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Christianity EtcRe: Do Homosexuals Have A Place In God's Kingdom? by StarFire08(f): 12:24am On Jan 11, 2021
[quote author=MuttleyLaff post=97908633]Yes, persons can be born homosexual. They can be born with sexual attraction to their own sex and not to the opposite sex.

Matthew 19:12, in the words of Yahshua Ha Mashiah, aka Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour of the world testifies to this fact and truth

The Bible is not a book on sexology, so why are you expecting to directly read on the biology of homosexual desires in it. Smh sigh.

You are proof-texting there with Romans 7:21-25 and you know it angry angry angry.

If you had anatomically and physiologically done your research properly, you would have found and learn how homosexual were divinely given thought to in the design of man.

The Bible prohibits promiscuous homosexual acts. Period. It prohibits homosexual acts associated with male/female temple prostitution, pagan ritual sexual orgies, lying to oneself and ones nature, idolatry sex worship desecrating the worship and reverence of God, sperm consumption and fertility ritual ceremonies et cetera, lmso[/quo
You're always going off point in what you're typing .it's always lengthy with no message relating to the post
LiteratureRe: John Donne's Works by StarFire08(op): 12:21am On Jan 11, 2021
Sanchez01:
Hello, StarFire08. I promised I was going to get back with the analysis last night but I couldn't, no thanks to overworking. For that, I am sorry.

Anyways, I studied the poem already and it is not what it looks, going by the title (typical of metaphysical poets). So here is my analysis.

Analysis of John Donne's "The Ecstasy"

The word ‘ecstasy’: from the Greek ekstasis, ex stasis, literally ‘outside standing’ – i.e. standing outside of oneself, or apart from oneself. A truly ‘ecstatic’ experience is always, to some extent, an out-of-body experience (OBE). Thus, Donne's "The Ecstasy" is about the separation of the body and soul, which seems odd at first, since elsewhere his poetry explores the idea that the soul and the body are, in fact, one. Typically, the idea of ecstasy with metaphysical poets will most likely suggest a provocative, sensual body of work but Donne's deviation from that 'norm' seems odd, different and surprising at first glance.

Donne begins ‘The Ecstasy’ which runs into nineteen quatrains with a typically passionate scene as the backdrop for the lovers to embrace and experience the 'ecstasy'. The setting is natural, very calm and quiet. The scenery is described in erotic terms: the riverbank is "like a pillow on a bed"; it also is "pregnant". The reference to pillow, bed and pregnancy suggest sexuality, though the poet says that their love is 'asexual'. Indeed, the image of asexual reproduction of the violent plant is used to compare the lovers' only 'propagation'. It is springtime, and violets are in bloom. It is pastoral settings were lovers are sitting together, holding each other's hand and looking intently into each other's eyes. Their eyes meet and reflect the images of each other, and their sights are woven together. 

In the fourth and fifth stanzas, Donne tells us that, while their two bodies remain motionless there, like ‘statues’ as they sit holding hands on the bank, their two souls are in negotiations, like two, equal great armies. In the sixth and seventh stanzas, Donne says that if anyone had been nearby to hear their souls speaking to each other, he would have experienced an exchange of souls so pure and refined that he would have left richer than he was before.

Donne then says that hearing their souls speak to each other has made plain the nature of their feelings for each other: they didn’t know before, but their souls have made it plain. But Donne doesn’t want their souls to do all the talking: he wants to be joined in physical union (‘But O alas, so long, so far / Our bodies why do we forbear?’). Their souls being joined is all well and good, but to propagate and have children, their bodies need to come together too. ‘The Ecstasy’ thus turns into a poem of seduction and even, on one level, a 'carpe diem' or ‘seize the day’ poem:

'And if some lover, such as we,
Have heard this dialogue of one,
Let him still mark us, he shall see
Small change, when we’are to bodies gone.'


Such a conclusion chimes with another of Donne’s poems, ‘The Flea’, more than we might at first expect.


In making sense of the sexual connotations in the work, the suggestion of what happens when men and women join their bodies together (‘pregnant’) is transposed to the bank on which the lovers sit, while the word ‘breast’ lurks behind the lines without actually being spoken, thanks to the pressure of the ‘swell’d’ bank, the mention of the ‘head’ of the violet, and the rhyme of rest/best. It is almost as if Donne’s thoughts are already on the bodily and physical, even while he and his beloved sit there simply holding sweaty hands.

Donne tries to convey to the readers that the foundation of spiritual love is the physical attachment; the eyes serve as a gateway to the soul. Moreover, the physical union has produced an even stronger spiritual bond that is far more powerful than each individual's soul. Donne refers the violet to tell us that the fusion of the lover's soul produces a new "abler soul" like the violet, which doubles its vigor when it is grafted together with another. Then the lovers are now able to seek spiritual pleasure rather than purely physical pleasure. In this union, the two souls find strength like a violet when it is transplanted. As such, the single united soul is able to grow with new energy. The united soul is perfect, unchanging and also with new energy. The united soul is perfect, unchanging and also transcends the "defects of loneliness", or the single soul. The two lovers now understand that true love is the result of their physical attachment provoking spiritual union. Souls are spiritual beings. They move with the help of the bodies. The body is the medium of contact of the two souls. Therefore, the lovers turn to their bodies and try to understand the mystery of love. The body is the medium to experience love. So spirits must act through bodies. If love is to be free, it requires physical as well as spiritual outlets.

The persona proceeds to question why religious institutions have imposed blind thoughts diving the body and soul (most religion, particularly Christianity is of the opinion that man is a tripartite being, consisting of the body, soul and spirit). The poem is also a criticism of the conventional idea of love that supports the separation of the bodies, and hence the souls. He makes an appeal to his readers to nourish their souls through their bodies and reach towards the point of extreme joy, or 'ecstasy'.

As a metaphysical poem, ‘The Ecstasy’ brings together (or juxtaposes) opposites; Donne has also reconciled such opposites as the medieval and the modern, the spiritual and physical, the scientific or secular and the religious, the abstract and the concrete, the remote and the familiar, the ordinary and the metaphysical. This is largely done through imagery and conceit in which widely opposite concepts are brought together.
Thanks alot
EducationRe: What A Student Wrote In His Exam Sheet. by StarFire08(f): 11:09am On Jan 10, 2021
Lwkmd, So the guy fit write prayer request for full page but no fit stress him brain write at least for correct answer .
LiteratureRe: John Donne's Works by StarFire08(op): 9:28am On Jan 08, 2021
Sanchez01:
Please share. I am seeing 'The Ecstasy' online and it is a bit confusing. Please confirm if it is the same with this: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44099/the-ecstasy


Modified:

Just confirmed they are the same.
Yes
LiteratureRe: John Donne's Works by StarFire08(op): 9:28am On Jan 08, 2021
Sanchez01:
Please share. I am seeing 'The Ecstasy' online and it is a bit confusing. Please confirm if it is the same with this: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44099/the-ecstasy


Modified:

Just confirmed they are the same.
LiteratureRe: John Donne's Works by StarFire08(op): 8:45am On Jan 08, 2021
Sanchez01:
I am a huge fan of John Donne. As a matter of fact, metaphysical poets are about the only poets that exist in my world. Strangely, I have never read or studied 'Extasie' but the idea of the title, which is most likely to be from the original word 'ecstacy'. If you have a link to the poem online, kindly share a theme and I could assist before today runs out, if that's fine.
One of the themes-The ecstasy of love
LiteratureRe: John Donne's Works by StarFire08(op): 8:34am On Jan 08, 2021
Sanchez01:
I am a huge fan of John Donne. As a matter of fact, metaphysical poets are about the only poets that exist in my world. Strangely, I have never read or studied 'Extasie' but the idea of the title, which is most likely to be from the original word 'ecstacy'. If you have a link to the poem online, kindly share a theme and I could assist before today runs out, if that's fine.
I don't have the link . just pictures of the poem
LiteratureRe: John Donne's Works by StarFire08(op): 8:17am On Jan 08, 2021
Sanchez 01 Madjune
LiteratureJohn Donne's Works by StarFire08(op): 8:09am On Jan 08, 2021
I've been doing some research on John Donne's work (metaphysical poetry) and it going well but there is this particular one that's giving me issues.
Extasie, I need to get the themes ,analysis on this particular one .Please anyone who can help me with it .Come to my rescue .
EducationRe: UNIBEN To Resume Academic Activities January 30th, 2021 by StarFire08(f): 7:10pm On Jan 05, 2021
seanwiIliam:
that my account has been banned. You know I can't spew my name on this faceless forum. Kindly drop your WhatsApp contact or email address
08081459897
EducationRe: UNIBEN To Resume Academic Activities January 30th, 2021 by StarFire08(f): 5:30pm On Jan 05, 2021
Collinsemegreat:
Check if the browser you use autosaved it
I've seen your message .
EducationRe: UNIBEN To Resume Academic Activities January 30th, 2021 by StarFire08(f): 5:29pm On Jan 05, 2021
useIess2020:
same course same level cool
In Edu too? your name please.
EducationRe: UNIBEN To Resume Academic Activities January 30th, 2021 by StarFire08(f): 5:27pm On Jan 05, 2021
Jeremy123:
Quantity Surveying I'm Jeremy tho What's your real name?
Stephanie.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by StarFire08(f): 2:14pm On Jan 05, 2021
Bigcowhorn:
Sometimes, depending on what you do, the bots can ban you. Not mods, robots.
OK thanks
EducationRe: UNIBEN To Resume Academic Activities January 30th, 2021 by StarFire08(f): 9:24am On Jan 05, 2021
Collinsemegreat:
Check if the browser you use autosaved it
Changed. it
EducationRe: UNIBEN To Resume Academic Activities January 30th, 2021 by StarFire08(f): 9:22am On Jan 05, 2021
Collinsemegreat:
Check if the browser you use autosaved it
Changed. it
EducationRe: UNIBEN To Resume Academic Activities January 30th, 2021 by StarFire08(f): 8:39am On Jan 05, 2021
Collinsemegreat:
Mostly likely, It will be filled online or printed from kofa and filled manual then submitted to Deans office.

Inbtw, Also in my finals... Let's connect as I will e-mail yo
I can't remember my kofa password again.
Faculty?
EducationRe: UNIBEN To Resume Academic Activities January 30th, 2021 by StarFire08(f): 8:12am On Jan 05, 2021
BleedingPen:
It's COVID-19 related. I want to believe it is to collect bio data of students in preparedness for test upon resumption.
Thanks
EducationRe: UNIBEN To Resume Academic Activities January 30th, 2021 by StarFire08(f): 8:11am On Jan 05, 2021
Jeremy123:
500 What are you studying?
English and literature (edu).And you?
EducationRe: UNIBEN To Resume Academic Activities January 30th, 2021 by StarFire08(f): 7:01am On Jan 05, 2021
Jeremy123:
Just relax first Another update for the questionnaire would soon be released.
What level are you?
Three hundred and you?
EducationRe: UNIBEN To Resume Academic Activities January 30th, 2021 by StarFire08(f): 6:43am On Jan 05, 2021
11Anonymous:
When the time comes, you'll understand.

Let's be friends na, since you're a girl cheesy
I need to know now cos the way I'm seeing I'll graduate this year .Please kindly explain it to me
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by StarFire08(f): 6:35am On Jan 05, 2021
Oludami1:
'demons like you' ~ I love that.
Yeah, I am new to nairaland. I think I was reported by one of them for GodKnowsWhat offence. I suddenly noticed I couldn't like, share, reply nor quote. I was just surprised. It is well.
I don't know why they keep doing this, anyone who comment will be tagged a demonic agent. I've been a guest for months ,I decided to open an account to ask for help and the next thing I was banned ,called an agent .And whoever is doing it will claim he/she is a certified Christian. That's bad.
EducationRe: UNIBEN To Resume Academic Activities January 30th, 2021 by StarFire08(f): 6:25am On Jan 05, 2021
Who can please explain the first one .The questionnaire stuff,cos I'm confused.
EducationRe: UNIBEN Releases Academic Calendar by StarFire08(f): 3:24pm On Jan 04, 2021
Praise God ohhh
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by StarFire08(f): 3:44pm On Jan 03, 2021
Bigcowhorn:
Noted. Parts of the advice still applies
Good morning.
Thanks
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by StarFire08(f): 3:37pm On Jan 03, 2021
CharlyG1:
It will be shared tonight.
God bless you.
I can't wait oh Bro Charles. Jesus Christ will give you strength for his work .
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by StarFire08(f): 3:33pm On Jan 03, 2021
TheNoble007:
Now this is a warning to everyone reading this. In the rising of any protest, kindly don't participate or go out to see.. Lives will be lost. Some Politicians will loose their lives, as I said before, a very very notable one will be killed . I saw the armed forces banding up and were killing citizens like never before. I saw blood shed. I cried and lamented. Oh what is happening to Nigeria? Who can save her? I saw nations watching. The US was watching. I saw that they were reluctant to intervene. The world was watching. A revolt that she has never seen since the Nigerian /Biafran war. Ah! If God does not intervene, Nigeria will cease to be the Giant of Africa, which is in terms of population.

Prayer is needed. I have shared!



Shalom.
Thank you for the info .God bless you .
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by StarFire08(f): 3:36pm On Jan 02, 2021
CharlyG1:
It's one person using several monikers.

These are not just lesbians, but they're actually people possessed with marine spirits. And they always try to pervert a man or woman, to trap them in a sin; usually the sin of sexual immorality (because it binds) so that a covenant is formed between them, their victims and their so called goddess/demon(s).


This is the fastest method by which marine agents kill the destinies of men and women. Sexual Immorality.
Good day bro Charles, I don't have different monikers .And by the grace of God ,I'm not possessed.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by StarFire08(f): 3:32pm On Jan 02, 2021
dvine2020:
I knew u were up to no good from the beginning. Trust me nobody here was deceived by ur plea for help. We know u are female. All ur so called dreams were made up lies. Madam Lesbian or should I call u sister fire
My dreams are out of it egbon.don't call me madam lesbian cos I'm not a lesbian.Thanks and happy new year.
Christianity EtcRe: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by StarFire08(f): 10:49am On Jan 02, 2021
Bigcowhorn:
Better go and stick your dick in a bottle of cold water before that lesbian ex-cult leader turn Cameroonian Army officer cuts it off for you.
I'm not a guy

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