commanded. Those who do what God wants and believe what He says realize that they are much happier than they were before.

But the sad truth is that almost all people are of bad will. This is why the saints and Doctors of the Church have consistently taught only a very small percentage of people are saved. In fact, the saints and Doctors of the Church, even during the ages of faith, taught that most adult Catholics are lost.

St. Leonard of Port Maurice [A.D. 1676-1751], on the fewness of the saved: “After consulting all the theologians and making a diligent study of the matter, he [Suarez] wrote, ‘The most common sentiment which is held is that, among Christians [Catholics], there are more damned souls than predestined souls.’ Add the authority of the Greek and Latin Fathers to that of the theologians, and you will find that almost all of them say the same thing. This is the sentiment of Saint Theodore, Saint Basil, Saint Ephrem, Saint John Chrysostom. What is more, according to Baronius it was a common opinion among the Greek Fathers that this truth was expressly revealed to Saint Simeon Stylites and that after this revelation, it was to secure his salvation that he decided to live standing on top of a pillar for forty years, exposed to the weather, a model of penance and holiness for everyone. Now let us consult the Latin Fathers. You will hear Saint Gregory saying clearly, "Many attain to faith, but few to the heavenly kingdom." Saint Anselm declares, "There are few who are saved." Saint Augustine states even more clearly, "Therefore, few are saved in comparison to those who are damned." The most terrifying, however, is Saint Jerome. At the end of his life, in the presence of his disciples, he spoke these dreadful words: "Out of one hundred thousand people whose lives have always been bad, you will find barely one who is worthy of indulgence."

When St. Leonard of Port Maurice uses the term “Christian,” he means Catholics, not heretics. St. Leonard is repeating the consistent teaching of the Fathers and Doctors: most adult Catholics (not even including the non-Catholic world) are lost. If this was the sentiment about the salvation of Catholics in the ages of faith, what would they say today? If you have trouble accepting the truths presented on this website because “it’s just too hard to believe that this many people could be wrong or deceived,” consider the teaching of Our Lord and the saints above. Consider how much more true the teaching on the fewness of the saved is today:

“Lucia found Jacinta sitting alone, still and very pensive, gazing at nothing. ‘What are you thinking of, Jacinta?’ ‘Of the war that is going to come. So many people are going to die. And almost all of them are going to Hell.’” (Our Lady of Fatima, p. 94; p. 92 in some versions)

Jacinta of Fatima, who had visions of future events, said that of those who would die in World War II almost all of them would go to Hell.

St. Anselm: “If thou wouldst be certain of being in the number of the elect, strive to be one of the few, not of the many. And if thou wouldst be quite sure of thy salvation, strive to be among the fewest of the few… Do not follow the great majority of mankind, but follow those who enter upon the narrow way, who renounce the world, who give themselves to prayer, and who never relax their efforts by day or by night, that they may attain everlasting blessedness.” (Fr. Martin Von Cochem, The Four Last Things, p. 221.)

Act of Contrition



O my God, I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee, and I detest all my sins, because I dread the loss of heaven, and the pains of hell; but most of all because they offend Thee, my God, Who are all good and deserving of all my love. I firmly resolve, with the help of Thy grace, to confess my sins, to do penance, and to amend my life. Amen.

still urging all to log onto www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com and see the truths of salvation, for time is running out. Besides most complex question people ask here that definite answers can not be given could be directed to the monks on their email mhfm1@aol.com
it is also important that those who claim to be "CATHOLICS" see what the catholic faith actually is!!
thanks

Aloy.Emeka:
You are saying that we non catholics will not be saved?. When will you guys stop preaching jargon in the name of God?. Fr Mbaka whom I rever so much is a catholic priest that prays and delivers both catholics and non catholics alike. Why didn't he tell the non catholics that they are yet to be saved until they become catholic?. Fr Edeh does the same even though some pentecostal haters do slam him with lies. Adeboye, Kumiyi etc etc do meet and fellowship with catholic leaders at times in Nigeria. What is y'all problem?

The people whom you call priest are not priest at all. All those ordained in the new rite of Paul VI since 1968 lacks the essential form that makes them priest. Hence they are just lay men like you and me. After the 2nd Vatican council which took place between 1962 – 65, there have been a new dogma, a new ministry and a new religion claiming to be Catholic but which is not. That is why they do all these things and do not tell you people. And this is very important for all those ensnared in the Vatican II “catholic” church to know.

Pope Leo XII, Ubi primum (#14), May 5, 1824:  “it is impossible for the most true God, who is Truth itself, the best, the wisest Provider, and the Rewarder of good men, to approve all sects who profess false teachings which are often inconsistent with one another and contradictory, to confer eternal rewards on their members…,  By divine faith we hold one Lord, one faith, one baptism….This is why we profess that there is no salvation outside the church” not the Vatican II Church.

Pastor AIO:
I suspect it is that they have been attacked so often by pentecostals that they feel the need to succour each other and bolster themselves up.

Right from time, the Catholic Church has always been attacked by her enemies so it’s not a new thing. The only thing disturbing to some of us is the fact that there are innocent souls out there who truly love this catholic faith yet they are being led astray to perdition by the great apostasy currently going on. Our only consolation is that God alone, who knows how to bring the truth to all men of good will certainly enlighten them. I still urge that people log onto this site www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com

efeski:
hi guys,  try layin hands on the book "In God's name" by David Yallop, so i comment my reserve on the atrocities the catholic church have perpetrated on earth.

The only thing that interests me in that book “In God’s name” is the murder of John Paul I by the 2-P masons which the Vatican claimed he died of a massive heart attack around 11 pm on September 28, 1978. He served only for 33 days. Again, you can see how important the number 33 is to the freemasons. (I have already talked much on freemasonry as a reply to the title “Freemason evil in Nigeria?” still on this religious aspect of nairaland. It’s quite lengthy but you can save it on a flash and read at your own timing). It’s just so sad that one kapten is just misleading people as regards that topic but thank God some still do not believe him
Finally, it was also in the plan of the masons when they infiltrate the Catholic Church to to label the ‘Church of the past’ as being oppressive, authoritarian, full of prejudices, arrogant in claiming to be the sole possessor of truth, and responsible for the divisions of religious bodies throughout the centuries. So disregard the so called “atrocities of the pope”. That’s why some one like John Paul II can go as far as apologizing overnothing and painting the church in a bad image. For the Vatican II religion, the injustice done to man has become more important than that done to God.

how can someone read all this?

[/quote]Please don’t feel bad about this JJYOU. I’m really sorry it’s quite long but I just had to do it this way because I truly wanted the general public to see this evil society the way it actually is. I advise that one could save it on his flash drive so he could read it at his own timing since it truly exposes them.


[quote author=KAPTEN link=topic=120417.msg3626449#msg3626449 date=1237656678]I wont even bother reading your next post cos I know it will be filled with inconsistencies designed to mislead the reading public.If this is the kind of research and "facts" you would post I would urge everyone to ignore his posts.

Fremason Kapten,Your reply shows how wounded and bitter you are. Of course I expect this because you do know now that there are some out there who knows the true nature of this diabolical society of which you, even though claims to be a member is not fully enlightened about its true nature just like what Theodore Hertzel, the founder of Zionism in 1897 in Switzerland said: “Masonic lodges are established all over the world to help us achieve our independence. Those pigs, the non-jewish masons, will never understand the final objects of masonry.” Hence, they are just useful idiots. Having said that, I don’t have time to argue with you. For my concern is on those innocent souls out there who might be easily deceived by the likes of you people as you are currently doing now. I only weep for  people who will fall for you since Lucifer has taken possession of all of you. i.e. freemasons

I still plead with those in the Vatican II “Catholic” church and others to log onto www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com and see the true catholic faith and know where to stand since the communist and masons have taken over it. There also, you’ll get to understand what Christ means when He said “the gates of hell will not prevail against it” i.e. the church.

I read with utmost dismay the publication in Newswatch magazine of November 24, 2008 on the interview granted Mr. Chukka Ifejika and also the write up on Freemasons. I knew the picture with which he painted this Society was wrong and since then, I had been working on it till now of which I have decided to let the general public through this medium actually see the true face of Freemasonry and if I may still say, just the way it is and also the Catholic church’s position on it since Mr. Ifejika also claimed to be a Catholic though in my own view a member of the Vatican II catholic church since they, the masons and communist have taken over that one. I will prove that in my next write up with newswatch but still urge all to visit this site - www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com and see that there is a great distinction between the true Catholic Church and the Vatican II church claiming to be Catholic and judge for themselves.
He explained that “Freemasonry is a system of morality defined and explained through allegories by both words and signs hence it’s neither a religion nor a secret society and has nothing to do with the Devil because it does not admit agnostic or those who do not believe in God and that they tend to make a bad man a good man and a good man a better man” while claiming at the same time to be cathedral builders.
The fact is that Freemasonry has another purpose which is completely unknown to much of the general public and many of the masons.
Manly P. Hall, a 33rd degree mason in his book, “The Lost Key of The Freemasonry” said “Freemasonry is a fraternity within a fraternity, an outer organization concealing an inner brotherhood of the elect.” (NOTE: The Lost Key of Freemasonry by Manly P Hall is highly recommended in the leading list of what to buy for Masonic relatives)
It is important for the general public to know that in Freemasonry, deception is practiced in all ways particularly for the initiates of the first three degrees which are Apprentice, Fellow Craft and Master Mason. All these are of the blue lodge. The blue lodges are those in which the first 3 degrees are conferred in freemasonry. Here, the initiate is told that nothing he is about to do is going to conflict with his religious belief. He is led phase by phase with a series of blood oat and never to reveal the secrets of freemasonry. And we all know that blood oats are used for diabolical and secret organizations.
In the 1st degree, “Apprentice” he swears with his hands on the bible. “I (name) in the presence of Almighty God, most solemnly promise and swear that I will always hail, ever conceal and never reveal any of the arts, parts of points of the hidden mysteries of Freemasonry……binding myself under the penalty than that of having my throat cut across, my tongue torn out, and my body buried in the rough sands of the sea (Duncan’s Ritual of Freemasonry pgs 34-35)
In the 2nd degree, “Fellow Craft”, he swears on the bible, in the presence of Almighty God, “Under the penalty than of having my breast open… and my heart and lungs thrown over my left shoulder…. So help me God”.
In the 3rd degree of “Master Mason”, he swears “under the penalty than that of having my body severed in two, my bowels taken from thence and burn to ashes… so help me God.
The first three degrees ware blue aprons which is the official color of Freemasonry and the only proper form to address the master of the lodge is “worshipful master”. Here, the initiates are purposely deceived in believing they know everything, while they don’t know anything about the true masonry.
In the words of Albert Pike in his book “Morals and Dogma” “The first three degrees are but the outer court of the temple. Part of the symbols are displaced there to the initiate but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them, but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them…, it is well enough for the mass of those called masons to imagine that all is contained in the blue degrees” (Morals and Dogma Pg 819). NOTE: Albert Pike is probably the most famous freemasons of all times. He was a mason who simultaneously accepted three different positions. He was the head of Washington DC Masonry; He was the head of American Masonry and was also the head of World Masonry. Albert Pike wrote the book Morals and Dogma published in 1871 and it is used in all Scottish rite initiations to explain the crafts philosophy. It has been called the most important book of freemasonry and also the bible of freemasonry. It is given to every 4th degree mason and it is also recommended in every issue of the Scottish rite journal. They are encouraged each month to read the book.
Now when a mason completes his first three degree, he becomes a Master Mason in the blue lodge. If he wishes, he then stops freemasonry or can continue with the York rite or Scottish rite. The York rite has an additional ten degrees. If he completes those extra ten degrees, he can become and call himself a Knights Templer Mason.
If he goes up with the Scottish rite, there is usually another 33 degrees and basically once he completes the blue degrees, he can buy the 4th to the 32nd degrees of the Scottish rite if he has enough money. However, in many of the individual degrees,4th, 5th, 6th, 7th etc, the whole initiation and the things that are said there are not known and fully undergone by all the masons even those in the 32nd degrees because it obviously takes a lot of time. But many masons do know the things that are said in the first three degrees of which we have already spoken of and the ones we’ll do now. The book “Duncan’s Ritual of Freemasonry” gives a word for word transcript of the first three degrees of the Masonic lodge of the blue lodge.
In the 1st degree, the initiate is asked the following questions: What do you desire? In the 1st degree, he answers “light”. In the 2nd degree, he answers “more light” and in the 3rd degree, he answers “further light”.
Albert Pike of whom we’ve already spoken of wrote in his book Morals and Dogma that “the mason is familiar with the doctrine that the Supreme Being is a centre of light.” Now what is this light that the mason is talking about? The answer can be found on page 321 of Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike which says “Lucifer the light bearer, Lucifer the son of the morning. Is it He who bears the light? Doubt it not!” and on page 324 of the same Morals and Dogma, he repeats the following: “A Devil, the fallen Lucifer or light bearer”. He identifies Lucifer as being the Devil and of course St. Paul says in Holy Scripture “And no wonder: for Satan himself transformeth himself into an Angel of Light”. (2 Corinthians 11:14) The New Age also believes the same thing as the masons.
David Spangler, a leading New Ager wrote: “The light comes from Lucifer, he is the light bearer”. Many people and even masons themselves say Freemasonry is not a religion. It is without any doubt a religion – a naturalistic religion…. And still more, masonry teaches in the higher degrees that “it alone is the only one true religion of all mankind”, aiming to unite all religions of the world and will eventually unit the world in brotherhood, the same aim with that of the New Age movement…… “a new world order”.
Albert Pike on page 213 of his book Morals and Dogma wrote “Every Masonic lodge is a temple of Religion, and its teachings are instructions in Religion.” On July 14, 1889, Albert Pike issued Formal written instructions to the 23 supreme councils of the world: “To you Sovereign Grand Inspector Generals, we say this that you may repeat it to the brethren of 32nd, 31st and 30th degree. The Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian Doctrine. Yes, Lucifer is God, and the true and pure religion is the belief in Lucifer.
To further show that majority of the leaders of freemasonry believe that Lucifer is the light bearer, Manly P. Hull in his book “The Lost Keys Of Freemasonry” on page 48 said: “when a mason learns the key is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his craft, the seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands”.
Now, we can see that freemasons are not only worshipers of Lucifer but also antichrist to a certain extent that if a worshipful master of the Masonic lodge allows prayers to be made in Jesus’ name, his lodge can be closed and its charter revoked by the grand lodge of his state. The deception for the 1st three degrees is such that though they swear in the presence of almighty God while taking their oat during the initiation, but then the “God” of the first three degree is a “deistic” in the sense that he is a creator but cannot be known……. And this is why Albert Pike claims on Page 516 of Morals and Dogmas that “all specific conceptions of God are idolatrous except masonry’s”. For the 1st three degrees, the only approaching “acting God” is the worshipful master. Hence, a mason may believe in only one God, but freemasonry welcomes all masons Gods in the same Pantheon, as far as allegiance in the lodge is to the worshipful master, and any other God cannot even be mentioned just as we have proved earlier and above in their own statements.
Beloved reader, it is also worthy to know that freemasonry does have a definite link with witch craft.
An interview was carried out at different times and places with former masons and those who had involved themselves in witchcraft, all in America and Canada. Here is an interesting parallel on what they said when interviewed.
In blue lodge masonry, you have to be recommended by another mason. In witchcraft, you have to be screened and recommended by someone currently in witchcraft.
In blue lodge masonry, you are blindfolded and bound by a rope. In witchcraft, you are blindfolded, bound by a rope and lead to the edge of the magic circle.
In blue lodge masonry, a sharp object is put to your left breast; you take a blood oat not to reveal any of the secrets of the lodge. In witchcraft, a sword is put to your left breast and you take a blood oat not to reveal the secrets of witchcraft.
In blue lodge masonry, during the ritual, the blindfold is taken off the candidate and they tell you that you were in darkness and you are coming into light. In witchcraft, during the ritual, the candidate is challenged by someone at the edge of the magic circle who says: “who goes there?” And the answer is “one from the world of darkness”.
In blue lodge masonry, the masons end their prayers with “so mote it be” In witchcraft, they end their prayers with “so mote it be”.
The masons of the 1st three degrees participate in rituals with occult significance, whose symbolism is undisclosed to them. Masonry does links cults and religions from all ages of which spiritism and Satanism are not left out. Albert Pike is a highly regarded mason and Satanist. Hermes, the founder of Alchemy, Waite, another leading mason all practiced occultism and Satanism. Many of the rites of the craft are taking from the occult but hiding its significance to the first three degrees.
We’ll now look at the York rite of freemasonry. In the York rite, they claim that only Christians can join the York rite. We’ll take a look particularly at the holy Royal arch degree of the York rite.
According to another famous mason of the York rite, in the opening and closing of every chapter of a meeting, the high priest ask another Royal arch mason the question: “Are you a Royal Arch Mason?” and the other mason responds “I AM THAT I AM”. We know for sure that this refers to the time when Moses encountered God and God identified Himself as I AM THAT I AM and God says this is my name forever because in St. Johns Gospel too, he says I AM when he was answering the Jews regarding the question they asked him. (John 8:58)
In masonry, they say that the name of God has been lost and at a later degree of the royal arch degree, the 7th degree, they say that name that was lost is now found. The men form an arch with their arms and now say “God’s name is Jahbulah” which is the joining of Jehovah with the pagan gods Bel and Osias and they call it the grand magnificent word.
Now, back to the Scottish rite and we’ll start with the 17th degree. In this 17th degree, having completed the initiation after reviewing the password Jahbulah, and the sacred word “Abadon”, the senior one does conduct the candidate to an elevated canopy to the right position of the others. What’s fascinating about this 17th degree is the sacred word of the ritual “Abadon”. If we look at the scriptures in Rev 9:11, we see “A king, the angel of the bottomless pit whose name in Hebrew is Abadon”. So we can clearly see here that he is invoking a demon because the sacred word for the ritual of the 17th degree is a demon.
The 18th degree called the Rose Croix is anti-Christian. Here, the candidate has to pass a cross without Christ through Calvary, Ascension, and Hell, and the INRI of the cross means “the whole nature renewed by fire”.
The 19th is called the degree of Grand Pontiff. Here, another mason during this ritual anoints the candidates head with oil and says: “Be though a priest forever after the order of Melchisedech”
In the 20th degree, they say “No man has the right to dictate to another in matters of faith or belief; no one can say that he has possession of the truth”. This is totally anti-catholic.
In the 28th degree, they have a symbol as a serpent biting its tail and there is a picture within this serpent. This picture also has a reflection in water. Now, when one looks at the picture within the serpent and that which reflects in the water, you see that what appears to be a friendly person within the serpent is actually a demon when turned upside down to see that which is reflected in the water. And that is because Albert Pike says: “That which is above is as that which is below”.
In the 30th degree called the Knight of Kadosh which is the most anti – catholic, vengeance is actually the motive of this degree. The ritual goes like this: The grand master rises and says “Imitate me” and then stabs a skull crowned with a tiara (the popes cap) representing Pope Clement V, and then says “Down with imposture: Down with crime.” Later he stabs a skull cemented with a crown representing king Phillip of France and then says “Down with tyranny! Down with crime.” The master and the candidate then kneels before a skull adorned with a royal riff representing another great personality and then says “Everlasting glory to the immemorial martyr of virtue”. The initiates repeat both of these demonstrating their hatred for the Catholic Church and any form of monarchy. That’s precisely why the monarchy was destroyed in Europe.
For those who complete the 32nd degree, they normally have written on the top of their certificate “Ordo Abchao” meaning order of chaos.
The 33rd degrees also have this written on their jewel. For one to become a 33rd degree mason, he has to be chosen. One cannot seek to be a 33rd degree mason even if he is in the 32nd degree except he is chosen. Here the initiation is done by a former 33rd degree mason and they say the same thing found on pages 363 – 364 of the book “Occult theocracy”: “Neither law, property nor religion can be imposed on man as they annihilate him by depriving him of his most precious right. They are assassins on whom we have sworn to wreak vengeance. They are enemies against whom we have declared war to the dearth. Of these three enemies, it is on Religion that we must concentrate our most deadly attacks. Once Religion is dead, law and property will fall to our mercy. And we shall be able to regenerate society by founding on the corpses of the assassins of man, Masonic religion, Masonic law and Masonic property”.
For them, the 3 murderers of mankind are law, property and religion. The house of the temple in Washington DC which is where most of the freemasons get their 33rd degree has serpents designed all over the inside.
We now talk about the pentagon. The pentagon is a symbol found on the satanic bible. It is also a very important symbol in freemasonry. The Eastern Star, a freemasonry for women have it as their chief emblem. But what most people are unaware is that a pentagon is different from a star. The freemasons themselves tell us the difference. According to the book “History of Freemasonry and Concordant Orde” of 1891 written by a series of 32nd and 33rd degree masons, on page 49 it says “this star represents good when represented with one point upward. But when turned with one point down, it represents evil, all that is opposed to the good, pure and virtuous.” So the star with one point down is evil and the masons have it on top of their bible. The pentagon is also a major symbol in Satanism. The Eastern Star also has it as their chief emblem. The clothing line of the new word order does have a pentagon with the star pointing downward on their clothes. On their adverts, you sometimes see them wearing black and having the pentagon as a label on it with the writings in white color and the background red in color. This is because the royal arch masons have their colors as red, black and white. Also, the red, black and white are colors of the Nazis.
Besides the “Order of the Eastern Star” which is a Masonic sect for the females, we also have the “Order of Demolay” and the “Order of Builders” which are for the boys. For the girls, the “Order of the Jobs Daughters” and the “Order of Rainbow” plus the Shriners.
The Shriners are a special group of freemasons made up of 32nd and 33rd Degree Scottish rite masons and 13th degree or Knights Templar York Rite Masons. The Shriners claim to be a charitable organization yet the fact proves that only 1/3rd of the money raised by the Shriners goes out to charity. The Shriners also wear red hats called Fezes. There is an interesting story about the Fez because the Fezes comes from a place in Morocco called Fez. Now in the year 800AD, 50,000 Catholics were slaughtered by Moslems in Fez, Morocco. Now they say the blood ran so thick, that the Moslems dipped their hats in the blood, and their hats turned red. Now the Fez is a 1,200 year sign of the Moslems “victory” over Christians. It was first commercially sold in Morocco. The Shriners tells us why they wear the Fezes in a book in 1977 put up by the Subosh shrine temple. They say this in the book: “The Fez has been handed down through the ages as one of the most significant headdresses. The Fez derives its name from the place where it was first manufactured commercially. The Holy city of Fez, in Morocco” also during the initiation ceremony in the Shriners they say “seal their solemn oath in the name of Allah, the God of our fathers.” And later on in the rite, they quote “Islam is the one true faith” and you wonder why one who is a catholic can do this. They also have on their calendar, the order of “Quetzalcoatl”. This is a stone serpent which our Lady of Guadalupe i.e. the Virgin Mary came and crushed and converted about 8 million to the catholic faith by means of those apparitions.
Some Pontiffs have condemned freemasonry. E.g. Pope Leo XIII “Let no man think that he may for any reason whatsoever, join the Masonic sect, if he values his catholic name and his eternal salvation” Pope Leo XIII, Dall’Alto (# 2), Oct. 15, 1890: “It is needless now to put the Masonic sects upon their trial. They are already judged; their ends, their means, their doctrines, and their action, are all known with indisputable certainty. Possessed by the spirit of Satan, whose instrument they are, they burn like him with a deadly and implacable hatred of Jesus Christ and of His work; and they endeavor by every means to overthrow and fetter it.” Under the old Code of Canon Law, any one who joins the Masons was automatically excommunicated. There are more than 200 documents issued by the Vatican that have condemned freemasonry. So even if they mention names of Catholic saints as patrons, people should not be deceived in thinking as though the Church does approve of masonry.
We have some Masonic anti – catholic speech. Although many masons says they are not anti- catholic although many of them do not know this but the high ranking ones are well familiar with this. Here are some of them. The masons used to call their official magazine the New Age magazine but when the New Age got a lot of bad publicity, they changed it to the Scottish rite journal because of the negative things said about the New Age magazine. In this magazine, it says “Catholism, not communism or socialism is masonry’s immediate worry.”
The French Grand Orient Masonic Lodge gave utterances to the following professions of faith in 1885:”We masons must aim for the complete destruction of Catholism” A chief in the Masonic Alta Vendita lodge proclaimed: “Let us conspire only against Rome”. In the stone inscription of the Masonic Grand Orient and Supreme Council of France, it says: “The fight taking place between Catholism and freemasonry is a fight to the very death, ceaseless and merciless.”
So most people say if you want to destroy the church, if you believe it is the true church of Jesus Christ, why not infiltrate it. And truly, they have infiltrated it. I will show this beyond reasonable doubt in my next write up. But before then, what we are to know is that the Catholic Church has taught through St. Athanasius that even if there is one true priest and few Catholics faithful to tradition, they are the ones who are the true church of Christ.
The masons also use a Masonic time table system “AL” in their calendar. They don’t use “AD.” AL means Annual Lucist meaning in the year of light or in the year of Lucifer. So 4000 BC would be 0AL and 2000AD would be 6000AL or 6000 years when Lucifer was cast from Heaven.
The masons also strongly believe in symbology and numerology and have a fascination with the number 33. Perhaps this is because they have major events happening on the 33rd degree latitude on the map. For example, where the first nuclear bomb was drop for testing in Mexico. The 33rd degree latitude also passes over both Hiroshima and Nagasaki Japan. These sites were places where the first two atomic bombs were dropped at the end of the 2nd world war. It is a known fact of history that the bomb didn’t have to be dropped because Japan was trying to surrender but they were still dropped. And these two cities where were the largest population of Catholic were concentrated. The man who dropped the bomb on this Catholic was a 33rd degree mason, Harry Truman. Truman was a 32nd degree mason when he dropped the bomb. On October 1945, he became a 33rd degree mason. He said: “Although I hold the highest civil honor in the world, I have always regarded my rank and title as a post Grand Master of the masons as the greatest honor that has ever come to me.” Also J. F Kennedy was assassinated on the 33rd degree latitude in November 22, 1963 in Texas. It will be amazing to know that the park where J F Kennedy was short was where the 1st Masonic lodge was built in Texas.
Modern Freemasonry was given its name by Joseph Levy on August 25, 1716 and approved on June 24, 1717 by the 1st official freemasonic lodge. They choose the word “Masonry” because it would act as a thick veil over the secret origin of their foundation. But what we know is that it came almost in 13000 from the Order of The Knights Templar movement though it actually came in the year 43 AD from a group actually called the Mysterious Force.
In the book “Origin of Freemasonry,” it says “The Mysterious Force was established in 43 AD. It started when a counselor to King Herod came to him and complained that the followers of Jesus had a mysterious force. He said they should establish their own mysterious force to combat this Christian mysterious force. The purpose behind this group would be to attack the teachings of Jesus and in order to preserve Judaism. (Mind you, Judaism is a religion that does not accept our Lord Jesus Christ. They are still waiting for the coming of the messiah.) King Herod said, “we will use the hammer, because it was used to nail Jesus’ hands and feet. Every session will be opened by striking the hammer 3 times.”(and you know judges have hammer to bring order in the court) king Herod said “we will make degrees. These will be thirty-three, symbolizing the age of the imposter”
In November 43AD, the 1st official session was held in the 1st temple of Jerusalem, which was a basement in the palace of King Herod. The meeting of the mysterious force was always held in the temple. In 1717, modern freemasonry changed the name of temple to the name lodge.
Now to prove that freemasonry is of a Jewish origin, we hear the following quote. Rabbi Isaac Weiss wrote in 1855 “masonry is a Jewish institution, whose history, degrees, assignments, signs and explanations are of Jewish nature from beginning to end”.
The Jewish historian, Bernard Lazare wrote “it is evident that there were only Jews and Cabalistic Jews in masonry’s origin” and finally, Theodore Hertzel, the founder of Zionism in 1897 in Switzerland: “Masonic lodges are established all over the world to help us achieve our independence. Those pigs, the non-jewish masons, will never understand the final objects of masonry.” To find out what the Jewish people believe in, we have to go to what they regard as their authority in religion.
The Jewish Encyclopedia vol 12: “For the majority of Jews, the Talmud is still the supreme authority in Religion.” So the Talmud is the written word i.e. oral tradition of the pharasis. The universal Jewish encyclopedia page 637: “the ultimate authority for orthodoxy is the Babylonian Talmud.” The Jews have embraced the Talmud for 20 centuries. Now, some of the things in the Talmud are: - (just to mention a few)
In the Talmud all the Christian churches are called the house of evil. It is permitted for Christians to be defrauded, to be deceived, all Christians including the best of them should be killed. These are just some of them and it’s unbelievable what they put in there in that book. Now the Jewish encyclopedia gives a person a definite view of perhaps 100s of revealing statements and subjects giving accurate summaries of what the Talmud actually teaches. Page 619 Jewish encyclopedia says Gentiles are not called men but barbarians. Page 172 says that Christ is in hell punished with boiling hot excrement. Also there is no criticism of communism. Infact they say it is an instrument in making socialism work out. Also, Jewish international bankers founded the Russian revolution. In Russia, before the 1980’s, 15 years of hard labour was considered as a light punishment for a gentile caught trying to escape. The communist movement and ideology played an important part in the Jewish life particularly in the 1920’s, 1980’s and during and after the world war II. In Israel, under its anti missionary Law 5738 passed on December 25, 1977 “if a Christian is caught giving a new testament to an Israeli, he may face a jail term of up to 5 years”. Some statements from their recent publications are: March 15, 1923, issue of Jewish world stated “fundamentally, Judaism is anti – Christian.” We read in the New York Jewish paper Freiheit January 10, 1937 “according to the Jewish religion, the Pope is the enemy of the Jewish people, by the very that he is the head of the Catholic Church. The jewish religion is opposed to Christianity and to the catholic church in particular.” This is just to show that there is a great link between Freemasonry, Judaism and Communism all going against the Catholic Church.
Finally, going back to where all these freemasonry is rooted, it is rooted in the Jewish Kabalah. The kabalah is the Hebrew word for “received tradition.” The Jewish Kabalah is a midevil Jewish book of occult philosophy and magic based on mystical interpretations of the Old Testament. The kabalah is important with magicians, sorcerers, witches, Satanists as well as Masonic philosophers. The book Morals and Dogma have 65 pages dealing with the Kabalah. Page 741 of Morals and Dogma says “Masonry is a search for light. That light search leads directly back to the kabalah.” Page 770 also has a picture of the kabalah. It also says “All Masonic organization’s secrets and symbols are borrowed from the kabalah.” We can clearly see that masonry is all rooted in the Jewish Kabalah.
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COMMUNIST AND FREEMASONRY VS. CATHOLISM

The long age battle between freemasonry and the Catholic Church might be coming to an end. So some people might think and for sure, there must be a winner and a looser. It actually depends on that which would stand the test of time. This little write up would actually bring to limelight what has been going on so we could judge for ourselves.
Now, according to Manly P. Hall, a 33rd degree mason in his book, “The Lost Key of The Freemasonry” he defined freemasonry as “a fraternity within a fraternity, an outer organization concealing an inner brotherhood of the elect.” It is a secret society though given its modern name by Joseph Levy on August 25, 1716 and approved on June 24, 1717 by the 1st official freemasonic lodge. They choose the word “Masonry” because it would act as a thick veil over the secret origin of their foundation. But what we do know is that it came almost in 13000 from the Order of the Knights Templar movement though it actually started in the year 43 AD from a group actually called the “Mysterious Force”. In November 43AD, the 1st official session was held in the 1st temple of Jerusalem, which was a basement in the palace of King Herod. Since then, there has been this long age battle between the Catholic Church and masonry.
In the stone inscription of the Masonic Grand Orient and Supreme Council of France, it says: “The fight taking place between Catholism and freemasonry is a fight to the very death, ceaseless and merciless.” In 1885, the French Grand Orient Masonic Lodge gave utterances to the following professions of faith: “We masons must aim for the complete destruction of catholism”. But has this destruction actually taken place? We’ll find out soon.
It’s a well known fact that while the church was warning her members against the evils of this society, they, the Communists and Freemasons were also making organized efforts to infiltrate and subdue her. They sent large numbers of their own men into the priesthood hoping to weaken and attack her by moving these men to high positions.
Mrs. Bella Dodd spent most of her life in the Communist Party of America and was Attorney General designate had the Party won the White House. After her defection, she revealed that one of her jobs as a Communist agent was to encourage young radicals (not always card-carrying Communists) to enter Catholic seminaries. She said that before she had left the Party in the U.S. she had encouraged almost 1,000 young radicals to infiltrate the seminaries and religious orders; she was only one Communist.
Brother Joseph Natale, the founder of Most Holy Family Monastery, was present at one of Bella Dodd’s lectures in the early 1950’s. He stated: “I listened to that woman for four hours and she had my hair standing on end. Everything she said has been fulfilled to the letter. You would think she was the world’s greatest prophet, but she was no prophet. She was merely exposing the step-by-step battle plan of Communist subversion of the Catholic Church. She explained that of all the world’s religions, the Catholic Church was the only one feared by the Communists, for it was its only effective opponent.”
Bella Dodd converted to Catholicism at the end of her life. Speaking as an ex-Communist, she said: “In the 1930’s, we put eleven hundred men into the priesthood in order to destroy the Church from within.” The idea was for these men to be ordained, and then climb the ladder of influence and authority as monsignors and bishops. Back then, she said: “Right now they are in the highest places in the Church. They are working to bring about change in order that the Catholic Church would not be effective against Communism.” She also said that these changes would be so drastic that “you will not recognize the Catholic Church.” (This was 10 to 12 years before Vatican II.)
Brother Joseph went on relating what Bella Dodd had said: “The whole idea was to destroy, not the institution of the Church, but rather the Faith of the people, and even use the institution of the Church, if possible, to destroy the Faith through the promotion of a pseudo-religion: something that resembled Catholicism but was not the real thing. Once the Faith was destroyed, she explained that there would be a guilt complex introduced into the Church… to label the ‘Church of the past’ as being oppressive, authoritarian, full of prejudices, arrogant in claiming to be the sole possessor of truth, and responsible for the divisions of religious bodies throughout the centuries. This would be necessary in order to shame Church leaders into an ‘openness to the world,’ and to a more flexible attitude toward all religions and philosophies. The Communists would then exploit this openness in order to undermine the Church.” Freemasons too made similar attempts to infiltrate the Catholic Church and elevate their own to the highest levels. The Luciferian secret society, the Carbonari, known as the Alta Vendita, wrote a set of Permanent Instructions, or Code of Rules, which appeared in Italy in 1818. It stated:
“…It becomes the duty of the secret societies to make the first advance to the Church, and to the pope, with the object of conquering both. The work for which we gird ourselves is not the work of a day, nor of a month, nor a year. It may last for many years, perhaps a century… What we must ask for, what we should look for and wait for, as the Jews wait for the Messiah, is a pope according to our wants. We require a pope for ourselves, if such a pope were possible. With such a one we shall march more securely to the storming of the Church, than with all the little books of our French and English brothers.”
The same Freemasonic document made this striking prediction: “In a hundred years time… bishops and priests will think they are marching behind the banner of the keys of Peter, when in fact they will be following our flag… The reforms will have to be brought about in the name of obedience.”
These organizations and the individuals who belong to them are agents which the Devil uses to attack the true Church of Christ. Ephesians 6:12- “For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and powers, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in high places.”
On April 3, 1844, a leader of the AltaVendita named Nubius wrote a letter to another highly placed mason. The letter spoke again about the plan to infiltrate the Catholic Church, and the attempt to insert a masonic “pope,” who would promote the religion of Freemasonry. “Now then, in order to ensure a pope in the required proportions, we must first of all prepare a generation worthy of the kingdom of which we dream… Let the clergy move forward under your banner (the masonic banner) always believing they are advancing under the banner of the apostolic keys. Cast your net like Simon Bar Jonas; spread it to the bottom of sacristies, seminaries, and convents … You will have finished a revolution dressed in the pope’s triple crown and cape, carrying the cross and the flag, a revolution that will need only a small stimulus to set fire to the four corners of the earth.”
Freemason Eliph Levi said in 1862: “A day will come when the pope… will declare that all the excommunications are lifted and all the anathemas are retracted, when all the Christians will be united within the Church, when the Jews and Moslems will be blessed and called back to her . . . she will permit all sects to approach her by degrees and will embrace all mankind in the communion of her love and prayers. Then, Protestants will no longer exist. Against what will they be able to protest? The sovereign pontiff will then be truly king of the religious world, and he will do whatever he wishes with all the nations of the earth.”
An apostate priest and former canon-lawyer, named Fr. Roca (1830-1893), after being excommunicated said: “The papacy will fall; it will die under the hallowed knife which the fathers of the last council will forge.” Roca also said: “You must have a new dogma, a new religion, a new ministry, and new rituals that very closely resemble those of the surrendered Church. The divine cult directed by the liturgy, ceremonial, ritual and regulations of the Roman Catholic Church will shortly undergo transformation at an ecumenical Council.”
It is without any doubt that all their plans have actually come to pass and are being fulfilled everyday. How else can one explain this when all the post Vatican II hierarchy keeps on painting the church of the past in a bad image and apologizing over nothing. Worst of all these is that almost all doctrines, dogmas and morals which the true popes have unanimously taught which ought not to be changed under pain of anathema or incurring the wrath of almighty God and the blessed Apostles, Peter and Paul have all been tampered with by the Vatican II “popes.” Its just too sad that people keep on following them and defending them not knowing that they will not be excused whether they are aware of it or not. But what we do know is that the Church has taught through St. Athanasius that even if there is one true priest and few Catholics faithful to tradition, they are the ones who are the true church of Jesus Christ. Hence the post Vatican II (1962 – 1965) churches are the ones that have been overthrown by communist and freemasons and not the Catholic Church which is still in existence but reduced to a handful. We advice all to visit this website: www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com and see the truths of the catholic church for themselves and should they get interested in having any of their audios, videos and booklets, they can contact us on salvesancta@yahoo.com and we’ll send it to them free of charge since true charity demands that we let people be aware of what is actually going on. God bless and help you as you do this. Amen.

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