₦airaland Forum

Iykebestbt:
Dear God, did we bargain for this? Or somebody bargained it on our behalf? Why this incessant bombing? How long shall we continue to live in fear in our own land? There are a lot of gunning,bombing,running,blooding ånd deading etc up there in the North. Pls heal our land ånd return our peace ånd unity to us. we ve missed it so dearly. Thanks for your usual cooperation. God bless NIGERiA!!!

Guy forget all dis God tinz....God did not elect GEJ nigerians did. I am a practising catholic. God will not do for man what man will do for himself. 2015 is by the corner if you not satisfied with the state of the nation do the needful during the elections. You can't vote in a clueless man and expect God to do what man must do for himself. Lest I forget, America did not nullify the threat of Osama or Amwalaki by praying but by electing a competent president who is not afraid to make tough choices or easily intimidated. I rest my case

Ukutsgp:
many people dnt simply know the reason why
they do what they do. They just follow the
multitude whenever they are going. Imagine some
pastors calling those who christ have bought with
his blood robbers because they dnt pay tithe, did
they think God is after money as their soul? God
prefer obedience even more than sacrifice. We dnt
have to offer the sacrifice of fools. The only
people christ called robbers are those who are
buying and selling in the house of God. Turning
the house of God into a business centre. Many
pastors have turned the house of God into money
making ventures. The soul of men is no longer
their top priority again. All they are after is
money. Extorting money from the poor who
should be help by the church. We must retrace
our step back to where we have missed it and
follow the right path.
God is nt the respecter of persons. God doesn't
look at how famous u are. He will cast u out if
you think you are indispensable. On that day
many famous pastors in Nigeria and abroad will
say lord we did miracles and build mansions for
you but God will say to them that he knew them
not because they think they can bribe God with
their fame and wealth they amass for themselves
by milking the poor. Many of them keep laying up
their treasure here on earth, buying jets, building
schools for business, building hotels, mansions for
themselves and their families, building business
empires and more. God is not interested in all
that as the souls of men. Money is preached
more on sundays in many churches than
salvation. Those who dnt have to contribute are
dispised and relegated to the background. Giving
the rich top positions in the church and neglecting
the poor. Allow politicians to mount the alter as
they like. One thing i would say is that God is
watching.

You couldn't have said it any better. Hopefully, someone will start using his brains. I think part of the problem is that people worship their pastors instead of God....many believe their pastors are unquestionable. Until people start questioning these pastors, things will never change. Their followers need to use their brains and not swallow everything their pastor tells them. Maybe, its time these pastors start sowing seeds so they too can partake in this supposedly merry go round.

WinsomeX:
My dear, it does promote the kingdom. It ensures that people do not "patronize" a false gospel and end up in a wrong kingdom.

The annoying thing is that both educated and rich people fall for this 21st century scam. Its even more heartbreaking for the poor who are constantly been ripped off and will never enjoy the rewards of their tithes by affording the universities or fly the planes bought for "pastoral activities" or arms smuggling which their tithes helped build or buy respectively.

onila:
I read u can get it from slight breeze

my landlord didnt put on the heater for a while
I guess I got it from cold

go see a doctor and stop making self diagnosis, self medication and misinforming the public

onila:
I cant eat properly
I tried eating apple just now, I almost died

what happened ard there



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there is no such tin as a facial nerve area......facial nerve is a nerve as the name suggests and the picture u put up shows the skull bones.

Ladgl:
Τ̲̅ђe​ recruitment is still on, successful candidate @τ̲̅ђe​ interview wil resume January.

Its funny you seem to know date of resumption but not date of interview bearing in mind we are just two months from your supposedly "date of resumption". Indeed, talk is cheap. Stop misleading people.

BodyKiss:
You're seriously overrating their followers. Those gullible fellows will take anything thrown at them by their gods of men. These people barely make use of their brains.

True talk, you said it the way it is. Its high time their gullible followers started using their brains. Once you give someone the right to think for you, you are always going to be scammed. The gullible followers have a higher portion of the blame.

BodyKiss:
You're seriously overrating their followers. Those gullible fellows will take anything thrown at them by their gods of men. These people barely make use of their brains.

you said it the way it is.

Its done and dusted, people should accept the
obvious and move on......its no good to hope
against hope

Ukutsgp:
They will never tell their followers the truth even if they know.

but, come to think of it, why will they tell their followers the truth.....living opulent lifestyle is addictive.....someone has to keep paying for their luxurious lifestyles, picking their bills, fueling their jets, health bills, accommodation in 5 star hotels, building their expensive schools .....u don't have to blame these pastors, more of the responsibility lies with their gullible followers to be able to discern truth from falsehood rather than allowing these pastors to think for them. You will think that in a capitalist economy like ours, people should know that to be extremely rich u have to be a smart and hard working biz man or a corrupt politician like in the case of Nigeria and not a pastor selling false hopes and getting rich off them especially at the expense of the poor.....but you will be wrong

Its done and dusted, people should accept the obvious and move on......its no good to hope against hope

dennykel60:
Your opinion is needed on how we can end unemployment in the country and stop blaiming the government for jobs and what an individual can do to own a business.

Guy, it still comes back to government......a government with investor friendly policies will attract investors which in turn means big, medium and small businesses which will translate to jobs. In our environment, I will suggest voting out clueless GEJ, demanding for a democratic party primaries so we don't end up with GEJ and Buhari at the general elections. Nigerians must also stop voting along religious and ethnic lines.....we have to accept each other and realize there is strength in diversity..........just my take on the matter.

Sorry guys, the recruitment is over. My colleague collected his appointment letter and did his documentation in Enugu last week.

donstevico: aiint gat tym to form a law court because of an irrelevant person

but you have got time to call for his ban......

In a public forum, everybody cannot agree with you and if you think he made a false statement against your pastor, prove him wrong rather than crying to the mods asking for his ban.....he is well within his legal limits.
If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

rattlesnake: 1. KEFEE Died
2. Oyakhilome Divorce
3. COZA pastor accused
4. TB Joshua hostel collapsed
5. Oritejafor "JET" impounded for alleged money laundering.
6. NL Atheists laughing at us all.
7. Chris Okotie
...Brothers and Sisters
pray ! pray!! pray!!!

Pray to God through Jesus Christ please dont pray through mary or any saint or any disciple PRAY DIRECTLY TO GOD THROUGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD...Amen

Please, get ur acts together and come out of ur delusion. TB Joshua is a fortunate dude, he ought to be cooling his heels in prison and made legally responsible for the 80 people dat died in his building collapse. Ayo the supposedly CAN president who has ridiculed himself by straying into politics he does not deserve any sympathy for the insults he is receiving. As for Chris oyakhilome, he is a sad story, the less said about him the better.....these are all pentecostal pastors and they epitomize what pentecostalism is all about.
@ OP, Pray for urself.......dats what u shld be doing

ify84: Christians embarrassed me most times....
u can't see a Muslim talking negative about d sultan like dat over unverified money laundry....
a Muslim fundamentalist promoted a lie and Christians continue from where he stop.... just to embarass d pastor for loyalty to GEJ...
Christians.... we have too many nominal Christians around...
today they will insult islam, tomorrow they will insult themselves..... SHAME shame

This is not about religion bro.....Rise above hate.
unverified money laundry u say, despite the glaring evidence. Christianity is about standing for the truth.
Nigeria will never be great if we continue to think, act and vote based on ethnic and religious lines. we can pray all we want in the church and mosque but things will remain same. There should be strength in diversity as US have shown.
FFK has lost relevance and its high time he realised it

mstik: We are made righteous with Christ, through his death.
Sin can't get a believer into hell

seriously??
i suppose raping, murder, rituals, adultery, fornication cannot land a believer in hell. Trust me on this,I love ur version of Christianity

Ukutsgp: there are many things to correct in rcc. unless u are blind to see them. i hv already listed some of them earlier. if u dnt mind u can look at it. admit that u people are out of the will of God. when u do, then we would look at d issue of pastor chris. there are people also addressing that all over the forum. why shouldn't urs be addressed also? we must correct all those nonsense taking place in Christendom.

people addressing pastor chris issue? seriously? Then someone is doing a bad job "addressing" his issues cuz the last time i checked, the dude was on the loose looking for who to devour....endorsing self servicing, castigating his wife for his divorce and still scamming the sick, poor, desperate and gullible.That dude is incorrigible. The other megapastors are not any better. But, why don't u go put ur pentecostal house in order so that the catholics u are eager to save will have some where to move into should they decide to leave the church or u want them to turn to paganism or islam?. U can't be running a religion down when urs don't measure up.
leave catholics alone.

Ukutsgp: could u imagine this height of blasphemy. at least no penticostal pastors will ever say this. it is a shame. catholic is a disgrace to Christendom .

You are a defender of pentecostalism evidenced by the quoted message, just wondering why you are distancing yourself from pastor chris and the other mega pastors....I told you before, please, leave catholics alone and face ur own problems. I am not sure if catholics are a shame to christendom but when leading pentecostal pastors endorse self servicing, rip off its members, stage miracles and make attention seeking prophecies surely they don't qualify to be called Christians......unfortunately, thats what pentecostals are about.
You have a huge task on ur hands if u want to change the world but i suggest you start from pentecostals so that you can see clearly while correcting the catholics, that is if there is anything to be corrected.

@op, its really appalling u are coming up with this at a time the popularity of the pentecostal church is at all time low especially with the show of shame by pastor chris.......one would have thought you will be busy with damage limitation rather than crying wolf from rooftop

The catholic church will continue to grow because people are becoming aware of the tithing and special offering scam in pentecostal churches. Pastors are faking miracles, getting richer at the expense of their clients.....selling false hopes to the sick, poor, desperate and gullible while exploiting them at the same time. The rich are not sparred, they are ripped off. People are able to see through the smokescreen.

Ukutsgp: how is that ur business. are pastors not entitled to live a good life? so they should die wretched because they are pastors abi? what's wrong if they build schools and universities? is rcc nt building schools too?
pls tell me if there are no poor people in ur church? pls people are even willingly donating to assist the work of God and u ar here blabbing. like i said we dnt endorse self service in my church and we dnt exploit people. if u have u give and if u dnt hv u stay. nobody will be forced to give. but how does this stop d catholic from being a false church?

you don't get it, do you? so, pastors have to live a comfortable life then they go all out to swindle people?If they have a regular job or business and make a living from it, that will be great and no one will have an issue with it but defrauding people and coercing them to give tithes and offerings is not legit.
You know, this ur post is ill-timed, illogical and a total waste of time. I would have thought you will be in prayers for Pastor chris and maybe also advise him on some of his controversial doctrines.....thats what a good pentecostal brother should do rather than channelling your energy on lost cause. I had earlier advised u to put ur house in order so that people can take u seriously when you talk.

Ukutsgp: i worship God were d truth was preached. stop discouraging people from giving toward d work of God. we dnt endorse self-service in my church and we dnt exploit people. we are nt like ur idolatrous church. rcc cannot save anybody.

I don't think u read my post.....I said pentecostalism I am not interested in ur church but i am confident if we put it under the microscope we will see it is not what you claim it is.
@giving to God....do u mean where pastors are getting richer buying jets and in some cases owning 4 jets why some people in that same church can't even have 1 meal in a day? Offerings are used to build universities, unfortunately, same members who made the offerings can't afford the university the help built and don't get any proceeds from profits made running the university. You would have thought equality will be in the pentecostal church but you will be wrong.
what is this thing with pastor Chris and self servicing? Is he not a pentecostal?
OP, please, face ur pentecostal, many things there require ur attention. Put your house in order first so that people will take you seriously when you talk.

@ OP, why not start reforming ur pentecostalism, I would have thought charity should start from home....u people endorse masturbation and pastor worshipping, pastors sell false hope to the poor, sick and desperate while at the same time exploiting them of their meagre resources, the rich are not spared, they too are ripped off.

please, u have enough problems in ur church to occupy you with.....that is if u truly care about the salvation of others. leave catholics alone

Ukutsgp: true christians are those that does what d bible teaches. not what man's wisdom teaches. there are churches were d truth is spoken. by d way cant we sow toward d work of God? or are u against giving?

apparently, we don't agree on the definition of giving....coercing people to give their 10percent, donating to the pastors while the pastors hold annual awards to recognise the highest donors.....does not define giving for me.....it should be out of freewill and such is rewarded by God and not by a pastor at an awards night.....oooh, these pastors build mansions, buy jets, build universities that members cannot afford. suffice it to say such universities was built from tithes and donations of those poor members.
I asked u earlier to work out ur salvation and leave catholics alone and u refused......it seems u hv to leave dat fraud and join catholics

OP, where are thou?? we are waiting for your answer to the questions.

Ukutsgp: if d rcc is a true church, no one will be opening thread against them like that. but because they are fake people have no option but to do dat. because they need to be preached to.

so, if I understand you correctly, the true Christianity is pentecostal whose doctrines include self servicing as endorsed by one of your leading pastors, sowing seeds and all sorts of miracles will be happening, pastors whose only job is preaching the gospel once a week buying jets, building universities while the poor members wallow in poverty and can't even afford schools built by their beloved church......bro, you really need to show me a bigger scam

@ OP, please, leave us alone.....channel your energy towards working out your salvation.....BTW, why are under the delusion you are in the right?

If the recent statements of the
minister of health, Professor
Onyebuchi Chukwu, are anything
to go by, then, residency
training for doctors may be on the chopping
block. This should not be a surprise after the
ban/unban move by the federal government
following the strike embarked upon by members
of the Nigerian Medical Association (NMA), a
majority of whom are resident doctors. Apparently
referring to the recent strike, the health minister,
at an event in Abuja, accused members of his
constituency of losing empathy and concern for
human life. The minister, at the event designed to
appraise the residency training programme in
government-owned hospitals, lamented that the
programme had derailed from its initial lofty
ideals.
In an apparently unintended counter-punch,
however, a director in the ministry, Dr Patience
Osinubi, exonerated the doctors from the
minister’s accusations. She pointed out that the
residency programme was beset by numerous
challenges like inadequate funding by federal
hospitals, lack of commitment on the part of
trainers and residents, intermittent loss of
accreditation by training institutions and total
lack of adequate training institutions.
The director hit the nail on the head. The minister,
a professor of medicine, was until his
appointment a trainer of resident doctors. To that
extent, he is well aware of the challenges the
director pointed out. Even from his high horse, he
cannot claim not to know that training
institutions and facilities for resident doctors are,
to put it modestly, almost non-existent. It is no
news, even to lay people, that our hospitals,
especially the federal government ones, are “mere
consulting clinics”. That much was exposed when
terrorists bombed the United Nations building in
Abuja; the neighbour next door, the National
Hospital, could not provide even first-aid services.
And that hospital is one of the best the nation
has to offer at least in the Federal Capital
Territory as a doctors’ training institution.
Whose duty is it to equip the hospitals and make
them functional? Certainly not the resident
doctors who have to put up with the indignity of
referring their patients to outside facilities for
services like laboratory, x-ray and even for
prescribed drugs, fully aware of the risks involved
but are nonetheless helpless. Some, out of
frustration, leave the country in search of
opportunities.
We are not by any means trying to condone the
excesses or, for that matter, the shortcomings of
the resident doctors who are, indeed, the frontline
soldiers in most government hospitals. But the
minister should be honest enough to accept that
the nation’s healthcare facilities are less than
desirable as evidenced by the humiliating
syndrome of medical tourism Nigeria is plagued
by. Professor Chukwu ought to know that the
entire healthcare system is in dire need of
overhaul. Scapegoating the resident doctors is
escapist and unacceptable.

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totogrill: that means everybody will go to hell.

Dude, are u out of your mind?? most likely, u see him as a mini god and thats why you are embarrassed by his despicable behaviour. u might want to know that many don't believe in him and his prosperity gospel, u can add adultery to that list as well.
Hopefully, his members have now realized Chris is human afterall and they can now focus on worshipping Baba God .

adeoladrg: You're talking about salary, that's not the reason you went on strike. 24 commandments are in the waste-bin, that's whatsup.

i beg to differ....just yesterday SFG withdrew d circular
approving d appointment of non Dr as a
consultant in a hosp as ordered by National
industrial court,the post of DCMAC restored,the
CMD/MD headship of hosp restored,Ministerial
appointment to non Dr's referred 2 yahamed
committee,the wrong terminology for HO's salary
scale Conhess 9 step 4 reversed to conmess 1
equivalent,Hazard allowance now 30% of basic
salary for Ho's and residents and 20% for
consultant,registrars on Conmess 2 now
skipped 2 conmess 3,relativity areas of jan,feb and
Aug paid rest of d months 2 be paid next year
when captured in 2015 budget.july and Aug salary
has been paid fully even wit the strike!