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Alexaonfleek:
I hope you've read the Bible passages I gave you.its not like you'll admit you're wrong anyways.if you want more biblical references on our teachings and doctrines make use of Google or better still feel free to visit any Catholic church near you for further clarification.

Lol. Goodnight. I wish the best for you. I pray the Spirit of God ministers to you tonight and give you understanding of the deep things of His word in Jesus' name (AMEN). I know what you don't know. Deep things. But I understand where you're coming from. It's not surprising.

Goodnight. The love and mercies of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. He will show you things tonight in your dreams like He did to Saul.

midnighter:
I use a manual. anyway why are so against them? why not live and let live

Do you think Jesus Christ hated the Pharisees? Why didn't he just ignore them and focus on His disciples, you know, "live and let's live" things? No, Jesus always criticised them and called them hypocrites and vipers and they hated Jesus for saying the truth and exposing their lies and deceits? If you have the Spirit of God, you will hate every form of satanic manipulations.

midnighter:
But when you tell him and he says "Say 10 Hail marys" What does it do?

To be honest, I tried attending catholic services when i was in school but it wasnt my thing.

It's a demonic incantation directed to a demon called 'Queen of Heaven.'

Read the Bible yourself, my dear. Start from John chapter 1. One chapter a day.

allthingsgood:
You are not telling a person. The priest is Christ's authority on Earth. Why do u take ur troubles to ur pastor But u do that because it's convenient for u. Catholic church is not a place of convenience. It's ways are not your ways. If u want to learn, then come to cathechism

Show me catechism in the Bible.

Show me where Jesus Christ said the Priest (a sinner himself) is Christ's authority on earth.

You may talk to people and seek their advice and prayer, but confession is to God only. They just keep twisting BIble everywhere for these people and they are swallowing them hook, line and sinker.

midnighter:
Well where does it come from and what is it for These things dont just come out from nowhere.. there must be a reason for it

My sister, if I analyse and tell you why the Catholic church was established, you will be shocked. The mass of people that attend have no idea what it is all about. The twisting of the teachings of the Bible is deliberate to lead many people astray and keep them from truly knowing and following God.

LZAA:
Again u miss the point
The catholic church follows the bible and is the church from phich others sprang from
Nobody forces u to be a priest and the rules are clearly stated
How many times have u heard of pastor and wife fighting or divorcing
A lot i bet

Nobody has been able to quote the Bible because you don't know the Bible because they keep the Bible away from you. That summarises everything.

Alexaonfleek:
like I said,please check up your dictionary and try to find the difference between worship and honour.

Mary and the saints are more like people who have sacrified all for God .we hope to be like them too one day.we try as much as we can to emulate their good virtues

As for the idolatry part,I dunno why I have to repeat myself on the fact that we do not worship idols.they are there simply to remind us of the real persons .
I bet you're a pentecostant .I've always wondered myself why you always use the pictures of your pastors inside the church,like are they the owners of the church or what

The part of priests not marrying,it actually has a biblical reference and it is not by force to be a priest.

Catholic church preaches salvation as much as Pentecostal do

QUOTE THE BIBLE. QUOTE THE BIBLE. QUOTE THE BIBLE. (Not dictionary or false history they teach you).

midnighter:
Oh please, thats another thing i forgot to ask.. what really is the purpose of that confession of a thing?

How will you remember every single bad thing you did in the week? Why do you need to tell somebody all your embarrassing secrets...

It's a false teaching. He will not be able to cite anywhere in the Bible that supports or justifies it. The catholic church is full of false teachings and their members rarely have any true relationship with God. Confess your sin to God only and He will cleanse you once and for all!

allthingsgood:
You think confession is easy Smh. Whuy not stop the next stranger on ur way and tell him how u masturbated last night, tell him how u lust after your father's wife or stole your brothers cash. It's u pentecostal that practice religion of convenience. You guys are hypocrites and more or less just fashion and business centers

Quote the Bible, my friend. Oh, you don't know the Bible. Where did Jesus say you should confess to another sinner (your priest). Confess to God, repent and be born again. He will give you His spirit and you will hate sin and don't need to confess again.

Open the Bible and read. Start from John chapter 1. One chapter a day. You will discover the truth yourself.

allthingsgood:
Keep quiet. Who compiled that Bible u are holding You only know of Christianity because of the sacrifices of Catholic church. You these mushroom Pentecostal businesses are funny. Everything u do is out of ignorance. First u criticize then turn around to copy. Smh

Except a man be born again he cannot see the kingdom of God - Jesus Christ.

Are you born again? Do they teach you that in Catholic church? No, you all just go for formality. No real experience with the Spirit or the Word. They teach you lies about history but none of you can quote or back your argument from the Bible. Catholic made sacrifices and compiled the Bible. Lol. Another lie they tell them to stop them from reading the Bible themselves and discovering the truth.

Alexaonfleek:
being a rev.father has its pros and cons.men who decide to be rev.fathers know fully well that they will not have wives or children.
Usually the priest sees the church members as his family or the closest thing he has to a family.

That's why before and during the years of formation the rev.fr has a lot of time to think it over and over.

It's just how it is,just the way you sometimes forfeit one thing in other to achieve another thing in life.i could give you practical examples but we're in a public forum.

Show me where in the Bible that justifies this practice. Where Jesus Christ mentioned it. Not what they told you. Who gave the catholic church authority to be making laws different from the Bible and Jesus teaching

Broad is the way that leads to destruction and narrow is the way that leads to life. Catholic church has a lot of people because it is EASY CHRISTIANITY. Church of convenience. Sin today and go and confess tomorrow. Lol (Another false teaching).

Alexaonfleek:
yep.you said it all.tge answer is in the Bible which we use

Hahahaha. You don't use the Bible. Someone once invited me to a church dedication in a catholic church. I couldn't believe I was in church. Incense everywhere, people reciting some lines and catechism booksetc. No Bible reading. And service was 10 or 15 minutes. Lol.

LZAA:
The catholic church is not losing priests instead it's gaining more
Nobody forces you to become a priest and the church will never change to please the world

The catholic church is not the Bible or Jesus. It cannot make new laws, different from Jesus or the Bible. Don't follow church. Follow the Bible. Read the Bible yourself, not what they tell you.

Alexaonfleek:
funny enough that our traditions are actually gotten from the Bible

No, they aren't. Where do you want to start? Is it the worship of Mary or saints? The statues of idolatry? Where did Jesus mention that people should become priests and not marry? Do you preach being born again, the core message of Jesus? The catholic church making new rules for their members, and challenging the authority of the Bible and Jesus Christ.

midnighter:
Of course I know all those things, but i mean if one decides it is his vocation in life to be a reverend father, its unfair to then make him abandon the idea of having a family to call his own

If somebody feels he is supposed to do something it should not be at the cost of something so important as your wife and kids

You cannot decide not to marry. Celibacy was a gift to Paul. God commands everyone to marry, and not to 'burn' with lust while forcing yourself to stay celibate. I can quote Bible passages to back them up for you. Don't go outside the Bible. Stick to the Bible. They go outside the Bible to try to justify idolatry and so-called 'fatherhood' or 'priesthood.'

Alexaonfleek:
there are a hundred and one things I have to say to u,but the main one I gave to say is that before you call a teaching false,please be sure to have researched deeply into it and ask questions when in doubt

Keep your research to the Bible so as not to be deceived. Your 'fathers' go outside the Bible and look for anything to confuse you and justify what is not in the Bible. Keep to the Bible. Read it yourself. Every answer is in the Bible. The word of God is perfect.

Alexaonfleek:
as for the candles and statues part they are just simply symbolization.the candles signify the presence of the holy spirit present while the statues remind us of who they actually represent i.e the statue of Jesus reminds us of Jesus

Just the same way a picture of your mum will remind you of her

These are grand deceits they dish out to justify demon worship. They would also say 'oh you need to honour the mother of your Lord' when even Jesus shunned his own mum at a point. Lol. Justify your practice by Bible commands, not looking for things in everyday life to glibly explain it away. Read the Bible yourself, not what 'father' tells you.

So many false teachings by the catholic church and this is just one of them. So, so many. And lots of gullible people have been led astray, leading watered-down Christianity. Christianity of convenience.

Their members don't ask them questions for the basis of some of the beliefs in the Bible. When they do, they twist Bible passages to them to convince or tell them it's the only church established by Jesus. Lol (Another false teaching). In fact, their members don't read or know the Bible, Their so-called fathers (another false teaching) have stylishly replaced the Bible with Cathechism and mass of incense (another false teaching). What about the name, 'the Queen of Heaven,' a demon they deceive them to think is Mary?

Madam, LOVE is gentle. LOVE is respectful. LOVE Iis patient. LOVE considers the partner's care and convenience before thier one. MONEY is not LOVE. GIVING is not LOVE (It can be for show off).

I wish I could stop with these lines because they summarise everything you've raised, but I guess you get the point. LOVE has a lot of counterfeits that confuse people for the real thing during dating/courtship. It's one of the major (but not only - money, habits; but these are trivial where original LOVE exists) reasons marriages suffer and pack up easily (divorce).

The irony is that the counterfeits of LOVE are often fiercer in action and seek people's attention and approval. The original one just seeks each other's approval, understand and like each other like bosom friends.

Find the one singular person he listens to (everyone has. Or every normal person has). That he respects and cannot go against his/her words. Let the person be the mediator. Your father is a man like your husband, is older and wiser and knows/sees what you all can't. He probably never approved of him in the first place (courtship). He can see 100 while you all are trying to count 1 to 10.

Don't brood too much over what has happened. Everyone has something in the past they wish they could change, so don't beat yourself up.

My point? Never, ever terminate the pregnancy. Keep the child and let your wife have him/her. Just be careful next time. Actually, I know you'll be automatically. That's what makes us better, more experienced, mature people - By learning from mistakes.

You'll give sex less attention unlike before and realise it's just a side benefit of marriage and that the most important is friendship/companionship/partnership for mental, financial, and material growth.

If you go ahead to abort it, the consequences in the future may be severe as some have already cautioned you.

Besides, check the first and second born kids in most families. You'll notice the age difference is usually 1 or 2. It's the excitement of a new marriage. It's happened a lot of time to new couples/parents.

Cheers.

Wow. What is that up there by the @AfroNoGoDie moniker? Seun, Nairaland site security is porous and paedophiles and morally depraved people like afronogodie can spam it. You need to find a way, Seun. Don't let them kill a project you spent years to build plus huge investments in time, energy and money.

To the topic, it's sad Samuel Kalu and Aina are injured and out of this game. I rate Samuel Kalu particularly high.