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Olabenjamen22:
Mr, if i may ask who is going to curse you? Well as for me, no entity(allah) can curse anyone my father in heaven as bless.

Talking about Arabic bible, have you ever read the history of how bible was translate to Arabic and who translate the bible to Arabic?
Unless the person don't want his head to be remove from his neck by your dead Muhammad why won't he use allah, i will urge you to read the history. And meanwhile your Malaysia Muslim have said the truth.
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/24/world/asia/malaysia-allah-ban/index.html

And bros, well Satan(allah) is never and will never be my creator, maybe yours sha.



Then why is your brother making mockery of my own concept of God, or you will claim you don't see his comment. So hypocrite.




Lol, well for your information, The Jesus i know is different from the clone Jesus you know, my own Jesus don't lie.

so you still here, you haven't reply me. still waiting.

ebenice:
you will well not to drag the bolded to your replies


Now, does this mean every word Muhammad spoke were all documented verbatim by his friends? And if that's the case, then it same as saying Muhammad was the sole author of the Al Quran.

how then can one prove it was Allah that gave him all the wordings, and he didn't made it up, since according to you it doesn't needs a 3rd witness.

logic, for a person that know nothing before now telling us the stages of human formation in the mothers belly in the desert of the Arabian peninsula of then where no meas of scientific advertisement to study, science has just yesteryear discover this phenomenal.

that is of embryology, and for geography the science just discovered the big bang of the creation of heath and galaxy few years ago but Qur'an has mention this over 1400 years ago.

how could he have know all this if he is the maker of the Qur'an? this can only be know by the creator who know the beginning and end i.e Allah(GOD) and then transmitted to Muhammad as revelations. these are among the miracles of the living witness called the Qur'an.

Shhhh01:
thank u. I now understand

well come my sister.

Shhhh01:
I understand. Divorce in a court is what I'm asking?

yes she can file for divorce in court of law even with the traditional weeding but the Husband can out-rightly divorce her wive without going to court but it need to be documented.

Shhhh01:
File for divorce at a court? For a traditional wedding

i said before that either traditional or nikah as far as they met the criteria for wedding they are all recognized by Islam and they have the will to divorce.

paxonel:
The few times Jesus went to the synagogue, there was one problem or the other.
It's either they were buying and selling there, or they will argue with him, or the disciples admiring the temple building(like Nigerians admiring Canaan land at ota and currently in kenya) which Jesus told them it will collapse someday.

sure my brother, even Christianity was never precise by Jesus, never.

after all no evidence of Jesus ever attend church in the bible

Shhhh01:
but dowry can be returned and marriage annulled for second wife who did not do nikkai. Right?

she is not obliged to return the dowry if two of them have slept together as husband and wive but if she dose not wont the marriage any more she can file for divorce.

Shhhh01:
Hi guys. A very short but mind boggling story. A christian woman did traditional marriage to a muslim man, before d marriage he promised not to coerce her into doing a muslim wedding or change her religion. After d wedding tins took a weird turn. He started pressuring her to do Nikkai nd change her name in d process. She out rightly refused that she was xtian not Muslim and that was not their agreement. He also told her no registry/court wedding. He was once married to a lady, his first wife. They did nikkai n trad wedding. She was a xtian. He changed her name too, but due to issues known to dem they separated. No divorce. Just separated and live apart. After some years he met d second lady n did only trad wedding for her. No nikkai no registry. He claimed he did no registry for first wife only nikkai n trad. For second woman only trad. In d eyes of man n God who is d legal nd true wife of the man? Please share your views. Xtians nd muslim family! Who Is d true wife of d man?

as far as he paid the dowry for the 2 of them with the consent of the parents, witnessed by people either traditional or nikah they are all his wife in Islam

Nbote:
Oga U jus goofed... So it is d hugging and mingling dat is d cause of immorality in d "Christian society" So what is d cause of d immorality in d Muslim society

see your most dominant christian society and compare that to Muslim predominant state and tell me the outcome, be sincere to yourself.

Nbote:
If U were morally correct why would u b lusting afta anyone who isnt ur wife? If U are supposed to b praying then U are suposed to b praying.. Are u saying even inside d house d woman is allowed to pray beside her husband or is still relegated to d back?

i don't know if you try quoting me, watch the church predicament where your can hug and mingle freely with somebody's wife and what is the outcome of that in the Christianity society today, immorality is the order of the day.

nairavsdollars:
Today is Jumat service and i notice Muslim men stay at the front during prayers while the women are asked to stay behind. Someone said it is a form of discrimination. How true?

can you imagine yourself as a man standing behind a lady you have lost chemistry for, and this lady is bowing and prostrating with all her figure 8 displaying in your front, you will loose control of the prayer and the concentration shall never be they again. you suppose to focus and committed to your God during worship. Islam is logical even morally.

praiseneofingz:
people tend to pray before chewing any thing in their mouth which is very ok.

mine is " I cover and sanctify this food with the blood of Jesus Amen"
add urs and let the fun begin....



lala please FP I will like to have many audience on this

Bismillahi-Rahmani-Rahim (in the name of Allah the beneficent the Merciful)

alBHAGDADI:
It is now clear you didn't read my post.

Now vamoose!

ok, and its now clear that Jesus did never said He was God or worship Him, He was not more than a prophet of God. believe this for your salvation bro.

alBHAGDADI:
Didn't my post just proved to you that Jesus is worthy of worship?

Muhammad is dead and tottered in Saudi Arabia.

Kindly refute the evidences I laid on this post, instead of stamping creeds on me.

now you the coach, show me where Jesus said I Am Lord or Worship Me? he never say so and can never say so.

enilove:
Who is the god of the muslim ?
Muhammed was the prophet of allah not the prophet of the righteous God of the Christians.

Allah is not God Almighty but god of the idol worshippers :

Volume 1, Book 1, Number 3:

Bukhari
Narrated 'Aisha:

..................
The Prophet added, "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read and I replied, 'I do not know how to read.' Thereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read but again I replied, 'I do not know how to read (or what shall I read)?' Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me, and then released me and said, 'Read in the name of your Lord, who has created (all that exists) has created man from a clot. Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous." (96.1, 96.2, 96.3) Then Allah's Apostle returned with the Inspiration and with his heart beating severely. Then he went to Khadija bint Khuwailid and said, "Cover me! Cover me!" They covered him till his fear was over and after that he told her everything that had happened and said, "I fear that something may happen to me." Khadija replied, "Never! By Allah, Allah will never disgrace you.

Was Khadija not a pagan ? A pagan worships his or her idol by the name of their gods or idol.

Idol worshipper b4 muhammed used to perform . The muslims do so now.

They used to Tawaf , the muslims do likewise.

They used to throw stones at Satan , the muslim do the same.

They used to kiss the meteorites or black stone , the muslims do so now.

Islam retained many aspects of pagan religion in the name of one god .

Why is allah related to allat, the goddess idol , in name?

Allah SWT says:

أَفَرَءَيْتُمُ اللّٰتَ وَالْعُزّٰى
"So have you considered al-Lat and al-'Uzza?"
(QS. An-Najm: Verse 19)
وَمَنٰوةَ الثَّالِثَةَ الْأُخْرٰىٓ
"And Manat, the third - the other one?"
(QS. An-Najm: Verse 20)

أَلَكُمُ الذَّكَرُ وَلَهُ الْأُنْثٰى
"Is the male for you and for Him the female?"
(QS. An-Najm: Verse 21)
* Via the Beautiful Qur'an https:///QLwc8B
تِلْكَ إِذًا قِسْمَةٌ ضِيزٰىٓ
"That, then, is an unjust division."
(QS. An-Najm: Verse 22)


Volume 2, Book 15, Number 72:
Bukhari
Narrated Aisha:

Abu Bakr came to my house while two small Ansari girls were singing beside me the stories of the Ansar concerning the Day of Buath. And they were not singers. Abu Bakr said protestingly, "Musical instruments of Satan in the house of Allah's Apostle !" It happened on the 'Id day and Allah's Apostle said, "O Abu Bakr! There is an 'Id for every nation and this is our 'Id."

Their Id is satanic worshipping.

The god of the muslims is residing in the kabaah .

but this is not the topic baba.

alBHAGDADI:
It is common these days to see people posing a question to Christians on social media and even in debates with the question always in one same manner. The question usually comes from Atheists, Jews, Muslims and even heretic Christians. They wonder why we see Jesus as God and worship him.

So they ask "Show me Where Jesus said "I am God worship me?" in those exact words.

You might become confused at this moment if you are not smart. Yes, you know you can't find anywhere in the Bible where Jesus said such in those exact words, so you might be quick to quote some classical verses that show Jesus Christ is God.

Well, the person asking that question has been trained in such a way that no matter the amount of verses you quote, he won't believe you unless you show him where Jesus said "I am God worship me" in those exact words. Now he has boxed you in the "exact words" corner. The only way you can get out is to pull him into the corner to make him see how stupid it is dealing with exact words. I bet you, he will be the one to open the door for the both of you to leave the corner once he realises how stupid it is. How do you do that? You flip the question back at him. You say...

"I'll be willing to show where Jesus said 'I am God worship me' in those exact words only if you can show me where he said 'I am only a prophet, do not worship me' in those exact same words. At that moment, he will start to realise the error of requesting for exact same words. To stamp it on him, if he's a Muslim that believes according to the Quran that Jesus was born of a virgin, then ask him to show you in the Quran or Bible where Jesus said "I am born of a virgin" in those exact same words. If he can't, then it means his belief that Jesus was born of a virgin is false.

The idea behind the above is to ensure you are not dealing with exact words. If the Jew, atheist, Muslim or heretic Christian can't show you anywhere in the Bible or Quran or any book where Jesus said these exact words "I am only a prophet, do not worship me" or "I am born of a virgin", then it means he shouldn't require of you to show him where Jesus said the exact same words "I am God worship me".

Once you have passed that, you can now ask a more reasonable question.

WHERE AND HOW DID JESUS CLAIM TO BE GOD?

According to the Jews, Christians and Muslims, there are certain claims only God can make. All 3 religious beliefs hold the same view about God in that regard. That is why I am going to use the Old Testament, the New Testament and the Quran to see if Jesus made claims that only God can make.

1. Who is the "First and the Last"?

Let's start by quoting the Quran

Sura 57:3
He is the FIRST and the LAST, and the Outward (His signs appear on all His creatures) and the Inward (Hidden). And He is the All-Knower of everything.

Now let's read from the Old Testament

Isaiah 44:6
New International Version
"This is what the LORD says-- Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the FIRST and I am the LAST; apart from me there is no God.

Since both the Quran and the Bible agree that God is the First and the Last, should a prophet refer to himself as such? But that is what Jesus Christ did in the verse below.

Revelations 1:17-18
When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the FIRST and the LAST. I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.

Can you tell us what Jesus meant when he took a title that can only be applied to God and applied it to himself? If he wasn't claiming to be God, then what was he doing?

coach master just look at yourself. your life,death and salvation depends in the oneness of God as it was brought by the Moses as well as all other prophet of God which Jesus affirmed to this fist of the all commandment, now you are here brain washing your fellows to accept Jesus who eat and drank as your Lord and savior hook line and sinker even when the subject rejected that heavy title,

Qur'an said In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
1. Say, “He is God, the One.
2. God, the Absolute.
3. He begets not, nor was He begotten.
4. And there is nothing comparable to Him.”

Now my advise to you is to accept Jesus as prophet of God and accept Muhammad as prophet and only God deserved to be worshiped, He shall never share His glory with anybody including Jesus.

Olabenjamen22:
so you admit that your Allah is completely useless and a dead god that cannot help himself not to talk of helping his followers. Ogun is even more powerful than your Allah.

read Jeremiah 14:14 for your answer pls

Olabenjamen22:
Lol, what did you learn from it.
The first one make a mistake during his translation, the second one correct the mistake, or did you think translating an old language is a easy task? Can you please translate "igba" from yoruba to English.

mistake!!! then how many mistake does the bible contained because i have them by tones, another mistake indeed:

Rumor or tidings ?
Obadiah 1:1 The vision of Obadiah. Thus saith the Lord God concerning Edom; We have heard a rumour from the Lord, and an ambassador is sent among the heathen, Arise ye, and let us rise up against her in battle.(KJV)

1:1 The vision of Obadi′ah.Thus says the Lord God concerning Edom:We have heard tidings from the Lord, and a messenger has been sent among the nations:“Rise up! let us rise against her for battle!” (RSV)

Olabenjamen22:
Lol, which version said son and which version said servant? And please quote the verse. Lol...... Still waiting for the day you will receive sense.

Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our ancestors, has given divine glory to his Servant Jesus. But you handed him over to the authorities, and you rejected him in Pilate's presence, even after Pilate had decided to set him free. (good news)

13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.(KJV)

Olabenjamen22:
Lol, the most foolish thing on earth is accepting a god that cannot perform miracle but claim to create heaven and earth. Lol so terrific.

The dumbest person on earth is the one that worship a god(allah) that cannot fight for himself but order his follower to fight for him. Lol, even ogun don't order his follower to fight for him. Powerless allah

little wonder, miracle monger! without miracle your god is not living. that is why Jesus will reject you on the last day.

Olabenjamen22:
Lol, asking me where the origin bible was, is like me asking you where the original quran, dumbest question

lol can you show me where there is different in there version. Or can you tell me the different between ascend, elevate and go up?

Did only different in them is the ability of there simplicity of English used.

son and servant are they the same in meaning?

Olabenjamen22:
Lol, asking me where the origin bible was, is like me asking you where the original quran, dumbest question

lol can you show me where there is different in there version. Or can you tell me the different between ascend, elevate and go up?

Did only different in them is the ability of there simplicity of English used.

son and servant are the same in meaning your translation of your bibles.

Olabenjamen22:
Lol, is that what you get?
Mr lier

that is why you cold easily accept 3 gods to your head as 1, little wonder, Mr. educated literate. low processing power.

Olabenjamen22:
how many bible Mr dumb head?,
even the topic said which bible version did you like, not which bible did you like.

that is the reason why i ask you did those compile translate the bible or they write the bible? But you failed to answer that question again, you must be the must dumbest in your class. Lol

what you people are so dumb to comprehend is that. The bible was translated by different company into English language not that the bible was written by those complain. Tsk maybe your imam may have some spare brain

Mr. educate literate where are the original bible they translated from? let me break it down for you since your processing faculty of analysis is very small; since all these version of bible has many contradicted verses they can not be translating from one copy.

Olabenjamen22:
Lol, well i don't expect an educated illiterate to reason normally before. If i may ask how did fasting enter what me and the guy was discussing? Or are you as dumb as the guy too?

get more help, beginner

Olabenjamen22:
Lol, i saw it but i don't yoke with an educated illiterate so that i will not be draw down to there level.

If i may did those complain e.g.
King James, good news e.t.c. Translate the bible or they write the bible?

the question is for you to answer the educated literate. but those are the bible your faith is build upon

Olabenjamen22:
Are you talking about the one you run away from?
Lol
"dico"
lol that word must be inside late Muhammad diary since i can't find the word "dico" inside dictionary not to talk of the meaning of rubbish you wrote. Trash

which one did i ran from? are you written novel for mahdino, leaner that you are that you don't know the linkage of fasting with old laws that Jesus did not come to abolish

Olabenjamen22:
Lol, is that English?

have you contributed to the debate going on about the different types of bible on this forum? which one is your best? Queen James or King James abi na Judas Version.

Olabenjamen22:
Lol, is that English?

check ur dico, mr. questioner how far with your questions hope i answer them

Olabenjamen22:
Lol, you answer my question one by one meanwhile all the question have been asking you are pending for answer. So funny
those that are following you will just be laughing at your ignorance and lies. Lol. Well i don't need to open another trend because this trend have already show the level of your hypocrite. Mr lier that claim Jesus call himself slave of god but cannot provide where Jesus say that, lol are you so eager to prove your false religion. Smh

are u chicken out

1 corinthians
12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.