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Dtruthspeaker:
Your problem is your love and use of half truths where you get to pretend as if you do not know that when we Nigerians say that customs and traditions are d3vilish, we are referring to those offensive parts which are naturally repulsive and repugnant eg cutting of flesh for the dead, drinking of the water of dead bodies, a sons inheriting his mother (father's wife) etc. which you atheists always always condemn declaring how you are not going to subscribe to them.

So, even you call those things devilish and pagany

Are you saying Christianity is perfect and there's no Flaw there ? Huh. And there are no offensive parts in Christianity too?

Dtruthspeaker:
See Losers desperation of the looshun🤣

Insalt and deflect all you want, the thread shows you Lost and are out of the game
🤣🤣. So I will only be facing the new contestants Loser!!! 🤣🤣🤣

You're running away from the truth Son . Don't hide your pain with emojis . The Anti spam bot dealt with you when you were trying to use insults . Seems my Work is Done here . Since you've accepted you're a Pagan you have nothing to say. What a Shame you couldn't handle an argument with someone you said was born in 2008 . I schooled like a child ehn 40 years old man . You gave in To Defeat as easy as that? I'm disappointed , . Mr Ritualist .

sonmvayina:
Dtruthspeaker, wao.. I never even knew somebody wrote this about you. Why were you all over me as if it was just only me that noticed it.
Almost everybody knows.

Happy Sunday sha

It's very Obvious but not to worry Today is his Redemption Day he will be baptized to Receive sense by Force

Dtruthspeaker:
See the looshun at its finest. 🤣🤣

Insalt and deflect all you want, the thread shows you Lost and are out of the game
🤣🤣. I will only be facing the new contestants Loser!!! 🤣🤣🤣

Awwn . So You've Tapped out? . Come on bro don't be a Sore loser, Don't give in to Defeat and Run away like a Coward in Christ . Come back and defend your beliefs . Come to Papa

DeepSight:
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Neither does he have the intelligence or depth of knowledge for the subject.

At all He's very fickle and Defensive he doesn't have the intellectual capacity to Easily Comprehend things

DeepSight:
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He has no clue what a ritual is.

infact he knows nothing he just gobbles up everything his Religion tells him without questioning any part of it.

Dtruthspeaker:
You keep forgetting that this is a thread, everyone can see that you are projecting

Besides, You Lost man and you are out of the game. So, let me face the new contestants. 🤣🤣🤣

I dey press your neck steady. This is What happens when you meet an enlightened person . Stick to Logic and counter What I said

Dtruthspeaker:
🤣See this one thinks that I would have eternal argument with him especially on his Off Point argument. 🤣 Buahahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Please Stick to logic. Counter it you can but don't results to insults we are all Adults here and act like one. That's is Valid point . Or you want me to explain what a Ritual is?

Dtruthspeaker:
Says the one who has been crying since Wueeeeh, Wueeeeh, wueeeh 😭😭😭 change the argument up and down trying to find an argument you can win, yet finding none.

Till the point that you have now joined atheists (clear proof that the 2 of you are the same) and relying on them to attack me.🤣.

Clear,proof you are Loser and you have now run to your atheists daddies to save you from the pains of your Loses. 🤣🤣🤣

Boy, it won't work! It's sifia pains for you all the way 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Enough of the Projection, sentiments and emotions . Let's stick to Logic . You have nothing to convey. We have ripped all the illusions around your Religion . You're a Pagan and a Ritualist like other Christians too . Lets Stick to the Topic . This Deserves to be On the FrontPage so the Whole world can see clearly for themselves

Dtruthspeaker:
I have shown you that even your dictionaries, who are even big on research and argument landed on that definition.

But if you think they are wrong lo, come argue against me. Don't bring a book who cannot answer back.

Since you support that position, then make the necessary arguement in support and I'll argue from this side

Can you see the Dictionary definition baa? That means Prayer is a Ritual, dropping money for Offering is a ritual, Paying tithe is a Ritual, Fasting is a ritual, water baptism is a ritual, Laying of Hands is a Ritual, Anointing oil is a ritual amigo. You guys are Ritualist by that definition.

DeepSight:
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Christianity is one hundred per cent pagan as well.

You too Valid my Brother. Christians be tripping thinking they are above everyone not knowing they're Pagans themselves. Holy Communion is a Pagan thing.

DeepSight:
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From your silly definition all other religions other than Christianity are pagan.
What a laugh.

Go and school yourself.

https://www.paganfed.org/paganism/

Paa Daanu

Dtruthspeaker:
See it, now you have lost the matter not having any thing to say you are now raising new things to argue about talking about even talking about Adeboye drinking tea, thinking na so we go dey argue forever .

Many threads here have settled all those things and so you have nothing pagan.

You're in Pains my Bro . The truth hurts and aches. You asked me to explain how God is not in any Religion and I explained with Clarity and used Baba Adeboye as an example . I was Expecting you to refute the biblical claims because I've more loaded

[quote author=Dtruthspeaker post=137571006] . You couldn't win an argument then you start using insults and throwing tantrums. Your Religion is Man Made it has nothing to To with God. Humans wrote everything from start to finish God had nothing to do with it. He never had a Personal Dialogue with Any individual or Showed himself to anyone in The past, Today or Forever. God never favoured and tribe or country, hence he's above any Religion. I know it's your delusional types that will believe Papa Adeboye had Tea with God. God wont tell any to Stone non virgins Deuteronomy 22:20 or Killing a Stubborn son in Deuteronomy 21:18, Or allow Slavery in Exodus 21:20. So your inability to think for yourself and follow Blindly will always keep you enslaved. I know you will come up with defenses for this Bible verse

LordReed:
It is so sad that Africans have been so indoctrinated that they see their own cultures and traditions as devilish while embracing the cultures and traditions of the ones who enslaved and subjugated them. Very sad.

Exactly Bro. Mental Slavery is the Worst form of Slavery that is hard to Break free from.

Dtruthspeaker:
So, as the ceiling in your house is above, so it does not belong to you and your house? Please stop disgracing yourself na.

c'mon bro. Religion has Enslaved your mental capabilities see the analogy you're bringing up. God is Above Religion. Religion is Made by Man. God Never spoke Directly to any man Your roof analogy doesn’t work because a roof is a physical part of a house, built from the same materials. God and religion are not the same category. Religion is a human system, God is the source it tries to describe. Saying God belongs to religion is like saying an author belongs to the book he wrote?. You you have any amount of reasoning you'd know that doesn't make any sense

Wow that's very interesting

Dtruthspeaker:
Since when did "God is above all religions" mean "God belongs to a religion"? Boy, your head is leaking profusely

O what deadly blows have you received to the point you are leaking all over the place and now you are mixing up facts.

Boy, go and heal first. The beatings you have taken are too much.

Man you don't understand basic logic I doubt you ever attended tertiary institution if God is Above Religion then that means he doesn't belong to any Religion Simple. Stop doing Cocaine bro

Dtruthspeaker:
Since when did "God is above all religions" mean "God belongs to a religion"? Boy, your head is leaking profusely

O what deadly blows have you received to the point of leaking all over the place and now you are mixing up facts.

Boy, go and heal first. The beatings you have taken are enough.

Clown But You Agreed to it when I said it. If God is Above Religion then he has no particular religion he mandates to be his Simple logic. Hiding your tears behind a The Emoji. 😂😂😂😂 funny Guy you are a Pagan like the others too End of Story.

Dtruthspeaker:
You words and intentions are there denying it, won't remove them

Secondly, where did I say "God belongs to a religion? Now you are gasping for air. Hoo hee Hoo hee

And lastly, your repeating yourself just proves how desperate you are in clear proof you looost after all your tricks of trying to turn it against me, you still Failed. Hehehehehe

[quote author=Dtruthspeaker post=137527770]Of course God is above all religions, so that one is moot. But where did you see men telling you not to fornicte? When they are the ones even telling you that if you no mash that babe you fv k up? .

Dtruthspeaker:
Of course God is above all religions, so that one is moot. But where did you see men telling you not to fornicte? When they are the ones even telling you that if you no mash that babe you fv k up.



No man can but God has already told us. And today we have all read again and again about all their ends.

And I said being a virgin is a good start, there are still other rules you still have to obey before you get a good, no great marriage.

But for now, i am just saying that all your ways will never work even if the couples are virgins. But as I said, you people always think that you are wiser than God, so, I am here to watch the failures. And for anyone who is about to toe that same way, I am saying failure is waiting for them

it seems you have Short term memory here it is Son. Everything I say is facts

Dtruthspeaker:
See, you cannot even counter it, to the point that you started abusing me and saying that your babalawos were ordained by God when no one saw that happen. Hehehehe

Meanwhile, the difference is very clear that you are pagan Amorite and enemi of God and that is why you have been attacking me and Christianity trying to transfer all your the loozions on me, seeing that you had nothing valid to say after all your best efforts and crooked tricks.

You still lost! hehehehehe .

I never insulted you amigo you already shot yourself in the foot by agreeing That God doesn't belong to Any Religion And Secondly to the sacrifice and burnt Offerings to God. You are a Pagan and your God is a pagan too just the all other Traditional Religion. Game over you lost .

MaxInDHouse:
I know you don't want to be affiliated with that name "CHRISTIANS" due to the confusion these countless religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines are teaching so when you said:



I perfectly understood what you meant.

So instead of banking on what those religions used to irritate you try to know the real meaning of what they quoted for you back then.

TRINITY is pagan traditions borrowed after the death of first century disciples of Christ to increase members of the churches because they don't know how to go about the preaching and teaching work Jesus assigned and they want to increase the numbers of their followers they have to welcome different pagan traditions for people practicing it to accept their religion.
That's why you can't see the word TRINITY in any version of the Bible!

Exactly The Christianity has been Mixed up witb Roman Pagan Tradition I've spent the Whole day arguing with Dtruthseeker on this. He sees everyone has pagan except himself. Me saying I'm not a Christian is that I don't belong fully and don't align with every aspect. I've this Last three years Study other Religions and they all have aspect I accept and parts I completely reject. They all have Rules every member has to adhere too - My Major problem I can't obey all so I will always be an Outcast. Jesus Stands out from all other figures to me because of the way he Was selfless and Compassionate till the End. I don't believe he died for our Sins. We Will all get judged at the end of each cycle.

Dtruthspeaker:
Now you are talking.

1) Since you recognise that it is God they are directing it to, of which there is only One, it means therefore, that it means He gets to lay what He wants.

2) Secondly, it is not everyone who is to do those activities only a cleansed and purified Levite, which is why as you see now that there is no Levite, not to talk about a purified Levite, we Christians are far from paganism.

So, you see, the difference is over clear.

This Guyyyy . Your fantasy World never cease to amaze me You don't want to See the Real World Clearly you just want to Hold to your illusions as Coping Mechanism . Brody's Talking about Levites . In African Traditional Religion Babalawos are also Ordained by God to Carry out Sacrifices too infact you can say they are the modern Day Levites . So You can't deny the Fact that you're Pagans bro. .

MaxInDHouse:
English dictionary: COMMUNICATION?

A passageway or opening between two locations.

So just as God promised that there will be a highway of holiness {Isaiah 35:8} Jesus is the prophet who came to fulfill that prophecy! John 14:6

We don't just read the Bible we look for it's practical application!

as a depth Psychologist we tend to try to study beliefs how they originate. JW is different from other Mainstream Christianity so I want to Really understand for real. So I need direct answers Bible verses alone ain't just cutting in it.
1. JW don't believe in the Idea of Trinity? I know you guys have different views compared to others churches Share them with me. I'm the most liberal free Spirited free thinker you'd ever meet. JW don't see Jesus the way other churches just gimme clear Explanations just like I did mine.

MaxInDHouse:
It means Jesus is the only worshiper of our God who knows how to worship Him acceptably! Matthew 17:5

You don't just bring in another Point of View. Have some Guts and debunk those verses. Is what he said in those verses false?. The verse you posted is only Certifies Jesus Is Was Sent by God. Do y'all believe he's the way to God and no other way.

MaxInDHouse:
In which verse?

Being one with God means in agreement with God:


“I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word, so that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, so that the world may believe that you sent me. I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one.  I in union with them and you in union with me, in order that they may be perfected into one, so that the world may know that you sent me and that you loved them just as you loved me. John 17:20-23

So Jesus is our brother according to him:

Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’ John 20:17

This means the father of Jesus is our father and the God Jesus worships is our God!🙂

Lol but you can't enter Heaven without Jesus he said this in John 14:6 and Acts. 4:12 from this verses it Shows Jesus is the mediator between God and Humans? So I don't get your doctrine.

MaxInDHouse:
If you want to know what that group name "Christians" means read what Jesus said in the Bible book of Matthew 7:21-23

It's not everyone calling him "Lord Lord" claiming he is their master that will enter into the kingdom of heaven but those doing the will of his father.

This means there is an expected goal for Christians to achieve only those meeting up this goal are true Christians! Matthew 7:16-18

very I Good but in this verse Jesus was talking as if he and the Father are one. What is your relationship as a JW with Jesus. Who is he to you guys

MaxInDHouse:
Good question!

We are fulfilling the prophecy recorded in Isaiah 2:2-4 repeated in Micah 4:1-3

That's the reason why God introduced Himself achieved by Jehovah's Witnesses globally so let any other God present His or Her evidence if they truly exist! Isaiah 43:10

But you claim y'all don't worship Christ? And Christianity means followers of Christ. Are y'all not Christians?

MaxInDHouse:
If you don't believe the Bible completely it's better you continue with your fans!

Yo! What makes you JW different with your different teachings too muchacho?

Dtruthspeaker:
Which is why you are now in desperation trying to use the Roman Catholic even after you have been told that everyone has since knew and settled that the Romans and catholics are pagans and are not really Christians and their pagan practices have been separated from Christianity. So, it's just you and your paganism.

Okay . Your tears Continues now since you want to Deny Reality. What's the Difference of Your God in the 1st testament that Accepts Sacrifices and burnt offerings with African Traditional Religion that does the same to their God too. Can see you guys are birds of a feather