The topic is a big topic better to let it slide for the sanity of the thread. We have bad leaders & we have foreign interest as well. You can't separate one from the other.
We think we have a choice but it's all an illusion.
CapitalBank: Have you heard of the word "Neocolonialism"? See the attached image.
Let me tell you why Nigeria has been on a downward trajectory since 2015.
China's growing influence, the economic growth we were experiencing, was part of the reason.
You may not be aware, but it was easy for people who had never met themselves to come on Nairaland in 2012 and birth a business idea, and within 3 months, they were swimming in millions. Ymodulus used to be the king of this, and there were many other guys like that. We used to have a mini importation thread that changed LIVES, and this was what birthed the e-commerce market in Nigeria.
People were making serious money. The West were not happy about this because China was making this growing wealth possible. Then China proposed to build a road called "ONE BELT ROAD".
You see, the Chinese have a proverb that says, "If you want to create wealth, build roads," and they play by this rule.
Upon hearing that China, after growing influence in Africa's infrastructure and wealth development, is about to build a road from China to Africa, America and its allies said over their dead body would they allow that.
If Africans become wealthy and financially comfortable, who will take care of the old white woman and man in the UK and Canada, who will do the menial jobs that their citizens don't want to do?
So in order to slow down and reverse the economic growth, there has to be a regime change to accomplish this agenda and there are always those who look like you in skin colour who are willing to do the dirty job. The white man will NEVER use his face but will use yours or those that look like you. This is why you are finding it hard to believe that they influence the current state of things in Nigeria and Africa.
So who did they use in the current state of Nigeria? Tinubu, Buhari, and their likes were a perfect fit for the mission. Everything they have done since 2015 is not an error but well intentional orchestration to reverse EVERY economic indices because that is the instruction given to them. What they are doing is not mistake, they are not clueless like some of you carelessly attribute the evil they do. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND THEY WORKING (NOT FOR YOU) TO ACHIEVE THEIR GOAL... WHICH IS TO DESTROY NIGERIA.
For instance, Tinubu said he will widen the tax bracket, some people thought it was a Freudian slip. He said he will continue from where Buhari stopped and people thought it was just a blunder... but what he meant EVERY WORD and the reality before you is a prove.
The result of all these is Nigerians running out to Nigeria to work in these countries that are behind the evil and thereby favouring their economic supremacy.
Below is a video of Goodluck Jonathan explaining what happened:
For instance, Gaddafi was killed for the same reason because he wanted to unite Africa and ditch the dollar. One of those who was present, a white man (I know if a black man told you this, you wouldn't believe as you have demonstrated in your post) has this to say below:
The most recent attempt to repeat what they did to Gaddafi was the military leader in Burkina Faso, just because he kicked France out. They wanted to take him out but black race all over the world started drumming support for the Burkina Faso leader. Putin recently invited him to Russia and he had to send a plane to pick him up because he knows they will kill the Burkina Faso leader.
Everytime there is a leader that is trying to make his country grow, the West eliminates him. The cameroonian president has been sit for more than 50 years but the West has no problem with him. That one even governs his country from France but Ibrahim Traore is their headache because he kicked France out.
On the surface, it looks like nothing but a lot is really happening.
How is neocolonialism responsible for bad roads in Nigeria? How is it responsible for lack of proper education? How is it responsible for police officers standing on the raid and perpetuating daylight corruption and robbery? How is it responsible for a governor stealing the state's resources and feeding himself?
I really want to know how exactly neocolonialism is responsible for that. And the fact that you are buying into the story that Burkina Faso has a great president is shocking. Leadership is not by aura or trying to sell yourself to another country, Russia, in this case. Simply opposing the west is not development or great leadership in and of itself.
Why didn't neocolonialism hold Singapore (Colonised by the British and Malaysia), South Korea (after years of tussle the Japan and North Korea), China (after been colonised in the beginning of the last century by Japan), Saudi Arabia (after the early days of the Aramco), Argentina (even as bad they currently are. After been colonised by Spain).
Every country wants to control every country. It is an expanded version of individual identity. Every human wants to manipulate every other human by been polite or ruthless. The goal is self preservation. Your lack of decency and growth as a human being is not because of the selfishness of other people. Same as countries. Neocolonialism is not an excuse for our lack of growth.
Learner47: Your assertion is correct. Like very correct. But when you go down the rabbit hole!
You will be amazed.
Even in the rabbit hole you will still find the same issues, bro.
Every country try to control and cheat other countries but it's left for the leaders of every country to get the better deal for its people. Our leaders do not care about us enough to get us better deals.
In the modern era, countries like South Korea, Singapore, UAE, Qatar, RSA and even China, who came from imperialism as us, have shown that it's basically the problem of leadership.
CapitalBank: I am glad someone knows what is at play regarding why Nigeria and Africa at large , is the way it is, not by accident but because of external influence.
I don't mean to be rude but I call that bullshit. Our leaders are 100 percent for the state of Nigeria.
Who is stopping us from constructing good roads? Who is responsible for equipping the police and military to provide security? Who is responsible for the poor quality of education we have around? Who steals the money responsible for equipping hospitals so people don't die of minor illnesses? Who is responsible for the state of our farming industry? Who is responsible for the primitive tribalism among Nigerian tribes?
While a boy can blame their parent for the state of being, a man of 50 (given all available resources) cannot do the same.
Nice one but for Nigeria to work quicker, we have to kill off tribal identities. If you think that's too much to ask for then we are better off apart. We can't be apart within and still expect homogeneity in action.
SmartPolician: There's a trending video of one Hausa guy who was raised in the US saying that if Nigeria genuinely wants to make progress, we have to cut off the north. These northerners keep proving him right!
Is that really the case? How many parts of Africa are they resident in and how are those areas faring?
Is Nigeria's problem a northern problem or a leadership problem? Heterogeneity blocks development at a certain point but in what way has northern Nigeria blocked the development of the country?
Have they blocked the introduction of certain bills that will ease of the rate of unemployment, education, agriculture, finance, etc? I understand that heterogeneity will make it difficult for Nigeria to work but really, how are the north responsible for all our bad leadership?
He keeps using the word 'Reform' to minimise the damage he's doing to the people. How can every stupid decision be tagged a reform? They think that by calling it a reform it will not just sound but also become progressive?
There's no reformation in Agriculture, Education, Unemployment, etc., and the old man and his propaganda team wants us to look at his poor decisions as some form of reform. Which reforms exactly? Where? You are just inflicting pain on the country and talking about some imaginary reform.
Arostar2023: Hmm... Africans and obsession with ethnicity. Too much diversity is a recipe for disaster and confusion . It's time Africans start consolidating into a strong unified force. Check out the Whites , in the USA, you can't tell apart people that have Irish, English, Scottish, Polish, etc. origins. The Hutus are fighting the Tutsis. One black man from Ogbomosho is busy fighting another black man from Anambra...all from the same country.
They will call this sort of thinking backward because they can't see the logic in it. I know someone who went to court to remove his English name from his official names because he's against anything western and their gods.
You wonder why he didn't do it for language. That's because his brain is not as consistent as he wants to appear. If English names are bad simply because they are English names, why isn't the English language bad too. Lol.
yarimo: It will be better for Arise TV to apply for registration as Political party
Lol you APC lots trying to demarket arise TV are just wasting your time. People are not stupid. You can't sway anyone to stop watching arise if that's the mandate you've been given. It's a waste of time. Media opposition must stand and your TVC can't just be the only option.
FXtrader2025: Show us where Russia Stole from Everybody Shiw us where Saudi Arabia Stole from another country!! Bunch of Western Asslickers justifying theft and exploitation! Since you said our issue in Africa is about leaders, then why obsessing about Traore? Allow him to Rule in peace then Judge him based on his leadership skills. Democracy was not founded in Africa so why force it down Africa throat why not Preach the same to Saudi and Qatar which we all know are undemocratic nations Why trying so hard to force a leadership style on Africa? Is it because the inventors are benefiting from it?
It's all about idolising false gods. From this idolatry inspiration is born and from there comes aspirations and we have more false gods. And if you care about truth you shouldn't be asking such questions.
How does Traore declaring that we will no longer tolerate exploitation make him ''anti-west''?
So being ''pro-west'' to you means opening your nation to western exploitation?
What do you mean ''Everyone stole from everybody''?
When did Nigeria steal 50 trillion dollars from Britain?
When did Africa steal 5,000 trillion dollars from Europe and America?
The ''leaders'' you moan about, do you know that they collude with imperialists?
Peter Obi, Tinubu, etc, don't you see them running to Chatham House, UK to disclose their policies to their western masters prior to elections?
Do you see Chinese or Indian leaders doing that?
See now, Tinubu and Obi have ran to the Vatican to kiss their Pope.
Do you see any Chinese or Indian or Japanese leaders there? No.
You need to understand that corrupt leaders work in cahoots with imperialists.
They don't do it all on their own.
Traore, a young man understands that fact very well while you are here playing mugu.
How are imperialists stopping your governors from constructing quality hospitals and roads? Break it down for me how these imperialists are responsible for Nigerians voting fools out of tribal sentiments and hatred? How are they responsible for a typical Nigerian throwing trash on the road after eating? How are they responsible for our lack of personal development?
Whose fault is it that your leaders collude with imperialist? You think any country in this world doesn't look out for themselves? How is it the fault of foreigners that our leaders do no protect our own interest?
Kemetian: Do you know that according to AI (ChatGPT), Britain owes Nigeria 50 Trillion Dollars for her exploition of the country over the last 300 years from slavery to the end of colonialism in 1960?
If you don't believe me, go on ChatGPT right now and ask ''How much does Britain owe Nigeria for its years of exploitation?''.
It will calculate and give you that amount.
Then ask it what the west owes Africa as a whole, and the amount?
5,000 Trillion dollars.
With calculation.
Yet you have the audacity to ask why anyone should have a problem with the west.
Many of you people just lack common sense in this country.
You can switch my position as much as you like but anyone with a thinking brain understands it clearly. Being anti-west is not a progressive policy in and of itself.
Everyone stole from everybody. It only depends on how far back you are willing to go. If you had common sense you'd have known that your leaders have become the new west.
lexdino: Someone who knows nothing and understand that they know nothing will get the chance to learn. Someone who knows nothing but confidently claims they are knowledgeable is doomed. None of those countries you mentioned above were relegated to producing raw materials and cheap labour according to the globalization order created by the West. Dont be deceived by the fact that we're operating a democracy. In reality, A lot of African presidents who seem to be democratically elected are actually no more than Warrant Chiefs whom France/Britain selected and issued "certificates of recognition" to rule their countries according to instructions dictated from Paris or London. Have you ever asked why your Presidents can be summoned to Paris or London without hesitation?
Still blaming the west. Whose fault is it at this point?
When oil was discovered in Saudi Arabia and the Arab American company (Aramco) was formed, same thing played out but the Saudi's through focused and sound leadership were able to buy rights to all of Aramco and take over 100% percent of the company.
Korea was under Japanese rule and their resources were exploited but by capitalising on the events after the second world war they were free and secondly they had to face american interference which they surmounted and created giants like Samsung, LG, Hyundai, etc. They had leadership with a plan.
I can go on and on. The problem of Africa is not that its resources were stolen (everyone's resources were stolen) but the failure of leadership in Africa. The west and the east will always fend for themselves. No country is founded with the mission of helping other countries grow. It's left for countries to extricate themselves from the fangs of other countries and that in itself is not progress as long as they end up becoming the new imperialist.
You can keep blaming everyone but until you do something about the enemy on the mirror you would be wasting your time.
Feldie: my president is a joke, that's an established fact. This Traore boy is an even bigger fraud who spend all his life doing propaganda and fake bravado while terrorists split his country into portions and claim whatever portion they want. If he would drop that awful soldier clothes, stop blabbering and do actual governing he'd be better off
Seriously! It's really sad. We've been starved of progress and love so much that we can kiss anything. To get the average African by your side simply start blaming the west and others for looting Africa while looting the country as you do so.
Our leaders, even in Nigeria here, have mastered the art of dividing the people while they eat. A president from one side of the country will covertly and overtly raise online and offline warriors from his tribe to create conflicts in the tribes while stealing from all the tribes. They will push narratives on why certain tribes are holding others down while they hold the entire country down.
Idia Amin opposed the west. Abacha did. Nguemo did. All the madmen that have ruled Africa haved used this formula. But when you look at people who started the journey with us, like Singapore, South Korea, Saudi, etc., whose resources were exploited and you notice how divergent and progressive their formula was.
Singapore, in fact, after splitting from Malaysia, didn't ditch English language because of international trade. Here, someone calls it progressive when wigs are replaced by traditional court attires. We are not a serious people.
A criminal who stole power but obsessed with blaming the west. And Africans are clapping for him. How exactly is been anti-west progressive in and of itself?
MaxInDHouse: Haaaaaaaa! So you feel what you said shouldn't be mentioned frequently because it's giving you a headache? Well if that's what you want i will delete it but remember what i told you:
Your word is stronger than you because it determines how seriously people will take you.
You are not acting like a wise person. If you are really not pretending ignorance then you are not a wise person. Am I arguing or debating anything with you? Stop the mentions! It is too much. Use your brain. Take a photo of it if you want and attach it every time instead of making me think I have a serious mention.
MaxInDHouse: OK, you want to swallow your own words shey? Ọmọ you may be an atheist but that shouldn't be a reason to slaughter your conscience, let's agree you don't believe any God exists but if you're not proud of your own statement something you typed with your own hands do you really have any worth?
Don't you have common sense? Why would you be mentioning someone everyday, week, month, etc., and more than 30 times. Can't you reason? Don't you think it is wrong?
SmartPolician: Oga, stop writing an epistle. You don't live in Burkina Faso. Only those who live there can tell you whether he's a good leader or not.
The media can be used to shape people's views about leaders. You just formed your opinion based on what you are fed in the media. I won't write more than this.
Exactly. The guy hasn't really made the country better than he met it but they are calling him an African hero. Ditching the west is not tantamount to development but that's our definition of it.
Agbegbaorogboye: How was that a foul VAR didn't call it because it wasn't a foul
The question should be how was that not a foul? He didn't go for the ball but to impede the defender. How was that not a foul? Is that allowed in football? I don't have energy for this though.