epainos:
Arbor Acre Plus: Small-Scale Breeding Program
This is a program I am starting as a result of the suggestions and discussions in this thread. I was right to take the bull by the horns and bring the issue here, knowing that I would get answers to the high cost of day-old chicks. This is the breed Chi (Ajanla), Amo, and some other hatcheries produce here in Naija. You can easily attain 3kg in 6 weeks. And if you decide to grow it beyond 6 weeks, it can give you massive meat yield.

Summary of 40 weeks of Egg Production
Note that these projected figures are for one female bird.

Age at depletion - 448 days (64 weeks)
Total eggs - 192.7
Hatching eggs - 180.6
Chicks/female housed at 175 days (25 weeks) - 156.5
% Hatchability - 86.6
Age at 5% productions - 175 days (25 weeks)
% Peak Production - 89.6
Body weight at depletion - 4.1kg to 4.22kg
Liveability (rearing period)% - 95 - 96
Liveability (laying period)% - 92
Approx feed per bird for the project: 56kg (Still working on getting the real accurate figure).

Feed Quality
These parent stocks contain a moderate amount of protein. We start with about 19% crude protein and gradually reduce it to 13% crude protein. Not as expensive as commercial ones, we require 20 - 23% starter and finish with 17%.

The bulk of the feed is 13% to 14%, and a bag can cost up to N14,000.

The cost of feeding a bird
I will not go into detail about the total cost of production, but since we know that the feeding cost is the most important, let us look at it right away. Please, kindly note that I am going to dig more into this.

Each bird will consume 56kg for the project. The bulk is 14% crude protein. Of course, there are cheaper brands. Each bird will eat N31,360 worth of feed. Shikena. 12 birds will be less than N400k. (This will be reviewed further...I am making a rough estimate here...I will still dig more into this).


Sales
Sales per bird
Approx 180 Hatching eggs.

1. Day Old at N900 per bird. Sales is 162,000. 10 birds will give 1.6 million naira. You can easily remove your cost of production from this.

2. 4 weeks old birds at N2,500 - N4,500 (depending on the size). 10 birds will give (5% mortality rate): 5.99 million naira at 3,500 each.

3. If you choose to grow to 2kg and 3kg, you will have 40 to 50 chicks per week.

I laugh at the guy who argued with me that it is not worth it on this thread. Please carefully review these projections. I tell you, if you do not know how to handle data and figures, you will just talk nonsense. Indeed, your operation will be "ye-ye-lism." Data Science is currently the order of the day. When you have figures, you can better prepare yourself.

These big boys make good money because they can invest. What is stopping five people from putting this together?

Criteria for joining me
1. Previous experience successfully managing at least one carton of broilers. I will carefully ask you questions.

2. If you have a thread on NL, show me. That's gonna be a straightforward pass.

3. NL's teachers are welcomed. I have seen some interesting broiler management threads here, and if any of you are interested, I would be delighted to welcome you.

If you have any questions, please post them here. For the time being, I will not engage in private chat or email. It is for my peace of mind. I have learned to put everything here first... When I have a clear direction, I can open private chats. For the time being, everything is centered on this thread.

Sincerely Yours!


Note: I am not managing birds for anyone. 5 interested people can take 10 birds each. 4 can take 12 to 13 each. Carry your birds to your place and start breeding. Of course, we are going to learn together. So, don't come and ask me for ROI. "Shi-shi".... a no dey do. Find your ROI elsewhere. Strictly for practising poultry farmers. Breed, sell day- old chicks, 4 weeks chicks, or 3kg plus chickens consistently.

I meet all the criteria. I sent you a DM.

christejames:
This one na mass failure ooo






The younglings are no longer motivated to study!

It is only to do skits and lewd comedy and to buy the latest iPhone that they know. Meanwhile their mates abroad are developing the next generation of technologies everywhere.

I am sure he has weighed himself on the scale recently and has lost a few pounds, that's why he is wailing up and down.

SSSbuster:
Help! I need advice. I was using a CD, but it burst. I know there's a drug that can prevent HIV infection if taken within 24 hours of exposure. To be safe, I sought out the drug, known as Post-Exposure Prophylaxis (PEP). However, the ph0armacist didn't have it in stock, so they offered me an alternative called Aurobindo (see image below). I'm not familiar with drugs, but can anyone tell me if Aurobindo can be used as PrEP (Pre-Exposure Prophylaxis) to prevent HIV after exposure?

I want t make sure I have the correct drug, as I still have time to go find it if this one isn't the right one.

If you are not using Truvada, you are wasting time.

epainos:




I smile many times when I read comments like this. In a nation of over 300 million people. Lol

When you understand the market dynamics of an emerging market that is facing recession, you will know what to do. Like I explained above, supplying is out of it. What exactly are those buying imported frozen chicken doing? Research everything well. If you are ready to add another level below what you are producing, you will see more opportunities.

Just like my brother is trying to discourage me from moving to a higher level than commercial broilers - hatching...the same way I don't you guys will really want to go below this level.
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If you are willing to move up and down the value chain level of poultry production you are operating presently, you will see tons of opportunities.

Production is not the main profit... rather it is marketing and sales. Move into what sells. People buy poultry products massively in Nigeria. Those things poor and pako pikin dey chop..produce them. That's how tongo about it.

The issue is that the wahala of producing meat and eggs is too much, so many want to stop there. Instead, downsize that and move up and down your level to find a good niche for yourself.

People may not be able to buy live chicken of N10k to N15k, but I see many pako pikin buying legs around. Is that not part of what you produce? I see pako pikin eat eggs. Yes, they eat eggs anyhow. Is it not part of the value chain? All you have to do is sit down and restrategize.

You are looking at the picture of a whole family. Do Nigerian homes look like they feed together? How many homes feed together in Nigeria? Lol. Families that eat together in Nigeria are less than 20% of the total population. Lol. Those who understand the market will rather target the remaining 80%. I laughed when I read your comments. You have limited yourself seriously by targeting families that feed together. Go to Isale Eko, Ajegunle, Ajah, and many places in Lagos..mmif you see up to 1% of families that feed together, you are a good explorer.

I used the bolded as an example, also looking at where I grew up (in an estate housing workers in the same institution: nearly 300 families plus).

We never ate chicken except on Sundays, our birthdays, Christmas and Easter. I speak of from 1983 when our family finances took a hit from the austerity measures of that era. Other families with more kids than we were in our household did not eat chicken with such regularity. We mostly ate beef and fish. Even goat meat was considered a luxury. I am very sure that this consumption pattern still holds in MOST Nigerian households, where parents work in institutions with capped salaries.

Fast forward to today. A major customer of mine who uses my chickens in his hotel and fast food joints has seen their chicken demand drop off. I know because I ask the sales contact I interface with. Even his purchases from well established companies for sale in his supermarket have reduced. I was in his supermarket yesterday and his usually full freezer was stone empty.

Unless the way forward is to sell chicken parts, or open your own shawarma or chicken suya joint at places like the airports or other places where those with money can spend it on expensive chicken, I find it a bit hard to see a successful business model if the current trend continues.

Something has to give.

yemmit90:
My assessment as someone in the game;

1. Chicken is very scarce now due to high cost of production, which already cut off about 50% of farmers and quantity in the market.

2. Demands for chicken is still very low but still enough for few quantity in circulation. alot of people can't afford it, but due to the fact that only few farmers are still in the business, the price is moderately ok.

3. Opening or closing of border doesn't hindered supply of frozen food, the major problem is exchange rate of cefa to naira. Except dollar come down to around #700, local poultry farmers will still have competitive advantage in the market.

4. If the price of feed is not come down, and dollar drop hard below 1k after opening of border, majority of local poultry will shut down.

5. The few that are left in the business are making good profits now than before.

Additionally, alot of Farmers are just giving excuses of high cost of feed and materials as a major reason they shut down, the real reason is that, they have used the business capital to survive Tinubu economy . Is it a family that is looking for money to feed that will use about 20k to buy a bag of feed? Dey play

The right question to have asked is whether a family that is looking for money to feed will prefer to buy chicken or substitute with fish, bush rat meat, or other protein sources?

As a broiler farmer, there is a limit to which you can set prices or you price yourself out of the market. Consumers have choices.

So instead of buying a bag of feed for 20k, the farmer will opt to use his money elsewhere.

Natbrowny:


Even local is high bro. And u'll need two to get the meat size of 1 broiler.

Noilers n kuroilers and duals are expensive as f*ck

The suya guys usually use locals for chicken suya, not broilers.

I stopped stocking broilers last year after the Sayed breeds I got seriously underperformed in weight despite the rising cost of feed.

I was not prepared to start battling the crazy heat and other issues like feed nearing 20k a bag, yet some people will be pricing N2,600 and N2,700 per kg. Not worth it.

I have decided to go the route of Fulani local birds. I had some a short while ago. Prolific egg-layers they are too. Only that my dogs usually wait until they are large enough and then start eating them.

Oloki:
Rain refuse to fall till today. People that planted during the first rainfall, their plants had burnt up due to excess heat.

May God have mercy o. Even those who aren't farming are dying of excess heat

They should follow the NiMET seasonal rainfall predictions.

Chukwuka319:

You are married and still sleeps with a prostitute?
Something is wrong somewhere.

You are right. The guy's head is not normal.

The same way he is going raw, she is doing it with other guys too.

The kind of stupidity men display when it comes to sex is unbelievable. I just pity the idiot's wife.

Macphenson:
Nonsense and ingredients. A country outsourcing the protection of its territorial waters to an individual is the first sign of failed state.

So Tantita is well equiped and more trained than the Nigerian Navy?

One day Boko haram will help us protect our northern borders in this country.

Even the US uses military contractors in some of its covert operations.

You discipline first, before you offer counselling.

The statement is more like they are trying to appease the bully.

That song took us back to 1979. My best song on that album was Rock With You.

Creamypie:
am 42 years old sir. I 1989/90 she went for beauty contest in Russia. She did very well. I think last 3 or so

She was MBGN in 1988.

Jostoman:
Russia will soon come here to show their Okrika supersonic bomber

Have you ever heard of the Sukhoi-75 Checkmate stealth bomber? (Russia)

or

the Xi'an H-20 Chinese-made stealth bomber?

Russia and China are already there.

The message is for Iran.

The same Israel that supplies your DSS with its TAR-21 assault rifle variants.

Same Israel that supplied the Uzi rifle that Abacha held personally to rally troops to put down the April 22 1990 coup attempt when IBB ran away from Dodan Barracks.

Same Israel that Egypt had to beg for a peace agreement in 1978 so the entire Sinai Peninsula can be returned to them.

Same "poor" Israel that has held the Golan Heights since 1967. Make Syria try go collect am naa.

Iraq that was smaller than Iran battered Iran in the 8-year war of 1980 - 1988 wey Saddam Hussein use nerve gas and finished Iranian soldiers in several battlefronts, to the point Iran was forced to accept the UN-brokered ceasefire to end that war. Is that a country to face Israel that defeated the armed forces of 3 nations in 6 days in 1967, and grounded the entire Egyptian airforce in the 1st day if that conflict?

In case you don't know, US is about to supply Israel with an additional $1bn worth of military hardware. Fani-Kayode is known for all talk and no action. His PDP government could not even deal with Boko Haram. Nonsense!

Urheadmaster:
Must there be motive anytime a politician died of helicopter crash

In any kind of politics where religion or ethnicity is involved, nothing is off the table.

Mohamed Zia Ul-Haq of Pakistan overthrew Zulfika Ali Bhutto in the 70s, had the man killed, and ruled with an iron fist. Then tormented his daughter Benazir from pillar to post.

Ul-Haq died in a plane crash in 1988 or thereabout. Evidence indicates the plane was sabotaged. Till today, nobody knows who did it.

Fast forward several years. Benazir Bhutto herself was killed in a bomb blast. Her husband is president of Pakistan today.

Musical chairs is the name of the game in politics, fueled by ethnic and religious sentiments. Ethnic sentiments are usually stronger because politics is a grassroots game. Your village people or those who you speak the same language are the readily available support base.

Watch this video of President Ruto describing the late general.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kmHmREZ2eg

Biodun556:
What is the reserve doing there?

Let's spend it

If this report is true, where did the CBN sees the 7 billion dollars to use to pay foreign airlines and others when Nigeria foreign reserve was 32 billion dollars

I am sure if we have a peek into your own accounts, you have zero savings.

Do you know what is the meaning of "reserve"?

DaddyYankee:
Israel is a very useless and overhyped country!!

They are only good at killing civilians.


Iran is not Palestine.

Be careful Israel!


Going after Iran, Israel might be calling for her end!

Wishful thinking. Go ask what happened in the Iran-Iraq war of 1980 - 1988. Saddam Hussein dealt with them and showed them shege promax.

sarrki:
Michael olayemi cardoso the cbn governor Cardoso may sell his next dollars to the BDC at N800.



Let’s discuss this !!!
Please real time updates till when dollars fall bellow 200 per dollar

Which reserves will you use to achieve this?

Racoon:
Aunty Nkem just like the late Frank Olize Newsline show were weekend delights. I think there were times the late Uncle Jimi Solanke( of blessed memory) also handled the Tales by Moonlight show. Say hi if this show also spiced up your childhood. Mods let the indomie generation learn something.

Jimi Solanke handled Storyland. 1989.

Righteousness2:
There was nothing wrong in what God's Servant Pst Paul Eneche did in trying to question the Testimony of our Sister as it didnt sound right.

Probably due to stage freight or something of that nature, our sister made some Error in testifying what God did for her.

To GOD be the Glory , Every doubt has been Cleared.
Sister sorry for the inconveniences. It is one of the things done to Ensure every doubts are cleared.


98% of those complaning and making noise are people who do not even care about GOD.
They just want to make noise and find a way to insult the Church.

Please stop condoning what is wrong. The pastor is not above mistakes. He realized this and apologized.

You don't embarrass people publicly in that manner. Anyone can say anything, but leaders have to watch their words because what they say has consequences.

nairalanda1:


That's not quite true. Most African countries have the same issues. Even in the West, once upon a time in the 1970's USA, fuel cost less than 1 dollar per gallon...today it is between 1-7 dollars per gallon!

Nigeria and many other African countries are resource dependent, which means that when the prices of our resources are high, times are good.The 1973-82 was a period of markedly elevated oil prices. It was a time when government was heavily subsidising food and many other things apart from petrol and power. Then prices crashed, government tried to keep up subsides, but by 1985, they had to face reality.

Infact the 1980's was mostly hard after 1982.

And even then, most people were poor and suffering.

Watch the below documentary from 1984, made before Buhari took power.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEsqiqOoRLg

GIves you a good idea of the conditions then. People were not in good state.

That documentary was made when Buhari was in power with Idiagbon. The documentary angered the regime heavily. By April of that year, Decrees No. 2 and No, 4 were in place, allowing for indefinite detention of anyone deemed as a subversive factor to the government (Decree 2) and also punishment for anyone who wrote anything the government found offensive (Decree 4).

Ask journalists of that era. They saw hell.

jazzman7711:
Yawn….

Minimum wage then was 80 naira a month.

So that list doesn’t prove anything.

Children posting rubbish.

Back then those prices were expensive for the common man.

Even in the 1980s, my pocket money for a whole semester at university was 500 naira, and it was more than enough for everything including catching cruise, shacking beer everyday etc..

My father's monthly pay as at then was N650. By 1982, he was earning N800. We lived like kings then. Everything turned on its head in 1986, same year SP Okongwu and Kalu Idika Kalu introduced the Second-tier Foreign Exchange Market (SFEM), and it was just downhill from there.

Jennyclay:
May God bless the Ghanaian man.

Ghanaian men are more trustworthy than our criminal minded Nigerian men.

What goes through the mind of Nigerian men is to kill, rape and steal your money and property.

Nonsense men!!

Honestly, Nigerian men irritates me like hell

Try buying land or looking for a house to rent in Ghana, then come back here.

The whole thing looks staged.

You know what acid is?

Originalsly:
Government can not get involved ... or Air Peace will see hell abroad. The most they can do is give a much better in-flight service to offset the price difference. Try to be like Emirates... serve a much better and local inflight meals etc. Consult with the FG to have a hastle free check in and check out experience with Immigration .... have a better Customer Service desk and I'm sure they wouldn't have to worry about the price war ... their flights will all be filled.

Maybe you don't know how the $3,500 bond imposed by the UK government on Nigerian inbound travellers under Captain Demuren's tenure as Head of NCAA was shelved. Demuren showed them shege. Government can and should get involved when the need arises.

LegendHero:
The government needs to find a way to step in to help.

Either we also flood the market with multiple Nigeria airlines flying that route so they too can gang up, or government find a way to support Airpeace one way or the other.

I’m sure when these foreign airline success and Airpeace run out of capacity to deliver, they will increase the price back and we go back to square one.

You think an airline can just wake up and start flying to another country without the latter's approval? You don't know how aviation works.

Tit for tat.

This is a clear case of "you talk anyhow, you see anyhow."

Jimoh Ibrahim used this strategy to hedge his Naira loan exposures, only repaying them off when the Pound had significantly gained against the Naira.

iichidodo:
CBN has kick-started a down ward trend in the fx market, something no other entity has managed to do in any third world country, there's every possibility that IMF and other foreign financial bodies are watching Nigeria with keen interest. If CBN listens and allows the money grabbing and exploitative cabal that is the BDCs to teach them their work, then all the good work of the past 1 month will fall to pieces.....And we go back to beg France to use CFAs

CBN is simply paying subsidy on the Naira-Dollar rate. Until the core fundamentals change (stop fuel imports, cut down on dollar demand for school fees, medicals, etc), it won't last.