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Politics / Re: Can Nigeria Afford an Igbo President? by ssosisi: 4:35am On Jul 19, 2009 |
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Islam for Muslims / Re: Sir Olabowale Lets Discuss Aisha's Age by ssosisi: 4:24am On Jul 19, 2009 |
Abuzola: It's amazing how people like Jarus,OYB,Mukina and babs are carefully dodging this thread and leaving olabowole make e dey lie dey go even littleb agrees aisha was a child of 6. Abuzola in my opinion is the smartest of you bunch as far as this topic is concerned. He's asking the exact same questions I would be asking. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Sir Olabowale Lets Discuss Aisha's Age by ssosisi: 4:21am On Jul 19, 2009 |
littleb: who is conspiring against you again did the enemies of Islam write the hadiths? |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Sir Olabowale Lets Discuss Aisha's Age by ssosisi: 4:16am On Jul 19, 2009 |
littleb:` There is no evidence that Arab societies gave out their 6 and one year olds to marriage prior to Mohammed. That culture was his invention. It's not a conspiracy |
Food / Re: What Can I Use To Replace Palm Oil In Soups? by ssosisi: 5:02am On Jul 18, 2009 |
If you live here in the USA,the Ola Ola palm oil sold at African food stores has no cholesterol(but doesn't taste the same ) It's not too bad though. alternatively some extra virgin olive oil and some tomato for the red color. |
Food / Re: Beware!, Snakes At Walmart by ssosisi: 4:57am On Jul 18, 2009 |
According to the Associated Press, 38 year old New York City resident, Nadege Brunacci, was washing her hands when she glanced over her shoulder and out of the corner of her eye saw the head of a large snake in her toilet; most of the snake’s body was still in the pipe. Naturally she let out a scream. She called her landlord who called the fire department. But eventually plumbers were called in to remove the creature from the downstairs neighbor’s pipes. And this snake was no joke. It was a 7 foot python. Brunacci ended up giving the snake to a friend as a pet, but since the incident, she says that she’s been using her daughter’s training toilet. Investigators are still trying to figure out how the python made it way into the toilet. |
Food / Re: Beware!, Snakes At Walmart by ssosisi: 4:38am On Jul 18, 2009 |
first this. TAIPEI (Reuters) - A Taiwanese man became a sitting target for a snake, which bit his penis as sat on the toilet at his rural home, local media reported on Monday. "As soon as he sat down, he suddenly felt a knife-like pain and reacted instinctively by standing up," the China Times said. "When he looked down, he saw the big snake." The 51-year-old man, from Nantou County, was under medical care with minor injuries, a director at Puli Christian Hospital said. "As soon as he has passed the risk of infection, he can go," the director, who declined to be named, said. "A snake's mouth isn't always clean." Local television images showed the black and yellow reptile, reportedly a species of rat snake, being uncoiled and plucked slowly from the toilet bowl. Snakes regularly enter rural homes in Taiwan and other sub-tropical regions of Asia. (Reporting by Ralph Jennings; Editing by Nick Macfie and Miral Fahmy) |
Food / Re: Beware!, Snakes At Walmart by ssosisi: 4:36am On Jul 18, 2009 |
Now about about a woman that goes to poo poo in her New york apartment and a python was in the toilet bowl? let me find the story |
Food / Re: Beware!, Snakes At Walmart by ssosisi: 4:21am On Jul 18, 2009 |
FL Gators: Do you think they're paralyzed and can't crawl around. . For those who buy clothing there abeg check well well before a snake hides in the crotch of the jeans and bites you in the forbidden area |
Food / Re: Beware!, Snakes At Walmart by ssosisi: 4:18am On Jul 18, 2009 |
For those outside of the USA,Walmart is a giant supermarket that sells virtually everything from groceries to electronics to clothing to live plants,car tires,pharmacy,name it,they have it. They also usually have an eyeclinic,photoshop,western union and even McDonalds. You can have your oil and tires changed while you shop. They have the cheapest prices for most things. A one stop shop and they are one of the largest employers in the USA. |
Food / Re: Beware!, Snakes At Walmart by ssosisi: 4:12am On Jul 18, 2009 |
savanaha: I was horrified about the news this evening only to do a google search and read that there's been many other cases,incidentally they've all been in Florida.This is scary. |
Food / Re: Beware!, Snakes At Walmart by ssosisi: 4:10am On Jul 18, 2009 |
Text SizeAAASnake Bites Woman Walking Through Wal-Mart Garden Center Posted: 12:33 pm EDT June 1, 2006 Updated: 9:53 am EDT[b] June 5, 2006[/b] Delaine Jarrell was looking through the plants in the garden center at a Jacksonville Wal-Mart on Wednesday, when a snake sunk its fangs into her arm and didn't let go without a fight. "He finally broke loose and, thank goodness for sweat pants with elastic on them, because he tried to climb up my britches' leg," Jarrell said. Jarrell went to the emergency room two days later when she noticed red streaks running down her arm. Fortunately, the snake wasn't poisonous. |
Food / Re: Beware!, Snakes At Walmart by ssosisi: 4:03am On Jul 18, 2009 |
Florida Man Sues Wal-Mart Over In-Store Snake Attack Sunday, February 15, 2009 Print ShareThisFORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. — A 42-year-old man bitten by a snake in a Pembroke Pines Wal-Mart garden center is suing the company for negligence. Jay Richitelli says he is the third Floridian in three years to be attacked in a Wal-Mart by a pygmy rattler. Two others were bitten in 2006 at the retailer's stores in Central Florida. Richitelli's attorney says the Bentonville, Arkansas company should have taken steps to prevent the attacks after they happened before. Wal-Mart wouldn't comment on the litigation filed in Broward County Circuit Court, but said customer safety is its top priority. Richitelli says he still has respiratory problems and scars from the 2008 bite. But he's been back to Wal-Mart several times, saying their prices are too good to shop elsewhere |
Food / Re: Beware!, Snakes At Walmart by ssosisi: 4:01am On Jul 18, 2009 |
Victim Making Demands Of Wal-Mart After Snake Bite Posted: 11:57 am EST February 22, 2007 Updated: 5:00 pm EST February 22, 2007 VIERA, Fla. -- A Brevard County man is taking on Wal-Mart, after he was attacked by a poisonous snake inside one of its stores. He is warning shoppers about a problem, which has sent more people to hospitals than you might ever think. John Page ended up in the emergency room at Wuestoff Hospital after he was attacked by a[b] pygmy rattlesnake [/b] last November. He talked publicly for the first time, Friday, about what happened. "I pulled my hand out of the shopping cart and, to my surprise, there is a 14-to-18 inch snake hanging off of my finger," he said. Page said he never expected to get bit by a rattlesnake inside a Wal-Mart garden center, but there he was with a 12-year-old rattler pumping venom into his hand. "I could feel the poison in there. I could feel it burning in there," he said. An employee was able to catch the 12-year-old serpent, put it in a cup and give it to paramedics. Page took pictures of the reptile with his camera phone from his bed at the hospital. "My right finger is completely locked. It won't open, whatsoever," he said. Page said his hand is still getting worse and what upsets him just as much was discovering how many times rattlesnakes have attacked customers in Wal-Marts before. H[/b]is lawyer has documented cases dating back 20 years, including at least seven other attacks and even more cases where rattlers were found before anyone was bitten. In many of the cases, Wal-Mart spokespeople have characterized the bites as freak accidents. "The reason we are here today is because we feel like this is something of a little-known public health issue that needs to be told," said Page's attorney, Scott Baughan. Page and his attorney have asked the store to pay for the medical expenses, to take proactive measures to prevent snakes from getting into their garden centers and to warn shoppers. "[b]Before you stick your hands in there, think about it. There could something lurking in there to bite you," Page said. |
Food / Beware!, Snakes At Walmart by ssosisi: 3:57am On Jul 18, 2009 |
Snake bite at Walmart hospitalizes man Man in critical condition and could lose finger Updated: Friday, 17 Jul 2009, 1:01 PM EDT Published : Friday, 17 Jul 2009, 12:59 PM EDT ST. AUGUSTINE, Fla. (NBC) - A man bitten by a snake insde a St. Augustine, Fla. Walmart may end up losing a finger. Jeriel Joiner went shopping at the store while carrying his baby boy Tuesday afternoon. When a baby bottle fell to the floor and rolled under some plants in the Garden Center, Joiner reached down to grab it. That's when a pygmy rattlesnake latched onto his finger. He was taken to Shands Jacksonville Medical Center , where he is listed in critical condition. Doctors said they may have to amputate his finger to save his life, Florida wildlife officials said pygmy rattlesnakes are the most abundant venomous snakes in Florida and are one of the species most commonly found in the garden sections of stores like Walmart. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Sir Olabowale Lets Discuss Aisha's Age by ssosisi: 3:21am On Jul 18, 2009 |
If you deny the sahih Bukhari hadiths,everything about Islam is then questionable. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Sir Olabowale Lets Discuss Aisha's Age by ssosisi: 1:26am On Jul 18, 2009 |
olabowale: all of that are answered in my link. |
Religion / Re: The Story Of Moses: Bible And Quran' Be The Judge by ssosisi: 12:57am On Jul 18, 2009 |
Abuzola: are you asking me? waraqua was just one of the writers waraqua's job was done with his death regarding his own role. who knows who else took his place? There was an apostate who helped him write some too,I gave an earlier hadith on that. volume Vol4, Book 56, Number 814: Narrated Anas: There was a Christian who embraced Islam and read Surat-al-Baqara and Al-Imran, and[b] he used to write (the revelations) for the Prophet. Later on he returned to Christianity again and he used to say: "Muhammad knows nothing but what I have written for him." [/b] |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Sir Olabowale Lets Discuss Aisha's Age by ssosisi: 12:52am On Jul 18, 2009 |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Sir Olabowale Lets Discuss Aisha's Age by ssosisi: 12:50am On Jul 18, 2009 |
Controversies about the age of Aisha By Ali Sina The majority of Muslims agree that Aisha was only 9 years old when Muhamamad married her. Most Islamic sites make no apology for her young age and accuse the modernists for humbugging the Westerner's morality and denying the truth. The site Islamonline.com explains: "It should be noted that in the hot regions, it�s normal for a girl to attain maturity at a very early age" and argues that the marriages of Muhammad were to foster political alliance. This is nonsense. Muhammad married Safiya after murdering her father, torturing to death her husband and massacring her entire tribe. He married Juwariyah after raiding her people, massacring the men and robbing their wealth and taking the women and children as slaves. He took Rayhana, the 15 year old Jewish girl of Bani Quraiza after massacring all them men and boys who had reached puberty of her tribe and took all the women and children as slaves. With whom he wanted to make alliance? With dead people? What a shameful excuse to defend a war criminal. What Muhammad did was disgusting but it is just as disgusting when Muslim apologists try to acquit him of his crimes with such a shameless excuses. As for as Aisha, she was the daughter of Abu Bakr who was already the primary supporter of him. Why he had to rape his little girl? This man was cult leader and hand brainwashed Abu Bakr. That fool would have done anything Muhammad told him to do. When you submit to a cult leader, you submit your intelligence and your conscience. However there are some �modernist� Muslims who dispute this fact. It is a good thing that they realize what Muhammad did was evil, but it is conning and hypocritical to lie, hide the facts and twists the truth. They argue: (tSource: http://www.understanding-islam.com/ri/mi-004.htm) According to the generally accepted tradition, Aisha (ra) was born about eight years before Hijrah. But according to another narrative in Bukhari (kitabu'l-tafseer) Aisha (ra) is reported to have said that at the time Surah Al-Qamar, the 54th chapter of the Qur'an, was revealed, "I was a young girl". The 54th surah of the Qur'an was revealed nine years before Hijrah. According to this tradition, Aisha (ra) had not only been born before the revelation of the referred surah, but was actually a young girl (jariyah), not an infant (sibyah) at that time. Obviously, if this narrative is held to be true, it is in clear contradiction with the narratives reported by Hisham ibn `urwah. I see absolutely no reason that after the comments of the experts on the narratives of Hisham ibn `urwah, why we should not accept this narrative to be more accurate. Answer: Even if we assume this narrative to be accurate, we have no reason to give it more weight than those that are so detailed about Aisha �s age, describing her, playing with her dolls and with her little friends who hid when Muhammad entered the room, her memories of playing on the swing when her mother called her and washed her face and took her to Muhammad, her ignorance of what was going on when Muhammad took off his pants and her �surprise� when got into action. These events are more likely to be remembered by child than when a particular Surah was revealed. It is more likely that a person confuse one Surah with the other than confuse all those details of her own life. This site continues: According to a number of narratives, Aisha (ra) accompanied the Muslims in the battle of Badr and Uhud. Furthermore, it is also reported in books of hadith and history that no one under the age of 15 years was allowed to take part in the battle of Uhud. All the boys below 15 years of age were sent back. Aisha 's (ra) participation in the battle of Badr and Uhud clearly indicate that she was not nine or ten years old at that time. After all, women used to accompany men to the battle fields to help them, not to be a burden on them. Answer: This is a weak excuse. When the Battle of Badr and Ohud occurred Aisha was 10 to 11 years old. She did not go to be a warier, like the boys. She went to keep Muhammad warm during the nights. Boys who were less than 15 were sent back, but this did not apply to her. According to almost all the historians Asma (ra), the elder sister of Aisha (ra) was ten years older than Aisha (ra). It is reported in Taqri'bu'l-tehzi'b as well as Al-bidayah wa'l-nihayah that Asma (ra) died in 73 hijrah when she was 100 years old. Now, obviously if Asma (ra) was 100 years old in 73 hijrah she should have been 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah. If Asma (ra) was 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah, Aisha (ra) should have been 17 or 18 years old at that time. Thus, Aisha (ra), if she got married in 1 AH (after hijrah) or 2 AH, was between 18 to 20 years old at the time of her marriage. [b]Answe[/b]r: When someone gets that old, people don�t care too much about her exact age. It is very easy to say she was 100 years old when in fact she was only 90. The difference is not noticeable to the younger folks and 100 is a round figure. Assuming the Hadith is authentic, it could be an honest mistake. Since in those days people did not carry birth certificates, it is very much likely that the person who reported her age to be 100 did not know that she was 10 years older than Aisha and did not sit to make the calculations and deductions. She was not an important person and it did not occur to anyone that 1300 years later it would become the subject of a controversy. Tabari in his treatise on Islamic history, while mentioning Abu Bakr (ra) reports that Abu Bakr had four children and all four were born during the Jahiliyyah -- the pre Islamic period. Obviously, if Aisha (ra) was born in the period of jahiliyyah, she could not have been less than 14 years in 1 AH -- the time she most likely got married. Answer: Tabari�s narratives do not have the distinction to be known Sahih. Even if we assume that this narrative is not an honest mistake, there is no reason to discard all those strong, detailed and explicit hadiths that concord with each other and confirm the age of Aisha was 9 when Muhammad took her to bed. The narrative reported above could very well be an innocent slip on the part of the narrator. People remember important events better than those that are relatively insignificant. The date of the birth of the children of Abu Bakr was not an important subject for Muslims to record. But the details of Muhammad's life and his marriages were important. As you can read in the story of Safiyah's wedding even the kind of food served is recorded. According to Ibn Hisham, the historian, Aisha (ra) accepted Islam quite some time before Umar ibn Khattab (ra). This shows that Aisha (ra) accepted Islam during the first year of Islam. While, if the narrative of Aisha 's (ra) marriage at seven years of age is held to be true, Aisha (ra) should not have been born during the first year of Islam. Answer: The apologist fails to provide the references to the hadithes that he quotes. In any case this is an error. To understand and accept a religion, one must be at least intelligent enough to make such decision. That is about 15 years old. But let us be generous and say that age is about 12. If Aisha accepted Islam during the first year of Islam, she must have been 26 years old when Muhammad married her. (12 + 14) Are we then supposed to believe that Aisha at the age of 26 used to play with her dolls and on the swing? Tabari has also reported that at the time Abu Bakr planned on migrating to Habshah (8 years before Hijrah), he went to Mut`am -- with whose son Aisha (ra) was engaged -- and asked him to take Aisha (ra) in his house as his son's wife. Mut`am refused, because Abu Bakr had embraced Islam, and subsequently his son divorced Aisha (ra). Now, if Aisha (ra) was only seven years old at the time of her marriage, she could not have been born at the time Abu Bakr decided on migrating to Habshah. On the basis of this report it seems only reasonable to assume that Aisha (ra) had not only been born 8 years before hijrah, but was also a young lady, quite prepared for marriage. Answer: It was an Arab tradition to betroth a girl to a boy even when the girl was a newborn. This tradition is still carried on in many Islamic countries. This is no proof that Aisha was a grown up. According to a narrative reported by Ahmad ibn Hanbal, after the death of Khadijah (ra), when Khaulah (ra) came to the Prophet (pbuh) advising him to marry again, the Prophet (pbuh) asked her regarding the choices she had in her mind. Khaulah said: "You can marry a virgin (bikr) or a woman who has already been married (thayyib)". When the Prophet (pbuh) asked about who the virgin was, Khaulah proposed Aisha 's (ra) name. All those who know the Arabic language, are aware that the word "bikr" in the Arabic language is not used for an immature nine year old girl. The correct word for a young playful girl, as stated earlier is "Jariyah". "Bikr" on the other hand, is used for an unmarried lady, and obviously a nine year old is not a "lady". Answer: This explanation is absolutely incorrect. Bikr means virgin and, just as in English is not age specific. In fact Aisha was the second wife of Muhammad (after Khadijah) but Muhammad did not consummate his marriage with her for three years because she was too young and Abu Bakr begged him to wait. So he married Sauda bint Zamah, whom he mistreated because she was not pretty. According to Ibn Hajar, Fatimah (ra) was five years older than Aisha (ra). Fatimah (ra) is reported to have been born when the Prophet (pbuh) was 35 years old. Thus, even if this information is taken to be correct, Aisha (ra) could by no means be less than 14 years old at the time of hijrah, and 15 or 16 years old at the time of her marriage. Answer: Of course this information cannot be taken as correct. If Aisha was five years older than Fatimah, and Fatimah was born when the Prophet was 35 years old, then Aisha was only 30 years younger than the Prophet. So at the time of her marriage when the Prophet was 54, Aisha must have been 24 yeas old. This is not certainly correct, for the reasons explained above and also it contradicts the Hadiths that the apologist quoted about the age of Asma, Aisha �s sister, who according to that Hadith was 10 years older that Aisha and died in 73 Hijra. In that case at the time of Hijra Asma must have been 100 �73 = 27 years old, but according to this Hadith she was 34 years old. The discrepancy between these two hadiths quoted by the same apologist, demonstrate their inaccuracy. It all goes to show that in those days numbers did not mean much. It is more likely that people were wrong on dates, but events are better remembered. The reports of the tender age of Aisha is consistent with the stories of her childhood, playing with her toys, her girlfriends hiding when Muhammad entered the room, the Prophet playing with her, her ignorance about sex and her �surprise� when Muhammad came to her. All these hadiths confirm that she was a little girl. Those who deny the facts and try to prove otherwise, demonstrate their embarrassment of the acts of their Prophet. Perhaps they should be credited for having some scruples and for realizing that what he did was despicable, but we cannot praise them for their intellectual honesty for they have none. The author argues:: It is the responsibility of all those who believe that marrying a girl as young as nine years old was an accepted norm of the Arab culture, to provide at least a few examples to substantiate their point of view. I have not yet been able to find a single dependable instance in the books of Arab history where a girl as young as nine years old was given away in marriage. Unless such examples are given, we do not have any reasonable grounds to believe that it really was an accepted norm. I could not have said it better. Not only marring children was not part of the culture of any nation, it is a actually contrary to human nature. Healthy grownup men do not find little children sexually attractive The point is that Muhammad was not healthy. He was a pedophile, a very sick man. How he got away with it? He claimed to be a prophet and as such put himself above the scrutiny of mortals. Who dared to question Allah and his messenger? He had control over the life and death of the people in Medina. He acted very much like Jim Jones in his Jonestown in Guyana where he could sleep with any woman he pleased, and like David Korsh in his compound, where he had sex with every woman and even with the teenaged daughters of his followers while prohibiting them to touch their own wives. People who fall prey to cults do stupid things. They kill others, like the followers of Charles Manson, Shoko Asahara and Muhammad and kill themselves like the followers of Jim Jones, David Koresh or the Heaven's Gate. Islam is a cult and Muhammad was a cult leader. I have proven this point with evidence in my book Understanding Muhamamd The apologist concludes. �In my opinion, neither was it an Arab tradition to give away girls in marriage at an age as young as nine or ten years, nor did the Prophet (pbuh) marry Aisha (ra) at such a young age. The people of Arabia did not object to this marriage, because it never happened in the manner it has been narrated.� Answer: It may not have been a tradition then but since Muhammad set the example, every pervert pedophile finds justification and validation for taking children as brides and the ignorant parents, who are often poor, let their little girl to be abused for the greed of money. http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/ayesha_age.htm |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Sir Olabowale Lets Discuss Aisha's Age by ssosisi: 12:33am On Jul 18, 2009 |
olabowale: aisha was not going there as a warrior. She went to keep mohammed company at night Isn't that commonsense? |
Religion / Re: The Story Of Moses: Bible And Quran' Be The Judge by ssosisi: 9:01pm On Jul 17, 2009 |
Abuzola: Waraqua wrote the stories he copied into the Koran. That is my point read the hadiths again |
Career / Re: B.a(religions), Where Can One Work With It? by ssosisi: 8:32pm On Jul 17, 2009 |
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