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Sooo how do you want us to help you again?

This decision should have been made like 6 years ago. People like to complicate things sha, now a child is going to be brought into this confusion. Thell your friend only him can answer the question. Only him knows if he can cope with the attitude. I mean he has already coped with it for 8 long years

Natasha,,:
hehe shy one na wa for you o well sha you are right my mum is 42 and she has 8 kids yet the woman is still beautiful and damn she's sexy I dont know how cos she doesn't do anything special she sure looks better than so many young girls including this 45 year old woman you posted

We would have believed you if you did not go and say she looks better than Stacey Dash lol That one was too much

ahn ahn why are pictures of my wife being posted here?

same reason why diamonds are expensive, why petrol prices are up, why ferrari's cost an arm and a leg. There are so few of them and everyone wants them so it is harder to attain them. I recommend you ginga your swagga when approaching them

My guy what really happened? Did you try and toast her only to find out she was taken? And you decided to rant about it here? Just because she is married doesnt mean she should not look good/sexy.

Litmus:
snwanduv wrote:
There is no such thing as “free” government except in meaningless philosophical debate so it is obvious I did not mean that but thank you for drawing my attention to the mistake.



I do not know why you brought this up but for your information, I’m not in the least interested in tags such as “Giant of Africa” or Ghana. However, I have noticed that, this particular thing seem to bother many so called “Nigerians” on this and many other discussion boards. You only have to read a little and sooner or later someone comes up with a statement similar to 'we keep calling ourselves Giant of "Africa" when we’re not' and then the next thing, “look at south Africa, look at Kenya, see how great they are” etc etc. Therefore as a Nigerian let me inform the many jealous and envious none Nigerians on the board that the phrase originally- and this is only my opinion – was born out of Nigeria’s misguided sense of Black and Africa Pride. During the era of Rhodesia and South Africa and Oil wealth, when Nigeria was very active in the fight against apartheid, Giant of Africa Tag was in part a counter to the negative image of Africa as a continent of helpless nations. Flushed with oil wealth and a realisation that Nigeria needed a foreign policy, which reflected its beliefs, Giant of Africa served as a warning to the world outside that Africa was henceforth to be reckoned with because Africa had in Nigeria a nation that could fight back in some senses.  “Giant of Africa” was not meant, as a “show-of thing” so please all you narrow minded none Nigerians out there; please take it easy, we meant no harm. You are all welcomed to the tag.  Ghana, Somalia, Kenya South Africa, Togo you’re all Giant of Africa O.K.


If someone were to ask me what I want for the future of Nigeria, apart from the usual things that fall under the tag Development, it would be for a united Nigeria and a policy focused on Nigeria and not on Africa. I am in a sense not good for Africa. If I had my way, all none Nigerians, if possible, would be expelled from Nigeria and we’d spend all our energy and finances on Nigeria. This is going to sound terrible but if I am honest, I do not much care about the rest of Africa.   



I am from Delta. Personally, I don’t mind all Nigeria benefiting from oil wealth. However, the cost to the environment in Delta from the discovery and exploitation of oil has been high. My personal belief is that Nigeria should make the Delta area a sort of protectorate, give it some sort of dispensation, carry out a form of Marshal Plan for the area. Nigeria should make it a goal, with the consent of the indigenes, to Dubianise the Delta. As a Deltan, I would find it more helpful if  all the people who seem so concerned about our plight, start criticising the Government in this direction instead of encouraging armed conflict in our region which does nothing for us but serve only to further their interest in a division of the county along ethnic lines. 



Having stated all that, I still say a post like this, whose effect might be to encourage people to kidnap and kill Politician and their children, is disgraceful. It is very Un-Nigerian and ought to be deleted.

Maybe i am wrong but i took the title and the first post of the thread as a satire. Have you read "A Modest Proposal" by Jonathan Swift? He talks about killing and eating children in order to alleviate their burden on their poverty stricken comment. It was a satire on how the poor where being treated in Ireland and the stupid solutions that society at that time were coming up with. Its main goal was to start conversation.

I read Enziga's post like that. But trust Nigerians to bring in God into the matter, lol

@ the Giant of Africa comment.
Regardless of the original intent, when Nigerians say it, we say it as a show off thing. Maybe "show off" is too harsh a word. I'll say intense Pride. I say it also to non-Nigerians and of course it would be met with resentment.

@the Delta issue

Yes i personally do not see a problem with that (i am from Delta also, the non-oil part, lol). But remember Saro-Wiwa tried the non violent approach and look at what happened to him, and he did not get far with it. There are somethings in life only violence can resolve. I dont know if this is one of them but its getting to that point. Violence should be a last resort but i am scared we are running out of options.

@Enziga, there is no need to kill the kids. Especially if they have not done anything. Kill the politicians and leave everyone out of it

michelin89:
Why do you all assume that the poster is a Ghanaian? Can't a Nigerian be a critics of their own country?

it could be because his name is Blacksta, The Blackstars of Ghana

i dont see the problem. Of Course we are a case study of what NOT to do. No insult, FACT

@Enziga

I have heard people say for Nigeria to be helped, everyone over 40 years old should be killed. I think that and your suggestion is too drastic as usual. Maybe killing only the corrupt leaders themselves. Yea you are saying they have killed families and so on. But you dont sink to the level of your oponent because at the end of the day there will be no way to tell the difference between you and them.

Remember

[size=8pt]GOD IS NOT MOCKED[/size]

Litmus:
There isn't an idea more fanciful than the notion you can progress an African nation, in this current Media Age, through the barrel of a gun.

In my estimation, Nigerians are the freest people in the world today and probably turning out to be the laziest and moaniest. The state and police dose not watch Nigerians or seem to care what they do. Television ownership  has not reached the stage of wide ownership were it can effectively act as  an organ of state control over the lives of the citizens  as it does in Britain and many western democracies. Nigerians do not pay taxes to any conventional extent.  You want material to build something, just go to the local bridge and tear off a railing, want to drive a car, just learn to steer the car straight and wala! You’re a driver. Power is unreliable but many still get what little there is free of charge. People can just erect a shed wherever they like and start trading. No one hurls them up before the public prosecutor for miscellaneous offences such as driving polluting vehicles, urinating or spiting on the road. People are not taxed for ownership of land. In England you are taxed for everything, I have even seen fresh air soled in bottles.  When Americans talk of free government, essentially they mean what you have in Nigeria. They want government to stay out of their lives – sure, take care of the infrastructure, but let me get on with it. If the law cant or want take care of criminality I want the right to bare arms so I can do it myself.  I over simplify but that is the picture.

Nigerians in many instances live in the equivalent of a frontiers environment and in the history of the world; people traditionally create something from nothing,informed by nothing more than imagination,  strength of their character, through sweat and through tears in just such environments. Ordinary Nigerians ought to be encouraged to do what they used to do, which is work hard and be imaginative in order to attain a reasonable, good or excellent standard of life and not encouraged to seek quick fixes through extortion and the barrel of a gun. The history of Africa is one big lesson about the futility of armed struggle. I remember a time when Nigerians often won prizes for furniture making in Italy. You want a tricycle go round to your local woodworker and he’d knock you up one out of wood. Nigerians are the best in arts and craft in Africa .Even in the past the nations that today make up Nigeria produced the most sophisticated artwork in all of Africa. Where are the people who once would have spotted the markets? For example, people who would have created tennis academies in order to exploit the major money to be made from starlets just as John Fashionu tried to do with football academy trials. Where are those people who would once have developed Kai-kai into a marketable brand on the international market? Where are the grape growers to crate a Nigerian wine? Where has all that tradition of hard work, innovation and thrift gone? I recon it has been dashed on the rock of lies that we, who have made it abroad, heap in front of them. We fool them and we fool ourselves in prescribing an idealised West lifestyle portrayed in films and adverts for all Nigerians when in reality the West have not achieved that universal standard for all citizens. If Nigerians back home worked half as hard as we have to work abroad they would gain all those material things that they seem to think is the alpha and omega of life. 
   
As an aside, let me tell the originator of this thread something that he or she either may not know, because he/she is young, not actually Nigerian or embittered by fool notions about what it means to be developed.  Nigeria has reached a stage were it can be said to poses a national character.  I do not believe that Nigerians have yet defined that character; foreigners whose mischiefs are informed often by racial prejudice have only prescribed it for us. Thus, we are thieves and fraudsters accordingly.  Nevertheless, Nigeria does have a character - meaning the people who make up the geographic area, because of proximities and cross-cultural contact – do share a number of values. I cannot kill what it is with one phrase but that character has all of the following in it.  Nigerians are not envious people. Nigerians respect and aspire to traditional African values. Nigerians are hard working. Nigerians value education. Nigerians value respect very highly. Nigerians have an expansive social life.   I know that some will argue that other African share some of the things I mentioned, which is why, if forced to identify characteristics I believe exclusive to Nigerians, I would say Ambitiousness, Kindness and abhorrence to Jealousy. This is why so far the reaction to the proposal of the thread has met with horror.



The above is my experience as a Nigerian I don’t care what anyone says in contradiction or sites as an example to our contrariness. 

In the meantime, the thread really should be removed for inciting violence and murder. I believe that if the incitement had been made in reference to white people, the thread would been removed in no time.

That is a beautiful story, you should take up work in the Fiction writing industry. If you write a book, i will be first in line to get it.
The reality is that communities of people have been tormented in the Niger-Delta area for decades. Their oil is being taken from them and used to fund the whole nation, i mean the government officials, while they get less than nothing from it. By less than nothing i mean, they lose from it. Their homes, environment, etc, That is only one of our several issues. We call ourselves the Giant of Africa, for what reason? Maybe our population, but thats it. Small Ghana has overtaken.


America does not talk about "free" government, you might have meant to say small government. And that is the republican parties philosophy not all of America's.

Todak it seems you are refusing to think

Just because the bible does not say it does not make it false. The bible stops at a point, it is historical fact that the Roman Catholic Church is the oldest established church. It was the Major if not Only church for a long time shortly after Paul's Death till Martin Luther and the Protestant Revolution.

The CHurch in Rome was already in full bloom 50 years after Christ died, and by 100 AD it had become the dominant church. The church in Rome became known as the Roman Catholic Church.

The church prayed to the East. FACT. A lot of the old Catholic Churches were built oriented to the East, FACT

I do not know or care if the bible says we should pray to the east, the FACT is that the Early Christians prayed to the east. FACT!! That is what i am saying. This does not require extrapolation of scripture or bible knowledge. This is what happened.

This is Historical Fact that can not be disputed. The Bible is not the sole document of Christian History. The Bible does not go past the the Apostolic Age(the era of the apostles). It definitely does not have anything of record past 100 AD.

And no i am not afraid of an internet character, i am just irritated at your refusal to open your eyes. Believing this Historical fact is not sending you to hell.

todak:
Jews use/used these verses as rational to pray to the east
Ezekiel 43:1-2
“Then he lead me to the gate which faces the east, and there I saw the glory of the God of Israel coming from the east”

and Ezekiel 43:4

“the Glory of the LORD entered the temple by the way of the gate which faces the east”


My Gracious God!!!!!!!!!!! , and this point specifically to the early christians, haba why do people give assumption, i hate assumming, here, Ezekiel was talking about the Glory of GOd which entered throught the East gate, so the only interpretation you could give to it is that, is it is the criteria for the early christians right? and does it refer to them, or rather does it refer even to the jew, concerning worshiping God facing the east, well, the verses speaks for them selves. as they do not refer to any form of worship

And from the website(in red), does any biblical verse qouted supports their claim, it was assumptions, kaii

As the lightning comes from the East . . so shall the Son of Man appear" Mt 24:27).

So this verse proves that early xtians faced the east, or could convince them?

"The Orient is his name" (Zec 6:12)

What has this got to do with mode of worship?

Finally, heaven is also the eternal home that we desire. Facing the East was therefore thought to be a way of peering into Paradise, which God had "planted in the East" (Gn 2:,

how dare them think, why did they think? it is not there, but cos of the prominence of East, it was thought, without any biblical backup for such


It is by reason of an unwritten tradition that we turn to the East to pray.

Where did they get that tradition from, From the bible, from christ or judaism?

I did not say Islam copied Christianity. What i meant was that it is one of the traditions that are similar to all 3 faiths. And we all know that Judaism was the first of the 3, so if there is a similarity, it is not wrong to guess it came from Judaism.

It wrong to guess from a wrong pespective, mr.

If you are not going to think or read please dont bother to respond.

The article was talking about Early Catholic traditions. And as Catholicism was the first established church it goes along with what i am saying. Except you know more about the History of the catholic church than the authors of the article. Is it my fault the early christians assumed? The fact is that they assumed it and practiced it. I never said the bible told us to, all i said was early christians used to pray to the east. Please stop trying so hard to be right and try to learn.

I did not post the verses to prove that it was fact they prayed to the east. I used the verses to show their rational. And those verses were not used to show why Christians used to pray to the east. I clearly stated it was Jews that used this.

Research the history of the catholic church(thus early christians). There are several similarities between all 3 religions and that is one.

@todak
http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?id=1353&CFID=6342212&CFTOKEN=22157184

Jews use/used these verses as rational to pray to the east
Ezekiel 43:1-2
“Then he lead me to the gate which faces the east, and there I saw the glory of the God of Israel coming from the east”

and Ezekiel 43:4

“the Glory of the LORD entered the temple by the way of the gate which faces the east”

I did not say Islam copied Christianity. What i meant was that it is one of the traditions that are similar to all 3 faiths. And we all know that Judaism was the first of the 3, so if there is a similarity, it is not wrong to guess it came from Judaism.

todak:
@ snwanduv

It was customary for Early Christians also prayed towards "East" (Jerusalem) so did the Jews. It started with the Jewish religion which of course influenced the other 2.

And where did you get your facts from, i will like to know more about that, and the infection to islam

@Olabowale
Muslims dont pray towards the east or west or north or south. Rather Muslims pray toward Kaaba; their Qiblah dear to the heart of Muhammad (AS) by Allah's design.

[/color]May i ask why?

Proof of this structure as the structure that Muslim must pray towards, you have to see what people are doing in the Mosque which hused this structure the Kaaba.Everyone in that Mosque, Haram prays facing this structure. Everyone in larger Makka Metropolitan prays towards the Mosque in the process of praying towards Kaaba. Everyone in Surrounding towns and cities and villages prays facing Makka. Everyone in that region and worldwide prays towards the general direction of Makka, hence Masjid Haram, hence specifically Kaaba.

[color=#000099]There must be a specific hidden agena to this, since allah is not a pagan god, why then an insruction to prya towards kabba, just like that, at least one should be free to pray towards any palce, i feel, but then explain in details, olabowale

If you are on the west side of Saudi Arabia, Makka, Masjid Haram, Kaaba, you face the east. If you are in the East, you face the West, if you are in the North, you face South, if you are in South, you face North, whereever you are you face that structure; Kaaba.

Something must really be cooking, this is driving the whole thing to paganism, so if I pray to allah facing the west of kabba, my prayer woul not be answered?, allah can not give such instruction with out a good reason to that, olabowale help with it

Adam faced it; the soil and site existed beoire him. Noah faced it. So did Ibrahim who rebuilt it, after the flood of Noah with the help of his son Ismail. Ibrahim still has a station where two Rakah are made by those who make hajj and umrah.


You have started with your fruitless lies, heh, show me in the quran all you have mention, where they faced and bowed to allah, do not qoute an hadith for me,

I am going for Everton, i always root for the Underdog except ofcourse Man Utd is playing

wow, i dont know if you meant to come off like this, but as a outsider you are coming off as desperate, but its just my opinion

Moslems dont neccessarily pray towards the east. They pray towards Mecca.

It was customary for Early Christians also prayed towards "East" (Jerusalem) so did the Jews. It started with the Jewish religion which of course influenced the other 2.

could be because they just dont care enough to post a pic