afrodoc2:


I was just saying it. Zoff and Albertosi were cannibalizing each other. The same way Clements and Shilton did for England.

The ultimate cannibalization was Pagliuca cannibalizing Zenga only to be cannibalized by Peruzzi whose career was now cannibalized by a combination of Buffon and Toldo. The person that suffered the most was Marchegianni who was at best no 4 in Italy when he would have been no1 in most other countries and he was the only one who was never a starter in a tournament.

You think that was bad? Try Germany
Since I started watching Germany fully

Germany had Bodo Illgner starting beyond his sell date when Andy Kopke was ready
When Illgner left, Kopke now overstayed his own time till 1998 world cup and ate half of Oliver Kahns career
Oliver Kahn started from 2000 and also cannibalized most of Jens Lehman career until 2006 when Klinsman forcefully benched Kahn
After 2008 when Lehmann, Enke was already chopping minutes meant for Rene Adler and Neuer until he died
Adler became number 1 until he got injured just towards 2010 world cup courtesy of Neuers jazz and that was the end of his career
Neuer became number 1 since 2010 and his effective jazz ensured no one ever challenged him, any keeper who tried to will meet with misfortune between the goal

Ter Stergen at Mochengladbach made noise that he should be number 1, they tried him in friendlies and he started passing to opponents to score cheap goals
MAtS left Germany to avoid Neuers curse, Neuer got injured and he started a few but was leaking goals.
Neuer came back and last CL when he was supposed to prove he was better than Neuer in the CL quarter vs Bayern, That match became a fiasco for him

All the others like Kevin Trapp, Leno have accepted their fate now, Alex Nubel who should be starting for 90% of ther countries and clubs is now sitting comfortably on the Bayern bench waiting for Neuer

odizeey:


Forget this trap you want to set. Were the class of 92 or any players that were mention there termed GOATS? Nothing like GOAT defender.

You mean Maldini, Baresi, Gerd Muller, Xavi, Iniesta are not GOATS

Unlimited22:

I'm a bit young so for Spain I can only point out Zubizarreta, Casillas, De Gea, Valdes, Reina and Canizares.

But Germany you have Maier, Kahn, Lehmann, Neuer, MATS, Leno, Butt, Weidenfeller etc etc

There is nothing great about Valdes, Reina Canizares they would just be like Leno or Weidenfeller

Germany and Italy are for keepers

SyIvalord:
Yeah, I was conflicted on which to choose between Spain and Germany.

Who are the great keepers from Spain you can recall?

odizeey:

Them claim GOAT?

Name the GOAT goalkeepers, Defenders and midfielders and lets see

TrebleChamp:
All the great players moved around different leagues to test themselves, we won't if Messi would succeed in either EPL or Seria cos he never moved. Maradona left Barcelona for Napoli and made them a European force winning the eufa Cup and club winners Cup i think. Messi's struggles with Argentina says alot about his ability outside Barcelona...

Is any of Maldini, Baresi, Scholes Giggs, Xavi Iniesta a great player?

Sulele04:

fabregas is a bum.
bundled out at barcelona because he was simply not good enough to be on their bench, despite playing with top attacking players he continued to drop poverty numbers he had to be shipped out.

bundled out at chelsea because he was a passenger, defensive wise he is an escort mildfielder and attacking wise he also continued to drop poverty numbers.

i am eagerly waiting for your lampard slander just so you know man is bigger than your club, so slander with respect .

Tell ibime to post this with his regular ID after serving his spambot ban. Popiziano is waiting to pop some hot lead

Greatihex:


According to you, Mourinho killed Mata's career despite him only playing for 5 months under Mou, but Mourinho had no such bad influence on Hazard despite him playing two and half years under Mou.
Kwantinuo

ok

iamoyindamola:

Or deflected shots

So he no see deflected shot for world cup?

BlueAngel444:
so him no get feet to score win world cup

Abi him feet dey for special occasions

Shey Nsukkabag no get fingers to code at Andela?

Bunsenbun:
you have to factor in the pressure,imagine coding without regular supply of light,having to be stuck in traffic and let us not forget the cold nights at ikorodu where one chance boys would take away your pc and leave you helpless.

Abi SARS arrest Nsukkaberg say na yahoo boy

BlueAngel444:

Is coding done in the atmosphere or on the ground. You be typing rubbish in c#

Coding is done on a computer with your fingers like football is done on the field with your feet

nitrogen:


Let’s be fair, Messi is very good, but we cannot conclude that he will score 30+ goals consistently in the EPL or any other league because he has not left Barcelona.

No one knows because he has no history in another league!

To be fair, We have never seen Zukerberg program at NIIT or for Jumia so we dont know if he can cope with coding in Nigeria

popiziano, Don't entertain any reconciliation committee in the background. Anyone dey send to you at night with Ghana must go bag, send them back

See as dem dey dorty Fabregas here

A whole Fabregas shey na because him no dey use penalty pad stats like Lampard?

Melvyn11:

Guy just stop typing. You are beginning to type trash. Even at Bremen Ozil was providing 15+ league assists seasons back to back. Came to Arsenal and still racked up 19assists league season with Giroud and co. Ozil is levels above Fabregas

Bros rest first. na the Lampard dragging we buy ticket for today. We go yarn Ozil matter later

popizaino:
Any fabregas slander again and i will drag your favourite lampard.

Ibime, I dare you to say anything against Fabregas at this point.

popizaino:

Any fabregas slander again and i will drag your favourite lampard.

expert17, Melvyn11 you are invited

Unlimited22:

Boss this one is actually true. The argument can be made for Mou ruining Mata, but Silva was already a senior man before meeting Pep.

If Silva had run into Mourinho in 2014 as he was approaching his peak, No one will be talking about him being a senior man anywhere in England

His longevity and Pep adapting him to have 2 AM play in the middle was part of why he edged out Mata. That is the edge someone like Silva had over players like Zabaleta who were trashed by Pep

If a player like KdB did not come back and play under Pep to break records, the narrative till today will be that he cant cope with EPL football since he failed under Mourinho

Ibime:


Silva played under Mancini who is quite a defensive manager and even on the wing. He was already a City legend before he met Pep in 2016.

Mata should die Mourinho excuse. He only played 5 months under Mourinho. Mata position became redundant in football and he was too small and weak to adapt. Silva may be short but him body dey ground with low centre of gravity. Mata is just lean and weak.

Anyone can be a City legend easily because they don't have a big or prolific reference point, Actually, anyone that was part of the 2012 league win is already 60% into being a City legend, including all those Zabaleta Joke Hart etc being part of the 100points team in addition to what he achieved earlier. cemented it for him

Pre Mourinho see the stats Mata was putting up? At that time he was outperforming Silva easily. Immediately Mourinho came, Mata became his scapegoat.

Mata played the same position as Silva, Matas first 2 seasons at Chelsea he dropped 17 league goals and 30 league assists. If we handpick Silvas best 2 seasons anywhere in his career, he never matched this

kendrick9:
Silva was the better player amongst them four.
I will pick him...
After that it comes down to between Ozil and Fabregas..
At Peak level i think Ozil edges, the ozil at the 2010 world cup and at R.madrid was really out of this world...
Fabregas whilst also great but his main attribute was long passing and shots at his peak,
This got noticeable worse at his chelsea days where he was just a long passing specialist and nothing else.
At Barca a top club, he was exposed imo, he just lacked that extra quality which is why he is below the likes of Xavi, iniesta and Silva imo...
That stamina, agility really held him back and his game intelligence isn't upto the xavis of this world.
I don't think he ever could run a midfield like a xavi,inesta or Silva could...

Would Silva have played in Barcelona team also?
Silva just like Fabregas was deployed as a false 9 whenever they had to play with Xavi and Iniesta

Greatihex:
Sir, Silva has already made a name for himself before ever meeting pep. Don't bring the pep - Mou talk into it.

OK

BlueAngel444:
let's act like Mata did not play in the qualifiers, who was he supposed to bench in Spain XI, see the people Mata shared bench with.

I am sure there were top Spanish players that didn't even make the squad

If Mata was good enough he will make the first team, If he couldnt make the first team, we shouldnt rate him above people who made the first team and actually won on the field

timbros:


You don commit now now?!

My enemies are plenty you know. And the thing I typed sef I cannot see anything bad in it
This is why I need Apostle Suleman to teleport my enemies from their homes to Awkuzu SARS detention

Unlimited22:

Nah Mata's Prime was a banger too.

It's just that it was over in a flash. He ran into Mou in 2013 and it was never the same again.

And if we're going by the Ramdeuter metric of 1 UCL or WC >>>>>>>>> 1 billion league titles, Mata is the only one there with both medals.

You mean the world cup where Mata played a sum total of 20mins vs Honduras or the Euro cup where he played 3 mins as a time wasting sub in a 4-0 win

To win both World up and Euro, Spain played about 1250mins and Mata participated in 23 of those mins, he probably didnt even sweat

Make we no lie, Mata had as much influence in winning those trophies as those of us typing from Nairaland

airmark:


German cup finals - 2018/2019 , 2019/2020 Super cup - 2019/2020

Boathand was benched in all these cups by Bayern, and they won.

He is already offered for sale on Amazon.

CL final 2019/2020 played in August 2020 Boateng started Bayern won
German cup final 2019/2020 played in June 2020 Boateng started. Bayern won

You can continue wailing uncontrollably like a bushbaby

airmark:


Mumu, no use your head hit wall o.

If you have sense, you should have asked why is Boathand always getting benched in the last 3 Cup finals?

Laumdeuter.

Mention these 3 cup finals that Boateng was benched. Let us check if you have been able to borrow sense

Nikiballer:


You mean this guy ,this one glory don enter water na,you no see say people no dey involve am in the grand scheme of things anymore,dem no dey involve am for football arguements again,dem don forget am like leper.....na burger he go dey chop for Spain

Hazard training na for inside kitchen

airmark:
Ramdeuter aka slekdot, why is calamitous Boathand on the bench, while the coach preferred Martinez to play as CB?

Cant you ask people around you for sense?

Why is Tolliso preferred over Goretzka or why is Coman preffered over Gnabry
If your sense tells you Martinez is playing CB then even Stockton cannot help/assist you

madrid5:
abeg not on this thread oh

Are you not a Madrid fan on Wednesdays?

hensben:
As you can I didn’t go emotional but sentimental due to the element I had argument with that day. But in all honesty I like Neymar as a player and will always wish him well.

Hello sir, This is ramdeuter

My main account has been banned by spambot, once its released we will have a very lenghty conversation about the flop called Hidden hazard

So be prepared

hensben:
As you can I didn’t go emotional but sentimental due to the element I had argument with that day. But in all honesty I like Neymar as a player and will always wish him well.

Bros you think say we forget?

hensben:
Its not Hazard’s fault that Chelsea has been inconsistent in Europe. Get that into your score. Btw, how is that anybody’s problem if Neymar got injured.

kendrick9:
How is German player of the year same as Bundesliga player of the year.
You are aware that Award is for German internationals right?
Isn't it a bit ironic how you call these kinds of awards polling booth, now its some sort of validation..
Lol,
What can be more polling booth than an award giving to German player probably as some consolation.

Robben Lewandoski Ribery KdB are now German internationals