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mbulela:
Terry G, 7 instruments?
Tosin you sure?

M.I drums and piano i hope no be all those hobbies section for CV you get that info from?

infact i no trust that your list, with all due respect.

Apparently Mbulela does no know that M.I. Produced most of the tracks in his last album MI2.

Ok. . . .Peeps can someone play this track and make judgments?
I don't want it to look like one is looking at this dude subjectively.

http://www.4shared.com/audio/4nF2LkrL/Vector_-_Mary_Jane.html

@eldee

Well . . . each man to his own. I am yet to see whats really popping from his end.

tosinaded@:
next time end your post with IMO . . . . In My Opinion!

stop  boring us with your analysis abeg.


so i must be poetic to be lyrical. . . . .

go and listen to mary Jane, I luv u nigeria . . . .  if u think he wasnt lyrical "according to your defination" then ure on your own. . .  what u call a defect in vector, is actually a quality that most rappers dont av! its like an addition to what u call poetic power!

So whats the addition? You didn't mention it. You just said he has an addition but failed to mention this golden addition.

People are mistaking lyrics for flows. Lyrical content is all about the wording and meaning. Flows is about how you make it sound. Vector tries to use a yankee accent to make his rap. Cool and good. Does not sound bad. But his content and rhyme is all over the place. Here and there.


I really think its rather more of stooping like a cheapskate looking for fame from other people's tracks instead of being able to make a hit track. Ice Prince proved himself on MI's track (Somebody wants to die) and also has Oleku to his credit.
If in a WHOLE CD, an acclaimed rapper is unable to get one or two tracks that shoot him straight to limelight (I don't mean tracks that can only be found on fan's 4shared folders) then there is more work to be done.
Vector has no popular track (popular by my definition is not a track known to his fans but to all and sundry). The Mary Jane which everyone is referring me to is not showing up when I search for 'Mary Jane Vector' on youtube!!!! How more direct can I be?
I laugh in Yoruba.
The guy is good in his way, but not anywhere near many rappers around hence the use of force to project himself (like making references to MI in Kilode and forcing his way into the online voting list for naijas best rapper - barely getting any votes ). Quality speaks for itself.

Cant find Mary Jane on youtube. It's probably not too popular (not sure)
I just listened to I luv you Nigeria. Nice track. But average by me.

SpiralEx:
When I say that Vector is lyrically weak, I only need people who understand what it means for a verse to have poetic power to speak up.
Let me explain a little. If you listen to Renegade by Jay-Z and Eminem (the two best rappers alive as voted by the rap world on vibe), you see what it means for a verse to carry a unified message that points in one direction. A Renegade is a defiant or more or less a rebel. All through the verse you could see how the two peeps used wordplay, rhythm and rhymes to convey strongly worded verses in a poetic but still hardcore-rap-ish (forgive my english) manner. Ever wondered why tupac is accalaimed to be the best rapper ever? Lyrical power that manifests in poetic verses that still convey the message in the manner a hard-core rapper would.
Take a look at these lines from a few guys

Eminem (on Renegade)
See I'm a poet to some, a regular modern day Shakespeare
Jesus Christ the King of these Latter Day Saints here
To shatter the picture in which of that as they paint me
as a monger of hate and Satan a scatter-brained atheist
But that ain't the case, see it's a matter of taste
We as a people decide if Shady's as bad as they say he is
. . . .

The message all through the verse is about a renegade who is hated and despised by the public even when he shouldn't. The strong poetic verses have 5 syllable rhymes (except for the 'matter of taste') which is just 4 verses.

Jay Z on (Renegade)
Motherfuckers -
say that I'm foolish I only talk about jewels (bling bling)
Do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it?
See I'm influenced by the ghetto you ruined
That same dude you gave nothin', I made somethin doin'
what I do through and through and
I give you the news - with a twist it's just his ghetto point-of-view
The renegade; you been afraid
I penetrate pop culture, bring 'em a lot closer to the block where they
pop toasters, and they live with they moms
Got dropped roasters, from botched robberies niggaz crotched over

MI. Area ft YQ

MI and YQ,
As the flows fly you,
realize i'm not on the same level of IQ,
You feeling me in AJ City and Festac,
Best act, you ever seen to bless tracks

The message of the song is that MI is showing how he has been able to penetrate the areas of Lagos and mainstream naija hip-hop to the grassroots (hence the name of the track 'Area') even with his seemingly sophisticated rap style. The verses portray the same message all through. Play the rest of the tracks and listen to the deeper meaning of the lines. You'll understand what I mean.

If you look carefully, you'll see that Vector has a very smooth speech pattern that makes his rap sound good. That does not make one a lyricist. Last time I checked, some lyricists are not musicians, they write and sell! Vector's musics is cool because of his pronunciations and the way he presents his flows, lyrically, its very weak. The same is the reason why it appears the message in one single track is all over the place - Not poetic one bit!



I put my life in,
The bread dont cut - I put the knife in
My left hand weak - I put the right in! - My fav line in Oleku! (Ice Prince version)
The message from Ice Price is consistent in the entire verse and that message is perseverance.

Vector jumps from talking of a party to talking of Oyedepo and CU. Send him to the school of lyrics. Every rapper needs that. Singers use few lines in songs because they stretch, rappers need to be LYRICALLY STRONG to be able to stand the game.

Okay Sirs and Mas

All analysis are IMO!

When I say that Vector is lyrically weak, I only need people who understand what it means for a verse to have poetic power to speak up.
Let me explain a little. If you listen to Renegade by Jay-Z and Eminem (the two best rappers alive as voted by the rap world on vibe), you see what it means for a verse to carry a unified message that points in one direction. A Renegade is a defiant or more or less a rebel. All through the verse you could see how the two peeps used wordplay, rhythm and rhymes to convey strongly worded verses in a poetic but still hardcore-rap-ish (forgive my english) manner. Ever wondered why tupac is accalaimed to be the best rapper ever? Lyrical power that manifests in poetic verses that still convey the message in the manner a hard-core rapper would.
Take a look at these lines from a few guys

Eminem (on Renegade)
See I'm a poet to some, a regular modern day Shakespeare
Jesus Christ the King of these Latter Day Saints here
To shatter the picture in which of that as they paint me
as a monger of hate and Satan a scatter-brained atheist
But that ain't the case, see it's a matter of taste
We as a people decide if Shady's as bad as they say he is
. . . .

The message all through the verse is about a renegade who is hated and despised by the public even when he shouldn't. The strong poetic verses have 5 syllable rhymes (except for the 'matter of taste') which is just 4 verses.

Jay Z on (Renegade)
Motherfuckers -
say that I'm foolish I only talk about jewels (bling bling)
Do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it?
See I'm influenced by the ghetto you ruined
That same dude you gave nothin', I made somethin doin'
what I do through and through and
I give you the news - with a twist it's just his ghetto point-of-view
The renegade; you been afraid
I penetrate pop culture, bring 'em a lot closer to the block where they
pop toasters, and they live with they moms
Got dropped roasters, from botched robberies niggaz crotched over

MI. Area ft YQ

MI and YQ,
As the flows fly you,
realize i'm not on the same level of IQ,
You feeling me in AJ City and Festac,
Best act, you ever seen to bless tracks

The message of the song is that MI is showing how he has been able to penetrate the areas of Lagos and mainstream naija hip-hop to the grassroots (hence the name of the track 'Area') even with his seemingly sophisticated rap style. The verses portray the same message all through. Play the rest of the tracks and listen to the deeper meaning of the lines. You'll understand what I mean.

If you look carefully, you'll see that Vector has a very smooth speech pattern that makes his rap sound good. That does not make one a lyricist. Last time I checked, some lyricists are not musicians, they write and sell! Vector's musics is cool because of his pronunciations and the way he presents his flows, lyrically, its very weak. The same is the reason why it appears the message in one single track is all over the place - Not poetic one bit!



I put my life in,
The bread dont cut - I put the knife in
My left hand weak - I put the right in! - My fav line in Oleku! (Ice Prince version)
The message from Ice Price is consistent in the entire verse and that message is perseverance.

Vector jumps from talking of a party to talking of Oyedepo and CU. Send him to the school of lyrics. Every rapper needs that. Singers use few lines in songs because they stretch, rappers need to be LYRICALLY STRONG to be able to stand the game.

But wait o. . . .
What is this rubbish??


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYWmpbd672I
Get Down - Vector ft TuFace
This track is supposed to be one of his hits!!!! Chei!

This guy has no lyrics or style. All he has is the flow in speech which is not enough for the rap game!!!!
He hardly even rhymes more than two lines in a verse and barely manages to make more than 2 syllables of rhyme. Eminem was rhyming 5 to 6 syllables in Renegade, MI rhymes almost full line rhymes. Vector barely makes sense without rhymes, how nasty and senseless then will the lyrics be if he tries to formulate them into rhymes and a reasonable pattern?

The fact that Ice kept it plain and simple does not make Vector who is lyrically weak any better. Vector hardly strikes three consistent multi-syllabic rhymes. Kilode (his supposedly ideal track) barely hardly has any rhyming pattern. It's easy to take someone's track and improve on it and try to sell on someone's fame. That automatically puts you below the person. Why couldn't Vector come up with an original track that can challenge Oleku?
Vector has a slippery tongue that enhances the way his words flow such that they sound appealing but lyrically, he is WEAK! Kilode barely has any rhyming structure and meaningful lyrics. Same goes for his version of Oleku.

I am not surprised that this is happening to the Yorubas.
The jos crises that every one is complaining of has a death toll of less than 600. The 1966 pogrom had a death toll of 30,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In the midst of this, the COWARDLY yorubas still licked the ass of their hausa overlords and decided to join hands in killing the Igbos in the Biafran war.
Up till date, the SE, SS and middle belt have called for secession directly or indirectly. THE SW HAS NEVER UTTERRED ANY STATEMENT THAT IS AGAINT THE ACTION OF THEIR HAUSA OVERLORDS.
COWARDSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It may be nice of the SE, SS secede and force the SW to remain with the north since they love them so much and cannot stand for what is wrong.

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How come out of the 20 Nominees in the Vanguard/Silverbird's Nigeria's Greatest Living Legends in which only 5 people will be selected; Five Nominees are from one state - Anambra?

These 5 people are Chukwuemeka Ojukwu, Chinua Achebe, Emeka Anyaoku, Philip Emeagwali and Professor Dora Akunyili.

Other nominees from other states include:
Kanu Nwankwo - Abia;
Olusegun Obasanjo and Wole Soyinka - Ogun;
Anthony Enahoro  and Cardinal Okogie - Edo;
Pat Utomi and David Dafinone - Delta;
Sunny Ade, Akintola Williams and  Enoch Adeboye - Osun;
Balarabe Musa - Kaduna;
Gani Fawehinmi - Ondo;
Aliko Dango - Kano;
Hakeem Olajuwon - Lagos
and General Gowon - Plateau.

If eventually, maybe 4 or 5 people from Anambra become Nigeria's Greatest living legends. Will it be that Anambra should be seen as Nigeria's greatest state? as the State also produced other legends likes of Zik, Professor Chike Obi, Cardinal Arinze et al??

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-252266.0.html

I can't wait for the east to secede from the North!
Those people are damn parasites. Look how unpolished this "senator" is. The west is just the problem. Fear fear yorubas that keep supporting hausas in the stupid "one Nigeria".

This area boy thing is so common in the west.
Thank God eastern youths are very industrious and would rather go into business than go into touting.

Let us not be blinded by the Imam's "sincereity".
FG is not the cause of the religious crises like he said.
Islam is!
Stop being deceived into admiring his "truthfulness". The subject matter is not tribalism, its religious crises and last time I checked, its the moslems that are behind it.

I posted a while ago that the world would have been a peaceful place if Mohammed was never born.
Some "diplomats" on this thread nearly burned me on the stake!
Now i cant see all those Muslims in nairaland commenting on this thread.
And I add again to the list of things that would not have happened if Mohammed was never born
If only Mohammed was never born. 11 Nigerians would not have been killed in the recent bauchi crisis

The world would have been a much more peaceful place if only Mohammed was not Born!
Take it or leave it . . . .is that statement false?



https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-229758.0.html

@ Asha 80 and Co
the Opobos speak two major languages . . IGBO and Ubani!
I know someone who is a direct descendant of King Jaja of Opobo and speaks IGBO better than i do. All the Opobo people i know speak igbo extra-fluently. Their Igbo is even more similar to core igbo than that of the Ikwerres.
Come to think of it . . .Jaja of Opoba was an Igbo slave who went to the Island of Opobo and founded a new nation because of the jealousy of the people (due to his success) in the land where he broke out of slavery.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaja_of_opobo

The Ikwerres are on the other hand igbos who decided willfully . . not out of migration or natural occurence over a long time . . .to disconnect themselves from igbos because of the stigma associated to igbos after the war.
After the war, every igbo account holder's deposits were reduced by a government order to a mere N20. As such ikwerres, quickly dissociated (in a cowardly manner) from the igbos not knowing that in a mere 30 year the igbos will rise to dominate the economy of the sam nation where they were left with N20.
Ask an Ikwerre man what RUMUIGBO, RUMUOLA, RUMUCHUKWU means, he cane tell you it makes meaning in "ikwerre" language. Those places were UMUIGBO, UMUOLA, UMUCHUKWU etc
Cowards who were trying to lick the asses of the nigerian side to gain favour . . . not knowing that the sam Nigerian side will turn around to kill their stateman Saro Wiwa!
I will rather Unite as an igbo with Ijaws, Opobos, Ibibios, Efik etc .than with an Ikwerre man! Simple!

My own simple question is this
Why is Islam the only religion that the Prophet of "God" commands them to kill
Other religions may have people who kill but I put it to you that their religious leaders go as far as denoucing such members because it is against their doctrine.

I saw this on the internet!!!:

[b]Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar, an Iranian-born American citizen awaiting trial for nine counts of attempted murder, cited a number of verses from the Qur'an in justifying his attempt to kill civilians, including:[92]

Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not. [Qur'an 2:216]

The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter; [Qur'an 5:33]

But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. [Qur'an 9:5]

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! [Qur'an 9:29-30]
[/b]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism

Can a moslem deny that Mohammed was not into Killing too
If my memory serves me right, he is the only prophet that converts by force and by invading cities, killing and enslaving and forcing his religion on others.
Is that Mutual respect?
How then do the Moslems want to have respect when even their own master had NO RESPECT for the basics rights of innocent people i.e the right to life and the right to freedom of religion
If you respect me, I respect you.
Non-Moslems are even giving moslems more respect than they f***ing deserve!!!
If Non-moslems decided to embark on "Holy War" too against moslems, they'll be wiped out in less than 24 Hours!!!