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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sleekdot(m): 5:14pm On Oct 20, 2019
Handball
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sleekdot(m): 5:13pm On Oct 20, 2019
larride:
Can we say FA are favoring City now considering that’s a foul and the goal shouldn’t have stand?
That was not a foul lindelofs touch was not enough to bring him down
Origi dived
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sleekdot(m): 5:08pm On Oct 20, 2019
larride:
See through ball from James.
Where was the MCM defender
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sleekdot(m): 5:06pm On Oct 20, 2019
Rashford goal

See VVD couldnt close Daniel James
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sleekdot(m): 5:02pm On Oct 20, 2019
larride:
From 1999 to 2013 that SAF retired, he only broke the transfer record twice. One on Veron and the other on Ferdinand.

Next.
Have you now seen the time Man utd was richest club. I claimed and I proved it to you
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sleekdot(m): 4:55pm On Oct 20, 2019
See as Rashford dey use VVD clean grass
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sleekdot(m): 4:44pm On Oct 20, 2019
larride:
e who allege must prove. Prove when Man Utd was the richest club in the world during SAF reign.

Stay on course, don’t shift the goalpost.
There you go

Next question. I got banned posting the link but you can google it

Check the date of the news

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 10:23pm On Oct 13, 2019
Belarus scored their first goal at home in a long time

https://j.gifs.com/Qngjm7.gif
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 4:19pm On Oct 12, 2019
Adiwana:
During Bayern's PEAK years,who and who were better than the combination of Ribery and Robben??
During Bayern peak years no one in Bayern was better than Robben and Ribery

Robben and Ribery were past their peaks in 2015 but Bayern had no one better than them

I am telling you why Bayern fans lamented missing them in 2015. Despite that they were past their peaks we had no one better
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 10:13pm On Oct 11, 2019
Adiwana do you believe Giggs extended his peak by moving into midfield? or Maldini extended his by moving into CB

Ronaldo is extending his peak by moving into an area where he doesnt need to run as much thus preserving his energy on the field
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 10:10pm On Oct 11, 2019
Adiwana:
You are mistaken something. Peak of a player is that stint period the player produces at maximum before he declines or sees himself not producing at that level again.This usually comes with age.So many players have defiled this notion by the way.players like Van der Saar,Pirlo continued to produce and play better as they age increased.But all this one na grammar..

Bayern players were still playing very well even as at 2015.Even some Bayern fans could argue that they lost to Barcelona as at 2015 because they played without Ribery and Robbem due to injury.This goes to show you that even at that stage,this team was really fearsome
That is because Bayern did not have anyone better than them not like they were on the level of 2013 Bayern
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 7:03pm On Oct 11, 2019
kendrick93:
sterling was bought for 49m.... Liverpool best young talent but according to you he was a joke... lol
PS....I knew sterling when he was in the academy so don't bring up lies
Andy Carrol too was bought for a sumptuous amount and what has happend to him

Siggurdson was also bought for 50M and not delivering like Sterling
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 7:02pm On Oct 11, 2019
kendrick93:
You know players get better as the come of age right....that's natural progression
And double their output within 12months with a new coach playing a different position
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 6:41pm On Oct 11, 2019
spillo1:
LMFAO So that's the other Messi he has created/made cheesy cheesy
Sterling that used to be a joke before is now one of the best attackers in Europe
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 6:41pm On Oct 11, 2019
kendrick93:
don't be ridiculous...this is Lionel freaking Messi we are talking about here..
He was destined to be the best...
Where was this destiny when he was dropping below 20 goals a season before Pep?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 6:34pm On Oct 11, 2019
kendrick93:
would Messi have been the player he is with or without pep?
Absolutely
Without Pep changing Messis role on the field he would never be a 40goals a season attacker. The facts are staring you in the face
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 6:32pm On Oct 11, 2019
spillo1:
Should I list players who had their best goal output under Mourinho?
List 5 let me list 5 for Pep
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 6:31pm On Oct 11, 2019
spillo1:
You are spreading fallacy. Messi is a generational talent Be careful. Which other Messi has pep created?
Sterling before Pep was a single digit goals scoring player.

With pep he has established himself as a double-digit goal scoring option
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 6:29pm On Oct 11, 2019
spillo1:
You are spreading fallacy. Messi is a generational talent Be careful. Which other Messi has pep created?
bring your facts out and lets see. Pep based on the facts above made the Messi we know today. Changed the Messi 16 goals a season winger to the Messi forward 40goals a season
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 6:28pm On Oct 11, 2019
kendrick93:
ah swear....
He wanted to bring Tika taka to bunch of 'German machines' and he ended up costing that team at least one more CL glory..
Can you imagine jurgen klopp managing that team after.....mehn that would have been crazy
We saw Juup and Ancelotti managing that team and they didnt make a final
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 6:24pm On Oct 11, 2019
spillo1:
Now they want to claim the team had already peaked when guardiola rubbish style was hindering the team. Pep ruined Bayern
His players said they played their best football under him
His employers said they played some of the best football they have ever seen under him

But it was Guardiola hindering them. How did the same Schweini perform at United immediately after leaving Bayern
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 6:22pm On Oct 11, 2019
spillo1:
Should we add those to pep achievement at Bayern?
Player improvement is one of the goals of a coach unlike one Mourinho where attacking players get worse under him
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 6:20pm On Oct 11, 2019
kendrick93:
the one where he was out for half of that season with injury?
Softly dey lie

Messi 08/09 31 league games 23 goals
Messi 07/08 28 league games 10 goals

3 games difference increased goals by 13
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 6:18pm On Oct 11, 2019
patrickmuf:
Doesn't a year of maturity count for something?
You mean a player doubles his output within 12months when a new coach comes and he is played in a new role? Will Messi be dropping these figures if he was still pinned to the wings like the previous coaches did
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 6:17pm On Oct 11, 2019
spillo1:
LMFAO man said highlight. What about Muller,lahm? Brought a style of player that got Bayern demolished and gang raped by Spanish merchant. Took a treble winning team and couldn't get to a champions league final. Peaked my ass. Guardiola was a failure that's why they couldn't get to another final
Muller scored his highest number of goals under Pep Guardiola
Robben said he improved under Pep like he never did under any other coach(He played under Mourinho and Ancelotti)
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 6:16pm On Oct 11, 2019
patrickmuf:
Dayo said after Bayern's treble, the players were out of their peak period by making reference to the fact that they peaked when they won the treble...

So,why can't Mou failure to win the UCL in Madrid be tied to the fact that the players then had not reached the peak of their career?

Now, this is me pointing out the selectivity in application of certain logic in the whole argument you guys have been having here...
How can players who have won Balon dor before Mourinho still be waiting to reach their peak? Not 1 but 2
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 6:14pm On Oct 11, 2019
kendrick93:
How old was Messi in 06/2007 bro?
Do know what they call maturity at all?
Messi in 07/08 was dropping 16 goals a season 12 months later he was dropping more than double
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 6:14pm On Oct 11, 2019
spillo1:
It was before Mourinho won. Are you disputing the fact that before Mourinho won Barca Didn't win the league thrice.
Who wrote the below?

Do you admit to lying when you posted the below?

spillo1:
Lol before Mourinho came Barca won the league thrice in a role. That is one in 4yrs.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 6:12pm On Oct 11, 2019
kendrick93:
imagine...Messi wey I don hear since 2005 to be next maradona....
As at 2007 there were already calls that he was going to be the greatest player ever.... Messi was already amongst the best players In the world before anybody for this world even know they were calling Pep...
Hahhaaha....
How many goals did this next Maradona score before Pep
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 6:12pm On Oct 11, 2019
spillo1:
Fallacy. Messi was always a generational talent. With or without pep he would have dominated. He didn't make shittt but helped developed him.
This generational talent did not score 20 goals a season before Pep

The evidence is there for everyone to see. Messi production before Pep and after Pep

Messi 06/07 - 17 goals in all competition
Messi 07/08 - 16 goals in all competition

Enter Pep Guardiola

Messi 08/09 - 38 goals in all compeition (More than doubled previous season)
Messi 09/10 - 47 goals in all competition
Messi 10/11 - 53 goals in all competition
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 6:11pm On Oct 11, 2019
kendrick93:
I'm still in shock about this post
The evidence is there for everyone to see. Messi production before Pep and after Pep

Messi 06/07 - 17 goals in all competition
Messi 07/08 - 16 goals in all competition

Enter Pep Guardiola

Messi 08/09 - 38 goals in all compeition (More than doubled previous season)
Messi 09/10 - 47 goals in all competition
Messi 10/11 - 53 goals in all competition
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sleekdot(m): 6:06pm On Oct 11, 2019
kendrick93:
Stop making excuses for pep...I believe he spent over a 170m that season and couldn't get past a Monaco in the round of 16
Pogba and Lukaku alone costs more than that. How much did Mourinho spend and couldbnt get past Sevilla, Sevillas record signing was Muriel for 20M

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