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MaxInDHouse:
The group name CHRISTIANS has been BASTARDIZED and CURSED that why many false religions are hiding under it but never mind JEHOVAH has given us another group name now {Isaiah 65:15} that's why you failed to know that those countless religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines aren't true Christians. John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

Do churches of nowadays agree that they're on the same page?
Take for instance Deeperlife and Celestial or RCCG and Cherubim and Seraphim.
Do you think they can get married and continue attending their different religions?

Stop avoiding questions.
Can you?
JW the cult group, please answer
Don’t divert questions.
Stop playing smart

Did Jesus tell you to do this. Is other churches your yardstick?

Janosky:
MUMU WAILER deceiving himself

Do you think outside your pastorpreneurs gibberish?
Staying alive man paying monthly fees to his pastorpreneurs with his fellow 3 deities devotees is accusing JWs about herd mentality.
The same man who dare not climb the pulpit to challenge his pastorpreneurs is accusing another man of herd mentality.

Phillipians 2:2
"make my joy complete by thinking the same way, having the same love, united in spirit, intent on one
purpose"

1 Corinthians 14:33,40 & Phillipians 2:2 proven your IBERIBEISM coming online to discredit the holy scriptures.

You condemn the herd mentality which you practice in Christendom.
Hypocrite,Shame on you!?

You actually just avoided the question.
I know you would do that.
Your kind never does anything different than dodge a good question coming with the heat 🔥.
You are actually a baby JW, you actually don’t know much really

Janosky:

The same man without the liver to challenge his gods of men from the pulpit is accusing another man of not having a mind of his own.

Oga, carry your MUMU komot from this thread.

The simple question is?

Would a JW feel unattacked if he decides to celebrate one’s birthday?
Can a Jehovah witness dare sing the National anthem?
Can a Jehovah witness dare marry from other denominations?

NO!!!!
A cult that keeps its member on their toes.
Janosky I dare to hallucinate and lie you can do them or

Tell the truth and don’t lie

The choice is yours

MaxInDHouse:
As true Christians we have choices in some of the things in this world and in most we don't have a choice because we are guided by the teachings of our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus {2Corinthians 5:15 compare to Luke 14:27} so you're right true Christians are like those walking on a narrow path where there is little or no chances of switching lanes! Matthew 7:13-14


YES Nelson lost everything he had in his pursuit of political ambitions: his family, the trust most people had in him as if he will turn South Africa into a Paradise for indigenes, his hope of achieving what he had promised those who lost their lives and their bereaved families and most of all how to completely liberate Africa as a whole from colonial masters. All what was left for him was the program set by politicians just to please his people that he was once in office after all the struggle and today the name of Nelson Mandela has become part of the long list of South African presidents yet just a few years back his people were attacking their black brothers from other countries simply because they never got what they dreamed from their only hope: Nelson Mandela!
So you have no point at all, there has never been any elected politician who was able to turn around the condition of his people and there will never be. The reason for that i won't tell you because it's obvious you hate the truth.
However i have proved to know better than you do in what you are arguing about which is POLITICS!

You have no choice as a JW, don’t drag Christianity into this. Christianity didn’t say you must only fellowship with Jehovah witness, Christianity didn’t say you should only marry from Jehovah witness. Bro you’re in a cage, I know it feels sad, I know you have no choice. You don’t.

I also understand the reason why most JW try to feel like they have an option or an opinion but in-depth they dare not do anything else other than their doctrines. So watch them make variation of their doctrines to suite line they can’t pass. You hear them say thinks like
1. I don’t actually like to vote
2. I don’t like how other church organize their services.
3. Other leaders don’t lead like the way it is in Jehovah witness
4. I don’t like celebrating birthday

😭😭😭🥺 I understand the need to find meaning

Try break one of those JW doctrine and let’s see where you end up. I dare you to try to think you’re free if you won’t be ostracized from the rest of JW. I dare you. You’re in a prison. I understand you try to find solace by trying to find meaning to your meaningless doctrines and indoctrination . It’s sad bro. I know


As for Nelson Mandela. I leave you to your twisted and warped view. Until the day you decide to be free. Enjoy your cage

Janosky:
YES,it does.
Oga Stayingalive, Do you believe in God's word the holy Bible?

Was Ephesians 3:14-21 written to guide you?
Paul wrote that prayer & said "AMEN" how many times?

Was 1 Corinthians 4:6 written to guide you?

"Do NOT go beyond the things that are written"

OR


Stayingalive Christian wey Ephesians chapter 3 no dey teach am anything to guide his faith.
Oga,Continue WAILING & DECEIVING yourself.

Only children talk the way you do. I don’t argue about you lace shoe and you don’t lace shoe.
You said amen, you don’t say amen.

Those are for kids, it’s was never a foundation of Christianity

MaxInDHouse:
Nelson Mandela who was frustrated after he realized that he can't make any changes shey?

Guy we know all about politics and voting than anyone on this planet so we will never ever vote for any imperfect human.

For your information Nelson Mandela regretted his refusal to follow his first wife who became one of Jehovah's Witnesses when she introduced the truth to him.
Nelson thought he could make a change with his team who were struggling for independence back then but he later realized that all those killed and his imprisonment was a waste of time that's why he declined running for a second tenure in office.
His first wife and her children are members of Jehovah's Witnesses until her death.
https://bitterwinter.org/mama-evelyn-mandelas-first-wife-and-the-tai-ji-men-case/

So you know nothing about what you're arguing here!

Dont play smart, address the part that you don’t have a choice to participate in politics. It’s a herd mentality. You as a person have no choice

You simply twisted Nelson Mandela story and said he regretted not following Jehovah witness. Bro you’re indoctrinated too deep in this thinking. I wish I could free you. But you would break so no need

MaxInDHouse:
Can you mention one elected ruler in the history of mankind who has reversed inflation and make life sweet for the electorate just at it was two decades before he is elected?
My guy, that has never happen and it will never ever happen in politics.

So in a nutshell i've not done anything wicked by remaining neutral shey?
That's all i ever wanted in life!

even a small boy who only read history knows of Nelson Mandela. He even receive the Nobel peace prize award. You already said you don’t vote leaders so how can you then know effective or non effective leaders??

You keep repeating all your herd mentality knowledge and making it sound like you’re actually thinking meanwhile you’re not.
We both know you can’t vote. Your church would ostracized you. So you don’t have a choice.

I know you don’t have a choice, stop making it look like you do. Bro either have a reason or not, you dare not vote.

Accept the herd mentality
Stop pretending that you’re not one of the herd
Stop pretending like you can think outside JW
Stop creating your personal opinion to fit in JW
it’s also fine to say you don’t know why JW tell you to do somethings.
It’s fine to say you grew up with those ideologies and you’re not sure if they are right

Stop the hallucination
Stop pretending

achorladey:
As to the bold....

A brief history of these men is in order to give us the proper setting for the action that took place between them and Jesus when he was on earth. The name Pharisee, which means separated, sounds the keynote for this body of religious men. Sometime during the second century B.C. this group came into existence as the champions of Jewish exclusiveness. They are connected by many historians with the Hasidim, who were described as being “mighty men of Israel, even all such as were voluntarily devoted to the law”.


THEN Jesus spoke to the crowds and to his disciples, saying: ‘The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the seat of Moses. Therefore all the things they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds, for they say but do not perform.’

These words of Jesus Christ, the Messiah and Prophet of whom Moses spoke, clearly identify the Pharisees as men who had taken authority to themselves. They had seated themselves in Moses’ seat. Jehovah God gave the Law to Moses as a guide and rule for the Israelite people. For the Pharisees to have seated themselves in the seat of Moses would mean they professed to be teachers of the Law of God, the written Law as given to Moses contained in the Hebrew Scriptures. It would mean they should have turned the Israelite people to Jehovah their God.

The Pharisees did not agree with the Hellenizing influence that had affected so many of the Jews. They were determined that they, at least, would in no way become contaminated with Greek culture, literature and commerce. They separated themselves completely from all such influences. They became very exclusive. They took on a “better than thou” attitude, became formal and overly self-righteous. They gave minute interpretations and twists to the law. They exaggerated expectations of fulfillment of prophecy and gave literal and strictest attention to trivial acts of worship and external rites and ceremonies beyond the requirements of the law, placing the traditions of the older men of influence on an equal footing with the written inspired Scriptures. Instead of keeping with the times and speaking the international tongue of that time, Greek, they held to the Aramaic language, which the Jews had learned in Babylonish captivity many years previous.

From their very own religious publications

They are just some set of confused people. They also try to lie so hard to themselves and do it in a way that they begin to think they have a mind of their own. Meanwhile it’s a branch of same tree.

MaxInDHouse:
You need to calm down and respect people's beliefs because it's not by force to agree with you so everyone is useful depending on where they are needed.

Now back to your question, i have told you that i will support a politically elected leader or military leader once they mount that seat with whatever they ask me to do {Romans 13:1-4} as long as it does not negates the order from my God! Mark 12:17

But when it comes to choosing them i will not participate because that's what causes hatred among people in fact brothers, friends, lovers and many more easily become enemies when they differ in choice of rulers yet none of them can guarantee that their preferred ruler will make life sweeter for the people {Psalms 146:3-4} for this reason i will prefer to remain neutral so whoever they choose is OK by me.

Moreover there has never been a time when people elect any leader whose rule makes life easier for the populace please find out throughout the world whether there has been a time when any ruler is elected and things became better for the voters rather things have always gotten worsen than ever before.

So i will like to remain neutral so i won't have to hate or be hated by my neighbours and loved ones because of politics!

Can you see you’re trying so hard to stick with your herd mentality. You have spent year confusing yourself into the JW realities and finally it seem you have began to believe the lies. Your brain is full of lies.

1. First you said no good leaders has ever been voted. Are you even learned? Or do you even know how to read at all?

2. You will support who others vote, do you even have a choice? Everyone must support the choice of the majority, stop saying obvious things and make them look like you’re saying something super or unexpected.

3. You will do everything except the one that stand against your faith. Who else does anything against their faith?

Your problem is that you have been isolated so long you think you’re kinda special or doing something unique, meanwhile you’re lacking understanding in some fundamental things of life and your perception is quite bloated

MaxInDHouse:
This is what really moved me to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
I love adventures and when people say horrible things about something i make sure i verify to know exactly what is there but i'm just surprised that most people don't really know anything about Jehovah's Witnesses.
Take for instance you in person once asked me why i will not vote and i explained from my own PERSONAL conclusion on what's happening in politics but instead of seeing the reason as genuine you turn around telling me to answer for all Jehovah's Witnesses throughout the world.
So even though someone proved logically that he knows exactly what he's doing you will not respect his or her views simply because he chose to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

Your personal opinion is your personal opinion.
Jehovah witness do not vote globally, you know you just have to find your personal justification to follow the herd mentality cause if you don’t, you understand they would alienate you and use the blackmail tactics on you.

Perhaps this is not about you. You are a member of Jehovah Witness, what is the reason behind not voting in leaders and supporting good leadings. Come down from that fence and help your community and be a useful person

Legitz:
Tinubu 8 years no shaking

he goat

Janosky:
Fellowship with 3 deities devotees?
Why?

Ephesians 3:14-21, how many times did Paul said "AMEN"?

What did Jesus instruct you about repetitive prayers?

Which of your deities are your prayers directed to?

Jehovah witness is just the modern day Pharisees. The Pharisee just only do what Moses do but have no insight of what was actually right and wrong. To them it was simply a black and white shade.

To a Jehovah witness sin now so mechanical that we can simply write it out as a maths equation. If x = black then it is a sin else it is not.

Perhaps you still turn around to fail at your formula. Cause Paul wrote letter to many churches but none to Jehovah witness church. Neither did the Bible record the modern doctrines of Jehovah witness. Na wa o

A monochrome view of the world. A world where its more about the deed than the effect of the deed itself. How does the word “Amen” has anything to with the foundation of being a Christain or being right with God? Why is it now a topic of discussion when it is the turn of JW?

But how can I paint a picture to a blind man. How? So it’s just not possible. No worry

achorladey:
The key word you Stayingalive need is the one in bold. You will see that for MaxInDHouse to advance the madness and insanities peddling of his brains he must add claim to Christianity or Christian. The same person that said God changed their name from Christians to Jehovah’s witnesses and abandon the name Christian still come back and say people that bear Christians are claiming it. Is that enough evidence of madness and insanities peddling on nairaland?

Jehovah witness are mostly passionate and shallow mind people with no deep thinking mind to oppose anything they are told. I think the docility of its member is the only requirement to be JW, and this is as a result of solid indoctrination from childhood. Cause anyone with an inquisitive mindset would know that they are not coming correct.

Janosky:
Who are fellowshipping in our kingdom halls?

Can you fellowship with another Christain church ?
Can you listen to the preaching from another Christain church?

But then you think you can do the above to others.

mrvitalis:
But u can have Nigeria and oduduwa or nigeria and ariwa?

You were referring to the Governor. Is what I responded to

mrvitalis:
South East governors caused this killing

If they had simply declared may 30th Biafra remembrance Day and made it a public holiday weekend wont be here

When Fulanis ravaged South East they were begged to form a security outfit they refused
Till Esn was formed

Igbos would never forget the name Biafra

Igbos would never forget the Biafra war

Igbos would never stop using the Biafran flag

Igbos would never forget may 30th

It would never happen

The best things for this governors is to adopt this things and formalized them ... Simple to save lifes

You cannot have Nigeria and Biafra. Even you as a governor doing that would be your greatest mistake. It is either 1 or 0. Think it deep

OviOrunmila:
The guy being killed, must be a don, probably deal gone wrong, or killed for trying to outsmart his gang.

What do we do with this?

Walai:
The guy in that voice over was possibly raised by a single mother. Shouting Jesus on top ordinary gun shot.
I guess we need another major global war with no nuclear weapon, men are becoming weaker

Just dey talk like mumu

bizhop01:
Get what?

If others doctrine also choose to stay neutral shy away from security how will you have a STATE that you will freely go around and preach, also support with your so-called tax.

And you never tell me what stop Jehovah witness from creating their own righteous nation so that they will not only be on neutral?

God didn't brought any religion not to even talk about doctrine that was created by flesh and blood just like you, for their personal reason.

Don’t mind them, they are enjoying the benefit of others sweat and harvest and claiming neutral. The most unrealistic people I have come across

MaxInDHouse:
JWs worship together throughout the earth as promised by our God! Zephaniah 3:9

Stale, I can see you have nothing under your sleeve, same as your fellow.

Anytime I get hold of your kind, your kind has nothing to say.

You only know the doctrine you were told. You don’t have a mind of your own. It’s clear

MaxInDHouse:
Have you seen any Nigerian pastor who smokes?

Why do JW not marry from other fellowship?
They aren’t christain enough right?
Except JW no other one is capable to rule so you don’t vote Abi?

Jesus said all this right?

MaxInDHouse:
Have you seen any Nigerian pastor who smokes?

Now you’re derailing.

Why can’t JW fellowship with other JW?

MaxInDHouse:
So what exactly are you trying to say if you're against smoking?

stop trying to play smart. I am not God, even if I was against it my last write up clearly state God as final judge since it not a sin that inflict pain on thy neighbors.

The original argument is you’re justifying JW doctrine as par with the written word. In another word the Bible isn’t complete is what you mean and JW feel the need to write the complete part Abi?


Why not talk about the part where JW tells their member not to fellowship with anyone not JW. And JW don’t marry anyone else aside another JW. You’re avoiding such topic. Please quote the part of the written books where it was said.

JW crafting the incomplete part of the Bible

MaxInDHouse:
Please what exactly do you want from Jehovah's Witnesses?

Because from my own personal experience no church approves smoking and no church that doesn't preach about holiness so there's no reason singling out one as if they've become evildoers for doing almost the same thing others do!

Smoking is against many doctrine ranging from traditions, medical, conventional etiquette and even legally, you are only permitted to smoke in your house if there are no children around.

Your church doctrine is not the same thing as what is right and wrong in the eye of God.

What ever is against the will of God, what ever is against love thy neighbor and love thy Self and love of God is a sin.

But saying your church doctrines equates with the will of God and if someone else go against is then they sin is the biggest blackmail you can unleash on your neighbors. You’re also Infact trying to manipulate them.

But as it seem, Jehovah witness doctrine right is at par with the written laws and words of the Bible. I shake my head. Adding and editing the word with unwritten rules

Smoking is in my opinion against love of thyself, because it damages one’s health and body which is suppose to be the temple to God. But then if/she smokes only in the closest and does not lead his/her neighbors astray then he/she can only be judged by God. So until you start corrupting others or harming others, no one can harm you except God himself, who is the Judge of everything

Smoking isn’t same as evil against your neighbors e.g Murder, covetousness or stealing that actually is not a love for thy Neighbor. That one, you will have to be put down and Paul advice we restraint you and if possible prevent you from corrupting other brethrens

Oseone1:
Can you smoke simply because the bible do not preached against it?

Can you confidently say anyone sinned because they smoked? So don’t invent what is to be sin and not.

Jehovah witness are priding to be an authority they are not

MaxInDHouse:
Before talking about a religion please try to do some research so you won't pass a wrong impression about them.
No member of Jehovah's Witnesses except good leadership in any part of the world that's why we are preaching zealously about God's Kingdom as solution to mankind's problem!

Sounding very misguided and egocentric without any practicality. You’re preaching Jehovah Witness.

You’re not anything like Jehovah himself

Janosky:
Nah every instructions your own parents dey use their mouth tell you?
The Bible principle about birthday celebration is strict abstinence by Jehovah's servants.

Jesus never turned up at anyone's birthday celebration neither did he celebrate any.

But,did Jesus attend & participate in any wedding?
Oga,E get why.

There is No such principle about birthday, there is none, Jehovah witness invented such word.

There is no record where Jesus warned any of his disciples against celebrating birthday.

But Jehovah witness being greater than the maker themselves, deem it fit to indoctrinate and fight against it so badly. That they can alienate their members who do such.

What a passive aggressive manner of indoctrination.

Jesus also didn’t do some other things,
- he didn’t build any house
- he didn’t marry, neither does he have any children or knew any woman
- he didn’t own property
- he didn’t go to hospital
- he didn’t have any academic profession aside being a healer and miracle worker.

Jesus was focused and set apart for the mission he came to accomplish, it is as simple as it sounds. He didn’t even live up to 40 years and that was intentional. Jesus didn’t address others in a passive aggressive manner and advice people to not marry outside synagogues.

King Solomon, Paul and David were men after God heart and lived life in their own way. God didn’t forsake them. Neither did Jesus

Everything is with a purpose, stop misguiding people and enforcing laws even Jesus himself didn’t impose

Oseone1:
In 1Peter 2:21 the bible says that Christ want us to follow his footstep, so as regards birthdays celebration, whom are you going to follow? is it Christ that do not celebrate his bday or Herod & Pharoah? the choice is yours

There is no where in the Bible we are told not celebrate birthday.

No place in the Bible where it was stated that celebrating birthday means you follow king Herod or Pharoah.

Jehovah witness started those implied meaning, they manufactured it from thin air.
I know it is difficult to accept but it’s fine

MaxInDHouse:
Pick your questions one after another so you can know what your neighbour have in mind not just piling up the questions.
But for the benefit of other followers i will attend to one of your questions now!

You will not vote

I love to vote for someone i know very well and can vouch for when he gets there because i will ask him several questions personally to be sure he can solve the problem before standing as his surety.

But do i know any of these people?
NO!
So why should i vouch for someone i never knew because if i do and he failed to fulfill what he promised the curses from all those suffering will go to those that vouch for him or her.
Have you ever signed up as a surety for someone who wants to borrow money from the bank?
What if the person failed to pay up do you think his surety will be spared?
Well that's what i personally am avoiding when talking about voting for someone i don't even know!

very nonsense analogy. We had 18 aspirant but you voted none.
Perhaps if you think none of them are capable why not a Jehovah witness campaign/contest. For you sitting on the fence and forsaking your community and country is a better choice

Perhaps don’t personalize the question, I was asking why Jehovah witness don’t participate in election but it seem you’re talking just about yourself

MaxInDHouse:
True Christianity is about how God is using His Holy Spirit to gather imperfect but faithful and obedient humans in all the nations {Isaiah 2:2; Micah 4:1} these people will start paying rapt attention to what the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob said as written in the Bible {Isaiah 2:3; Micah 4:2} and the expected result of this is they will use what they found in the pages of the Bible to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop the production, buying, selling and using destructive devices, stop enrolling in the army and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3

This is the greatest miracle that will destroy all the machinations of Satan {1John 3:8} whose intention is to see the entire human race wiped out {John 10:10} but who will establish such a program among imperfect humans? That's why a perfect child needs to be born among mankind {Isaiah 9:6} this child will grow into an adult as a perfect man he will then lead imperfect humans in the way of holiness {Isaiah 35:8} the establishment of Christianity was to achieve this goal that's why Jesus is called the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} as he will counsel obedient mankind to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Zephaniah 3:9

Of course there are thousands of groups claiming Christians today but out of them all only Jehovah's Witnesses are fulfilling this prophecy with their activities globally proving that the Prince of Peace has come and they are witnesses to the fact that his teachings can unite people of all nations in love! Act 1:8

Please if you have a better explanation about what true Christianity should do among mankind don't hesitate to air your views.

Thanks and God bless you!

Why then would not give to cesaer what belongs to Caesar? You will not vote, you will not defend your community but when the benefit of voting comes in you will enjoy it, when the benefit of defense comes, you will enjoy it.

You will tell citizen not sing their own national anthems. You don’t marry outside your denomination cause you demonize others. You don’t want to hear others preach to you but you will always want to preach to others

It’s a huge mess I must say

lanzini309:
this are not true though they are based on your assumptions. Get closer to them, do your research before you say stup.d stuff about them. They are simply the best I am not one of them but I know much about them. They are near perfect..

Are you sure you know how to read at all?
Perhaps what do you mean by perfect?
Infact what do you know is called perfect?
All this youngies just type for attention

Oseone1:
The bible mentioned two people (King Herod & Pharoah) that celebrated their b\days, were they christians? NO. they even killed people on that day, Christ didnt celebrates his own, So you that is celebrating ur bday whom are u immitating? guy make u dey reason well

Very silly point. So king Herod and pharaoh now stand as the yardstick of celebrating birthdays. They celebrated birthday wasn’t the borne of contention anywhere in the Bible neither did anyone or preacher preached against it.
So why are you now the one preaching against it?