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Dtruthspeaker:
This was as a result of an earlier contention we had which was actually an offshoot from this belief of his.

And that was the first time we began this issue for It was in that argument that I foresaw and perceived that he was standing on this false ground.

So I left of the argument with him then to wait for him to show himself.

Which is what this is his thread clearly exhibits.

Dtruthspeaker:
He first started by speaking rightly so much that I had to reasonable conclude he knew God and understood Him UNTIL...

Dtruthspeaker:
He does not directly and expressly declare the preaching of immorality BUT

1) HE DOES NOT DIRECTLY AND EXPRESSLY CONDEMN IMMORALITY.

2) HE IMPLIEDLY UPHOLDS MAN'S PROBLEM OF BEING IMMORAL.

PLEASE READ UP ON "IMPLIED ADMISSIONS OR IMPLIED TERMS OF CONTRACT".

And because of this error, I would seriously agitated.

Dtruthspeaker:
The bold was not in his presentation at all and that was the missing element I was wondering why it was not included!

awitness41:
If I read your profile correctly, shadeyinka, it said you have a birthday today !

If so, Happy Birthday... as a commemoration of when you were brought into this world.

As I write that, I'm reminded of some religious group (the Jehovah's Witnesses?) that does not acknowledge birthdays, but even so, it's not sin.

For as the Angel in Luke 2 told the shepherds when Jesus was born:
10 Do not be afraid, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people.
11 For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.
12 And this will be the sign to you: You will find a Babe wrapped in swaddling cloths, lying in a manger.

If celebrating a birth itself is not a birth-day celebration, I don't know what is.

Same for John 16:21: A woman, when she is in labor, has sorrow because her hour has come; but as soon as she has given birth to the child, she no longer remembers the anguish, for joy that a human being has been born into the world.

Celebrating one's birth is a joy, not a sin.
Nor is remembering it later on as a time-marker of our lives.

And so may I humbly say "Happy Birthday, shadeyinka"... if that does not offend you (and apologies if it does).

Bishopkingsley:
I have no issues with your friend Dtruthspeaker rather he came to my post and abused me and insulted me it either he apologize or remain calm because I have principles I don't Condon abuse and insult

I don't really care about his opinion I only discus with people who have the fear of God those who respect the word of God and they avoid abuse on their lips no matter the provocation involved

James 3:10 ►
Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers and sisters, this should not be.

New Living Translation
And so blessing and cursing come pouring out of the same mouth. Surely, my brothers and sisters, this is not right!


God sent me to rightly divide the word of truth and no one can come and act in an ungodly manner in my presence

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you not see the Shiitty Cover he fabricated and takes upon himself in which to hide his love for sinning?



Like a prostitute and a man who has just slept with someone's husband/wife even this morning will receive a warm embrace from God, if God should come now just because of saying some words last week Sunday!

Bishopkingsley:
Your quote
The problem is a person who assumes that he is saved because he said the sinner's prayer after an alter call BUT who didn't become a new creature in Christ.

Answer
I understand where you are heading but we are not talking about this set of people above
Rather we are only talking about those who God has saved because only God knows those that are his

Any one can say they are saved but the signs of been saved is a personal thing only you and God know if you are saved

So the question is only about those who are saved truly and those who God knows they are saved Will they remain saved forever?

I have stated the answer to it and those who refuse to hear it refuse to acknowledge who God is truly is

All knowing God

Bishopkingsley:
Your quote
The problem is a person who assumes that he is saved because he said the sinner's prayer after an alter call BUT who didn't become a new creature in Christ.

Answer
I understand where you are heading but we are not talking about this set of people above
Rather we are only talking about those who God has saved because only God knows those that are his

Any one can say they are saved but the signs of been saved is a personal thing only you and God know if you are saved

So the question is only about those who are saved truly and those who God knows they are saved Will they remain saved forever?

I have stated the answer to it and those who refuse to hear it refuse to acknowledge who God is truly is

All knowing God

Bishopkingsley:
You said Bible truth but now the question is

When God chose you and saves you are you saved forever or not?

That is the main thing that those who don't know how powerful God is question.

Dtruthspeaker:
Shadeyinka have you seen what we once argued about that false grace teachers have taught prostitites and liars that they are saved and can continue in their sins as long as they believe?

Now you are not here to tell them what you always told me

timesup234:
Only muslims? I am a shango worshipper operating from the highest realm of olokun, ayelala and ogun

timesup234:
It is a shame the world will remain in a brainwashed stage in another 20yrs. Iran has every right to develop nuclear weapon. Israel is the real terrorist in the middle east. Israel has no right to exist. Zionism is the cause of all the problems in our world today. Israel must seize to exist

BassReeves:
I paid you back in your own currency

From now on, be quick to listen, slow to speak or type

Thats exactly what your problem is. You think wrongly because I'll run circles round you, telling you about the GIFT of faith and faith in use.

You are nothing other than a comedian who really shouldn't be taking seriously. I suppose on the strength of the nonsense comment you typed here, you're going rip out of your bible, the Hebrew's Hall of faith fame list. Hmm?

You're worse than a Pharisee. You're a 21st century Far-I See

Be busy under the influence of Satan be doing a contextomy with my comments

BassReeves:
James 1:17
'Whatever is good and perfect is a gift coming down to us from God our Father, who created all the lights in the heavens.
He never changes or casts a shifting shadow.'

BassReeves:
You better reply to my post, asking. So you want to play hardball. Right?
No problem, I know how to play hardball. Lets play hardball with you then
1. Do all believers have equal and exact measure of spiritual gifts?

BassReeves:
2. Are there believers, in your understanding, who have absolutely nothing spiritual gifts?

BassReeves:
3. Did Eve, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Rahab, David, Mary etc have any spiritual gift of faith at all or not?

James4358:
Hello my nairaland family. I'll make this post short & precise... I buried my dad around april this year.

Am the only available child, as my elder brother relocated abroad in january & has refused to make contact. I took a loan to sponsor my bro's trip abroad, & also took another loan from my bank to partly sponsor the burial as all the family burden rested on my shoulders..

Last month, my dad appeared in a dream telling me to hurry up in paying a vow he made in church of abt 50k before he died. I was warming up to pay the vow this month's ending as am stil servicing the loans i got from my bank.

He appeared last week to remind me but yesterday night's own came with severe flocking. Am stil feeling the pains from the cain he used at my back & joints..

How do i contain him before month end when i'll be bouyant to pay the vow.

Am afraid he may return with more beatings,. & am jst 30yrs old, & wouldnt want to have any part of my body deformed as a result.

Your suggestions wil be greatly appreciated!

Obinna53:
There's this Girl, I love so much,so one Day she went to stay at a Friends place for a justifiable reason.The next Day she came back Home everything was fine but after a couple of Days I noticed how fragile she became and always had this pity face.Then she sat me down one Day crying and told me she wanted to tell me something and Should Forgive her Please and Boom!!! She Told me what ensured between her and the Guy that Night,Right now I am really Moody, I would like to here your Individual Opinion on this Situation and how you handled it, if you had like my Experience, Thank You

BassReeves:
So you want to play hardball. Right?
No problem, I know how to play hardball. Lets play hardball with you then
1. Do all believers have equal and exact measure of spiritual gifts?
2. Are there believers, in your understanding, who have absolutely nothing spiritual gifts?
3. Did Eve, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Rahab, David, Mary etc have any spiritual gift of faith at all?

Acts 2:1-13
'1When the day of Pentecost had come, they were all together in one place,
2and suddenly a sound came from heaven like a rushing violent wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting.
3There appeared to them tongues resembling fire, which were being distributed [among them], and they rested on each one of them [as each person received the Holy Spirit].
4And they were all filled [that is, diffused throughout their being] with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues (different languages), as the Spirit was giving them the ability to speak out [clearly and appropriately].
5Now there were Jews living in Jerusalem, devout and God-fearing men from every nation under heaven.
6And when this sound was heard, a crowd gathered, and they were bewildered because each one was hearing those in the upper room speaking in his own language or dialect.
7They were completely astonished, saying, “Look! Are not all of these who are speaking Galileans?
8Then how is it that each of us hears in our own language or native dialect?
9[Among us there are] Parthians, Medes and Elamites, and people of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia [Minor], 10Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the districts of Libya around Cyrene, and the visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes (Gentile converts to Judaism),
11Cretans and Arabs--we all hear them speaking in our [native] tongues about the mighty works of God!”
12And they were beside themselves with amazement and were greatly perplexed, saying one to another, “What could this mean?”
13But others were laughing and joking and ridiculing them, saying, “They are full of sweet wine and are drunk!”'

Of course, the visitors from Rome at least, would hear the Gospel spoken to them in Greek

BassReeves:
What is special, is that you are, at least, not dumb.

The ability to speak is a spiritual gift from God. Often you'll hear people say that it is a spiritual attack that's the reason behind someoneone being deaf and dumb. Isnt it that how you hear some people trying to rationalise the cause or reason for the deafness and dumbness?

BassReeves:
Probably same source and place you get yours from. I think you share the same dealer with them

Are you normal? Have you come off your medication or you've been hacked into?

BassReeves:
Mark 9:24
'17A man in the crowd answered, “Teacher, I brought my son to you, because he has an evil spirit in him and cannot talk.
18Whenever the spirit attacks him, it throws him to the ground, and he foams at the mouth, grits his teeth, and becomes stiff all over. I asked your disciples to drive the spirit out, but they could not.”
19Jesus said to them, “How unbelieving you people are! How long must I stay with you? How long do I have to put up with you? Bring the boy to me!”
20They brought him to Jesus.
As soon as the spirit saw Jesus, it threw the boy into a fit, so that he fell on the ground and rolled around, foaming at the mouth.
21“How long has he been like this?” Jesus asked the father.
“Ever since he was a child,” he replied.
22“Many times the evil spirit has tried to kill him by throwing him in the fire and into water. Have pity on us and help us, if you possibly can!”
23“Yes,” said Jesus, “if you yourself can! Everything is possible for the person who has faith.”
24The father at once cried out, "I do have faith, but not enough. Help me have more!"'

I repeat that the father had the Gift of Faith, but wasn't able to wield the faith into operation. His faith wasn't functioning well enough, hence he cried out to Jesus, to help him maximise his operation in faith

Every good gift comes from above, so means it was God who gave the father the gift

Its you who is utterly confused about all this. The Father asked Jesus for Help with respect to His Faith at Mark 9:24

BassReeves:
Hebrews 11:6
'But without faith it is impossible to [walk with God and] please Him,
for whoever comes [near] to God must [necessarily] believe that God exists
and that He rewards those who [earnestly and diligently] seek Him'

It is because faith is the currency of the Kingdom of Heaven. Also that, without faith, it is impossible to please God.

The acid in my stomach neutralises whatever I hear ignoranuses like you and sweet mouthed preachers preach
Mind you, faith comes in different sizes

BassReeves:
It seems you don't know that the father had the Gift of Faith, but wasn't able to wield the faith into operation. His faith wasn't functioning well enough, hence he cried out to Jesus, to help him maximise his operation in faith

BassReeves:
You'll talking codswallop if you're saying not all believers have the gift of faith

2 Timothy 1:7 NKJV
'For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind'

Do you know what FEAR, stands for? It stands for 'False Evidence Appearing Real'
Tell me, what is the one word, remedy, for fear or tell me what the one word antidote to fear is?

Hebrews 11:1
'Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.'

Romans 10:17
'So faith comes from hearing [what is told],
and what is heard comes by the [preaching of the] message concerning Christ.'

'even an unbeliever can have faith on hearing the word of God for salvation' sic and the reason for that, is because it is a gift from God

You've just parroted what I earlier typed that 'Every believer has the gift of faith, albeit they are in different measurable levels, hence the historic 'I do believe: strengthen my weak faith' plea'

Please advance your answers to the following earlier asked you. Thanks
What is the name your mother tongue is called? Is it a gift of speaking in tongues or not?
Where did your gift of speaking in your mother tongue come from? Is it from God or from the devil?

BassReeves:
What is the name your mother tongue is called? Is it a gift of speaking in tongues or not?
Where did your gift of speaking in your mother tongue come from? Is it from God or from the devil?
Do you pray in your mother tongue or you dont pray using your mother tongue?

BassReeves:
It seems you don't know that the father had the Gift of Faith, but wasn't able to wield the faith into operation. His faith wasn't functioning well enough, hence he cried out to Jesus, to help him maximise his operation in faith

You'll talking codswallop if you're saying not all believers have the gift of faith

2 Timothy 1:7 NKJV
'For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind'

Do you know what FEAR, stands for? It stands for 'False Evidence Appearing Real'
Tell me, what is the one word, remedy, for fear or tell me what the one word antidote to fear is?

Hebrews 11:1
'Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.'

Romans 10:17
'So faith comes from hearing [what is told],
and what is heard comes by the [preaching of the] message concerning Christ.'

'even an unbeliever can have faith on hearing the word of God for salvation' sic and the reason for that, is because it is a gift from God

You've just parroted what I earlier typed that 'Every believer has the gift of faith, albeit they are in different measurable levels, hence the historic 'I do believe: strengthen my weak faith' plea'

Please advance your answers to the following earlier asked you. Thanks
What is the name your mother tongue is called? Is it a gift of speaking in tongues or not?
Where did your gift of speaking in your mother tongue come from? Is it from God or from the devil?

Bishopkingsley:
Wow is this how you read the Bible wow no problem now I know what is inside you

Bishopkingsley:
Is this what we are talking about
You are just trying to justify your reason for not wanting to obey God word

Our topic is about tongues no one has ever said don't do other things after all I told you soul winning is the vital thing to do I said it to you over a million times

Bishopkingsley:
I think it time for us to end our conversation
Because we are not on the same page and lack of faith is the most deadly thing to get from people around you

Jesus couldn't do mighty works in his village imagine God Almighty could not because of his villagers unbelieve unbelieve is more dangerous than sin or any thing

Jesus had to quickly leave that location

Unbelief is actually what takes people to hell not even sin

Let end our conversation before you transfer the evil aroma to me

God bless you in your work

Bye

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Bishopkingsley:
My brother you can believe what you want
Bible said we know in part

What I teach is what I believe and it in the Bible we speak because we believe and therefore we speak

Am happy to have received this beautiful gift of tongues which is the evidence of the Holy Spirit living in your body

You can refuse him or refuse his speaking in tongues he is a perfect gentleman there is no one who says bad things about tongues that actually got it that is the amazing thing

What ever you despise you won't get you only get what you desire

Bishopkingsley:
Read those thread pages I answered the questions

Bishopkingsley:
God just showed me why you have not been able to receive this beautiful gift.

You can continue to believe the things you want no problem with me

You can say you own idea of what speaking in tongues is it your own mind set it not what is in the Bible

I only wish you well since you refuse to listen to me I know what am saying and I know how powerful this thing am saying is

All the things I say can be found in the Bible
My heart burns as a speak this things that is the effects of the Holy Spirit Baptism and fire gift

I just wish you well thank God I was not like you when God was leading me in his ways

Bishopkingsley:
Read this place very well and tell me what you notice

Mark 16

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

Bishopkingsley:
No need because you are not even understanding where am heading too wow

Let me try

Now example I can pray in tongues and am taking to God saying to God my father once it get there I want all demons to be dealt with
Once I give the command (in the known language you want right Mr shadeyinka)

Then when I come to the meeting it start happening as I have prayed in the tongues people wonder how is it happening so easy they don't know I have charged up on speaking in tongues and handled it in the spiritual realm

When I tell you you don't understand me I know what am saying you only thing one way without knowing what I mean by those statements I wrote