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Perfectbeing:
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Kobicove:
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i love your technical explanation. you know the physics i am asking for. Do you agree that the aim is not to stop at moon's orbit, but to over shot it to earth orbit where their space station is located before they can reenter earth. the ∆v to the moon orbit can only make them moon satellite, they need more than that to locate LEO for earth reentry. The To-Fro movement with Man and the Moon Rock Claim is what many not only me is questioning to understand. i realized that CIA can go after anyone that questions that mission. the issue is that the controversies started with top NASA employees. some say they never landed on the moon, or they lost the technology, another implied that they packed some kilogram of moon rook.

Christian36:
The amount of delta-V needed to get from the Moon to low Moon orbit is only 1.87 km/s or about 1/5 of that needed to get from Earth to LEO. That amount is easily attainable even if your ascent vehicle has a high payload fraction (i.e. only a small part of your vehicle is fuel). Other sections of an Earth-to-Moon-and-back mission require much more delta-V.

This also meant the ascent engine could be designed for simplicity and reliability, instead of ultimate performance. It used hypergolic propellants, so no ignition system was needed. It was pressure-fed, so there were no turbopumps. All you needed to do was open two valves, and the engine would run.

What also helped was the Lunar orbit rendezvous technique: the Moon ascent stage has no other job than to get two astronauts and their cargo to Moon orbit, so it can be small and light. The above played out in landing Armstrong on the moon.

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truthCoder:
You are done here.

I just went through your entire history on Nairaland and it is very unfortunate that i crawled in the very bottom to engage with you.

You are as shallow as a river, one atom deep.

I tried to educate you on the difference between Elon's objective (which is reusability) and NASA's. The fact that you cannot learn this shows how permanent your brain status is.

Continue to rent out your projectors and try to eke a living from registering business names. You see this thing called knowledge, it is not for you.

As regards that your blog and 'website', let me assure you that it perfectly represents you.

Your old windows Vista/7 laptop with bad battery (yeah, i know) should have been a source of knowledge but i wonder if the virus on it has somehow affected. your brain.

Look at my moniker and remember it. The next time you see it on a thread......RUN!!!

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truthCoder:
Then you are a fool.

Bros you have tried.
Your explanation removed every physics I should know about the landing and take off. It actually looks like UFO flying succer. Please from that craft you are seeing what type of fuel are they using. See how the pride of United States of America is causing sleepless night to two curious Nigerians just because they want to intimidate Russia. If this is so simple why can't Elon musk Spacex and NASA replicate this, why should they wait till 2024. Please don't bother replying me, even the picture increased my doubts and exposed USA desperation. Let me add this. The only way I can believe this is to say an alien took them with his own craft to moon. So that I can place them where UFO stories belong.

truthCoder:
Let me explain to you slowly using Apollo 11.

When they got to the moon, two crafts were attached. They were named Columbia and Eagle.

There were three astronauts...Collins (who stayed in Columbia) while Armstrong and Aldrin (who transferred into Eagle) detached from Columbia and landed. Collins continued to orbit in Columbia.

When they were done on the moon, Eagle ascended, joined Columbia for both astronauts to board and Eagle was discarded. Columbia returned to earth.

First picture is Columbia photographed from Eagle.
Second picture is Eagle photographed from Columbia
Third picture is a clearer view of Eagle in lunar orbit
Final picture is Columbia after touchdown on earth

So this is the picture you believed that propelled the astronaut out of moon. Ok no problem. I only believed the videos of propulsion from earth. I was trained by superiors not to believe that your picture. They Should save Elon musk the energy and recreate it. Bye.

truthCoder:
You said there was no means of propulsion. We told you rockets. If you agree rockets can propel, then why argue that it was impossible?

Oh you now agree that if the trip to moon were single-use equipment, how could the astronaut reuse the craft/ equipment from moon back to space and earth. Dull brain. i know your type. Shallow minded being.

truthCoder:
I assumed there was some brain matter in your weathered skull. Alas, the last few cells have turned faecal.

I asked you to summarise the constraints you think would have made the landing impossible in the 60s and was specific that rants were extra weight. What did you do? 100% rant and not a single point. You would have scored better if you had simply ignored.

List the points and i would educate you.

You would be difficult in real life. Proud, full of himself with your Chinese shirts and 'Lude' polished shoes, looking down on your fellow face-me-i-hit-you owerri co-tenants as you try to roll smarter than a worn dice. You see a television as an achievement. Hope you did not engrave your name on the TV box you inherited?

You call me a kid. It is evident that you go around the village looking for who would greet you with 'good afternoon brother'.

You ramble on to Elon. If you were not so dumb, you would know that Elon is investing on reusable space crafts. The key here is reusable. Prior trips were mainly single-use equipment. Maybe we should look for a FUTO lecturer to explain reusability to you?

You know nothing.

This fool. In the latest things I added after the 1960s did you see Rocket launch. Which Nigeria can even do. Ignoramus, it depends on what you are launching and how you intend to use and communicate with it. That matters.
Try harder, you are only proving how dumb you are.

truthCoder:
What is this otondo saying?

You went to dig out one of your handouts and started copying?

You can bamboozle your room mates but when you come online, remember that every cadre of intelligence is represented here.

Didirin does not know that rocket science was developed during the 40s.

Na me go school you. You this FUTO SUB Zobo seller.

What did you say about the video op posted where one of the astronaut said they destroyed or lost the technology. How? So the brains of those that did it were cut off. See I love science, technology and exploration. You see the procedures they are taking concerning mars with the updates. These knowledge are needed in the academic field. Universities should be updated with their results. So when you keep the academics in the dark about your achievement no body will believe you. NASA should make the moon take off videos public. How is the relaunch setup and the propulsion machanism. The knowledge of the atomic bomb is in public. I have seen patents of defense missile systems. I am not alone in disputing that claim. Go online and you will read professors, professionals and engineers all over the world disputing it with sound technical logic. I can also argue this way just like millions of enthusiasts if you claim that you have created a perpetual motion machine that does not use fuel which can drive an alternator to generate electricity. There are a lot of fake videos online. But professors all over the world said it is impossible. So please it is not my fault, some claims can't displace the kind of training I have received. Politics influenced that claim and we understand.

Christian36:
All this your grammar don't change the fact that man has landed on the moon and the evidence is there, if you think it is not true then bring out evidence to counter the claim. I don't know why people will just sit on the fence and start to castigate the progress of others. Without thesame people you try to castigate, how will you have known the little you know now. Even before the landing on the moon, the major project at hand then was to travel to the Mars of which presently a robot has successfully landed on the Mars, am sure one day someone else will say such project never existed.

You are a kid. I don't think you read all my post. Or maybe you do not understand anything. By integrating all the available advanced technologies of today Elon musk is planning of a reusable rocket/Spaceship combo that can take man to moon and back. Remember his fit in electrical power tech. That is why NASA is partnering with him to see if his 2024 launch date is feasible. So I believe it is possible now not in 1960's. Read all my posts and quotes. Research what I just wrote before you start your argument. Counter my points without insults. You said the landed astronaut can easily launch out of moon with his used craft because it is just 59 miles to space. That is when I realized that you are a kid that think they use helicopter to moon. And I don't think you have television to watch space programs and craft launching. So keep off my mention.

truthCoder:
What exactly have you said with so much words?

It is only people who are shallow in knowledge that claim things are not possible.

I am ready to help you. List out (no long epistles) the reasons why you believe there was no moon landing and i would provide answers to them for you.

I understand your point. There are technologies that started very early; starting with civil/structural/metallurgy, mechanical, chemicals(which includes the atomic bomb), these were so physical to experiment with and create results (invention). They put so much effort to develop these more physical technologies, which focused on designs and Reactions. A lot of physical parameters were considered to formulate equations and designs: complex- structures, Auto Engines, Chemicals/Radioactive etc. Planetary researchers then started building Telescopes and formulated equations. when electrical started it took several stages of development, from observing electrostatic discharges to creating electric cells then electrical power evolved to developing components, electronics of tubes and discharge components improved to semiconductors ( solid state: discrete- integrated- and then micro processors. Even till today, most changes are seen in electrical/ electronics/ materials. The eras of shortwave transmission, telegram, telex, fax, etc). It was when electronics developed to an advanced stage to control mechanical systems that Robotics/ Mechtronics/ Automations/ Remote Sensing and control came into full stage( plus the improvement in solid fuel/cells) We are now at the stage to start thinking of how to get to Moon and back by integrating all available advanced technologies. That is what Elon musk is doing. What is available now wasn't then in 1960's apart from fake videos inspired by James Bond.

Christian36:
You underestimated USA in this past years you are talking about but you forgot that the were already advance in technology then, that is why they were able to create atomic bomb that took the whole world by surprise including Hitler that was thinking he can conquer the whole world. USA was already ahead of other countries in technology then.

We were making reference to 1960's technology. Elon is creating a reusable Rocket/Spaceship combo, with his advanced electric powering system it will be possible.

Christian36:
Again if not because of the money involved, traveling to the moon is not as hard as the project Elon Mon is planning to embark on ( traveling to Mars). You guys made it to look as if the mission is impossible.

What this means is that: if all the craft weight and astronaut is say 300kg on earth. In moon the weight would be 50kg. The astronaut have to relaunch this weight from moon back to space before heading to earth. Watch how they launch space crafts out of earth.

Christian36:
The acceleration due to gravity of the moon is (1/6)th times that of the earth so therefor, taking off from the moon will not be as hard as that of the earth.

It is Moons Atmosphere relative to its size, composition, gravity and other constants associated with just moon. Do not make up your own comparison to earth, because the landing and taking off we are talking about happens in the moon. what ever parameters and constants you want to use in your calculation to take off from moon must be relative to moon. Before leaving earth station all the calculations to break away from earth's gravity to space are relative to earth.
NASA admitted that moon has atmosphere, the comparison to that of earth makes no meaning if you are the astronaut in Moon trying to take off.

You are a clown. You only know about voice communication. And that is what you posted. Tell me more about the craft system remote/feedback communication to earth. You think the astronaut voice is all that is needed.
If you have undergone any post graduate work experience and training you can't be reasoning like this.
You can continue your insult, that shows your level.

truthCoder:
How would you say atmosphere is atmosphere? It is like saying transportation is transportation in comparing donkeys and airplanes.

You think you know but you dont.

You, a graduate of engineering from FUTO claim that there was no way to communicate from the moon. When your ignorance was painted in colors, you backtracked.

Physicists, Astronomers, Astronauts, brilliant minds etc all confirm that the moon landing was done. But you want us to listen to you, a polytechnic drop out who only scrambled to get admission to FUTO to study metallurgy at the BSc level and who has never left Owerri but sells business registration.

You want us all to discard scientific works done by Phd geeks from Harvard, Yale, Cambridge, MIT and listen to your dumb theories?

You cannot even rebuild a car engine if your life depended on it and you want us to believe there is no propulsion system that can lift a lunar module housing only two men to a height of 69 miles above the moon surface.

We have an international space station in orbit which is continuously crewed by astronauts from all over the world but we should discount all the years in space research because you, a man who doesn't even know how basic radios work says it is a hoax?

I have a question for you. Who is your hemp dealer?

A block head is one that refused to read NASA report but prefer to quote unknown literature. If you are finding it difficult to read. Just Google "Moon Atmosphere'. It will first display NASA report. Moon's atmospheric composition is almost proportional to its size.

Alusiizizi:
Ok, this is my final response to your posts, no use trying to put something through a block-head. Deuterium(A.K.A. "heavy hydrogen" ) discovered as hydrates in lunar rocks does not constitute an atmosphere. Go and actually read informative literature for once in your existence, try to understand what constitutes a hydrate. Deuterium was interesting because it is the primary fuel used in still progressing nuclear fusion reactors. There was even once speculation that the moon could house a large under-surface ocean at some point in time, yet more source for this deuterium. What was still true then and is still true now is that the moon DOES NOT CARRY ANY APPRECIABLE ATMOSPHERE! I think that I've gone as far as I am will to on this silly discourse. If you want to learn anything about the moon and what is/isn't true then you are going to have to search/discern the information out there on your own. Good Luck!

"Appreciable Atmosphere" Kai how do we measure the "Appreciability", with what parameter ?, mr know all. Atmosphere is atmosphere.

i am not sure you read the NASA site i posted. Hydrogen, and other Rare gases were found in moon atmosphere, sodium and potassium constitute the dust. you agreed that a relaunch would be exactly the way it left earth. even if there is fuel available, have you taken your time to watch equipment assembly of space craft launching out of earth. guy i am tired to explain this things. Go to NASA website and read their submission on LADEE project of 2013 where a Robot was used. Relaunch equipments are not in moon. you can't just fall out of moon. i don't know your profession. when engineers consider atmosphere in planetary exploration, we are considering the effect it will have on the craft outer layer while cruising into a planetary body at high speed. we call it ablative effect. Challenger reentry from space some time ago got burst due to such. Habitation is far from what i meant.

Alusiizizi:
You know, my initial disposition was to ignore this your reply full of such ignorance, not to mention unabashed condescension but as I have a bit of time to spare, I proceed despite my inclinations.



The "science" of overcoming the moons gravity to relaunch a landed craft is precisely the same kind of science used to launch from the earth, not one bit of change. Even the amount of fuel to carry to the moon in order to successfully execute a re-launch was a non-issue, the surface gravity of the moon(which was calculated to be one-sixth the surface gravity of the earth based on the inferred mass of the moon) was already known long before the trip to the moon using this science that you refer to. Oh, and by the way, those "old planes used in ww2" were propeller based planes(which has nothing whatsoever to do with this subject). The Germans, late into the war introduced jet-based airplanes in a bid to gain air superiority and historically, this development was of crucial importance to the eventual establishment of future space aspirations because it moved rocket science from the domain of enthusiasts and pranksters(i.e. Goodwin Goddard and co.) to one of gainful purpose and enterprise such that governments were ready to invest billions of dollars to progress.



I'm not sure what your point is here. The moon definitely lacks any "habitable" atmosphere(that is an atmosphere dense enough to sustain any purposeful activity) but if you are insisting on a strict definition, then sure, the moon will have an(albeit very thin) atmosphere. The proximity of the moon to the earth alone would imply that a very tiny part of the earths atmosphere will, after a long while, be captured by the moon.



NASA was not battlng to understand anything. The moon had no atmosphere(or a very thin) when they got there in 1961 and still has no atmosphere till this day. The only confusion in this matter is yours and the deception that your dubious reference was designed to effect.

you cannot read or make your own research, but you replied some where as a Futo Graduate. Moon has Atmosphere. Google the 2013 NASA LADEE project when their doubt was cleared. how can NASA send man to Moon in 1960's only to start sending robots for lunar atmospheric and Dust experimentation and exploration of the Moon in 2013

larryUG:
Are you implying that the moon has atmosphere? What will cause the ablative defect upon approaching the moon?

Please go back to read my updates. Yes re-entry from space to earth does not require much technology and equipment. we are talking about taking off from moon. Moon is not space, it is a body like earth with gravity, you have to relaunch the craft that has already spent it's fuel to orbit and could have body defects while cruising to moon surface. so a moon station is needed.
As at 2013 NASA is still struggling to understand moon atmosphere using LADEE robot. Which ethics allows such cart before horse exploration procedure.

Christian36:
Can you list one benefit of setting up a space station on the moon? The control and monitoring unit you are talking about is what artificial satellites around the earth are doing, why going to waste such huge amount of money on the moon when the satellites around the earth can do same work.
Again, you don't need all the technology and equipment when coming to earth because the gravitational force of attraction of the earth is so strong to the point of dragging any object that comes closer towards it. Hope you know that the force of attraction between the earth and the moon enables the moon to revolve round the earth and that of the earth is more pronance. You just have to get to a certain level above the moon then you feel the attraction of the earth, remember that it took Armstrong and his fellow 3days to get to the moon. It is easy to come back to the earth than to leave the earth.

Benefits: To study gas and Material composition and their prospective uses. a GreenHouse can be made to serve as moon Lab. Transformation processes can be studied. and so many

We are not talking about just launching rockets, submarines or those old planes used in ww2. The science of overcoming moon gravity to relaunch a landed craft that has spent it's initial fuel to orbit is the issue. Academic class need the physics on how the escape velocity was attend.
I will again add to my initial post.
Go to https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LADEE/news and read about Apollo 17 that happened more than a decade after the manned moon landing claim of 1961. NASA 2013 LADEE project with a robot proved that moon has atmosphere which they admitted was against their assumption.
How can NASA send a man to moon in 1961 and kept battling to understand the moon atmosphere between 1972 (Apollo 17 and 2013. Such practice goes against every known scientific experimentation/exploration procedure. Under study the Mars exploration procedure.

Alusiizizi:
I stopped reading your nonsense right after the bolded snippet above. You are not " someone vast in electronics and it's developmental generations", but just another idi0t who believes that he knows something.

Rocket technology was the principal essential technology needed to get to the moon, a technology which was well advanced by the Germans during WW2 and further perfected by Werner Von-Braun to sophistication sufficient enough to carry payload to the moon. Another important knowledge needed was Newtonian physics(I don't need to get into this here, unless you know something that no-one else on the planet is aware of). Outside of these essentials, the only challenge that remains is life-support, which was well within 1960's capabilities(I mean submarines that carried people in deep under-sea journeys was about 100 years old at that time already).

We are not talking about just launching rockets, submarines or those old planes used in ww2. The science of overcoming moon gravity to relaunch a landed craft that has spent it's initial fuel to orbit is the issue. Academic class need the physics class on how the escape velocity was attend.
I will again add to my initial post.
Go to https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LADEE/news and read about Apollo 17 that happened more than a decade after the manned moon landing claim of 1961. NASA 2013 LADEE project with a robot proved that moon has atmosphere which they admitted was against their assumption.
How can NASA send a man to moon in 1961 and kept battling to understand the moon atmosphere between 1972 (Apollo 17 and 2013. Such practice goes against every known scientific experimentation/exploration procedure. Under study the Mass exploration procedure.

Alusiizizi:
I stopped reading your nonsense right after the bolded snippet above. You are not " someone vast in electronics and it's developmental generations", but just another idi0t who believes that he knows something.

Rocket technology was the principal essential technology needed to get to the moon, a technology which was well advanced by the Germans during WW2 and further perfected by Werner Von-Braun to sophistication sufficient enough to carry payload to the moon. Another important knowledge needed was Newtonian physics(I don't need to get into this here, unless you know something that no-one else on the planet is aware of). Outside of these essentials, the only challenge that remains is life-support, which was well within 1960's capabilities(I mean submarines that carried people in deep under-sea journeys was about 100 years old at that time already).