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MrPresident1:
Sisterme, good morning.

Come and read

My dear, I have read through the thread and honestly i do not know what the message here is. Seriously sha ehn, we all need help oo, but you need a lot of of it... " he who does not know, and does not know that he does not know, and is so certain that he knows...is in for a big shock". I pray you repent and allow yourself to be led aright through the Word of the Lord for today.

MDGsVISIBLE I am sorry this is coming so late. Was a little busy today but here goes:

Matt 1:17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.

I think its just makiing an observation about the perfect order in which Christ came. I dont think there is any other special meaning to it except maybe I am missing something.

1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great LovePeddler that sitteth upon many waters:

If you read my other thread on Isaiah 4: 1, you know that a woman represents the church or wife of Christ. So this is a very great church..hint hint Roman Catholicism?

2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication,

unwholesome fellowship, secret deals..which church has ambassadors from almost all nations?

and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

Yes, wine in Bible parlance means doctrine. he world believes that she is indeed God's authority on earth, yet her doctrine is not provided by God,so she is in fornication.

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: 5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

A beast in the Bible means a power. This church is riding on the power of a bloody beast, which is the Devil personified in the ancient Roman Empire which merged with the Catholic church in the days of Constantine the great to become the Holy Roman Catholic church. She is very very rich, holds most of the gold of the world through years of deceit and robbing the people through various deceitful schemes. her cup holds her abominable doctrines, many of which I wont bother to mention here. She is guilty of the killing and death of an estimated 68 million saints over the years. She is a mother that has produced children churches that are now exactly like her, doing the same things she is guilty of. She is even the brain behind Islam {according to Alberto Riviera}

to be continued....

Oaroloye, God knows who will be saved:

2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

And He knows all things:

John 21:17 - He saith unto him the third time, Simon, [son] of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

Isaiah 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

That should be enough for you to chew on for a long time.

twosquare:
yea yea..almost run over. We've asked Seun for a Christian section but he is still adamant. So much for the enemies of the faith.

Signs of the times...no sitting on the fence again, every now has to take a side..even Seun (political. Correctness).

MDGsVISIBLE:
I am so blessed with these revelation. God bless yu sisterMe. I read Rev 17 of recent & thot of Clinton & US came to My mind...pls share more light on Rev 17.
Pls share more light on Mattew 1 vs 17..fourteen generation after Christ will b wheN...
ThankS

God bless you my dear..its good to know its not all hate around..there are still a few reasonable people interested in adding to what they know already. I will try in my own little way to say what I know about the verses you quoted above. Many things I don't know, but at least I get the general picture..so..in a moment:

Hey two square , long time..I 've been around, just only recently mustered enough drive and interest to start posting on Nairaland again. The religion section now is almost completely run over with non - christian posts. Anyway, I am back..maybe we can spice up things around here a little bit

twosquare:
Hey, where have you been all these days. I miss you.

oaroloye. There is an old adage that if you give a cow a long enough rope, it will tie itself up. You have succeeded in doing just that in the eyes of hard core unbelievers talk less of the average christian today. Its a pity. I wish you all the best.

My dear, its a free world. You can believe whatever you will, but remember that whatever decisions you take, there will be consequences awaiting you.

datyrone:
this was how they said obama being the first black president of america (which proved that america was gradually rising above racial prejudices)was the antichrist...how he will microchip data for human beings on their foreheads and that would be the 666 mark.now the dust has settled they have cooked up sensational journalism once again nowthat its obvious a woman is going to be the next president after obama(which proves that america is gradually rising above its gender prejudices).

someone from somewhere is always brought to the fore with some predictions...we saw it during obamas era now its brewing again.fate and luck make things we never imagined to happen.the last two candidates of the republican party has made it possible for the democratic candidates to be more appealling to the masses.luck just placed obama and clinton at the right era to achieve their dreams

then someone wud suddenly cook some sensational stories...its the sa.
me cycle all over again.

am sure if chelsea clinton runs for president some day,since its something highly unsual and historic...another seer would suddenly spring up with some funny premonitions

Beloved, if the rapture were to hit this very minute, the Bible says there will be another 3.5 years of tribulation before Christ will come to reign physically. And after that, another 1000 years of peace, the 7th day, of the reign of Christ on earth. You are wrong, beloved, scripture can not be broken.

You may be needing another moniker come February 2017 ( if the Lord tarries).

MrPresident1:
My friend, this thing will do you like film if you are not careful

I never said the American elections would not hold, I said the end of this [/i]world would come- 1st week of October 2016, or last last final final 20th January 2017.

The 1st week of October closed with a very strong sign- Hurricane Mathew where 2m people had to be evacuated in Florida (signs in heaven, America being the heaven of [i]this world Luke 21:25).

Now, the very summary of my prophecy is that Hitlery will not be president and Trump will not be president, and dateline for the completion of all things is 20th January 2017 . I probably do not have an idea what will happen in between, but this is the prophecy.

Watch as things play out. And remember-you were warned

Yes, I believe this scripture applies pre and post rapture,
as it currently applies now, and will apply post rapture because during the tribulation, there will be some who would realise they have been left behind, but very very many would still go on going to church and carrying on believing the rapture yet to come. Just exactly as happened pre and post the first coming of Christ.

collinsfhk:
Pls bring mre clarifications as regards your post rapture stand. I personally believed it is hre already and continues thrfater.


I think Phil 3:17-19 come s to play hre

Hello beloved, I saved my response to your post for last because your post needed a detailed response. I shall try to address some of the issues you raised.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!

I have not bothered to read through this post, because I immediately recognized it as the Teachings of the American False Prophet, WILLIAM MARRION BRANHAM.

The deceitful nature of the followers of this FAKE PENTECOSTAL is proven by the opening statement:



WILLIAM BRANHAM DIED IN 1965.

How therefore is it possible to obtain anyone's "permission" to copy his Teachings?

You display poor reading comprehension abilities here. That is not bad in itself, but when you go ahead to speak based on what you gleaned without pausing to get the bigger picture, it becomes an avoidable and foolish error. Did anyone say permission was obtained from Branham to copy his writing? Did William Branham write this? Did you even bother to ask who wrote the article?

[color=#ffffff]. PROVERBS 26:24-28.

24. He that hateth dissembleth
with his lips,
and layeth up deceit
within him;
25. When he speaketh fair,
believe him not:
for (there are)
seven Abominations in his heart.
26. (Whose) hatred is
covered by Deceit,
his Wickedness shall be shewed
before the (whole) Congregation.
27. Whoso diggeth a pit
shall fall therein:
and he that rolleth a stone,
it will return upon him.
28. A lying tongue hateth
(those that are) afflicted by it;
and a Flattering Mouth
worketh Ruin.

WELL, BY HIDING THE FACT THAT WILLIAM BRANHAM ASKED HIS FOLLOWERS TO DISTRIBUTE HIS TEACHINGS, ONE COULD SAY THAT ONE HAD HIS PERMISSION.



I have been a BORN AGAIN, FULL-GOSPEL, PENTECOSTAL Christian for 35 Years.

Back then, these people were the Bottom-Feeders of Christianity. They received huge shipments of William Branham's Sermon Pamphlets.

We were warned to steer clear of their Movement- but the REAL reasons were not touched upon: namely that he was ANTI-ROMAN CATHOLIC, and they who were telling us to stay away from him were not.

He was against the Roman Catholic System, but not the Roman catholic people. - big difference there.

It was not until I had become disillusioned with the False Nature of
"Evangelical" Christianity, in 1985, that I decided to read his Teachings myself, and see what the fuss was about.

It was fortunate that, by that time, I had learned to judge everything by The Law of Moses and The Gospel Teachings of Yahshua himself. Therefore, I was immune from confusion.

The KEY Doctrine that enabled the "mainline" churches to MARGINALIZE "BRANHANISM" was the UNITARIAN HERESY- which states that "THERE IS NO GOD, BUT JESUS ONLY!"

Branham did not teach it that way. He opposed the "Jesus only" teachers, insisting that Jesus had a Father, which He did. But what exactly was the relationship between Jesus and His Father? Is Jesus the Son because He "came out of" the Father ( formed from, etc) or does Jesus and the Father sit at a table to discuss? That is where he taught it different, as indeed the Bible teaches. That God formed Himself into a mortal form that could die (Jesus) and dwelt fully in that flesh. And when redemption is all over, all that will be left is God and His children. This debunked the popular theology that God is three distinct personalities in One, ( the Trinity) a belief pioneered by Roman Catholicism, and inherited by her daughters and grand daughters ( Lutherans, Methodists,, Anglican, Redeemed, Deeper Life, Winners,TREM Christ Embassy, Synagogue...and the list goes on.) Trinitarianism, is an identifying mark of "mystery Babylon the great, the mother of h.a.r.lo.ts and abominations of the earth" which the scripture records in the Book of Revelations that it will be destroyed.[/quote]

It is iMPOSSIBLE for Yahshua and his Disciples to have Taught such a Doctrine. They would have ALL been summarily executed! The Jews could never have tolerated THAT.

Those people who believe it therefore believe YAHSHUA was a COWARD, who had Secret Teachings about himself, that he dare not preach publicly.

What does that say about those who would believe such a thing of The son of God?

Though I have clarified the real teaching above, what I have said is just as unacceptable to the Jews, if not even worse, than what you adduced above. Christ had a job to do, and He needed to do it with as little distraction as possible, so he always spoke to the people in parables which He interpreted to His disciples in private. However, once in a while, He would let the cat out of the bag, that He and the Father were one. The Jews knew what that meant, because, they know there is no other God but Jehovah. That is why they picked up stones to stone Christ when He said that.John 10:30 I and my Father are one. 10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

Most disgusting is their belief in PREDESTINATION.

The idea that GOD ALREADY KNOWS EVERYTHING that will ever take place- therefore trying to SAVE people is USELESS.

Common sense tells us that God knows everything, including who will and will not be saved. But He keeps that knowledge to Himself. He asks that the gospel be preached, knowing that only those whom He knows will be saved, would believe it. Nowhere is it implied to give up on anyone for the simple reason that God has not shared His predestination knowledge with His children. Evangelism has to be done as hard as ever because the evangelist does not know who will, or will not be saved.

Any person who believes in William Branham is surely saved, while those who reject him were always lost.

Not true. If you believe and practice the Bible by the Spirit of God, you will be saved, whether you know Branham's teachings or not. The problem is, how often do you find someone who does not believe the Trinity doctrine, is baptised in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ ( not in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost), baptised in the Holy Ghost, does not believe in trouser cross dressing, does not believe in makeup, does not believe in short dresses and revealing clothes, does not believe in divorce and remarriage and so on, that has not studied at the feet of someone who believes the biblical teachings of William Braham? It is very very very rare indeed, but wherever such a person is found, he or she is a rapture candidate, for that is what it will take in this last age. Other ages, like the Lutheran, Wesley age, will be judged by what God revealed in their day, not by the standard of our day.

Brethren who were once zealous in preaching The Gospel become useless. All because of the idea that GOD HAS PRESELECTED those who will/will not be Saved- and nothing can be done about it!

I presume this means the same concerning PREDICTED TRAGEDIES- such as Natural Disasters, and Wars.

. EZEKIEL 3:20.

20. "Again, When a Righteous man doth turn from his Righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his Sin, and his Righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand."

Anyone claiming to believe Branham's teachings and doing that, is misunderstanding the correct and biblical teachings of William Marrion Branham.

We are all fools you know. It just depends on whose fool you are. I am a fool for Christ. Whose fool are you?

Lennycool:
Guy leave them. Didn't they say the same thing about Obama, I heard he was the Antichrist. Now he's gone and they move to the next. Jobless fools

God bless you beloved. Jesus is the only way out.
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call. 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

ajoo17:
If it is God, it will surely come to pass except if it is not God. However, I tend to believe that quickly than we expect, some of these things will come to pass especially on the issue of LGBT(lesbian, Gay, bisexual & transgender). Pls watch out & if that comes to pass then prepare to see the rest coming.
What's d way out? Just accept Jesus as your Lord & Saviour. Then you are saved & follow him & do his will.
Thanks & God bless you.

The sad part is that the US believes they are invisible. Not realising that Russia has both the nerves and the incentive to strike first. The unspoken agreement was that neither party will try to stop each others nukes with missile interceptors like patriot missiles etc. As long as this balance is there and they both mentain their nuclear triad of land ,air and sea nuclear capabilities, M.A.D. ( mutually assured destruction) would keep each other from pressing the red button. But now, Russia is jittery because the US under Obama, is activating a missile shield in Europe. They say it is to protect western Europe from rogue states like North Korea and Iran, but Russia does not see it that way. They see it as an attempt by the US to make a nuclear war winnable. So, sooner or later, they will prefer to strike first once they feel their nuclear deterrent is loosing its biting edge.

zzzzy:
The possibility of a war between the Us and Russia is already clear, she's already blaming Russia for hacks and criticizing putin.

Those prophecies did not come from a Word prophet. Sooner or later, it was bound to fail. The substance of the article is based on the prophecy of Word prophet. That part of it can not fail - a woman is going to rule the US. Will that person be the last US president? - that is not spoken explicitly anywhere, so, the writer of the article can be wrong..but looking at events and how they stack up,, it is 99.99% likely to be the case, considering how the timing rhymes with the resurgence of Putin's Russia and their new found nuclear rhetoric plus Hillary's penchant for war, it does not take much to see where this is all headed, except you choose to bury your head in the sand.

Not one of William Marrion Branham' s prophecies ever failed. Not one. In public or in private. Why? He was a Word prophet like Moses. God talked with Him mouth to ear to reveal what we need to know and do, to be ready for His coming. So read up his transcribed sermons online and see for yourself.

All he preached, were soundly biblical cal, and never drew attention to himself. You know that' s not what many pastors of today do.

rottennaija:
You know, I have seen application of prophecies like this before. Im a jw and I have seen how the book of revelation has been made to apply to our day. So many prophecies and interpretations just like this.

But they all failed. So, what was missing?

Beloved, no one in that article said they saw vision. It was just attempting to stack up current events and see how they relate to known prophecies. Now that is allowed as a human is it not? I think the caveat is good. It makes you know, that there is no attempt here to claim superior knowledge. It acknowledges their humanity,and that they are not claiming that God told them so, just inferences from study.

If God has not said it, they can not make up their minds..however, you can look at the clouds and say "its going to rain today" and 9 times out of 10, be right. Does one need to be a prophet to do that?

Matthew 16:2 He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red. 16:3 And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?

NPComplete:
Another nonsense.
Hopefully Hillary Clinton becomes president and I can sit back and watch another useless prophesy come to naught.
They even appended a caveat to the end of the delirium they called a vision and ended up muddling everything up so that it isn't definitive. That way if the vision fails, as it sure will, they can adjust parameters and claim something else is what the vision means. Make up ur minds!!!

God bless you too.

collinsfhk:
Thanks nd stay blessed

Study study study, dear. Whoever said it was Obama ignored the the Branham prophecy that a woman president of the USA was coming.

Audray:
Really? Smh. Before it was Obama now it has somehow shifted to Clinton.

Well, if there ever was a contradiction, this is it. What am I doing here ? Proselytising of course.. . But I am doing it with the knowledge that majority will never believe it. I am doing it, knowing there is a child of God somewhere on Nairaland who is fed up with all the hypocrisy of very very many churches in Nigeria, and is looking for the real Truth which can be proven from the scripture.That is what evangelism is all about - finding the lost sheep of God. Every body is not a sheep, some are goats, and you know them by their words, though sometimes, sheep are misled by goats to the slaughter- and start blabbing like goats: sooner or later however, their realise their folly and behave like sheep again.

If God does not know the end from the beginning, then He can not be called God. Predestination means that because. God foreknew, so He called,He justified,, He glorified etc.

[b]Romans 9:10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac; 9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth 9:12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. 9:17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. 9:19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? 9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: 9:23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,[/b]


You can't cut out the above scripture from the Bible. It's there beloved.

Ranchhoddas:
William Branham preached predestination. What's the point of proselytizing if the saved are already pre-determined.

Ha ha...unfounded prophecies...okay let's be watching. I am not a prophet oo, but at least when I see something that is proven true, I believe it. Not one of William Branham's hundreds of thousands of visions ever failed..not one. Don't mind those grumbling William Branham haters online; the world ( that includes churches that reject Truth - like the Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes,Essenes in Jesus' day) has always hated the Truth, and will do anything to discredit and kill it, but true children of God are always able to see through the lies of the children of Cain, who was the son of the Evil one.

1 John 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

They slay today with their tongues,, through their keyboards. It won't be long now, they will revert back to physical killings for blood, just like Boko Haram and the Mother W.ho.re used to do in the Inquisitions, and they will think they are doing God a service.

Ranchhoddas:
I know. I was talking about something else. He also loves unfounded prophecies.

You can read a whole lot more of this yourself here:
http://www.en.branham.ru. Browse to sermons and pick any that attracts your fancy.

collinsfhk:
please I need mre of this

What you are saying is tantamount to me asking you to forget about your upcoming October salary ( if you are expecting one). Its an unreasonable request because you have penned a lot of things you want to do with that salary.

stonemasonn:
You guys should forget about this rapture thing, it is an unnecessary distraction. Focus on what is at hand "your life" and live a positive life, a life of love and peace...that is Jesus's basic teachings. That's all.

Hello beloved, I am not MrPresident1

Ranchhoddas:
Oga. Elections don reach o. No sign of your prophecy at all.

How sad...even for basic university academic papers, talk less of soul matters, wikipedia comments are never admissible. You just picked a wikipedia comment and ran with it., just ascmany will pick the negative reviews of Branham from his detractors online and run with it. It shows that you are not a detail oriented person and would not even bother to investigate deeply before condemning, if you heard just hearsay, that your spouse cheated on you.

Well, just to dissapoint you, It is certain that by 2625, the Lord Jesus would be ruling the world from Jerusalem. You know why?, because the Bible is the absolute inerrant Word of God, and in it, Jesus Christ Himself said :
Matthew 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be ffulfilled.

By scriptures, which I will not bother to quote now, Israel is the fig tree. It began to bud again in 1947-48 after being cut down in AD 70. Jesus therefore meant that the generation that sees this event come to pass, will not expire till the preceding events of Matt 24 ( which includes the tribulation after the rapture) all come to pass. The last of the founding fathers of the nation of Israel , Shimon Peres, passed away a few weeks ago at about 90 years of age. There must be very very few of such left alive now, so like it or not, the end of modern civilisation is right before us.

For the record, try to disprove that those 7 prophecies did not happen. The writer of the article did not claim to know exactly the timeline, but a close approximate, that's why there was a caveat at the end of the article.

otemanuduno:
Let me save this page for the humans to exist in the year 2625 and after. They will see it and laugh our generation to scorn. I wonder the excuse the christians of that time would give when the supposed Jesus wouldn't arrive as always being predicted.

Here is a statement from wikipedia about Branham:


My advice: if a pastor pronounced that you are already healed of cancer, AIDS, etc, pls go far away to do medical check up(maybe in another State) . If you do it near, the doctor will tell you that indeed you are healed(because nearby doctors are bought over by pastors to pronounce people healed when they are not).

Well dear, William Branham gave the prophecy, he did not know who or what it would fulfill upon. But now , these modern events are being made clear by prophecy. Incidentally, he preached a sermon titled exactly that "Modern Events Made Clear by prophecy" , which can be read here: [url]
http://branham.ru/message/messagebdc9.html?sermonum=1122[/url]

Ranchhoddas:
William Branham abi? It makes sense now.

My dearly beloved, humility is one of the first hallmarks of greatness. Mark 12:34 ..... Thou art not far from the kingdom of God.

ever811:
iam one who love to admit when I discover iam wrong I actually went back and read your post and wish I had Read b/4 commenting...I always know that America (USA) occupy a very interesting bible prophecy... thanks

Money, my dear, is not "much". In fact money is precious "little". If you have a lot of money like Dangote, you are still little. Gold, is what the streets of heaven are paved with, and true Christians are seated in heavenly places in Christ Jesus (treading on gold).

ever811:
so reading all this is what made dangote what he is today abi?..

I am so sorry my dear..just so sorry...with such an attitude, you can never amount to much. What a pitiful waste.

ever811:
how can I read all this?..I dey craze ni?...

My dear, I have read through it and though the writers are sincere and mean well, it is riddled with plenty plenty errors that are just too many to start tackling one by one. but I will say this, Joseph the dreamer was a perfect type of Christ. He married a gentile bride (like Jesus and his Gentile bride), but when he wanted to reveal himself to his brothers when they came to meet him in Egypt, he caused everyone, including his gentile bride to go (rapture) into the inner chamber (heaven) while he revealed himself (gospel going back to the jews) to his brethren ( 3.5 years, just as Jesus did when he came first for 3.5 years, to complete Daniel's 70 weeks). Chew on that for a while, and if you need to read backup material on this, let me know.

DoctorAlien:
SisterMe, please discover the true teachings of Bible on rapture here.

My dear, the rapture is different from the Second Coming of Christ It precedes the second coming by 3.5 years according to the Bible. Only a precious few (relatively) living will make the rapture, after which some time of tribulation for the world and the left-behind foolish virgins, while the Gospel returns to the Jews. These are all supported by the scriptures. As for date- setting, Christ did say no man knows the day nor hour, but he never said no man knows the month or year ... I am not saying I know oooo....but just a point to think about...Besides, there is no date-setting here.

DoctorAlien:
I was flowing until I got to the point where you said some prophecies would be fulfilled after the rapture. A careful study of the Bible will reveal that nobody will remain on earth after rapture: the saints will go up with Christ while the wicked are slain by the brightness of His coming(2 Thess. 2:8 ).

Also, let us be wary of date-setting. "...But of that day and hour knoweth no man..." (Matt. 24:36).

Ha..my dear, you definitely would not want to be here when the latter part of this "is seen"...

rottennaija:
Seams like a clever maneuvering of the book of revelation. Anyway, it will be seen

Hello dears, the following article is copied with permission. Please read it carefully.

As at the time of writing (three weeks before the US elections) virtually all relevant and influential polls were indicating that Mrs Clinton would win the US presidential elections. Her impending win has been helped by the unpredictable and scandalous history of her opponent , business maverick Donald Trump. Week after week had seen electorally damning reports casting Mr Donald Trump in very bad light with the segment of voters he needed to win over the most :the women and to a lesser extent the Latinos. No miracle is expected at this point, as it is all but certain, by the facts on the ground as at the time of this writing, that Hillary Clinton is going to be the next President of the United States of America, becoming the first ever female President.

These events are no surprise to prophecy watchers who have for many years, watched the 1933 visions and prophecies of the Late Reverend William Marrion Branham unfold into reality. In 1933, Bro William Branham received a vision of seven events that were to occur before the second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. The visions are detailed hereafter thus:
Vision One:
He saw in a vision that the dictator of Italy, Benito Mussolini, would invade Ethiopia and according to the voice speaking to him, Ethiopia “would fall at his (Mussolini’s) steps”. However, the voice continued and prophesied a dread end of the dictator, for he would have a horrible death and his own people would literally spit on him.
Vision Two:
The next vision indicated America would be drawn into a world war against Germany which would be headed up by the Austrian, Adolph Hitler. The voice predicted that this terrible war would overthrow Hitler and he would come to a mysterious “end”. In this vision he was shown the Siegfried line whereat a great toll of American lives would be exacted, but Hitler would be defeated.
It might be well to mention here that a subsequent vision relative to this war predicted that President Roosevelt would declare war against Germany and in so doing would eventually be elected for a fourth term.
Vision Three:
The third part of the vision showed that though there were three ISMS, Fascism, Nazism, Communism in the world: that the first two would come to nothing but that Communism would flourish. The voice admonished him to keep his eyes on “Russia” concerning future involvements, for Fascism and Nazism would end up in Communism.
Vision Four:
The fourth vision that appeared to him was one in which there was predicted to be tremendous technological advances right after the war. This was symbolized by an egg shaped car with a plastic bubble roof, going down beautiful highways completely under perfect remote control. There was no steering wheel in the car and the occupants of the car appeared to be playing a game like checkers.
Vision Five:
The fifth scene that appeared involved the womanhood of the world. In this scene there appeared the fast moral decay of women. Starting back when she received her so-called liberty to enter into worldly affairs by means of the vote, she soon began to wear clothes that were too revealing. She bobbed her hair and adopted the clothing of men. Finally the vision showed her all but stripped naked and she merely covered herself with a tiny apron about the size and shape of a fig leaf. With her womanhood so little valued, a terrible decay of all flesh came upon the earth and with it perversion even as set forth by the Word of God.
Vision Six:
Then there arose in the United States a most beautiful woman clothed in splendour, and great power was given to her. She was lovely of feature but there was a hardness about her that defied description. Beautiful as she was, she was yet cruel, wicked and cunning. She dominated the land with her authority, she had complete power over the people. The vision indicated that either such a woman would literally arise or that this woman of the vision was merely a type of an organization which is scripturally characterized by a female. Though the voice did not speak out and reveal who she was, he felt in his heart that this woman represented the rising Roman Catholic Church, and he inserted in parenthesis beside at the end of this vision which he had written out, (perhaps the Catholic church).
Vision Seven:
The voice bade him look once more. As he turned and beheld, a great explosion rent the entire land, and left the land of America a smouldering, chaotic ruin. As far as the eye could see there was naught but craters, smoking piles of debris, and no humanity in sight.
The vision then faded away.

Visions 1-5 have come to pass. Of concern to us now is vision 6 and 7. As things are going now, vision 6 will be fulfilled as from January 20th 2017, when Hillary Clinton takes office. Vision 7, the annihilation of the US will only be a few years down the road after the rapture, during the reign of Hillary Clinton. Bro William Branham also said that the woman that would rise, would be a liar and would lead the nation to ruins: doing so under the influence of women. This implies that the fulfilment of the seventh vision , the bombing out of the US with nuclear weapons by ostensibly no other country but Russia, will be under her watch. One only needs to read the signs from current events already taking shape to see this timetable ahead of us.

As the elections progress, it is expected that her landslide win, will also help wrest control of the US Senate and House of Representatives from Republican to Democrat control. With that playing out, very quickly, she will appoint homosexual friendly Supreme Court justices that will enable the alteration through interpretation, of the US constitution to criminalise any speech against homosexuals, even in churches. She has already said herself that “Laws have to be backed up with resources and political will. And deep-seated cultural codes, religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed”. Very quickly, Christians will be persecuted in the US after she wins and the US being a model that the rest of the world copies, this persecution will be replicated in many other nations perhaps through the influence of the United Nations.

Revelations from leaked emails and from previous staffers during the Bill Clinton (husband of Hillary Clinton) era as the US president and as Governor of Arkansas, indeed reveal that Hillary Clinton has a policy of maintaining two positions for many issues; one for the public and one for her cronies. They also reveal her to be highly temperamental and subject to fits of rage that could often be violent. This information , among other more damning expositions about her character, coupled with her hawkish war-mongering posture with which she has openly declared that she will confront Russia militarily has made the government of Russia and indeed many Russians come to the conclusion that nuclear war is inevitable if Hillary Clinton wins. This has been further supported by statements from credible Russian semi-official sources that the US should prepare for nuclear war, if Hillary Clinton wins the presidential election. Given Russia’s recent revision of their nuclear war doctrine to strike first at any perceived existential threat, the consternation among many western pundits was great on October 12th when a report was discovered on a Russian website which said that the Russian government had unofficially asked the Russian elite and government workers to repatriate their families or children abroad back to the Russian motherland. Analysts concluded that this was a warning that had the undertones of the possibility of nuclear war in the immediate future.

Russia currently has the most advanced arsenal of nuclear capable intercontinental ballistic missiles. Their newly deployed Bulava ICBM’s carry sixteen independently targeted nuclear warheads that deploy mid-flight. These missiles have built in advanced systems which they boast, are capable of defeating any missile interception system in the world. Meanwhile, the conflict between Russia and the US over various issues , but captured in the Syrian imbroglio has been steadily deteriorating to the point of the risk of a Russian attack on US air force aircraft operating in the Syrian airspace. The US and allied countries coalition military aircrafts conducting operations in Syria are now armed with Air-to-Air missiles for any potential military engagements with Russian or Syrian military aircraft. Russia also has activated multiple advanced air defence Surface-to Air missiles and has threatened to shoot out of the skies , any coalition aircraft that attacks the Syrian army operations in Syria. Now the nuclear conflict between the US and Russia cannot happen yet, according to the Holy Bible. Certain scriptures must be fulfilled first. Revelations 13:11-12 says “11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. 15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.”

The beast spoken of in the verses above is the US. The “first beast” is the Roman Catholic Empire. The “image unto the beast” is the confederation of churches, to which all churches must subscribe to, or they will not be able to “buy or sell” or in effect , carry out their trade, which is preaching the gospel. The mark on the right hand and forehead represents a spiritual mark for those who agree (in their head) to believe a worldly accommodation doctrine-for example not condemning LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender) and act accordingly (with their hands-actions). This scripture fulfils completely during the 3.5 year tribulation period after the rapture. Obviously, Hillary Clinton will preside over the strict implementation of these laws. The statement quoted earlier in this article credited to her portends this. This implies therefore that the Rapture will be sometime, early in her tenure. With the current nuclear tensions, someone will have to be successful at de-escalating those tensions to allow the above scripture to fulfil completely. That person will also somehow, be able to simultaneously solve the impending worldwide economic crises which some analysts say will hit the world at about the time Hillary Clinton takes office. This is entirely plausible as the whole world is currently under great economic stress and strain due to the strength of the US Dollar. Yet, the US Monetary Policy Committee needs to increase their interest rates (they have not done so for almost 10 years) around the time of Hilary Clinton’s swearing in to stave off inflation, thereby assuring further Dollar strength and consequently more economic woe for the world. We propose that person will be the prophesied man of sin, the AntiChrist, personified in the office of the Pope of the Roman Catholic church, who publicly or secretly, will broker peace and safety, albeit for a short time, by some sort of agreement that also brings some sort of peace between Israel and her Arab Palestinian neighbours. Daniel 12:7 tells us that this “power of the holy people” shall be scattered after 3.5 years. It is ostensibly, the breaking of this agreement that would lead to the bombing of the Vatican with a nuclear bomb, as prophesied in Rev 18:17. The bombing of the US will also of necessity be at about the same time, since Italy, where the Vatican is situated, is a NATO country. Russia and possibly China, are the only countries willing and able to use the nuclear bomb in this way. From January 2017, there is a six year window for all these things to begin (the rapture) to happen (deduced from our article in this issue titled “the Laodicean Age lifespan”) and since Hillary can only serve for a maximum of eight years according to the US constitution, these things would commence during the first six years of her reign. Couple this knowledge with the expected practical monumental shift in the status of Jerusalem and the Temple Mount in 2017, as presaged through significant events regarding these places that occurred with 50 year intervals from 1917 and 1967, this shift being nothing other than some agreement that allows restart of the Jewish Temple worship in Jerusalem; we see then that the rapture may very well be in 2017 as well as the start of the 3.5 year tribulation period that ends with nuclear war and the Second Coming of Christ.

Outgoing President Barack Obama had maintained a policy of Russian appeasement, ostensibly to avoid clashing with Russia. From the foregoing and since Hillary Clinton has determined to alter the status quo by directly confronting Russia on all fronts, it becomes evident why we believe she will be the last US president: considering also how her inauguration in January 2017 is in line with other prophecies of the end time. As we would always say, we are human and could be wrong in our anticipations of the timing of events that are to be or even some of the events themselves. So we encourage that we go on living as if the world will not end in many years to come, but live as though Christ will return any moment.