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Eritrean:
Funny Somalis

I've seen this kind of ignorance amongst habeshas too though...

Horner:
we somalis superior to the bantu ape negroid race named nigerians, fufu gorillas

Just kindly shut up and go away, you stupid troll.

Why are you even here? Just to insult?

nubian999:
It use to be Jamaican men but naija men are in fashion now with Somali girls in the west. and this e pain em


Nl trolls are from Mogadishu the home of alshababa but they spend their time on nl while claiming benifits with their mothers!! Talkin effeminate nonsense.

Most Somali women are beautiful inside and out so i too feel their pain but all is fair in Love and War. I Love my Naija Brothers; Sometimes

The vast majority of Somali women still marry Somali men. It's always been a small minority who marry outside. That's true for all people really. This idea that certain men or women have "betrayed their race" etc is pure BS and creates lots of unnecessary conflict and division amongst people.

Even African American men, who get a lot of hate by their women for supposedly preferring white and Latin women, predominately marry their own. Studies have shown this to be true yet the myth of the African American man who hates his own women continues to persist.

It's just that the ones who marry outside their group tend to stick out for breaking the norm, so everybody then assumes that it must be some kind of "epidemic".

Honestly, Somali women are no different than any other kind of women. We've got the good, the bad and the ugly like everyone else. I've seen just as many beautiful West African women as I've seen Somali women.

Saronna:
Preach brother! The majority of our people think they're better than everyone else even their own people that they divided into tribes! Smfh, they think their pride is gonna get them somewhere but forgot to realize that Allah hates one who walks with pride nd curses on such inviduals!

Yeah true. I'm guessing you're Somali too, sis.

Wulfruna:
"Did you lose your girl to one of them?"



Interestingly, at least one person who used to post on this forum asked this question once before.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this is the reason behind their Nigerian obsession. They are very insecure.

Why are you losers so obsessed with Nigerians and West Africans? Did you lose your girl to one of them? You clearly have some type of inferiority complex. If you truly felt superior to these people, you would not be spamming their forum 24/7, bragging about insignificant BS like hair texture, beautiful women etc.. How many West African trolls do you see on Somali forums? None! Why? Because they generally don't give a damn about you or your soft hair. Meanwhile here you are obsessing over Nigerians and looking extremely insecure in the process.

These Nigerian "adoons" generally tend to be the highest educated minority in countries like the UK and the US. So while you're bragging about your soft hair like an effeminate little punk, these men are making some real money and are being successful in their lives. You're making us all look pathetic even though you probably think that you're "defending our honour" in your sick, demented mind. We Somalis have nothing to do with you.

Take a step back and think about what you're doing. You're on a Nigerian forum, insulting Nigerians for no reason whatsoever. That's what insecure little punks do. A man who is secure in himself does not need to constantly reaffirm his "superiority" nor does he even value irrelevant BS like physical features etc..

You have some deeply seated issues that you need to fix sxb'yaal. This level of obsession is definitely not normal.

Teeda kalena why are you so obsessed with Nigerians and West Africans? Did you lose your girl to one of them? You clearly have some type of inferiority complex. If you truly felt superior to these people, you would not be spamming their forum 24/7, bragging about insignificant BS like hair texture, beautiful women etc..

These Nigerian "adoons" generally tend to be the highest educated minority in countries like the UK and the US. So while you're bragging about your soft hair like an effeminate little punk, these men are making some real money and are being successful in their lives. You're making us all look pathetic even though you probably think that you're "defending our honour" in your sick, demented mind.

Take a step back and think about what you're doing. You're on a Nigerian forum, insulting Nigerians for no reason whatsoever. That's what insecure little punks do. A man who is secure in himself does not need to constantly reaffirm his "superiority" nor does he even value irrelevant BS like physical features etc..

You have some deeply seated issues that you need to fix sxb. This level of obsession is definitely not normal

Reflect on how effeminate it is for a man to brag about his soft hair and thin nose.. Wtf.. You're humiliating us as a people. Have some class and stop insulting people for no reason, you khat-chewing welfare recipient..

Somalia252:
Lol warya adiga Somali Bantu matahey ? .

Ku wan jareerta racist aa naqu wacen. Are you happy about that?

99% of these people have never even met a somali. If they think that we're all racists, it's because of idiots like you who spam their forums and degrade them for no reason.

Ninyahoow ilaahi ku abuurtay ka cabso and stop disgracing our culture. You make us look insecure and pathetic.

Why are you insulting Nigerian people in their own forum, you shameless subhuman ape??

You come off as very insecure and are shaming the very culture that you claim to represent. I'm not even sure that you're a Somali to begin with.

VomeSchakleton:
For God's sake you ignorant imb.eciles, there are no "bantus" in Nigeria. Not that there's anything with being one anyway. And honestly I'm starting to think you guys are being lied to, because it seems you guys actually believe other people are backward when your major export is "livestock". Smh

These imbeciles are a disgrace and should be banned. Too bad the forum policies do not allow for IP-bans..

Somalia252:
You Niggers are Lucky today because a Somali visited your website.

You're probably not even Somali. Car af-Somali kuhadal, khaniisyahow..

Somalia252:
I have seen Black men step over 10 fat Black women with weaves (black men can jump) to try and get a chance with and Somali/Ethiopian/Eritrean woman.

Why is this? Is it self hate? Are Black men brain washed into liking anything that is them? I HAVE noticed that Black Americans worship Somalis/Ethiopians. Whether it be our history, women, features, culture.

Go away you stupid troll. Stop embarrassing Somali people, you filthy xoolo.. You're a disgrace.

Fulaman198:
The trolls have been quiet for some time. If they ever strike again, they will be banned (which they have been on numerous occasions). I think I mentioned this before that we don't ban by IP here.

Is it because you have many members who post from net café's?

Rivertemz:
yes this comment was made before you replied to me about your point of view so sorry ignore it lol

Ok bro, no problem

Rivertemz:
stop calling other nigerians primitive for backfiring these trolls and start schooling your somali brothers about respecting us.
The only reason why we reply to these trolls is because our Mods don't do anything about them, let them post BS regularly and post pictures of your women.
These threads are then searchable on google, people would see the racism and hate spread form these Somalis online. a lot of the pictures and posts are taunting nigerians and spreading this type of somali supremacy, it making a lot of Nigerians dislike Somalis that they've never seen before.

I'm not allowed to state that I believe one person's logic is primitive? Why are you making this Nigeria vs Somalia? I was arguing with one Nigerian person, not the whole nation. And I rep myself, not my entire people.

As for what you said regarding the trolls, then I wholeheartedly agree with you and I have spoken up against them as much as I could.

TheTransformer:
A guy that has openly told me he is no longer a muslim but just has to pretend for his mother and father is still a muslim right?

i asked him does he want to be a Christian, he said he wants to be a "floater" (according to his own words)... that is the person you are saying he is still a muslim?

This is Nigeria, to be particular Southern Nigeria, we have freedom to abandon any religion - there are no consequences whatsoever!

I never said that he was Muslim. Re-read my post. I said that drinking and partying does not take you out from the fold of Islam. If your friend says that he is a disbeliever, I believe him.

I'm not really sure why you expect me to be surprised that some Muslims are leaving Islam. Many atheists and Christians are coming to Islam as well. What's the big deal? There have always been people who adopt different religions and ideologies.

Rivertemz:
Oh yes ive known Yemenis to be close with Somalis, and I consider Yeminis to be more a bit more African than arab, they have cultural ties to the horn right?

Yes true, it'll be kenyans or others, but you'll barely find a Nigerian trolling your forums, we barely do that, but these somali trolls on nairaland could cause a wave of that actually happening. It has tempted me before, im being honest, you'd think trolls shouldn't effect how we perceive others, but it can actually work in their favour when they do it constantly.

Yemenis (especially in the South) carry our genes. There's also been a lot of cultural exchange over the centuries.

Yeah I know how trolls can negatively effect you. At one point I kept seeing a lot of hate against Somalis from African Americans, Caribbeans and other Africans who didn't even live around Somalis. Then I noticed that there were Somali losers on their websites who were insulting them for no reason.

This whole thing started way back in the day when African Americans started to fetishise East African women. I remember a thread from like 2002 on a UK based Pan-Africanist forum where some African American guy was degrading his own women and praising Ethiopian and Somali women. All hell broke loose as you would imagine.

Insecure Somali trolls started attacking him. African American women and women of West African descent began insulting East African women, EA women got involved. That thread was literally hundreds of pages long. It also spawned numerous similar threads.

The egos of HOA women were naturally inflated. Insecure HOA men began to attack WA men and this crap spilled into every black forum lol.

Add to that the fact that race and DNA forums began to fixate on Horners and many whites began to differentiate between Horners and West African, claiming that the former were mixed and not really "Negro". Again this caused plenty of petty conflicts.

TheTransformer:
And just because Somali Christians are virtually non-existent in Somalia does not mean they are not in Kenya, USA and UK where there is COMPLETE freedom of religion and in these areas grown up children live in their own apartments (accomodation)...

There are so many people from muslim families that are no longer muslims in USA and UK simply because they do not live with their families anymore... i mean a lot...for example i have a muslim friends that drinks and clubs... he doesn't go to mosque except he goes to his parents house during sallah - he is just a muslim in front of his family members... that is all.

People who drink and party can still be Muslim though. They're misguided but are still Muslim as long as they still believe and do the basics.

I'm aware of atheist/Christian ex-Muslims, but they are still a very small minority.

Rivertemz:
Thank for your response,
I'll reply to your points with my respective opinion on it.


This is true, but that is more of a caste/social idea about lighter or darker skin, it's never an argument, it's only directed towards linking light skin with beauty and women, and linking dark skin with strength and men. But another reason for Western (white) standards that have been perpetuated all over Africa. But our discussion involves nationalities within Africa, our relations, our cultural exchange and support. But these somali trolls have not allowed Nigerians (in Nigeria) to support Somalis on a social-networking level.


The jamaicans did the same thing to us Nigerians in the 80s and they'll live to regret that because Nigerians have contributed to the Black-British experience and they know we can be their biggest ally in the demographic, we have also intermarried with them, but we still hold very seperate values from them, don't mix us up with Jamaicans, they're great, but they can be hypocritical.


show me proof of this, ive gone past somalinet before and ive never seen this, give me a link of nigerians on your forums doing this and ill believe you


Until I see one with my own naked eye then ill believe bro and the fact that a percentage of the Somali community turn away from that coupling should be concerning to you, not looked over. The same with the Nigerian community, it's gonna take a looonnnng time before that's the norm mate. In that time it will be the norm for nigerian muslims only, many nigerian christians exist more in the UK tho.
And you seeing your sisters with other africans instead of arabs or whites is good, but we both know somalis either mostly marry somali or arab
Tell me what you think of arabs? I thought somalis were cool with them, are you?

The trolls on Somali sites have mostly been African American or Kenyan. I'm not making this up as I used to be very active on somalinet and some other forums many years ago. I never said that they were Nigerian. My point was that we get trolls from other African nationalities as well. We even get Ethiopian trolls.

I'm actually quite shocked that you haven't seen Nigerian/Somali couples in London. I know personally of two and have heard of others in the past. Yes, it's a problem that many Somalis will disown the couple, but I'm seeing progress. It takes time to change certain mentalities.

Religion is always going to be factor though, let's face it. I really don't see that as a problem and I would personally not get offended if a Christian woman rejected my advances based on my religion. Religion is about more than just colour, culture etc., it's about spirituality. People who share similar convictions are going to find it easier to get along in the long run.

As for Arabs, then I'm cool with most of them. But certain Arab nationalities have some cultural vices such as wife beating, which is why I would never marry my own sister or daughters off to them unless the guys are exceptionally good. I know of far too many cases of domestic abuse in that community. Not all Arabs do this, but certain nationalities from amongst them are known for this. Same with Asians (of all religions).

Horners usually intermarry with Southern Yemenis who are culturally and genetically very similar to us (many of them are black or mixed). Northern Yemenis are closer to Saudis. Domestic abuse is very frowned upon in our community and the clan will usually take back their daughter if the husband mistreats her.

TheTransformer:
You dont take the opinion of one mis-informed and hateful Nigerian to judge 150 million people... the guy is just an i.d.i.o.t.

I'm not judging all Nigerians. I know plenty of Nigerians. I generally admire a lot about Nigerian culture such as the huge focus on education, family values etc.

But at the end of the day, we all have our own perspectives based on our own subjective realities. Both of you could be right based on what you've seen in your own environments.

TheTransformer:
Dumb i.d.i.o.t... did i touch a nerve small boy? You are just too st.u.pi.d to speak for all Nigerians. There are Somali Christians in Kenya, UK and USA....

The thing must have pained you... lol... may you die of your foolishness... small pikin with china phone...

1000 Somali Christians in Somalia... is what you mean... du.mb a.ss!

They are a very small minority. There are even atheists etc.. But these people are known and are extremely small in number. They also tend to be ostracised from the community except for a few well-known families up north such as the Mariano family.

Rivertemz:
Primitive?? don't comment about my own family when it's the same for every Nigerian family, stop right there because you sound just like your somali brothers that troll on here 24/7. Secondly isn't that the same for MANY somali families, how dare you ignore your own hypocrisy, watch your tone, because you're starting to sound like these trolls

And i didn't ask you about other horn-african intermarrying each other, obviously that happens and obviously Horn african nations are closely related, that's not what this topic is about.

You've raised some good points. I just thought that Nigerians were more open-minded than Somalis.

Somalis are tribalists by nature and would even look down on whites, Arabs etc.. It's a very unfortunate trait that is found in all nomadic communities.

Back in the day, they would even look down on ethnic Somalis who did not live the nomadic lifestyle (fishermen, craftsmen, city dwellers etc). Entire clans were ostracised and dehumanised because of such ignorance.

Rivertemz:
first of all, im not here to degrade your somali background or culture so don't tell me'stfu', don't get heated this is my opinion and point of view.

Im merely stating that i have never seen a nigerian & somali link yet, If it exists then its very very rare. I live and grew up in London, with a large Somali community, I went to school with somalis, have a lot of somali friends.

I'm already aware that there are some somalis that date Caribbean, that's nice but it's also very very rare, don't pretend like somalis are not a little racist against west-africans and carribeans, especially the older generation, calling other africans 'adoon' and all that nonsense. It's similar in reverse, other africans are a bit rude towards somalis.
But the younger generation are more open, I also know your communities are very religious (very islamic).

This is 2016, but africans are still divided over cultural and ethnic lines, more time would change things.

You are the first ever somali person on the site that doesn't actually BS 24/7 about us, so im very surprised we are even having this discussion, just realize that a percentage of somalis will continue to talk sh*t about us, it's partly your job to change that mindset in your own communities especially if you like going on nairaland.

Since those trolls started coming on here (~2010) they've been spreading extreme hate, hate towards Nigerians who have never seen or spoken to somalis before, most nigerians on here have never left nigeria to visit the diverse communities of africans in places like the UK or Canada with a lot of cool Somalis. So now their first impressions of Somalis are of racist, rude and vile East-Africans

So the image these trolls have painted have been very damaging, i saw your new thread, you are right, the mods should ban those trolls, but we've already asked them to do so and they still haven't yet. Please i need to know and see these nigerian-somali couples you're talking about if its true, so i can show the trolls their BS

You're right. I should not have told you to stfu for simply sharing your perspective. That was very rude of me and for that I apologise.

Secondly, yes I'm not going to lie, many Somalis have a general dislike for Africans who look "Bantu". There are many reasons for this, but they are all based on ignorance. But let's not pretend like other Africans do not look down on each other based on skin pigmentation, culture and religion. Racism is not exclusive to Somalis.

Anther reason why many Somalis, particularly in the UK, hate West Africans is due to the fact that when the first large communities arrived in the UK back in the 90's, the Jamaicans gave them hell and used to harass them simply for being different.

With that said, the younger generation tends to be far more open-minded than the older one.

I haven't got pictures of Somali/Naija couples, but I've spoken to women who are married to Nigerians and they are very proud of it. Some sections within our community might ostracise them for marrying someone who is foreign, but they personally don't seem to care.

Me personally, I'd much rather have my sisters marry African Muslims than Arabs or whites.

As for the trolls, then sadly these people thrive on the attention that people give them. These losers actually believe that having soft hair makes them superior. Reflect on how effeminate it is for a man to seek pride in his facial features lmao.

We get plenty of African trolls who post pictures of starving Somalis on Somali forums as well so I guess it's just the nature of social media which creates these slimy losers who crave the attention.

The only reason I even signed up here was to dispel a few myths and distance my people from these little worms. I absolutely do not blame anyone who responds in kind to these animals. The blame is squarely on these trolls who antagonise people on their own forum.

TheTransformer:
Nigerian men marry can marry any woman of any Nationality as long she is beautiful or well behaved.
Nigerian women can marry any man of any Nationality as long as he is well behaved or has a decent income...
This includes Somalis also..... Nigerians are not that racists.

That's exactly my point. I've never heard of Nigerians being that close minded. It's not like we're talking about Asians here...

TheTransformer:
Somalian trolls only roam in the "culture" section to insult West Africans as "fufu" people and tell us how they are not black or white... bla bla bla!

They're a bunch of losers who love the attention. Why are they not banned? It seems like they are allowed to roam freely and start fights with people.

As for Somali culture being different from other horn cultures, again, the difference between Muslim Somali culture and Muslim habesha or Oromo culture is very minimal. Oromo and Somalis intermarry all the time. Tigre people from Eritrea are nomadic Muslims just like us and we get on quite well with one another. I know of Somali/habeshas who are married. I also know people who are half Somali half habesha. One girl I know has a father who is Amhara and a mother who is Somali.

You really don't know what you're talking about.

And if your parents really are that narrow-minded, then you must come from a very primitive family.

Rivertemz:
pleeaaase i beg you show me the proof and reciepts of nigerian men marrying or dating Somalis ??
It's very very hard to believe
Yh I understand that this site has several somali accounts devoted to trolling nairaland, I know somalis in person, I know you're not all ignorant and rude towards other fricans.
But when it comes to Nigerian men marrying or dating somalis, from what i know that's impossible..
mainly due to a huge difference culturally when compared to other horn africans. Personally if my family caught me dating a somali girl they'll disown me

I know of at least two women in the UK who are married to Nigerian men. Somali women marry other blacks such as Jamaicans, why wouldn't they marry a Nigerian?? Don't believe the BS that these Somali trolls spew on here. This is 2016, anybody can marry anybody.

Somali culture is not all too different from the culture of Muslim Africans so a Muslim Nigerian would have a lot in common with a Muslim Somali, especially if both of them were raised in the West.

I have plenty of Nigerian friends (Hausa, Yoruba, Igbo etc).

Stfu, your family would not "disown" you. You're just trying to appear "uppity" lol.

Hi

I was wondering why this forum tolerates all the trolls who frequent these pages? Especially the Somali trolls. Why aren't these punks being banned from here? They derail every other thread and post nothing of value. All they do is cause hate.

Rivertemz:
I still don't understand why Somali women are being mentioned on this thread.
Who's asking for them?? I've never met a Nigerian guy or girl that will ever date a Somali, so people don't get over your heads, stop mentioning Somalis

There are plenty of Nigerian men who are married to Somali women. Don't hate on Somalis based on a few stupid trolls on Nairaland.

GERALD710:
You mean 'facts'that many dreamy eyed westerners try to paint of even slumy places of India as 'vibrant places of innovation '?

Read the actual articles and research papers. This isn't a matter of personal opinion. Your logic is quite primitive to say the least.

Poor infrastructure is the responsibility of the government.

Let's see. Financial times, the economist, Oxford university etc. VS. emotional BS from a hateful loser and some photos from Google.. Lol.. My sources are clearly unbiased. You, on the other hand, clearly have an anti-Somali bias for whatever reason.


This is why people like you never prosper.. You're busy hating on others instead of building your own legacy.