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Denko2721987:
Oga some people just want to leave the world at the end of the day on their own terms iand not necessarily due to any burdens. I know it's difficult to understand but yeah, that's the reality and diversity of thought amongst different people. Not all suicide deaths are becos of depression.. Some people just probably figured within themselves that life has no meaning or that the are playing the chess games of divine beings who would just trash them in the dustin of the cosmos and decide to end that game after all none of us were invited before joining this game of life. Some people get fulfilled and then get bored and decide to end it. Some believe ending their current lives will reset them back into another via reincarnation and so forth. The proliferation of so many school of thought will give rise to deaths like this unfortunately.

DeepSight:
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You know nothing, Jon Snow.
I will not get into this subject with any closed minded person.

DeepSight:
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Shallow. You dont know anything about life.
Go and study the principles behind Euthanasia.

That said, everyone is perfectly entitled to decide they no longer wish to live.

grandstar:
That's a tough one.

I would most likely be in a nuthouse

I'm really serious.

grandstar:
It is best to leave a note. Loved ones will get closure.

If there should be a candidate for suicide, I should be no.1

I suffer from crippling social anxiety. I also suffer from trauma and depression. Many things stop me from taking my life iand one is the unbearable pain to your loved ones. It is also contagious. When another family member goes through difficult times, the next thing na sniper.

The prime reason why I stay alive is that the Bible assures us: "But God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear, but along with the temptation he will also make the way out so that you may be able to endure it." (1 Corinthians 10:13)

Since God will not allow us to be tempted beyond what we can bear, that means no suffering or temptation that I am presently facing is beyond what I can bear. So, why commit suicide? Taking one's life is equivalent of either calling Him a liar, or I lack faith.

He also assures us he will make a way out! That's the one I need to apply more.

For help with suicides, this article will help:https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/g201404/go-on-living-change/

Biodun1929:
In the end, the friends will forget about him and move on...but he is free now...free from the depression and all he was going through. If you dont want to be here anymore why he here and be miserable? If you feel his death will affect people, there will always be something that will make people sad in this world. But sadness is not permanent.

Vikto17:
You still speaking off topic,, if l have gotten what l wanted this post wouldn't have existed... you love younger girls l got u,, it is perfectly your choice,, by this time last year l was even more radical than u..
at 30yrs l don't date any girl above 23yrs ,, l pushed and insulted women in their 30s..
gradually the orientation is changing,, l want to get married and none of them met any of the standard on what l wanted...
l sat down make a good observation and come with my experience and the lie l have told myself instead countering it with a superior facts u are here turning everything upside down... using just one girl u met on nairaland ,,help this make sense to me?

LordReed:
May you never suffer what some of these people suffer because then you will understand that the struggle goes beyond finding a solution to external challenges. Do you think Robin Williams didn't overcome all the external challenges that came his way? Yet he faced a battle you will never understand if you don't suffer from the same or similar ailment. An ailment where you own body is fighting you every step of the way and not even in a way you can properly articulate to someone who is not suffering it.

I repeat, may you never suffer it.

dettolgel:
I once shared the same opinion, until I had the opportunity to live and work with people suffering from depression. Depression is not something you wish away, it is a brain disease and unfortunately if not handled properly will always lead to disastrous end.

Aside that, let me use your own logic - according to you "suicide is a selfish act..." So does guilting someone, who has taken stock of their own lives and come to the conclusion (I agree that it could be an erroneous conclusion) that there is nothing left for them. Isn't it selfish to force someone to live with such a mental agony for your own glorification? Let us not even go into the selfish act that surrounds the decision that brought the person into this world in the first place I would rather not tow the path of "selfishness" when describing the act of suicide, I would rather show more empathy for the victims and give hope to those in similar situation.

I would like to point out, that anyone suffering from depression or that have persistent suicidal thoughts, should seek professional help. It can be managed and you can once again live a fulfilled and pain free life.

Babalegba:
You don't have a clue,do you. How old are you really. Depression affects the brain directly and therefore the thinking process.
Somebody could lose all his wealth and family and still plug on because the cogitation apparatus is still intact but a man with family support and wealth could be a goner because of depression. When this is understood then workable plans could be implemented to help the victim.

dederocs:
If Africans love themselves and are communal, why so much political criminality, why so much embezzlement, why allow the poor workers suffer so much...stress of money can lead to self destructive acts. If we are good and care for one another, it will show in our nation, in equity and justice, welfare for the poor etc.

What I see is eye service and hypocrisy.

maasoap:
What are you ranting about, Mr? Why are you so enraged, yet lacking sympathy? Which one really concern you in all these?
He left message for his family, how did that become your burden because I don't understand? Oga go and rest

Guyman02:
Advice to any man who wants peace of mind, avoid ladies still in their whoring stage when you want to settle down. Look at Regina Daniel smoking like mad just because she had issues with her husband, ladies who got married above 27 years won't behave that way even if she has issues with her husband

Guyman02:
Na this same statement led Peller to abandon his parents home to go and camp a girl that is his senior,
then we all saw him having a mental breakdown on camera while Anthony Joshua, Mbappe and Hakimi still have their mothers around them despite all their money and fame.
You can spot the difference, Peller should be in his parents house buying houses and cars and making money while doing hide and seek with girls until he gets of age,
that's why in many societies in Africa you are not considered as a man until you get to certain age and perfom some rituals.

Maturity most times comes with age don't be deceived by westerners who gave us this slang but won't give driving licence to a 15 year old in their countries no matter how big and matured he is

Gerrard59:
In most cases, it is. As people grow older and get more experienced, they become mature. The exceptions are those who have older siblings and were exposed to life very early. But that is why they are exceptions, not the norm.

Vikto17:
were in the post did u see me make any generalization... u are desperately trying to drag an argument were there is none ,,, did l hold u on the throat and ask u not to marry them? why all this defense mechanism?
If you are a guy man u can't use one girl you met on nairaland to make a hasty generalization on a topic like this... date more ,, relate with more of them and then make ur assessment...and if you are not convince u can exist the topic to another one

AlphaTaikun:
I don't have the luxury of time to start discussing in FULL about the legitimacy or not of the institutions that man attended over there in Nigeria before traveling to the United States. There are people who had broken educational backgrounds as kids and had to change school repeatedly due to the transfers of a parent from one location to another OR through being born to parents with low income which did NOT afford them the opportunity to go to school regularly.

Look, there are people who NEVER even attended secondary school back in the day such as the late Anambra Governor Chukwuemeka Ezeife who ONLY did his equivalent of what is now the GCE exams and passed to gain admission into the University after private studies. He NEVER attended a high school in Nigeria. [/b]There are those who did distance learning education from a UK university back in the 1940s and 1950s while in British Colonial Nigeria WITHOUT leaving the shores of Nigeria.


[b]Right BELOW are some of the Nigerian President 'Bola Tinubu's classmates at Chicago State University back from the 1970s who are incidentally Nigerians of Yoruba descent who affirmed that 'Bola Tinubu graduated in 1979 with high grades.

1] Bola Ahmed Tinubu’s College Classmate Confirms That He Graduated From CSU
https://www.nairaland.com/7840063/bola-ahmed-tinubus-college-classmate#125780026

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZOiWFQIzx4


2] Durojaiye Ogunsanya: Tinubu Was My Classmate At Chicago University | We Mocked H
https://www.nairaland.com/7839196/durojaiye-ogunsanya-tinubu-classmate-chicago



3] Olajide Adeniji: Another Classmate Of Tinubu At CSU Surfaces
https://www.nairaland.com/7854217/olajide-adeniji-another-classmate-tinubu


I already told you in my last post about his investments in various financial assets in the financial markets. Stocks investments through your brokerage firm, mutual funds, derivatives, options, commodities, metals, etc. Those are some of the investments that investment savvy folks like Warren Buffett and more have invested in which bring in regular annual dividends for folks like Tinubu who has investments in financial markets assets in especially Nigeria, the United States. There's a whole load of Nigerian multimillionaires and billionaires who have investments and shares on the stock exchanges for the long-term such as the Forbes-listed USD billionaires, Aliko Dangote, to Otunba Mike Adenuga, Nigerian-Americans Bayo Ogunlesi and Tope Awotona, Femi Otedola, Folorunso Alakija, Abdulsamad Isiaku-Rabiu, etc.

We know that Warren Buffett doesn't have a lot of investments outside the U.S. stock markets which is his main investment vehicle for several decades now. He keeps compounding his ROI. That's the secret of highly intelligent investors worldwide.

AlphaTaikun:
Go back to my original post again. I added some information to it before I saw your post. I'm responding again to you because you are very civil in your response. I told you that Tinubu has investments in the financial markets and through the principle of compounding. Even as far back as 1993, Tinubu had 1.8 million USD in 8 of his United States bank accounts and it was investigated at that time by the United States authorities and found to be LARGELY proceeds of his investments lodged in those 8 bank accounts. Millions of people around the world like the now President 'Bola Tinubu, Warren Buffett, and more global investors who have financial education know where to put their money and gain returns on their investments.

The wealthiest people on earth are international investors and business people who understand financial markets and education NOT employees. They keep growing there wealth through compounding and other multiple streams of income and this is why those who do NOT know these investment keep getting envious of those who have. That envy is global human thing or weakness even in the United States.

Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo, GCFR, SAN too was ahead of his time and from 1952 to 1959 when he was the Premier of the Old Western Region he and his team brought a lot of dynamic innovation into governance that the other 2 regions of North and East of Nigeria even started copying his development plans. The Industrial Estates in the North and Eastern regions came out of that healthy rivalry. The Ikeja Industrial Estate, Iganmu Industrial Estate, Ilupeju Industrial Estate, Oluyole Industrial Estate, etc, were his ideas for the industrial revolution in the Western region and Apapa was the point of export from those industrial estates. HID Awolowo too was an international business woman with strong tentacles in the textile industry and more. Same with Alhaji Abibatu Mogaji an powerful international business woman and mother of 'Bola Tinubu.

So, keep an open mind and learn how others have made legit money through hidden opportunities and time management.

Back in the early 1990s, I purchased and read a book entitled: "Think and Grow Rich" by Napoleon Hill. That book literally shows with emphasis the different historical perspectives on how anyone can become wealthy through identifying opportunities early, and investing in people and enterprise. I will stop here because of my limited time.

AlphaTaikun:
[i]Coincidentally, I have relatives and associates who worked with Mobil Nigeria (later renamed ExxonMobil) even at a time Tinubu worked there where he rose (as a Chartered Accountant and technocrat) to the senior rank of a Treasurer with Mobil Nigeria (now ExxonMobil). Do you know what it means to be a Treasurer in a multinational corporation like ExxonMobil?

Elusive001:
They said that he was accountant at ExxonMobil and we asked how long did he work there and how much was all his monetary remuneration. They ran away. As a mobil staff allegedly, so he didn't touch his pay? Even if he didn't, so the money still dey?

His deputy in 1999 said that he had no vehicle pre-1999 ooooo: a whole rich man oooo


If you arw waiting for them acknowledge the truth about his source of wealth that everyone knows, then you will wait till eternity.

AlphaTaikun:
Let me school you here.

You're NOT well-informed because you are younger in age and you're even sounding like a broken record . As a man who voted during the June 12 1993 elections, I can confirm that Tinubu was very wealthy as of the time the June 12 struggle started. Everything those informed posters said about the now President 'Bola Tinubu's wealth is true.

Tinubu also purchased a private