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healthserve:
If you judge God wrong using "excerpts" of His own account of creation, can't you see you've missed it even before the cross examination starts? No matter how intelligent we are, we can't outwit a manufacturer's intelligence, trust me EVEN Google wouldn't outwit Microsoft on its innovations



To win God at a debate, you must use your own created context and not faulty - derivatives we have based on whatever cognitive vantage points we assume brother

There is no debate. I was only showing you how the Bible makes no sense in that regard. You see a problem eons ahead of time and instead of preventing the problem, you let it be then blame and suffer billions of your creation in eternal fire for no reason of theirs. The Bible fails on its own merit.


Also. If God created and said Jesus before the foundation of the world, would it be wrong that in His omniscience, He goes ahead and comes back to a point(creation point), to create a redemption point for man's wrongs. Man didn't fall from the consequence of lack of choice. No. It was actually from an expression of choice. That opened portals of devastation and destruction

healthserve:
I'm engaged. And locked in



I didn't ignore. After perusing his context of his arguments. I say the mental standpoint of the commentator and noticed it was flawed and told pointed him to the context upon which all knowledge acquired is affected. Hence reading the Bible 2 billion times with the same mindset doesn't amount to anything... As its the context that needs to be fixed.... And not what pours out of the mould, but fixing he mould.


Now if God created man and assumes responsibilities for man's actions then God is responsible for man's error. But the possibility of man's choice leaves man's the bearer of his actions and consequences. Hence death being the consequence of man's fall will continue to have roll over effects from one generation to the other and thus, the aftermath of generational problems been the problem of man's actions and not God's doing or undoing

Man had no choice in regards to the event in the garden of Eden. Revelation 13:8 talks about the "Lamb slain from the foundation of the world". So this means God knew man was going to fall even before he created the earth. I personally do not believe in the notion of free will as no one is able to take an independent action



You ask that I show some respect I respond by saying show God some. Now the consequences of sin at the prime time of humankind set the entire world on a different pedestal than it would have if man havmd walked the right path. So if faults exists in the tonal arrangement in the earth crusts and causes damage in Nigeria today for example and 2.4million people die.The action didn't occur when the earthquake occur but upon its inertia point when all things got triggered.

You keep blaming man for things a "Loving God" should have prevented. The inertia point you referred to when all this got triggered it way before man was created.



About events being stopped how can you trace the point where any action can be stopped when you can't accurately determine the beginning of any point in life. Before atom was the beginning, knowledge told us into atoms, where protons. And suboarticles even inside protons will ultimately all energy and mocelular life being pack of energy(Quantum Pysics), and with these beginning with a bang, the vibration impact of God's words against the unformed pre-existence

These sub particles have been futher broken down into quarks, leptons, bosons...(Standard Model) but i do not get how that plays into this discussion
Can i ask what the source of evil is?


So remind me what exactly is this discussion about?

healthserve:
I'm engaged. And locked in



I didn't ignore. After perusing his context of his arguments. I say the mental standpoint of the commentator and noticed it was flawed and told pointed him to the context upon which all knowledge acquired is affected. Hence reading the Bible 2 billion times with the same mindset doesn't amount to anything... As its the context that needs to be fixed.... And not what pours out of the mould, but fixing he mould.

healthserve:
Ouch. If you have rationalisations I'll be glad to engage you

healthserve:
" Posture" . There's a rank in the psychic/spirit realm where arrogance is well, permitted to an extent. Not easy being a walking immortal... Amongst mortals. . This realm, the energy is pure white, not even negative or positive. White energy is the peak... Perhaps another lifetime. As my time here is up mate