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Family / Re: What The Bible Says About A Wife's Submission To Her Husband by Sh0llypopz: 8:34am On Dec 31, 2015
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!! grin grin grin

@Royal Roy: move to Religion section.
Family / Re: My Brother Is Like A Houseboy To His Wife by Sh0llypopz: 7:50pm On Dec 26, 2015
Oyind17:
I went to my elder brother's house for a visit and I lost my peace due to what I saw there.
I didn't call him on phone before going, I knocked and their first son opened the gate for me, when I entered they were eating.

You mean the first son came to open the door for you and not your brother?? The wife's errand skills are slacking, I'm disappointed.

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Family / Re: Nigerian Men And Their Foreign Wives. A Must Read. by Sh0llypopz: 7:59pm On Dec 23, 2015
Shymm3x:

i). How come Nigerian men tend to be happier in relationships with other black women compared to Nigerian women?
ii). Why are Nigerian men always eager to date/marry black women of other nationalities, in lieu of Nigerian women – whereas black men of other nationalities seldom date/marry Nigerian women?

Again you have managed to shift the blame to black women. It's strange, how black men who claim to be leaders blame black women for everything going wrong in their community. It's so fvcking weird that a supposed leader/head doesn't understand that black women have it worse because not only do we have to deal with racism, we also have to deal with sexism.

I am not saying black women cant suffer from self hate but every time there is a thread highlighting the self-hate of a black man, you all somehow make it the black woman's fault. Who are you leading? What leader doesn't take responsibility for the failings of his community and his inability to protect his women.

As far as the bleach comment is concerned, black men play a huge role in that and you know it. Black men consider dating Beckys a "come-up." How many Yoruba songs are there about "Omo pupa", how many American songs are there about 'Red boned' chics? Look at hip-hop, look at the skin of the women that are glorified?
Nigerian artists especially, think they have made it when they start having white women and bi-racials in their videos.

I don't expect an honest reply when it comes to black men issues because you all are the kings of deflecting.

I can't even answer your questions because there are not stat to prove either claims. I would be glad if you could provide me a link to where the ridiculous assertions originate from.

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How can someone be a Nerfititi-wannabe? What does it even mean to be Nerfititi? Anyway, happy holidays to you too!

Thanks, I would totally check out the link. You all are really serious about this huh? I might even invite you to join my campaign when I run for office in Ekiti state. cool tongue

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Family / Re: Nigerian Men And Their Foreign Wives. A Must Read. by Sh0llypopz: 12:43pm On Dec 23, 2015
Mindfulness:


grin grin grin
A cultural or religious revolution needs no money but even here we cherish a culture and mentality which developed nations left behind decades ago.

Do you know that it was a religious revolution, the Protestant Reformation, that changed whole nations including their economies?
It was initiated by people who dared to think differently and in the midst of poverty.

I don't want to derail but I disagree with your example. I think the age of enlightenment/science revolution would be a better example. One can argue that what Boko Haram is doing is a religious revolution. I say this because Protestant reformation might have given room for scientific revolution, developing the standard of life of it's people or economy wasn't the main goal. It was simply a religious war between two doctrines of Christianity.
Family / Re: Nigerian Men And Their Foreign Wives. A Must Read. by Sh0llypopz: 12:22pm On Dec 23, 2015
babygirlfl:
The article was massively generalised. I believe a large number of African men would treat a foreign wife better than they would treat an African wife. However, there are African men who treat their African wives well and like a queen. The African man and African wife both share a fault in the difference in the way the African woman is treated.

Let's be for real. This is not a matter of generalization or anything, the average Nigerian treats white people better than they do their fellow Nigerians. Look at the way the Caucasian expatriates are treated in Nigeria, they are treated better than Nigerian citizens. Can the same be said for Nigerian immigrants in western countries? See, the average Nigerian lights up when they see a white person. It's embarrassing but my people suffer from inferiority complex.

Even the elites are guilty. We are so against consuming things that we create that we even import food produce and trivial things like candles. We take pride in the fact that our clothes are made in America and we look down on anything made in Nigeria.

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Family / Re: Nigerian Men And Their Foreign Wives. A Must Read. by Sh0llypopz: 12:09pm On Dec 23, 2015
Mindfulness:


Poverty should drive people instead of stopping them. Religion is definitely a problem or shall I rather say what people make out of it.

Thanks for the answers. I won't dig deeper into it as we would derail too much and simple answers wouldn't do this topic proper justice.



LOL! Yes, it drives them to scamming. Do you know the amount of money America puts towards research in a year? If you have drive and no resources, you can't achieve nothing. We don't even have facilities for proper education talk less of developing new technologies.

You're right wink

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Family / Re: Nigerian Men And Their Foreign Wives. A Must Read. by Sh0llypopz: 12:01pm On Dec 23, 2015
TooNoisy:
Why do you think Nigerian women are not exactly appealing to white men and men of other nationalities. If indeed Nigerian women possess all these great and wonderful qualities which should make them endearing to men of any colour or nationality. The question is why?

Are you projecting your own issues and low self-esteem? I was never of the impression that white men weren't attracted to Nigerian women; that seems ridiculous considering the number of interracial couples I have met.

And if for whatever reason white men aren't attracted to a Nigerian women, it would be a black issue not a Nigerian issue. Black women have never been the standard of beauty in the western world because a lot of white people believed in the white race being superior. Black people were seen as animals, less smart and thing of mockery to them. It shocks me that a black woman (if you are one and not a troll) would make the comment you made if you are aware of Sara Baartman and your history.


More Nigerian men would prefer Becky to Adesua and the average white guy wouldn't even think of Adesua. Well may be Adesua should examine herself and stop believing that she is the best thing God created. She believes she is way better than Becky but the rest of the world disagrees with her.
Your point is moot because your have no statistics or numbers to prove your ridiculous claims.

Truth is that she should stop her self deceit. The first thing the Nigerian women needs to know is that most men today do not want a stay at home wife. I did not say all, but I will say at least 75% of Nigerian men do not want a stay at home wife. This basically means get a job and be relevant to your society. More men want women who are intellectually presentable. I am not talking about women who understand quantum physics, but women who can at least solve basic problems in the house on their own without waiting for the man for everything. And women who can discuss something more than African Magic and Telemundo.

Most Nigerian men seek self advancement even after marriage, but you see our women pad-locking their brains once they are married and start giving birth. Nigerian men can hand over control to a white woman or a Nigerian woman that shows ability to handle that control. But if you don't even know anything about anything, what do you want to control.

As far as I'm concerned, white women aren't smarter than Nigerian women. They only have access to better education, better funding and their society encourages them to pursue their dreams. This cannot be said for the Nigerian woman growing up in a patriarchal society that glorifies gender roles. How can you beat up Nigerian women for not being career oriented when you champion gender roles? You train these women to see men as head of the home and providers, yet you berate them for thinking the way the society has taught them to?

If you want more career oriented women, you have to give way for feminism in Nigeria.

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Family / Re: Nigerian Men And Their Foreign Wives. A Must Read. by Sh0llypopz: 11:43am On Dec 23, 2015
Mindfulness:


True but I still don't understand why Africans can never be innovative. The progress that takes place in Africa is always the result of the imitation of the Western world but never anything original. And even the imitation is always delayed.

I don't have the answers but this is what I think- Poverty and Religion.

We can't be worried about developing a new technology or travelling to space because we still have fundamental problems like lack of water, food, healthcare, education and so on.

Secondly, we have become so dependent on religion. We have learned to not fight and struggle for what belongs to us but to look to God to save us.

These two I blame on colonialism but I often wondered if killing of twins, and some of the barbaric things that took place in some African ethnic groups would have continued if our lands weren't invaded by white people.
Family / Re: Nigerian Men And Their Foreign Wives. A Must Read. by Sh0llypopz: 11:25am On Dec 23, 2015
Shymm3x:


Regardless, this type of topic is just boring. Folks need to start taking responsibilities for their own actions and whatever reaction they get – and stop moaning. Once you learn how to give out the right energy, you’ll start getting the same energy back in return. If Nigerian men are putting foreign women on a pedestal, it shows foreign women have things Nigerian women fundamentally lack. And perhaps it’s high time they started looking in the mirror and making amends to whatever reflection they see.

The second highlighted sentence makes my blood boil because women (especially black women) have always been raised to blame themselves for the shortcomings of the opposite sex. Women are raped because they weren't dressed properly, they were violently abused because they provoked the man with their tongue, their husbands cheated because they got fat and so on. My issue is this, at what point do you as a black man start to hold other black men to the same standard you hold your women? At what point do you tell your fellow kinsmen to take responsibilities for their actions?

Are you you trying to tell me that you are not aware of the self-hate a lot of black men have? A Nigerian man who has no problem beating his wife would hesitate when it comes to hitting Becky because he knows Becky's rights are protected. Moreover, Becky also has white privilege. He knows that white men would never tolerate a black man hitting one of their women. Na straight to jail. We black women do not have that. Our men are "endangered species", there is no one to protect us.

Black women are raised tough. We are raised to be strong, we are raised to "hold down" our men. We are raised to not focus on "silly" things like romance but be prepared to protect our men because they already have it rough. So, we suffer in silence. We reduce our expectations and we grow up to be women who coddle their sons but hard on their daughters. It's so sad, we are expected to understand the black man, to not call the police on him because a lot of black men are in jail. Yet, these same black men become yes men to Beckys because Beckys have something that black women do not? Like what Shy?

BTW, where is Ileke? What happened to the common wealth thread? I came back and it looks like no one was commenting on the thread anymore.

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Family / Re: Nigerian Men And Their Foreign Wives. A Must Read. by Sh0llypopz: 10:57am On Dec 23, 2015
Mindfulness:


So were white women in the past. Why have they changed? Why have Nigerian women not?

You just need to watch some of the advertisements from the 50s and you will see what gender roles were prevailing at this time. Here is an example of a wife who is supposed to please her husband.

This is true but we should not make it look like Nigerian women have no options. Nigerian families educated their daughters and thus empower them by giving them the opportunity to be independent.

White women created feminism. They wouldn't have if they weren't living in an oppressive/patriarchal society. The reason why Nigerian women haven't changed is due to ignorance and mental slavery. A lot of Nigerian women today are still holding on to gender roles, they are still very guilty of victim blaming and they see themselves as inferior to the opposite gender. Africa has a whole has been backwards in everything! From technology, to economy, to health care issues and even basic policies protecting human rights. So, no surprise here.

Nigerian women are products of their societies. I grew up around highly educated Nigerians and I have lost count of how many times something sexist have been said to me. I was told by a PHD holder that the highest degree a woman can have is the Mrs degree. No matter the level of education of a Nigerian woman, she is to aspire to marriage. She is suppose to learn how to wash dishes or learn how to cook, not because these are skills that would help her be a better independent adult but because she needs to get a husband. The sculpting of the Nigerian woman's minds started since she was baby, the effects of growing up in a patriarchal society seeped into her subconsciously. Mental slavery is powerful ... Nigeria, Africa and the black diaspora as a whole still suffer from the effects of colonialism and slavery.

(I'm lazy but if you want me to expand on mental slavery, I could go on.)

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Family / Re: Nigerian Men And Their Foreign Wives. A Must Read. by Sh0llypopz: 10:29pm On Dec 22, 2015
@Vivalavida99, self-hate also plays a part. BTW, I don't think the number of Nigerian men married to white women is noteworthy. A lot of Nigerian men in diaspora still keep it African because they know only African women will tolerate their rubbish.


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Family / Re: Nigerian Men And Their Foreign Wives. A Must Read. by Sh0llypopz: 10:13pm On Dec 22, 2015
Like I always say, men treat you the way you allow them treat you. Nigerian women grew up in a society where there were little to no laws protecting women.
They were raised to coddle men, cope with their husband's excesses and never demand respect from the opposite sex.


These are some of the things the oyinbo women have that an average Nigerian woman doesn't:
1.) She looks at divorce as an option.
2.) She knows that if her husband cheats, she can leave him knowing that he would still be responsible for taking care of her and the children.
3.) They grew up in a society where parents and people were encouraged to verbally express their love. How many Nigerian parents tell their children they love them. A lot of Nigerian women didn't grow up with constant affirmation from their parents, so they do not think it's weird that their husbands haven't said "I love you" for a year.
4.) White Privilege.

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Romance / Re: Nairaland Romance Section Slum Book 2015. [fill And Tag] by Sh0llypopz: 9:59pm On Dec 01, 2015
aawww, I'm honored. tongue
Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Sh0llypopz: 4:31am On Nov 28, 2015
CabbieAC:



Pheeew! Madam this topic again? grin

It happened only in Ondo.Ezes are everywhere in Yorubaland not just Lagos and Ondo

I guess its just part of their culture.

This is the first time we're experiencing the Eze issue in Yorubaland so I believe they've always been respectful

As per the emboldened,It has always been like that right from time.I mean this is Nigeria,there are no rules.

Speaking of Obas taking bribe and what not, I don't know but I really doubt it

Do Yorubas have similar roles in Eastern states? I mean, do we have Obas in Enugu and the likes? Do we have any approved data/statistics that cites the number of migration from Eastern to Western states and vice versa??
Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Sh0llypopz: 9:21pm On Nov 27, 2015
CabbieAC:
[size=16pt]Igbos having ‘Eze, Igwe, Obi’ in Yorubaland is an affront – Ondo Obas[/size]

Did this happen in all Yoruba states or just Ondo and Lagos? Why do the Igbos in Ondo believe they need a recognized Igbo leader? Are they refusing to be subjects of a Yoruba king??

Who gave the orders that Igbos were allowed to have traditional positions in Western states? Do you think the Obas must have collected money from these Igbos and in turn, sold their birth rights??

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Family / Re: This Is What My House Help Did To Me by Sh0llypopz: 6:47am On Nov 24, 2015
Zuris:


Who is the ignorant person here?
So you were there when she told the parent she wasn't interested and they forced her?

What she did was wrong. How long is two weeks that she couldn't wait for her madam to come back and table her grievances.

What if the neighbours she dropped the child with were paedophiles or ritualists?
You keep going on as if that 2 weeks pay is much more important than the life of the boy she was given take care of.

Meanwhile, your uncouth words shows the kind of person you are. Am not surprised.

@Zurin, a 15 year old cannot give consent. Can someone please explain to this person how a 15 year old cannot be found guilty of child labor because she isn't capable of giving consent at her age??

For example: A 15 year old cannot give consent to a 25 year old man that sleeps with her. He will be charged with r*ape; his actions would be seen as forceful because she cannot give consent.

She is a child, not an adult. She clearly isn't emancipated from her parents, so she couldn't have given consent.

You keep referring to the op as her madam, that is very offensive. You are the last person to question anyone's morals.

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Family / Re: This Is What My House Help Did To Me by Sh0llypopz: 6:39am On Nov 24, 2015
Eketem:


Send your own 11 year old daughter to be a househelp then come back and tell us if your daughter was a " good one" to somebody.

An 11 year old child has no business being a househelp, she is a developing child who needs to learn and play not be saddled with your kids. Gosh, what is wrong with us? Stop this please. Hire a professional or get a creche, stop being penny wise and pound foolish not to talk of illegal, an 11 year old can barely take care of herself. If you are afraid of your husbands fidelity with an older girl then deal with your husband not make a child your maid abeg.

Can I hug you? Seriously, I was dumbfounded when I read that lady's post. Thank you.

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Family / Re: This Is What My House Help Did To Me by Sh0llypopz: 12:47am On Nov 24, 2015
Zuris:


Was she forced into child labour? If the arrangements did not favour her, why did she agree to it?
Is it not better for her to stay with her poverty stricken family than to turn herself to a thief?

The problem with people like you and the omo odo thief is you want immediate gratification.
Can she quantify the opportunity she was given to be able to educate herself and become a better person in the future?
I hope she will eat the meat and drink the juice forever as that seems to be the solution to her problems.

Stop making yourself look ignorant.

Yes, she was forced into child labor by her parents. A 15 year old who has not been emancipated from his/her parent or guardian cannot give consent in a situation like this; especially when those involved her adults.

She is not a thief. As long as the op gave her permission to eat in her husband's home, taking meat and juice for her journey cannot be seen as stealing.

When I work, I expect to get paid. The days of slavery are over!

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Family / Re: This Is What My House Help Did To Me by Sh0llypopz: 9:13pm On Nov 23, 2015
Zuris:


All what you wrote is jargons.
If the school fees is free, is the books and uniform and Sundry items free?

Why didn't she wait for her madam to come back and make a request for her salary for the two months instead of stealing and running away.

If she's being referred to as an omo-odo, is that not what it is? Why is there no dignity in Labour in this country? Everybody wants to be an oga.

If her future matters so much to her, she will endure the omo odo stuff. Afterall, is it not only for two weeks?

How much is minimum wage per hour in Nigeria?? Calculate the number of hours that this girl would work as a maid and a nanny in the home, and figure out her salary for a month. Now deduct expenses for books and sundry, I bet the op is the one getting the better deal here.

The op is not her madam and there is no dignity in child labor. You clearly have a barbaric mentality.

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Family / Re: This Is What My House Help Did To Me by Sh0llypopz: 9:05pm On Nov 23, 2015
Rukemi291:

Shollypopz.... I doubt you read well/understood the post.

You speak of chores..... I have a washing machine... so washing plates is a chore? Picking up my boy from school with transportation fully paid for... is a chore? They are things I do myself before she came.

mind you, she hawks for her mum where they stay.

From ur post I can see you don't have a child yet if at all you are working... When you have all combined like it is for me, I will task you to come back and read your post and judge yourself.

Did you even read the part that her academic year would start counting from January? She was in JS2 with very poor results and her mum said she should repeat JS1 so that she would improve. I assure u, we had both started learning together too.

You speak of tuition fee obviously u didn't read d post. Did u see that I just registered her? U won't pay for registration? uniforms and all? I paid.

You are the type that gets a teacher on one topic for weeks.

I don't have a child and you can bet that if I do, I wouldn't employ a 15 year old to be my nanny. The Nigerian society is a little different, so I'm ignoring the child labor going on here.

"You said she hawks for her mom" like it justifies anything. That is like a Spanish slave master demanding gratitude because he didn't treat his slaves as bad as the Europeans did. It is not her mom that opened this thread, if it was her mom, you can bet my comment will be way worse.

Of course, you paid! You are suppose to! Am I suppose to hand you a cookie for paying someone for the service they are rendering and would continue to render?

I don't know what planet you live in but on planet earth, doing laundry even with washer and dryer is a chore. Washing plates is a chore. Sweeping, vacuuming, mopping, and cleaning the bathroom are all chores. Picking up your child is not a chore but the work of a nanny. That is why I said she is working two jobs. Staying with your kid, playing with him, changing his diapers, feeding him, putting him to bed, are all duties required of a nanny.

The fact that you didn't even bother to check if it was okay with her before transporting her shows the kind of boss you are. I bet you are the kind of boss that never says thank you. It was a lack of communication on your part, not the fault of a mobile phone.

I am not trying to be mean to you or anything, I am just giving my opinion on the thread. You don't have to like it, but I'm not about to castigate a child for acting like a child.

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Family / Re: This Is What My House Help Did To Me by Sh0llypopz: 6:17pm On Nov 23, 2015
fr3do:
Stop this slavery!
Employ an adult part time to do chores for you.

The girl does not only do chores, she is also a nanny! A freaking 15 year old child! Working two jobs so she can go to school. Yet, everyone wants to castigate the young girl for getting pissed.

The child had already missed number of days in school, she is the last person to be taking a two-week vacation from school.

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Family / Re: This Is What My House Help Did To Me by Sh0llypopz: 6:10pm On Nov 23, 2015
I'm so confused as to why everybody is feeling sorry for the op; da fvck??!!

How many of you would be fine if your employer tells you that you wouldn't be getting paid for two weeks while you're working because they need to travel?

Her education was the payment for her services. Btw, isn't Lagos State Public schools free?? How much is the op paying for tuition??


Secondly, we are dealing with a 15 yr old child here, not an adult. So, this young girl must be treated as such. Is she allowed to eat in the op's home?? If yes, then how did she steal meat and juice?? As far as I'm concerned, she took food to eat for her journey.


Thirdly, the op clearly dismissed the girls'd feelings and it's obvious that the op hasn't taking the time to get to know this young girl. Nigerians look down on their helps and talk to them disrespectfully, it's not far fetched for the neighbors to refer to her as omo-odo. The op is not the recipient of the insult, so she is not in a position to dismiss the little girl's claims.


Yes, speaking to the the mother would be the right thing to do here. Take time to build genuine relationships with those that work in your home. Especially, if you are going to trust them with your child.

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Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Sh0llypopz: 2:00am On Nov 23, 2015
MayorofLagos:


Symbolism my dear...symbolism is a protocol of communication in society. I agree with you, Eze, to the extent that in some neighbourhood in Lagos we even have two or three, have been abused. On meaning....Iyaloja is the only acceptable leadership of a market in Yorubaland.

Why the hell are the real Lagosians okay with this?? Is there anything similar to what is going on in Lagos in any Igbo states?? Or are Yorubas the only mumu??
Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Sh0llypopz: 1:56am On Nov 23, 2015
Shymm3x:


You're late.

Gregory was installed as the Eze Igbo of Ondo and cos of his title, he challenged the orders of the King of Akure and installed an Igbo as leader of the market over there.

One thing led to the other and gregory was flogged mercilessly by Ondo youths.

That was what Mayor was alluding to in his parable.

Gregory getting his arse whooped:

Do we have Obas in Igbo lands? Why do need an Eze of Ondo?? I'm confused. Did anything change after he got beaten??
Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Sh0llypopz: 1:52am On Nov 23, 2015
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Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Sh0llypopz: 1:40am On Nov 23, 2015
MayorofLagos:


Isn that same shyyt that got Gregory invited for @ss whooping in Akure Gregor installed a leader against the IYALOJA institutiin and so Deji summoned him for explanation....where he got flogged!

Eleko is behind Iyaloja of Lagos. Dont worry, we will summon Eze of Alaba to meet Eleko at the waterfront. grin grin

Does the leader Gregory installed have any power or influence?? Is the position even recognized among the retailers in the market?

Is Alaba market not in Lagos?? Why do we have an Eze and not an Oba?
Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Sh0llypopz: 1:28am On Nov 23, 2015
Shymm3x:


Hmmmm.....

Try this then:

https:// youtu.be/OrXB31Znxpk

LoL, it said something about not playing in my country. Listening to "It's not that easy" instead. I was a fan of Lemar when he was relevant. Lol
Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Sh0llypopz: 1:25am On Nov 23, 2015
MayorofLagos:


grin grin grin grin grin

If we take Lagos and donate it to Ibo, in 6yrs there will be no trace of Ibo language left in alaibo....Yoruba Yoruba would be their linguafranca from Nsukka sector down to Aba. You are joking with our relevance to the Oduduwa dynasty. grin grin

I asked because I read that a few Igbos had a protest in a popular market in Lagos. They were requesting to have leadership positions in this market. Have you heard of this? If yes, was the request granted?

And if it was, don't you think it's detrimental to the history of Lagos when Igbos start holding traditional roles.
Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Sh0llypopz: 1:21am On Nov 23, 2015
Shymm3x:
Sh0llypopz

My Ekiti e-frenemy, now that you're back - I need to dedicate one of favourite tunes to you. tongue

Jaheim - Put That Woman First

I don't like the song Shy.
Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Sh0llypopz: 1:17am On Nov 23, 2015
IlekeHD:


Sh0llypopz, this is MOL..... our oldest elder on nl tongue

I'm not a fan older Nigerians. Why did you tell me?? cry cry
Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Sh0llypopz: 1:13am On Nov 23, 2015
IlekeHD:


He's alive and he is still my "brother". He's busy, I guess.

Wanna holla @ my bro? Just lemme know and I'll set the date wink grin

Nah, just checking on him. Good to know he's alive, lol.

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