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pazienza:
Ijaw has a meaning in Igbo,search for the meaning.

Obigbo town belongs to Asa people, the same same people that inhabits Ukwa west LGA of Abia state, Obigbo township was built on Asa land.

The rest of Oyigbo LGA is made up of Asa and Ndoki towns. They were never virgin lands, they were Asa and Ndoki villages.

Ndoki has nothing to do with Ijaw, instead it's the other way round, some group of Ndoki Igbos together with some Ijaw elements founded Bonny. The influence you have in mind is in reverse, ie Ndoki Igbos influencing Ijaws, that's why Nwotam festival an Ndoki Igbo festival is still celebrated in Opobo till today.

Opobo and Bonny have strong Igbo indigenous presence.

Men stop arguing stupidly, you are not even an Ndoki man so shut up.. Ndoki people know their own history and what they are so face your own issue.. Damn !! We have a lot of Ndoki folks in our Ijaw forum . . Ok what ever you say.. You are not a Bonny man and you are not Opobo so stop taking panadol over btheir case.. They are all members of Ijaw national congress. .

HopeAtHand:
You too like sermon.

Port Harcourt wharf is under which ward in present PHalGA??

Which councillor represents that area?

Igbo fool.. I said it.. These Igbo people are just out to wreck Rivers unity.. Look my friend.. When Sekibo the Okrika man was senator representing PH and even Ikwere Lga and Okrika together , He was voted by Ikweres.. Ph is a township and it is not a village like your places. Even a Hausa man or Yoruba can win elections in PH and it is due to civilization and not Tribalism.. Port Harcourt is the USA, ENGLAND AND CANADA of Nigeria so Carry your tribalism to your village bro. I said you are not a Rivers man.. a True Rivers man who lives in PH would not ask this silly question cos we Rivers PH dudes do not even go along tribal line.

Ugomba:
you blap like a girl mensurating. Count we anioma out of your Igbo hating rants. Aniomas are more relevant in Nigeria politics than your mini tribe in rivers,hahahahaha. We have CBN and NNPC appointments and our son is ruling Delta state now while your tiny mini tribe have not ruled Rivers state b4

Another ignoramus.. Anioma that are oppressed by small Urhobo in Delta state.. Urhobo will soon take over Asaba.. Just as The Kalabaris are taking over Ikwere land.. Do you even know that the Ijaws keep their land to themselves and make use of the land of others ? Anioma people are only known with 419 and even their 419 king ping Ajudua was made by Port Harcourt people.

tonychristopher:
what's the meaning of ndoki

I gave the meaning but to elaborate it.. Ndoki is the short form of Ini a Doki but generally people say Ndoki meaning... Search for them.. A search party search for some people would say Ndoki.. It is an Eastern Ijaw expression mostly by the Kalabari and Okrika and ancient Ibani..

Ugomba:
its like you are insultive in nature. I am coming from Asaba and I don't know how to locate oyigbo lga when i enter Ph, thats why i asked HopeAtHand.. And you are here telling me boring history, hahahahahahaha.. Ndoki is not an Ijaw name, there is an ndoki village in Abia, I have attended a traditional wedding there in 2012.

Oyigbo is on ABA road and the first place to reach when coming from ABA to Rivers state.. Sorry about the rough word..

Ugomba:
as an ogwashi guy representing, i put it to you that you know Nothing about us. Anioma is a unifying name coined to unite we Igboid groups in Delta.

so what does clan mean ? Illiterate .

Ugomba:
I thought Rivers is a multiethnic state.. Delta state is multiethnic but we know ourselves.. Btw where is oyigbo local govt. located? Want to give someone a suprise visit.

The only natives of Oyigbo LGA are the NDOKI.. The Oyigbo itself was a yam market where Ngwa Igbos used to bring their yam to sell.. It is the same with the Oyigbo in Lagos where Igbos used to trade.. Hence the name Oyigbo although the Igbos prefer Obiigbo as the name.. There are no natives of the place... Like I said the Lga is controlled by the Ndoki.. and Ndoki has an Ijaw of Ibani history although majority of them today are Ngwa mixed with Arochukwu. The word NDOKI is Ijaw meaning search for them.

OfoIgbo:
You have used a very faulty analogy.

There is no town called Anioma, yet it exists as a word, and we know all the towns and villages in Anioma.

There is no Wawa, but we no the areas and towns that exist within the Wawa enclave.

Igweocha is the name of the area currently known as PH. I believe there are also Okrika settlements encompassed by the modern PH. But much of PH was known as Igweocha before the coming of the whiteman

Anioma is a clan just as Ngwa is a clan.. Is there any town called Ngwa ?

Ugomba:
I thought Rivers is a multiethnic state.. Delta state is multiethnic but we know ourselves.. Btw where is oyigbo local govt. located? Want to give someone a suprise visit.

The only natives of Oyigbo LGA are the NDOKI.. The Oyigbo itself was a yam market where Ngwa Igbos used to bring their yam to sell.. It is the same with the Oyigbo in Lagos where Igbos used to trade.. Hence the name Oyigbo although the Igbos prefer Obiigbo as the name.. There are no natives of the place... Like I said the Lga is controlled by the Ndoki.. and Ndoki has an Ijaw of Ibani history although majority of them today are Ngwa mixed with Arochukwu. The word NDOKI is Ijaw meaning search for them.

biafranking:
fire dey go..i dey feel yu..that guy don forget wen ndi ocha(white pple) com ph..
dem papa then dey put on flowers for yansh b4 igbo man com ask ikwerre elders questn wether mak d white pple use that place do project or not.?
The ikwerre man com sey him agree.
see how igboman took permission for una hand.
Una com dey see us as land undertaker because my gran fada and mama wise pass una own abi..
Ok o..keeep on seeing igboman as una enemy. Time shall tell.

God dey

LOL the white people moved from Degema to Port Harcourt cos Degema was a bit difficult to link with the rail line.. Abonnema was the sea port then while Degema was the English settlement.. . The English never even knew the Ikweres and the Igbos were slaves then and Laborers while the Kalabari mainly were the middle men .. Ignoramus.. You better know about Rivers state before you utter words about us..

HopeAtHand:
First, the Port Harcourt wharf is owned by who?.Ikwerre Kalabari or Okrika?

Port Harcourt warf is the Port Harcourt and it does not have Ikwere name.. It belongs to the OGBOGBO clan of Okrika kingdom.. The entire land belongs to the Ogbogbo and thats why the Ogbogbo are the only recognized Port Harcourt Aborigines ..They are natives of the land between Isaka Borikiri and the entire Port Harcourt town up to Old GRA... The Nkpogu Ikweres owned Nkpogu while the Abulomas own Abuloma and Amadi ama.. Diobu is where Kalabari was supposed to own but they never had interest cos of their internal conflict.. The Rumuwoji family is the only family in mile one and they do not own the whole mile one..

biafranking:
who re the we?
Re yu ikwerre? If yu re not,u cant accept us cos ph belongs to ikwerres.
Just that some ikwerre re so silly to think we want to overshadow them..
Ph is part and percel of eastern community so expect us to feel at home than lagos,kaduna or kano.

If anything want to happens to an igbo man in ph,okrika,kalabari or ijaws, it s easy for we igbos to ambush and dominate than a place we re less than..

LOL Ignoramus.. You feel at home at Ikwere areas of Port Harcourt which were never part of Port Harcourt but simply Ikwere villages. .Port Harcourt is very small and it does not include all the places you guys now call Port Harcourt.

biafranking:
nwenne..
ebi like sey Yu never still wake up.
Your eyes neva still clear.
That siding of okrika go still repeat itself anyday anytime wetha in politics or land grabbing.
Yu know why. The ijaws. okrika and kalabari see una as igbo but no quote me to derail this thread jus kontinue ur comments with shota..
I dey feel u..

Ignoramus.. You see Igbos who do not know anything about Rivers would continue to set Rivers people against each other.. If you do not know Ogbakiri and Kalabari is almost joining cos Emohua Kalabari road runs through Ogbakiri land and many Kalabari settlements are already by Ogbakiri.. Ogbakiri of the Okporowo are also almost Kalabari so carry your trouble making busy body Igbo spirit go Ngwa land.

HopeAtHand:
Shota na wah oh.
Shota na wah oh.
Shota na wah oh....hmmmmm.


So Kalabari are now part of the PH picture..Is there any document signed between Kalabaris and the British regarding any part of PH?.Which case has the kalabaris instigated and defended in a court of law from colonial times til date as regards PH?

The tussle Kalabaris had with Okrikans was purely property grab after the Igbos were deposed of their properties after the civil war..

The Ikwerres have ancestral rights to lands in PH, we have valid documents signed with the British for the establishment of the Port Harcourt port and Wharf and the subsequent colonial housing units that followed.

Okrika used to be a very few people of maybe a thousand or less by the time the british arrived..They are not a people large enough to have such lands to give out..

The Nigerian Federal Government after the war gave Ijaws control of Rivers state and they used it to alot to themselves properties of others...Fear of the evil they carried out is the reason they reject the govts decision to modernise waterside...go and learn history.

Did you not read the part I wrote about a Bakana chief standing as witness when the Okrika chiefs signed the agreement with the British to build PH ? The document is with both Okrika and KALABARI chiefs and its is cos of that document NO JUPITER has been able to cough .. PH belongs to the Okrika and as at now Okrika chiefs control all the quarters of PH..

Even my uncle Prof GOM TASIE who is half Isiokpo and half Bakana ( Kalabari ) who is an Ikwere spokes man is blaming the absence of Ikwere chiefs during the signing of the agreement and you are here lying about document.. PH case is closed and firmly under Okrika traditional rulers so stop your backyard noise.. Its Only Okrikans that sell land in PH.. Have you ever heard of any Ikwere family that own land in PORT HARCOURT ?

Kalabari traditional ruling council never intervened in the water front issue cos they do not have any claim to the places although they are the settlers at the diobu water fronts and they own the eagle island so AMAECHI was able to do what he likes at the Diobu water front.. Now How come AMAECHI could not enter the Town water fronts ? Cos the Okrika traditional ruling council never allowed him.... Did Amaechi not change the name of Nzemanze water front to RUMUWOJI ? Was that not his plan ? To take the land and give it to non existing people just to make it Ikwere.. Rumuwoji started from Mile one market and the natives is just one family and I know few of them cos I lived at mile one briefly and they also have a cemetery to confirm their existence and ownership of the place.. But their land does not extend to Udi street.. . From Udi street , the place is called ELECHI and it was so called cos an Igbo man called ELECHI was the first man to live there during the colonial days. Elechi lived there while Kalabari fishing people stayed at the water side to fish and sell and the boundary between Elechi farm and the Kalabari fishing people was at the Nzemanze just by the kidney island .. Amaechi has built a primary school there and called the place RUMUWOJI..LOL.. So now Abonnema warf is Rumuwoji also...

biafranking:
ok because he said the truth and kick against the ijaws acclaimation of wrong assertion.he s now an igboman?abi
He hate ijaws abi..?

yu can checked his old comments,that guy is part and parcel of yu lot from southsouth but the spirit of igboness will always linger somehow no matter how they denied it..
He doesnt hate ijaw pple,he only fire the engine like an igbo man and that s how our spirit roll if they start to belief.loL

He is from Ogbakiri and Ogbakiri people are historically pro Ijaw although they are Ikwere . He is far from the land PH and he also perhaps does not know PH .. And stop wasting your time PH is under Okrika control fully..

biafranking:
chai..na wa o..is ph not igweocha b4 and now?
The guy na ikwerre o..

Where is the Port Harcourt that is Igweocha ? I ask you again ? Which town or settlement or village of Port Harcourt is Igweocha ? And who is the Igweocha king or traditional ruler ?

Vicotex:
Port Harcourt's real name is Igweocha.

Igboid groups in rivers state are roughly 70-75%.

Am sure you know how large and populated Egbema and Obia/kpor is.

Don't quote me, i live in PH.


To be honest with you, the Ijaw groups in the entire PH is not up to 3%.
Am not cooking up numbers, go to the said LGA and see for yourself

I really do not want to discuss my land with Igbo people.. I am a PH dude and a PH panicker for that matter . How many Igbo people were among the militants that shut down PH ? If Igbos were important how come they could not cough and be part of action in PH ?. Igbos are just in Ph like they are in Lagos, Kaduna and kano. They are just more at home in Ph cos we accept them.

Vicotex:
Port Harcourt's real name is Igweocha.

Igboid groups in rivers state are roughly 70-75%.

Am sure you know how large and populated Egbema and Obia/kpor is.

Don't quote me, i live in PH.


To be honest with you, the Ijaw groups in the entire PH is not up to 3%.
Am not cooking up numbers, go to the said LGA and see for yourself

Which Port Harcourt is the Igweocha ? Abuloma or woji or Town or Diobu or Borikiri ? LOL you think say Port Harcourt nah one town abi ? Who are the natives that called it Igweocha ? I hope you know every Igbo town has natives and mazi and obi or Eze.. So which Igbo family are the mazi of Igweocha and where is Igweocha cemetery where igweocha people buried their ancestors ?? Answer me oh..

HopeAtHand:
If i sounded hateful, i take that back..

The Kalabaris are actually very good friends with Ikwerres but they sided unjustly with Okrikans when the ought to have stood on the side of truth and justice in the issue of PH.

We acknowledge that land is very scarce in riverine areas and gladly welcome you to live amongst us in brotherhood either in Phalga, Emolga or Obalga..you are always welcome.

Rivers state is for everyone.

I am from Ogbakiri, Emohua.

First of all I doubt you are from Ogbakiri cos a typical Ogbakiri man is almost a Kalabari man unless you either do not know the history or you just don't know.. When Kalabari were trading at Ogbogoro and Ibaa I doubt if there was Ogbakiri community then.. LOL Anyway, thats not the point.. How ever you started a new topic entirely, different from the subject matter..

I do not know if an Ogbakiri man would know anything about Port Harcourt if you do, you d know Kalabari and Okrika were the only two parties fighting over Port Harcourt and the first true war over PH was between Kalabari and Okrika.. There were no Ikwere close to the scene. Infact, the first Ikwere settlement was from mile 3 diobu.. If Ikwere villages were there, the Igbos would not have named all the streets of diobu after Igbo towns. Mind you non was Ikwere .. The Ikwere road that starts from mile one was the road that lead to Ikwere towns and the first Ikwere town was Akpor / Ozuoba to the West while Igwuruta was the first Ikwere town up North.. All the Rumus were formerly Umu and where farmland of Igbo settlers.. . And it is only at the Diobu area that Ikweres can lay claim to land if they really have any there.. The places claimed by Okrika have always been Ijaw areas right from time so that even the colonial masters never knew any Ikwere traditional leader when PH land was taken.. It was Okrika chiefs that had the agreement with the English and was witnessed by Chief Yellow of Bakana.. You can also recall that there were no Ikweres even at any of the schools in PH in both primary and secondary not untill the 1990s.. Port Harcourt cemetery also never had no Ikwere buried there .. So I do not know what Ikwere you think own Port Harcourt that you expected Kalabari people to support .. Kalabari people are angry that they have lost their Saipen land and even eagle island which are all supposed to be BAKANA land.. There were no Ikwere farms in saipen when the place was a forest and it was a KALABARI fruit plucking forest where we also used to go cut trees and firewood.. Rumuolumeni was way way far off and there was one KALABARI fishing port just there by where the NAVY base is today.... Kalabari people lost all that cos of their BAKANA / Buguma rivalry .. So Bro what is the truth you think is lost ? There is also a Tombia settlement close to Ogbakiri which I think is still intact... Ikwere people have never at any time had a quarrel over any of those places with the KALABARI perhaps just because the KALABARI are not making direct claim . Take am easy bro, all the Ikwere governors even from Odili to WIKE have only succeeded cos of Kalabari massive support backed by Kalabari elites if not you know so well they would not get there .

lygn19:
dz kind comment no mk sense all of una na Rivers people o...

Trust me he is not a Rivers man.. He is one of those Igbo people settled in Oyigbo or some where in some Rumu claiming to be Rivers and calling PH Igweocha....LOL they are now close to 500,000 thousand Igbos like that .

HopeAtHand:
You are a Liar if you call Abonnema and Okrika large towns.What is large about Abonnema, that one road village that doesnt even have a decent cemetery..i almost wept at a burial when they literally had to dip up bones of the dead to bury the dead...Or is it Okrika Island that is a little bigger than a football stadium that you call large?..What for goodness sakes?

To have large large towns, you need land, something the Ijaws dont have, matter of fact, their shoreline is receding, making you guys to lose the little you have.

If Ijaws are majority in Rivers, do the talking at the elections and produce Governor...By the time Wike is done it will be 24yrs at the turn of democracy..so much for majority..after drinking Ogogoro, you lots starts living in illusion and doling out crazy population figures that cannot be backed up..

Ikwerre areas already have 1.1Million out of 2.5Million registered voters.come and cintest governorship and win make i see.

What they do not have is land so their towns are not spacious but heavily congested .. Why do you Rivers people hate each other so much ? Even from your words the hatred is obvious. Check out Obuama for instance.. It is just like any other family or compound in Buguma or Abonnema or even Bakana and Tombia.. But because the OBU family settled separately, they were able to occupy spacious land.. There are about 30 of Obuama size families in each of Buguma, Abonnema.. The Briggs family in Abonnema for instance is larger than Obuama by 5 times..... The Braide Family in Bakana is larger than Obuama by close to 6 times. So you judge this thing by the number of ancient major families to be able ot have a good comparison . They mistakenly made Port Harcourt their home . oFcourse back in the day, you ll never even find Ikwere people in Port Harcourt except in their Rumu villages and very few cos many or all the Rumu villages are occupied MAINLY BY NON IKWERES.... I asked you again.. What do you use to determine the population of a people ? Mind you, you said 70% of the Ijaws of Rivers are in PH and Obio Akpor so would you not add those 70% to their Ijaw communities ?... Back in the days Bakana for instance would be completely empty with no young soul in the community except few elderly people . This is due to awareness and civilization. The people would simply go to urban cities like Lagos, Kaduna, Port Harcourt and even go abroad leaving their towns scanty so people like you would see that scantty situation to think the people do not exist.. Where are you from tho ?


LOL People in Rivers state do not vote along tribal lines. Infact it would difficult for Ijaw to produce a governor at this time cos they d rather vote against each other.. The Okrika / Kalabari / Ibani divide would not make them have a consensus candidate.. KALABARI people heavily backed WIKE was why he won.. Mind you My own uncle Chief Ferdy bought his nomination form for him and the first project he completed was ABONNEMA tiny Bridge.. Floor members like you would not understand the Politics of Rivers state . I am even thinking you are an IGBO cos a true Ikwere would not have such hatred against Ijaw.

Lawsimon:
Bros how many LGs do they occupy in River and Delta and what is the population of Beyelsa state? The fact that the Ijaws are found in every riverine areas does not mean they are the most populated in SS. EFIK/ANNANG/IBIBIO is the largest in the SS.

The population of Lagos is about 14 million.. Is it 14 million yoruba people ? The Population of PH is mainly Ijaws apart from non Rivers people there so how would you use Population of LGA to determine the most populous people ?

lygn19:
the igbos are d largest ethnic group in d ss...only if just as d igbo groups in Rivers are united together, if the igbo groups in d entire Ss can be united to form one body they would be d largest.
Despite the fact that ijaws dont travel dat much, Bayelsa is sparsely populated, dont know how ijaws in Bayesla want to outnumber ijaws in other states do the math.

How many places have you been to in Bayelsa before ? Do you know Okpoama, Adum ama ? All the fishing ports are densely populated. You do not know cos you have not been there before. Speculation is bad.

HopeAtHand:
Heard you're from Delta state.

What percantage of delta population is Ijaw.
Bayelsa is Nigerias smallest state in both population and landmass.It will be mischievous if the popultion of Ijaw there exceed 1.2million.

Im from Rivers, before Bayelsa was carved out, we were all in same state..do not be decieved by the 'large Ijaw landmass', its just water that is mostly uninhabited mangroove forests and swamplands except in fishing ports consisting mainly of a few hundred people.so anyone who

More than 70% of Riverine Riverians reside in PHalga and Obalga and Kelga their ancestral towns are mostly small towns inhibited by swampland and mangroove forests.combine all of Rivers Ijaws from Kalabari, Okrika, Bonny, Opobo, Abua, Andoni, Engenni etc, they aren't more than 35% of Rivers poluation.i put them roughly at 1.6million (being very generous here).Rivers and Bayelsa are the two main states you find Ijaws.roughly 2.9 or 3.0million

If you say Ijaws are 10%(15Million), i 'd assume then that Delta state Ijaws make up the deficit.

Ijaw terrian is their greatest advantage.

The largest towns in Rivers state apart from Port Harcourt city are Ijaw towns, Okrika, Buguma, Bonny , Abonnema. Before you can mention Ahoada and Omoku .. No Ikwere town is large. The largest Ikwere towns are Elele and Emohua and they are all more like farm land. . Kalabari , Okrika and Bonny people are the main Rivers people outside Rivers state and else where in USA and Europe.

Ijaw is the largest in Rivers state followed by Ogoni before Ikwere followed by Ogba Egbema, Etche, Ekpeye and Ndoki..

1. Ijaw

2. Efik / Ibibio

3. Ikwere / Etche/ Ogba Egbema

4. Edo

5 Urhobo

6. Anioma

9 Ogoni

10 . Isoko

11. Kwale

12 Itshekiri

emamos:
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/olu-of-warri-passes-on/219475/

R.I.P

ikbnice:
RIP to him. Pls, who has d map of d shortest distance frm Lagos to Warri?. I want to start campaignin to be the next Olu ASAP.
*na joke i dey o*

The next Olu is moving back the seat to Ode Itsekiri the traditional ancient land of the Itshekiri before Awolowo used tribalism moved it to Warri..

The

delishpot:
What dles kengema mean paa si si? I remember a song I heard as a child at home
A minji biri te
A so wari mu ba
Balama
Be ye be ye
Balama
Kengeba
Balama

A minji biri te
A so wari mu ba
Balama oooo

I may have gotten tnbe spellings wrong sha.
Pa si si I wori ma o

.. Bo ye bo ye

Balama

Ah kien anga ba

Balama.

nayeb:
That is nice! Consider that, that your grandmother Nduba whom you wanted to talk so glowingly of, was of Igbo stock, and most likely spoke "Igbotic Kalabari" to use your expression. Ahhaaaa, your freaking schizophrenic multiple personalities show through.

Really when did you become a Bakana person? The last time a Bakana person wrote something here you insulted and told him to go rebuild his vanishing village. You said some unbecoming things that showed you as an ungrateful person for somebody who grew up there. Now you are again a Bakana person because it suits you. I remember telling you in another thread that so long as God blessed me with wealth Bakana will never be wanting because I will invest half my wealth in Bakana. That response was because you were making unkind remarks about Bakana, imputing that Bakana was dying off because of the people history of having fought Amachree, your King.

What I did not tell you, Tom Alabaraba, when I made that statement was that I was also from Bakana, I am also from the bloodline of King Lulu who ruled Bakana after King Igbanibo. Now go figure.

You are one crazed schizophrenic multiple personality dude.

Oh, and if you must know, as a boy I did play Ngia. I even knew how to load it with mud to make it heavy, and even to first put molten lead inside it before covering that up with mud. I am informed on your use of the expression Ngia Kenge, because as the Americans would say "been there done that".

I hope now you know that when I say those expressions have meanings, they, in fact do - it is that you just don't know their meanings. As I have said before, I am Kalabari by blood and you are not. I am Awome by blood and you are not, I learned my Kalabari from the source and I doubt yours because you seem not to know the meanings of those expressions.

There is nothing like Kengemate in Kalabari
There is nothing like Kengeama in Kalabari ...

nayeb:
Now lets consider these:
I am Kalabari by blood, you are not.
I am Awome by Blood, you are not.
My Kalabari learning source is closer to the Origin
Your Kalabari learning source is relatively less close than mine
Your mother Nduba's Kalabari learning source is relatively less close than mine.

So who is likely to know Kalabari language better? You or myself?

Think! Think! Think!

Instead of explaining to the world what you mean by those words you are struggling to deceive yourself..
I am a Bakana man. Born and raised in Bakana and also an Abonnema man..
You are an Abonnema man where Igbotic Kalabari is spoken so I understand why you do not have no good knowledge of both Kalabari history and dialect..

I am sure you also do not know what AN NGIA is if not you d not argue about Kenge and talk about Kengema te.....

nayeb:
You need to take your medication before you respond to me cos your responses are off point..
Or your affliction from your father and grandfather is worse than one thinks or realizes. Your mind seem unable to process complex thoughts, as expressed in complex sentences.

your words go bellow ..


If the Kuro-ame left in the 17th Century, how was it that the Portuguese met them in the 16th Century as per the Portuguese records? BTW I know when, why and how some of the Owerre Daba (and not the non-Owerre Daba Kuro-ame) ended up in Bonny and Tombia, but I am just not telling you that's all. The modern day Tombia people know they are Owerre Daba, and Tombia people have told that just last year.

So you do not know where the KORO AME left from to meet the rest at Torusarama piri ?

I told you, you are one confused old man.
Indeed, complex sentences fog you up: The 16th Century predates the 17th Century. So the Portuguese could not have met the Kalabari Community with Owerre Daba as their King in the 16th Century, if in fact they started the migration in the 17th Century as you assert. Do you get it now? I have previously explained this point to Tom Alabaraba as well, because he too could not understand the time sequencing involved. Does that also tell you something?
The Kuro-ame consisted not only of the Owerre Daba but also of other families, so the statement (and not the non-Owerre Daba Kuro-ame) which floored you, was explaining this fact that you seem unable to comprehend. Further, it was the Owerre Daba group that fractured during the reign of Owerre Daba and not any of the other groups. Hopefully you have got that. Finally, some of the Owerre Daba who left settled at Bonny and Tombia, and some of the modern Tombia people have admitted to being part of that group. Got it now you freaking dumb ass?

The Portuguese MET THE KORO AME at Present day Calabar and documented them so cos the Koro ame people have said they were KALABARI people..
The intensity of your cognitive dissonance is mind numbing

Your other response goes


Torusarama piri was a KE ANGA BE AMA ( Kengema being the adulterated version ).
I will now write some statements I used to make as a boy at play, to further show you up as the daft and ignorant person that you are; and this time I will not give you any explanations:
(1) "Ani kengema"
(2) "Aniye kengeama"
(3) "A kengema te"
This is just to illustrate to you that Kengema has many meanings, the usage of which you have even admitted to being ignorant of.


Bro.. Please give the world the meanings of 1 ,2 ,3... Do not forget you were insisting there is no word like Kenge ...Now you are using the phrase Kenge-ma as a word.......... In KALABARI there is nothing like ANIYE KENGEAMA..... There is also nothing like Kengema te in Kalabari .

I should send you off to your father and grandfather -the fools and mentally deranged derelicts, whose Igbo blood you bear, for them to discover the Kalabari meanings of these words for you. If I told you the meanings you would really hate yourself, even much more; and then may be not, you exude the characteristics of a psychopath.

There is nothing like Kengeama in Kalabari..
There is nothing like Kengema te in Kalabari


There is Kenge te and not Kengema te.. Kenge te means Cracked..