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Christianity EtcRe: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 5:07pm On Dec 12, 2017
analize701:
I am not sure you listen to yourself as you speak. Pls do not talk for the sake of talking. Stop and reason because your words represents you.

Post here any koranic verse which was a direct voice of allah or muhammed. They are a thousand voices of men and women reporting what allah or muhammed said.

But we hear YHWH and Jesus speaking directly. Which book will you say came from God?


You, a muslim claims that the Jewish Patriarchs were Musilms, and that allah gave them the Bible, but here you are calling them Tom, Dick and, Harry.

The people wrote the koran claiming it was muhammed, yet not even muslims can understand the koran without the Hadiths. But, Different men at different times wrote the Bible, yet the central message is still unified.

Prophets, priests, Shepherds, Kings Judges, and lay men wrote the Bible, yet the koran which claims to be written by one man is still running behind trying to catch up.

Boy, stop being hyperactive, it's exposing too much of your ignorance.
all Qur'an was never a world of Muhammed or any body but that of Allah through his prophet Muhammad, while the Old testament suppose to be that of God or Musa and the the new testament to be that of Jesus they were all never the author of those books nether do they instructed anybody to compile it. no thousand of people as you claimed but only Muhammed received the revelation but instructed scribes to put it in to writing. differ from bible that it was donkey years after these prophet died before every body stated to write bible and revision of the bible still continue till today. wat a book from God!

we as a Muslim believed in the book Moses came with and believed in the Book Jesus came with which are not the compilation of books as you said called today bible. the question now is where are those original books of these prophet of God, as is mentioned in the bible?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 4:49pm On Dec 12, 2017
godisgood200:
Post them out
Mathew 1:1 The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
2 Abraham was the father of Isaac, and Isaac the father of Jacob, and Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers, 3 and Judah the father of Perez and Zerah by Tamar, and Perez the father of Hezron, and Hezron the father of Ram,[a] 4 and Ram[b] the father of Ammin′adab, and Ammin′adab the father of Nahshon, and Nahshon the father of Salmon, 5 and Salmon the father of Bo′az by Rahab, and Bo′az the father of Obed by Ruth, and Obed the father of Jesse, 6 and Jesse the father of David the king.
And David was the father of Solomon by the wife of Uri′ah, 7 and Solomon the father of Rehobo′am, and Rehobo′am the father of Abi′jah, and Abi′jah the father of Asa,[c] 8 and Asa[d] the father of Jehosh′aphat, and Jehosh′aphat the father of Joram, and Joram the father of Uzzi′ah, 9 and Uzzi′ah the father of Jotham, and Jotham the father of Ahaz, and Ahaz the father of Hezeki′ah, 10 and Hezeki′ah the father of Manas′seh, and Manas′seh the father of Amos,[e] and Amos[f] the father of Josi′ah, 11 and Josi′ah the father of Jechoni′ah and his brothers, at the time of the deportation to Babylon.
12 And after the deportation to Babylon: Jechoni′ah was the father of She-al′ti-el,[g] and She-al′ti-el[h] the father of Zerub′babel, 13 and Zerub′babel the father of Abi′ud, and Abi′ud the father of Eli′akim, and Eli′akim the father of Azor, 14 and Azor the father of Zadok, and Zadok the father of Achim, and Achim the father of Eli′ud, 15 and Eli′ud the father of Elea′zar, and Elea′zar the father of Matthan, and Matthan the father of Jacob, 16 and Jacob the father of Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ.


Luke 3:23 Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli, 24 the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Melchi, the son of Jan′na-i, the son of Joseph, 25 the son of Mattathi′as, the son of Amos, the son of Nahum, the son of Esli, the son of Nag′ga-i, 26 the son of Ma′ath, the son of Mattathi′as, the son of Sem′e-in, the son of Josech, the son of Joda, 27 the son of Jo-an′an, the son of Rhesa, the son of Zerub′babel, the son of She-al′ti-el,[c] the son of Neri, 28 the son of Melchi, the son of Addi, the son of Cosam, the son of Elma′dam, the son of Er, 29 the son of Joshua, the son of Elie′zer, the son of Jorim, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, 30 the son of Simeon, the son of Judah, the son of Joseph, the son of Jonam, the son of Eli′akim, 31 the son of Me′le-a, the son of Menna, the son of Mat′tatha, the son of Nathan, the son of David, 32 the son of Jesse, the son of Obed, the son of Bo′az, the son of Sala, the son of Nahshon, 33 the son of Ammin′adab, the son of Admin, the son of Arni, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah, 34 the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham, the son of Terah, the son of Nahor, 35 the son of Serug, the son of Re′u, the son of Peleg, the son of Eber, the son of Shelah, 36 the son of Ca-i′nan, the son of Arphax′ad, the son of Shem, the son of Noah, the son of Lamech, 37 the son of Methu′selah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Maha′lale-el, the son of Ca-i′nan, 38 the son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 10:41am On Dec 12, 2017
analize701:
lolzzzzz. The Bible is not a book like the koran, the Bible is a compilation of books. Will these people ever learn?
learn what? if its a compilation of books by dig and harry then stop telling us that its from God since the people God send did not contributed in the compilation of these books neither instructed any body to do that.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 10:36am On Dec 12, 2017
godisgood200:
What have you said now?
that Jesus had 2 contradictory genealogy in your bible. so which one do we take?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 10:33am On Dec 12, 2017
1Sharon:
Allah/ god is not a name, it's a title. Ur god should have
his personal name
Quran 20:14"Verily, I am Allah: There is no god but I: So serve thou Me (only), and establish regular prayer for celebrating My praise.
Christianity EtcRe: Was There Kaaba Before Abraham? by smoy: 10:28am On Dec 12, 2017
Chosen59:
There is nothing in that hadith to prove that the place was already raised above the level of the normal ground level in that area. What we are made to understand in the hadith is that Kaaba was already there as a place of worship, which Abraham met on ground.
re read it again now take much of the time as it required. Ibrahim built on the foundation he meet on ground, no structure what so ever.
Christianity EtcRe: Are Muslims And Christians Serving The Same God? by smoy: 2:17pm On Dec 11, 2017
Kogiboy20:
This question weak me small shai...

OYA TALK YA OWN
one said 3 gods is equal one to worship while another worship only one God
one neaded blood for salvation another siad just repent God loves the repentance
one said God begothen while another said God has no wife to beget a son
one said Jesus a man was a God but another said Jesus was Just a prophet.
one said that beloved son of God is now bigger god while another stay with that Only one God
one said God have to come down for him to understand the fillings of what he created while another said No incarnation of God its idol concept
Christianity EtcRe: Was There Kaaba Before Abraham? by smoy: 1:21pm On Dec 11, 2017
Chosen59:
You said the hadith I quoted is too long, right? Is this yours not much much longer than the one I quoted?

Anyway, the questions remained unanswered.

From your own version of the hadith I quote:

“…(Prophet) Ibrâhîm (Abraham) brought her (Hajar) and her son Ismail (Ishmael) while she used to nurse him at her breast, near the Ka‘bah under a tree on the spot of Zamzam, at the highest place in the mosque. During those days there was nobody in Makkah, nor was there any water. So he made them sit over there and placed near them a leather bag containing some dates, and a small water-skin containing some water, and set out homeward. Ismail’s (Ishmael) mother followed him saying, “O Ibrâhîm (Abraham)! Where are you going, leaving us in this valley where there is no person whose company we may enjoy, nor is there anything (to enjoy)?” She repeated that to him many times, but he did not look back at her. Then she asked him, “Has Allâh ordered you to do so?” He said, “Yes.” She said, “Then He will not neglect us,” and returned while Ibrâhîm (Abraham) proceeded onwards, and on reaching the Thaniyyah where they could not see him, he faced the Ka‘bah, and raising both hands invoked Allâh saying the following supplication:

‘O our Lord! I have made some of my offspring to dwell in an uncultivable valley by Your Sacred House (the Ka‘bah at Makkah); in order, O our Lord, that they may perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât). So fill some hearts among men with love towards them, and (O Allâh) provide them with fruits, so that they may give thanks.’ (V.14:37)

Looking at the bolded, you will discover the Kaaba was already in existence when Abraham, Hahrah and the small Ishmael got there, yet you say it was Abraham and Ishmael who built it. How could they have built what they met on ground?

The question is who built the Kaaba before Abraham got there? We heard from history that even Ishmael learnt Arabic from the original dwellers of Mecca. That shows there were people leaving there before the arrival of Abraham and Ishmael, who built the Kaaba for their idols.
i did not said yours was too long Wat i said was the one you quoted was part of the hadith

on your questions; yes if you read the hadith again you will find out that the place was already raised above the level of the normal ground level in that area so to show Abraham the location were the house shall be, no structure was there but are mark of the foundation naturally present. Abraham and Ismail now built on that mark of foundation.

no water was present in that area so it was inhabitable for human, but the dwellers later came and meet Ismail and His mother after the spring of Zam ZAm in that place and recognize them as the owner of that Vally today called Macca.
Christianity EtcRe: Which Religion Will Take You To Heaven? by smoy: 1:05pm On Dec 11, 2017
enilove:
That is a figurative expression.
The sun is good for the growth of Plant ,but for man , we need a cover (shield )from it .

This means God is a Provider and a Protector.

Jacob called his Judah a lion , does that mean he gave birth to a lion? No.
Genesis 49:1,8-9 KJV
And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days.
[8] Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father's children shall bow down before thee.
9] Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?

Why did you not say we Christians call our God a shield , since the verse says God is a SUN AND A SHIELD ?
This is figurative praise said by David to praise God.
it is now figurative but when Muhammed kisses a stone he worshiped it, bible called God a sun and shield and that is to tell you that it was surely not the jellos God that inspire for that expression in the bible but human expression. God will never call his own Majesty sun or shield but if its attribute he could say he is the source of protection.
Christianity EtcRe: Which Religion Will Take You To Heaven? by smoy: 12:32pm On Dec 11, 2017
enilove:
Pls, show it to me.
Psalm 84:11 For the Lord God is a sun and shield;he bestows favor and honor. No good thing does the Lord withhold from those who walk uprightly.
Christianity EtcRe: Was There Kaaba Before Abraham? by smoy:
Chosen59:
Abraham, Hagar and Ishmael Movement to Mecca

Ibn Abbas narrated:

"... Ibrahim brought her (Hajrah) and her son, Ismail while she was
suckling him, to a place near the
Kaaba under a tree on the spot of Zam-Zam, at the highest place in
the mosque. During those days there
was nobody in Makkah, nor was there any water. So he made them sit
over there and placed near them a
leather bag containing some dates, and a small water-skin containing
some water,and set out homeward.
Ismail's mother followed him saying: "O Ibrahim! Where are you going,
leaving us
in this valley where there is no person whose company we may enjoy,
nor is there anything (to enjoy)?"
She repeated that to him many times, but he did not look back at her.
Then she asked him: "Has Allah
ordered you to do so?" He said: "Yes". She said: "Then He will not
neglect us." and she returned
(to her child) while Ibrahim proceeded on his way.

On reaching the Thaniya (mountain) where they could not see him,
Ibrahim faced the Kaaba, and raising
both hands, invoked Allah saying the following prayer:

"O our Lord! I have made some of my offspring to dwell in a valley
without cultivation, by Thy Sacred
House; in order, O our Lord, that they may establish regular Prayer:
so fill the hearts of some among
men with love towards them, and feed them with fruits: so that they
may give thanks." [Surah Ibrahim 14
:37]..." [Sahih Bukhari Book# 55, Hadith# 583]

The above hadith narrates the event of Abraham, Hajrah and Ishmael movement to Mecca. But let us consider the salient points in that narration. Abraham left Hajirah and her son, Ishmael in the bush where there were no dwellers. He was going away from them without notice and Hajrah asked why he was leaving them alone in the bush but he didn't answer nor did he look back. Then she asked whether it was Allah who commanded him not to look back and he said "yes".

The question therefore is: since he left them in the bush by Allah's command NOT TO LOOK BACK, why do Muslims claim Abraham lived in Mecca? Does going back living with them not amount to disobedience to Allah's command after he had warned him not to look back?

And again, let's examine this statement by Abraham according to the hadith:
"On reaching the Thaniya (mountain) where they could not see him,
Ibrahim faced the Kaaba, and raising
both hands, invoked Allah saying the following prayer:

"O our Lord! I have made some of my offspring to dwell in a valley
without cultivation, by Thy Sacred
House; in order, O our Lord, that they may establish regular Prayer:
so fill the hearts of some among
men with love towards them, and feed them with fruits: so that they
may give thanks."

When Abraham left them and they could no longer see him, he said he had left some of his offspring to dwell by Kaaba that they might establish prayers. That is to say they met the Kaaba on ground. But Muslims claim Abraham and Ishmael built the Kaaba, how can that be true as Abraham left them alone in the bush and Ishmael was still a suckling?
the hadith is a very long one i will help you with this and all your question shall be answered in it.

Narrated Ibn ‘Abbâs [On the authority of the Prophet (See Fath Al-Bari, Vol. 7, Page 210)].

“…(Prophet) Ibrâhîm (Abraham) brought her (Hajar) and her son Ismail (Ishmael) while she used to nurse him at her breast, near the Ka‘bah under a tree on the spot of Zamzam, at the highest place in the mosque. During those days there was nobody in Makkah, nor was there any water. So he made them sit over there and placed near them a leather bag containing some dates, and a small water-skin containing some water, and set out homeward. Ismail’s (Ishmael) mother followed him saying, “O Ibrâhîm (Abraham)! Where are you going, leaving us in this valley where there is no person whose company we may enjoy, nor is there anything (to enjoy)?” She repeated that to him many times, but he did not look back at her. Then she asked him, “Has Allâh ordered you to do so?” He said, “Yes.” She said, “Then He will not neglect us,” and returned while Ibrâhîm (Abraham) proceeded onwards, and on reaching the Thaniyyah where they could not see him, he faced the Ka‘bah, and raising both hands invoked Allâh saying the following supplication:

‘O our Lord! I have made some of my offspring to dwell in an uncultivable valley by Your Sacred House (the Ka‘bah at Makkah); in order, O our Lord, that they may perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât). So fill some hearts among men with love towards them, and (O Allâh) provide them with fruits, so that they may give thanks.’ (V.14:37)

Ismail’s (Ishmael) mother went on suckling Ismail (Ishmael) and drinking from the water (she had). When the water in the water-skin had all been used up, she became thirsty and her child also became thirsty. She started looking at him [i.e. Ismail (Ishmael)] tossing in agony; she left him, for she could not endure looking at him, and found that the mountain of As-Safâ was the nearest mountain to her on that land. She stood on it and started looking at the valley keenly so that she might see somebody, but she could not see anybody. Then she descended from As-Safâ and when she reached the valley, she tucked up her robe and ran in the valley like a person in distress and trouble, till she crossed the valley and reached Al-Marwah mountain where she stood and started looking, expecting to see somebody, but she could not see anybody. She repeated that (running between As-Safâ and Al-Marwah) seven times.”

The Prophet said, “This is the source of the tradition of the Sa‘y (the going) of people between them (i.e. As-Safâ and Al-Marwah). When she reached Al-Marwah (for the last time) she heard a voice and she asked herself to be quiet and listened attentively. She heard the voice again and said, ‘O (whoever you may be)! You have made me hear your voice; have you got something to help me?’ And behold! She saw an angel at the place of Zamzam, digging the earth with his heel (or his wing), till water flowed from that place. She started to make something like a basin around it, using her hands in this way and started filling her water-skin with water with her hands, and the water was flowing out after she had scooped some of it.”The Prophet added, “May Allâh bestow mercy on Ismail’s (Ishmael) mother! Had she let the Zamzam (flow without trying to control it) (or had she not scooped from that water) (to fill her water-skin), Zamzam would have been a stream flowing on the surface of the earth.”The Prophet further added, “Then she drank (water) and suckled her child. The angel said to her, ‘Don’t be afraid of being neglected, for this is the House of Allâh which will be built by this boy and his father, and Allâh never neglects His people.’
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The House (i.e. Ka‘bah) at that time was on a high place resembling a hillock, and when torrents came, they flowed to its right and left. She lived in that way till some people from the tribe of Jurhum or a family from Jurhum passed by her and her child, as they (i.e. the Jurhum people) were coming through the way of Kadâ’. They landed in the lower part of Makkah where they saw a bird that had the habit of flying around water and not leaving it. They said, ‘This bird must be flying around water, though we know that there is no water in this valley.’ They sent one or two messengers who discovered the source of water, and returned to inform them of the water. So, they all came (towards the water).”The Prophet added, “Ismail’s (Ishmael) mother was sitting near the water. They asked her, ‘Do you allow us to stay with you?’ She replied, ‘Yes, but you will have no right to possess the water.’ They agreed to that.”The Prophet further said, “Ismail’s (Ishmael) mother was pleased with the whole situation as she used to love to enjoy the company of the people. So, they settled there, and later on they sent for their families who came and settled with them so that some families became permanent residents there. The child [i.e. Ismail (Ishmael)] grew up and learned Arabic from them and (his virtues) caused them to love and admire him as he grew up, and when he reached the age of puberty they made him marry a woman from amongst them.

After Ismail’s (Ishmael) mother had died, Ibrâhîm (Abraham) came after Ismail’s (Ishmael) marriage in order to see his family that he had left before, but he did not find Ismail (Ishmael) there. When he asked Ismail’s (Ishmael) wife about him, she replied, ‘He has gone in search of our livelihood.’ Then he asked her about their way of living and their condition, and she replied, ‘We are living in misery; we are living in hardship and destitution,’ complaining to him. He said, ‘When your husband returns, convey my salutation to him and tell him to change the threshold of the gate (of his house).’ When Ismail (Ishmael) came, he seemed to have felt something unusual, so he asked his wife, ‘Has anyone visited you?’ She replied, ‘Yes, an old man of such and such description came and asked me about you and I informed him, and he asked about our state of living, and I told him that we were living in a hardship and poverty.’ On that Ismail (Ishmael) said, ‘Did he advise you anything?’ She replied, ‘Yes, he told me to convey his salutation to you and to tell you to change the threshold of your gate.’ Ismail (Ishmael) said, ‘It was my father, and he has ordered me to divorce you. Go back to your family.’ So, Ismail (Ishmael) divorced her and married another woman from amongst them (i.e. Jurhum).

Then Ibrâhîm (Abraham) stayed away from them for a period as long as Allâh wished and called on them again but did not find Ismail (Ishmael). So he came to Ismail’s (Ishmael) wife and asked her about Ismail (Ishmael). She said, ‘He has gone in search of our livelihood.’ Ibrâhîm (Abraham) asked her, ‘How are you getting on?’ asking her about their sustenance and living. She replied, ‘We are prosperous and well-off (i.e. we have everything in abundance).’ Then she thanked Allâh, Ibrâhîm (Abraham) said, ‘What kind of food do you eat?’ She said, ‘Meat.’ He said, ‘What do you drink?’ She said, ‘Water.’ He said, ‘O Allâh! Bless their meat and water.’ “The Prophet added, “At that time they did not have grain, and if they had grain, he would have also invoked Allâh to bless it.”The Prophet added, “If somebody has only these two things as his sustenance, his health and disposition will be badly affected, unless he lives in Makkah.” The Prophet added, “Then Ibrâhîm (Abraham) said to Ismail’s (Ishmael) wife, ‘When your husband comes, give my regards to him and tell him that he should keep firm the threshold of his gate.’ When Ismail (Ishmael) came back, he asked his wife, ‘Did anyone call on you?’ She replied, ‘Yes, a good-looking old man came to me,’ so she praised him and added. ‘He asked about you, and I informed him, and he asked about our livelihood and I told him that we were in a good condition.’ Ismail (Ishmael) asked her, ‘Did he give you any piece of advice?’ She said, ‘Yes, he told me to give his regards to you and ordered that you should keep firm the threshold of your gate.’ On that Ismail (Ishmael) said, ‘It was my father, and you are the threshold (of the gate). He has ordered me to keep you with me.’

Then Ibrâhîm (Abraham) stayed away from them for a period as long as Allâh wished, and called on them afterwards. He saw Ismail (Ishmael) under a tree near Zamzam, sharpening his arrows. When he saw Ibrâhîm (Abraham), he rose up to welcome him (and they greeted each other as a father does with his son or a son does with his father). Ibrâhîm (Abraham) said, ‘O Ismail (Ishmael)! Allâh has given me an order.’ Ismail (Ishmael) said, ‘Do what your Lord has ordered you to do.’ Ibrâhîm (Abraham) asked, ‘Will you help me?’ Ismail (Ishmael) said, ‘I will help you.’ Ibrâhîm (Abraham) said, ‘Allâh has ordered me to build a house here,’ pointing to a hillock higher than the land surrounding it.’”The Prophet added, “Then they raised the foundations of the House (i.e. the Ka‘bah). Ismail (Ishmael) brought the stones and Ibrâhîm (Abraham) was building; and when the walls became high, Ismail (Ishmael) brought this stone and put it for Ibrâhîm (Abraham) who stood over it and carried on building, while Ismail (Ishmael) was handing him the stones, and both of them were saying,

‘O our Lord! Accept (this service) from us. Verily, You are the All-Hearer the All-Knower.’” (V.2:127).

The Prophet added, “Then both of them went on building and going round the Ka‘bah saying ‘O our Lord! Accept (this service) from us. Verily, You are the All-Hearer, the All-Knower.’” (V.2:127)

[Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol.4, Hadith No.583].
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 8:11am On Dec 11, 2017
fellowman:
Quran 66 vs 2

Quran 40 vs 28



Sahih Bukhari (50:369)

Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka'b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad's insistence. The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka'b's trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad. This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered.

Quran (3:28)
This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves" against danger, meaning that there are times when a Muslim may appear friendly to non-Muslims, even though they should not feel friendly.
attention seeker
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 7:51am On Dec 11, 2017
fellowman:
your Koran say Jesus was given birth to by a virgin.

Joseph was not his father but people thought he was his father.

thirdly how did God put the baby in Mary's belly did he give her something to swallow?
No, the Christian believe that God spirit went to her and she conceived. That's the explanation.
see yourself, i said bible gave him these father and you are telling me people thought,
address the 2 different contradictory genealogy of Jesus in the bible first.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 7:47am On Dec 11, 2017
Maamin:
I thought you as a Muslim believe Jesus did not die on the cross to begin with. Which of the Jesus spoke those Aramaic words on the cross again?

The Confusion your self proclaimed religion has put you in is cosmic. grin
1 corinthians 12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

My query is these: the guards were protecting the entrance of the tomb where Jesus body was laying after brought down from the cross to prevent the body of Jesus from been stolen dead or alive by his love ones

My Questioned; then why bribing the guards by the same authority and why should the guards lie that his body has been stolon (is this logical) is that not his primary assignment?

if the job of the authority guards of the Israelite was to protect the tomb from stealing the body of Jesus and the body could not be found on the Sunday morning then we should know that the guard are to be seriously dealt with for negligent of duty

but on the contrary, there were rewarded by bribing them, to lie that what? (something must be fishing)

My findings:from the bible
1.that Jesus can not die on cross just for 3hrs(bones of the others were broken because they were not dead yet, Jesus was never broken, why?)
2.that Jesus was in comma lay in the tomb (he was well beating, tired and then fainted and bible said he gave up spirit matt 27:50)
3.that he regain his conciseness and roll the stone on the entrance(spirit dose not need door to the tomb entrance.why rolled back the stone?)
4.that the guard were drunk and sleep off (there was wine for all including Jesus while on cross matt 27:34 & 48)
5.that he disguise and flee the scene to become a Gardner (ghost disguised! why?)
6.that the guard were later bribed to lie that Jesus has became ghost and escaped(resurrected) because that is the only way the guards and town chiefs could be vindicated (matt 28:12-15)
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 7:44am On Dec 11, 2017
fellowman:
Uthman burned many Qur'ans (I wonder why this doesn't create many riots). Each of the Qur'ans burned were slightly different than his official version. Uthman, not wanting different opinions, then burn all versions he consider "false".

The thing is, how does he know that the version he burned is the false one and the one he keep is the correct one?

This means that drastic changes occurred. After all, "Why were the other copies and fragments ordered to be burnt? " The answer is found in the original statement: "Hudhaifa was afraid of the different recitations of the Qur'an "
Hudhaifa did not want different versions of the Qur'an.

Since all other copies of the Qur’an were ordered to be burned, what was wrong with them? Is the Qur’an pure as believed by modern day Muslims? Since the decision to burn all other Qur’ans was politically motivated, the Qur’an of today reflects the political whims of early Muslim political leaders, not the prophet Muhammad. Questions like this will never be answered. But it is certain that the Qur’an of today is not the original Qur’an recorded only 2 years after Muhammad died.
you have been reading jagons from your likes websites if you need real history of Islam it is readily available for you. get your soul one.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 7:41am On Dec 11, 2017
1Sharon:
The name of god is not Allah! Allah is not a name it's a title!

What is ur God's name?
Allah is the real name of Almighty God.
Al -Malik, Al- Qudus, Al -salam are the title and attribute of Allah.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 5:50pm On Dec 10, 2017
1Sharon:
Interesting. So Judaism and Christianity that precede Islam are manmade but Islam isn't?

When anyone reading the Quran can tell its a pervertion of the Bible
exactly, Islam is the only religion for all the prophets.

quran and bible cant be compared at all because the pure words of God is different from that of combination of man mad historian record of events, and for the bible, it suppose to be a book from God but unfortunately is not because the book that God gave Moses and the God gave Jesus are no where to be fund today only what we have is gospel according to Matthew, according to Mark, according to Paul, the question is where is the gospel according to Jesus.
Christianity EtcRe: 12 Simple Questions For My Muslim Friends by smoy: 5:39pm On Dec 10, 2017
folafola:
Before running into biblical stories why not solve these?!better still write your question and send to me or post on my forum or WhatsApp then I will answer you

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only here i know, all your clear assumption was answered but you are free to ask more. but for me how did Judas died?
Christianity EtcRe: Which Religion Will Take You To Heaven? by smoy: 5:36pm On Dec 10, 2017
enilove:
You are deceiving yourself. It says you will be in hell pending the judgement day. Muhammed is in hell pending the judgment day. This means he has been suffering in hell since he died , likewise all other Muslims that have died.

I will not go to hell with you Muslims , in Jesus name.

Islam is a false religion , 100 % false.
All the stories of prophets you read in the Quran were from the bible . Muhammed and his thugs had copy of the Bible from which they copied the stories.

Original always comes before the fake is produced.

The God of the Bible is Holy but the God of the Quran is unholy
Volume 4, Book 54, Number 445:
Narrated Abu Dhar:
The Prophet said, "Gabriel said to me, 'Whoever amongst your followers die without having worshipped others besides Allah, will enter Paradise (or will not enter the (Hell) Fire)." The Prophet asked. "Even if he has committed illegal sexual intercourse or theft?" He replied, "Even then."

It is ignorance to think murders , kidnappers , thieves, ritualists and adulterers will go to heaven as long as they are Muslims.It is the lie of the devil to send you to hell.

God told Abraham : Genesis 17:1 KJV
And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the Lord appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

Jesus told: Matthew 5:48 KJV
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

The disciples of Jesus also warned us in: Galatians 5:19-21 KJV
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these ; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
[20] Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
[21] Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things SHALL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD .

Revelation 22:10-13 KJV
And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. [11] He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. [12] And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. [13] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Don't believe Muhammed , he was not a holy prophet:
Allah SWT says:

وَإِذَا بَدَّلْنَآ ءَايَةً مَّكَانَ ءَايَةٍ ۙ وَاللَّهُ أَعْلَمُ بِمَا يُنَزِّلُ قَالُوٓا إِنَّمَآ أَنْتَ مُفْتَرٍ ۚ بَلْ أَكْثَرُهُمْ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ
"And when We substitute a verse in place of a verse - and Allah is most knowing of what He sends down - they say, "You, [O Muhammad], are but an inventor [of lies]." But most of them do not know."
(QS. An-Nahl: Verse 101)

Why the corrections? Did Allah not know it was wrong b4 bringing out the wrong revelation that had to be substituted ?
Yes , he did not know because he is not the Almighty God but a Satan in disguise.
why all this raking,do you know that your god is sun? in your bible.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 6:10pm On Dec 09, 2017
shadeyinka:
Your gross ignorance is exceeded only by your ignorance concerning the subject of Jesus as revealed by your assertion.

No need for a response
you running away?
Christianity EtcRe: 12 Simple Questions For My Muslim Friends by smoy: 5:53pm On Dec 09, 2017
folafola:
You actually tried I like your boldness but some of the question was parried to throwin

Is Quran uncreated or created?!!

Tawheed according to Islamic scholars means unifying making Allah one!!

So was Allah revealing muhamad traveling to Muhammad??

So the frowning of muhamad is a revelation to Muhammad?!!

Who said bisimilahihuh

No need to reframe!! Show us the oldest manuscript with those diacritical marks on them

I will give you ref for adult breast feeding and lice on MUHAMAD

So Allah forgot to explain how it was made to appear so

There is purgatory!!!
while waiting for your next assumptions my question is how did Judah died.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 5:31pm On Dec 09, 2017
fellowman:
smoy you know the Koran say you need to LIE to further the course of Islam so I understand.

so when you tell all these lies, I just laugh because I know that you know that we know that you lie.
quote the Qur'an verse
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 5:29pm On Dec 09, 2017
huh
MightySparrow:
Muhammad didn't understand the concept of either or both Judaism and Christianity. He plagiarized the scriptures, deceived the Arab world who in turn, out if ignorance, carried his deception to the world.

All happenings in today's Israel is according to prophecy. Islam itself is prophetic not according to the stand of Muhammad and his Apostles...

Jerusalem' will be rebuilt, The Mosque will go down, There will be a military gathering against Israel with Islam as the unifying force.
Jesus will come, that time Jews eyes will be opened, Islam lies will be revealed.

Biblical prophecy a force that cannot be silenced. ..




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Christianity EtcRe: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 5:23pm On Dec 09, 2017
shadeyinka:
The truth is always constant no matter how you try to exlain it. The Allah of the Arabs had three daughters but the Allah of Mohammed has no children can't you see that these are two different Allah's. The Allah of mahommeds father was simply upgraded to the status of the God of the Jews QED


Who are the three Fathers of Jesus if I may ask?
you just repeating yourself.

for the Jesus who all know that has no father but bible gave him 2 contradictory genealogy only two names are in common of this long list (matt 1 and Luke3)
but Matthew gave him Joseph as father the same Matthew say he is child by the holy ghost and at the same time son of God, 3 farther what do you call such child in your local language ? every thing in Christianity is a guess work and confusion no certainty.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 10:22am On Dec 09, 2017
shadeyinka:
The end justifies the means to you isn't it.
How is Polytheism defined in Islam? Associating partners with Allah! And you say Arabs worship Allah as Allah before Mohammed!?

They worshipped Allah as one of the idols (chief idols) in the Kaaba. You can't change history!

Just an evidence for you to know that the Arabs worshipped an idol called Allah. Their Allah had three daughters al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat: true or false
BUT,
The Allah of Mohammed does not have any child does he?

Two question above for your response please!

Can you find an equivalence in Islam?
You Muslims don't know other than rewriting history!
that is not true, they worship one Allah but use the idols to get to the one Allah and again that is not true to say that they worship al-lat and al-uzza together with Allah including their idols is a big fallacy, they know that know one sees Allah they don't even had Allah's image.

and for your foul talks; Quran cannot be author of confusion as bible gave 3 different father to Jesus, what a genealogy, what a book.
Christianity EtcRe: 12 Simple Questions For My Muslim Friends by smoy: 10:10am On Dec 09, 2017
folafola
Q1. everything you can see, passive, imagine write, living, nonliving, are all creations of Allah with His will power of BE and it Comes to Be. (including Jesus are all created by Allah)

q2. tawhid means ones of Allah

q3. Exalted is He who took His Servant by night from al-Masjid al-Haram to al-Masjid al- Aqsa, whose surroundings We have blessed, to show him of Our signs. Indeed, He is the Hearing, the Seeing.

that was not dream but reality and one of the miracle of Muhammad and for the surah 80 ist a warning like of account from Allah to Muhammed when he wonted to use his own logic to answer and gave attention to some rich and influential people in the society instead of him answering the blind man that has good intention to be a Muslim even when the former were not really sincere . they came almost the same time but he chooses to answer the rich first b4 the blind man.

q4.say Allah is one and Only. the Quran is reveled to humanity to follow so Allah need to tell us how to do begins everything.

q5.Alif- Lah- Mim these are not the name of Allah. they are alphabets that Allah alone know what its combinations means

q6.rephrase this question pls .

q7. provide your Authority pls

q8. those questioned were not answered in the Quran they of the future which Allah did not see necessary to mention to us.

q9.no variation in the Quran, only the language in which Qur'an is translated to may have variation due to human understanding but for the recitation of the Qur'an we have 10 ways of reading them and sometimes the writing follows the way they are recited.

q10.not every thing in that happen was narrated to Muhammed in the Quran Allah only say that he made it to appear to the but how we dont know, maybe Judas was replaced( this from me) but we what is certain and proven is that Jesus did not die on the cross from bible and Quran.

q11. quote your evidence pls

q12.yes for the muslim that combine the good the bad and the ugly they shall test the fire but not for ever but for the good muslim no fire shall touches them and for the unbelievers the shall abide in the hell for ever.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 9:25am On Dec 09, 2017
shadeyinka:
It is the 12 sons of Ishmael that founded the Arab nation. Ishmael couldn't have been an Arab just like Ishaq couldn't have been a Jew. You are avoiding the obvious truth since Arabs were idolaters until the coming of Mohammed. Abi, what were 360 idols doing in the Kaaba and why do the Meccans profit so much from the yearly pilgrimages to the kaaba?
do you need the genealogy of Muhammad for you to know that Ismail son was the father that father till Muhammad?
simple logic that Ismail followed religion of his father and that was the origin of monotheist in the Arabian land but as the passage of time they started to worship idol believing to connect them the the one Allah. Muhammad only came again to set the record strait for the humanity in total.
Christianity EtcRe: Which Religion Will Take You To Heaven? by smoy: 7:48am On Dec 09, 2017
YoungMILITANT:
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Christianity EtcRe: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 7:47am On Dec 09, 2017
shadeyinka:
Are Jews also Arabs since Abraham was the father of Jacob. You didn't get the point.
no is you that don't get it, in your bible God promises Abraham of multiple nations, Jew and Arab are inclusive.
Christianity EtcRe: Which Religion Will Take You To Heaven? by smoy: 7:44am On Dec 09, 2017
enilove:
And when death comes to a Muslim , where would he go?
Hell. You have to pray for the judgement day to come b4 you die , if not , Muhammed and Allah will send you to hell.

Volume 1, Book 12, Number 770:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The people said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?" He replied, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the full moon on a clear (not cloudy) night?" They replied, "No, O Allah's Apostle!" He said, "Do you have any doubt in seeing the sun when there are no clouds?" They replied in the negative. He said, "You will see Allah (your Lord) in the same way. On the Day of Resurrection, people will be gathered and He will order the people to follow what they used to worship. So some of them will follow the sun, some will follow the moon, and some will follow other deities; and only this nation (Muslims) will be left with its hypocrites. Allah will come to them and say, 'I am Your Lord.' They will say, 'We shall stay in this place till our Lord comes to us and when our Lord will come, we will recognize Him. Then Allah will come to them again and say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say, 'You are our Lord.' Allah will call them, and As-Sirat (a bridge) will be laid across Hell and I (Muhammad) shall be the first amongst the Apostles to cross it with my followers. Nobody except the Apostles will then be able to speak and they will be saying then, 'O Allah! Save us. O Allah Save us.'

There will be hooks like the thorns of Sa'dan in Hell. Have you seen the thorns of Sa'dan?" The people said, "Yes." He said, "These hooks will be like the thorns of Sa'dan but nobody except Allah knows their greatness in size and these will entangle the people according to their deeds; some of them will fall and stay in Hell forever; others will receive punishment (torn into small pieces) and will get out of Hell, till when Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell, He will order the angels to take out of Hell those who worshipped none but Him alone. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the traces of prostrations, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. So they will come out of the Fire, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. At that time they will come out of the Fire as mere skeletons. The Water of Life will be poured on them and as a result they will grow like the seeds growing on the bank of flowing water. Then when Allah had finished from the Judgments amongst his creations, one man will be left between Hell and Paradise and he will be the last man from the people of Hell ......
sweet religion called Islam, every thing is well elaborated, thanks for propagating Islam.

on that day for more explanation every body including you shall pass on that small tine bridge, under this bridge is fire and for who ever was a good Muslim shall pass as if he never pass on it but for bad muslims many may fall inside but later shall be pardon and lead to Paradise for their percentage of believe, but for those that never believe in One Allah and his prophet Muhammad shall be in the Hell forever.

for the first part of the hadith you quoted, it tell you that you that worship other gods like 3 gods shall be condemned on that day.

now my question is that do you know that your god in the bible is SUN?
Christianity EtcRe: Which Religion Will Take You To Heaven? by smoy: 7:13am On Dec 09, 2017
enilove:
You are right , I am an unbeliever of Islam as a way of salvation. Why should I face an ordinary building and pray to it. More so , there is an open idol attached to the building.

Volume 2, Book 26, Number 710:
Narrated 'Asim:
I asked Anas bin Malik: "Did you use to dislike to perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa?" He said, "Yes, as it was of the ceremonies of the days of the Pre-lslamic period of ignorance, till Allah revealed: 'Verily! (The two mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwa are among the symbols of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who performs the pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or performs 'Umra, to perform Tawaf between them.' " (2.158)

Volume 2, Book 26, Number 675:
Narrated Zaid bin Aslam from his father who said:

"Umar bin Al-Khattab addressed the Corner (Black Stone) saying, 'By Allah! I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit nor harm. Had I not seen the Prophet touching (and kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed) you.' Then he kissed it and said, 'There is no reason for us to do Ramal (in Tawaf) except that we wanted to show off before the pagans, and now Allah has destroyed them.' 'Umar added, '(Nevertheless), the Prophet did that and we do not want to leave it (i.e. Ramal).'

Volume 2, Book 26, Number 680:
Narrated Az-Zubair bin 'Arabi:
A man asked Ibn 'Umar about the touching of the Black Stone. Ibn 'Umar said, "I saw Allah's Apostle touching and kissing it." The questioner said, "But if there were a throng (much rush) round the Ka'ba and the people overpowered me, (what would I do?)" He replied angrily, "Stay in Yemen (as that man was from Yemen). I saw Allah's Apostle touching and kissing it."

Three Gods in one , that is united , makes sense than stone .
Jesus gave eyes to the blind, raised 4 days old dead man , healed​ the sick healed​ the cripple , healed the Lepers , walked on the sea , did not kill, did not marry another person's wife , did not take people as slaves. He went about doing good.
I would rather believe him and follow him than to follow an old man of 55 years who married a girl of 9 years and also married his adopted son's wife. He went about killing innocent souls and was proud to be a terrorist. No miracle except the sexual miracle of 30 men.

Muhammed's testimony:
Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268:
Bukhari
Narrated Qatada:
Anas bin Malik said, "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa'id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven).
You call Muhammed a Prophet? Whose Prophet was he , God or Satan ?

Testimony of Jesus :
Matthew 4:23-24 KJV
And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.
[24] And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them.

Original always comes first b4 the 419 starts producing the fake of it.

Bible , Christianity first b4 fake Islam came 600 years later with shedding of blood and terrorism.
thanks for the quotations so in all what yo quoted show me where they worship the stone or a building, Alhamdullilah i am a Muslim.

in your faculty of reasoning worshiping 3 gods is better that kissing a stone? Muhammad never worship the stone but worship the God that created the stone and the God of the building as well as God of all what been created including Jesus.

my questioned to you now is show me were Jesus or God in your bible said you should worship the 3 gods.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are There Many Muslims In Israel by smoy: 6:56am On Dec 09, 2017
cooljude:
I quoted to you to rebuff your claim about Allah being the authentic God of Hebrews. Your statement was false.
Mark 15:34 At three, he uttered a loud cry, “Elohi! Elohi! L’mah sh’vaktani?” (which means, “My God! My God! Why have you deserted me?”)

those that sound like Allah or not, Jesus uses Allah.

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