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Paraman:
We all know where the people who are not happy are from

Where is deji adeyanju from

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Jennyclay

I'm not quite getting the entire point.

We all know Adam was a prophet.
We know Jesus left his divinity to save man.

You sounded as if there was some new revelation, I don't see it

EreluRoz:
So how do we now practically worship if we don't go to church?

The first step is to obey Jesus in throwing away the idea of thus thing called a 'place' of worship. 'Where' do we worship God.

True worship has no place or venue necessity.


John 4:20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. 21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and truth


From the mouth of Jesus Christ himself

Denominations are not the church.
Church going is not the faith of Jesus Christ

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MindHacker9009:
Human problems are that of deception. So you need to show what you know as sins and how Christianity has solved the problem of those sins. Then I will show you how God has use True Judaism to solve the problem of sins.

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MindHacker9009:
You are the one stammering and stuttering and saying nothing. You were the one that mentioned about the solution for the problems of sin, and the right thing for you to do is to show how Christianity has solved the problems of sin. Then I can show you how God has used True Judaism to solve the problems of sin.

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You came into the thread brandishing Judaism as a superior faith.

I told you I was open to agreeing with your claims, but in order to take an intelligent position I needed to hear Judaisms solution for the most basic of human problems.

Since then, you no gree talk anything again oo
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MaxInDHouse:
You just rushed in to comment you didn't even care to read what you quoted.

Oyá what is the name of your church that's practicing what Jesus taught?

Oga what was your topic for which you invited responses?

Did I or did I not respond in line with your topic?

Did you not at that time appreciate me for my contributions

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MindHacker9009:
You are trying to avoid a very important question I asked you. Ok let me help you to open your mind. Just believing that the blood of Jesus Christ on the cross has solved the problems of sin for you is a BIG SIN and an ABOMINATION before The GOD of True Judaism, because The GOD of True Judaism does not accept human sacrifice which was practiced in the New Testament when your Jesus Christ offered himself as a human sacrifice on the cross.

I will shock you when it's my turn to talk about the solution for sin in Christianity.

But for now, I asked you a simple and straightforward question, and for almost 48 hours now you've been unable to even attempt answering.


How then can I believe your Judaism?

The basic human problem is sin.

What is the solution for sin in your religion...and you're stammering and stuttering and saying nothing...

Smh

MaxInDHouse:
Four days ago and 12 commentators have joined in the discussion but i can only mention 3 who has spoken about their church as the one practicing what Jesus taught.

1 PulsingPurple
2 hslbroker2
3 Paulink
4 oteneaaron
5 Fididiguy
6 Straybullet
7 Emusan
8 achorladey
9 Aemmyjah*
10 bobestman
11 Janosky*
12 johnw47

PulsingPurple: Pastor, Prophet, Dr TB Joshua of Synagogue Church Of All Nations
Aemmyjah and Janosky: Jehovah's Witnesses Organization.

Perhaps others are still on their way as the 9 other commentators have been silent about the two questions!

You lie shamelessly

Did I or did I not answer your questions only for you to be scared of engaging me

Did you or did you not thank me for my contributions?

Na dis one una dey call Jehovah's Witnesses elder??

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MaxInDHouse:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

The one and only problem of mankind is what Adam and Eve started in the garden of Eden:

POLITICS

This is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil meaning it's not in man's capacity to set standards for his fellow man because man can't direct his own step {Jeremiah 10:23} but when man insisted on doing so the result was disastrous {Ecclesiastes 8:9} because due to his stupidity nepotism won't allow him to do the right thing! Ecclesiastes 4:1

God wanted to save mankind from this curse that's why He established pure worship using a nation (Israel) as an example so that through that nation He will present a perfect human who can rule successfully following His direction without any blunders.

When Jesus walked the earth he formed one GROUP and taught them what they need to know about the evil in politics but Satan the father of politics knew that with Jesus' disciples the secret will be revealed to all people globally immediately Satan began attacking the group! John 15:19

So according to Jesus the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} his true followers will have LOVE among themselves {John 13:34-35} therefore when politics is affecting all other groups and organizations making them to raise weapons against one another {Revelations 6:3-4} Jesus' disciples will be working round the clock to save their own members and enlighten others that there is a mighty spirit evil being behind politics.

But instead of this religionists to pay attention to what Jesus' disciples are saying they will hate them! Matthew 24:9

According to two prophets of God this is what the only true religion will achieve in our time:

In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah Will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it will be raised up above the hills, And to it all the nations will stream. And many peoples will go and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, To the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths.” For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

The above has been fulfilled by Jehovah's Witnesses today!

Ecclesiastes 3:14 I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: [/b]nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it[b]: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.


The Jehovah's Witnesses group has added to their work and subtracted from it many times.

They don't qualify to be a work of God himself.

From changing dates of expected apocalyptic events, to altering recommendations for their members like the recent permission to grow beards, and communicate with defellowshiped people.

Whatever God does abides forever. In the form God did it. With no changes permitted because God himself is immutable.

The changes in Jehovah's Witnesses teachings prove they are not a work done by God, but just one of the many man made denominations on earth.


Denominations are not of God, the early origins of denominations in the acts of the apostles was a work of man not of God.


The true church from the days of the apostles to date has been under the direct control of Jesus Christ without any human intermediaries.

Cc Strafudeen

Janosky:
John 9:4 Jesus Christ referenced himself & the disciples as "WE".
"WE" can not be a one man show.
The term "WE" is an assembly, Congregation, Church in John 9:4 meeting together, working together in harmony to fulfill the same goal, objectives etc.
Oga, Jesus Christ & the disciples were the first Ecclesia, which gave birth to other Eccklesias.

For this reason, Paul the apostle could address the Hebrew Eccklesia as having "leaders" that the brethren should submit themselves to guidance and direction.
Hebrews 13:7,17.

In many Bibles, in Acts chapter 15, the heading says:
" The Council in Jerusalem".
(Is FIFA Council an Organization? Oga, learn something.)
The Ecclesia (Church) founded by Christ Jesus is an Organization, administered by leaders serving the brethren (especially in Acts chapter 2:41-48. Hebrews 13:7,17. E get why )

Shalom.

Ok.

So in the context of my presentation, the apostles were individual parts of a unit, and not a group in the everyday sense of the word.

While group may seem accurate semantically, it doesn't accurately describe their relationship.

The apostles were individual members of a heavenly body, so as they were , they were not sufficient to be called the group.

The ekklesia is a heavenly organism, individual Christians are elected to be part of that organism, the organism is a unit, and the individuals are subunits of the unit.

This isbwhy jesusbtold them there are other sheep I have, and I will bring them and there shall be one flock.

The christ is a unit, the body of christ comprises of the components of that unit.

Until the unit is complete youncant talk about a group , all you have a individual parts.

Look at the human body, pick an eye, and a leg and a tooth, do you say you have a body? NO.

The bodynhas to be complete first and even then you can't say group, you'd rather say body.

The apostles didn't constitute the entire body of christ, only part of it. So it doesn't make sense to talk of them as if they were complete group or something...

Group is not accurate in describing Church.


1 Corinthians 12:12
[12]For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.


The church is a body, and believers are members of that one body.

No other group makes sense except the one body.

Just like a tooth, a hand and an eye together don't make sense as a group

newbornmacho:
I maintain that if what we're seeing as church is what Jesus had in mind,...let me just keep quiet

Jesus never started this mess

Strafudeen:
I want to know which church is the correct one..or you mean none of them is?

None

Janosky:
People also ask
What does the word ekklesia mean in the Bible?
Ecclesia (or Ekklesia) in Christian theology means both: a particular body of faithful people, and the whole body of the faithful.
Ecclesia (Church) - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
simple.m.wikipedia.org › wiki › Ecclesia..



Oga, please go & study your Bible very well and understand it .


As you can see, your answer is not correct.

Nothing else to add.

Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. Hope you know?

Now which language is ekklesia? Is it English?

Answer let me know your level in these things

Janosky:
Are the 12 apostles (converted by Jesus) a Group?

No they're not, in the context of this discussion

Janosky:
Is "his Church" a group?

Is "his church" an Organization?

No to both questions.

His church rather is an organism.

MindHacker9009:
You were the one that brought up how to solve the problems of sin, so you need to start by showing how Christianity has solve the problems of sin, then I can respond to your question on how Judaism solves the problem of sin.

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You came with an advertisement of Judaism in a Christian thread , and you're now scared of showing cause why Judaism is to be preferred.

Frankly I'm surprised.

Jews don't shy away from discussing their faith.

Be a man

Defend your faith

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MaxInDHouse:
Don't worry jàre nah so many were disappointed in Jesus {John 6:66} so take heart you're not our type ours are happy to hear that there is no religion worshiping our God apart from us!

You have the temerity to invoke Jesus

If you're an example of Jehovah's Witnesses, then it's a shame

PulsingPurple:
The guy you want to engage has no level of integrity

I'm just getting to know him ...and I'm disappointed

MaxInDHouse are you now answering questions?

I'm disappointed but not surprised.
Zero Integrity

You refused to debate with me saying you were just inviting comments , now you're answering questions.

Is it because of the bloody nose I gave you in my thread??

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I can only say I'm disappointed that a so called elder cannot stand his ground.

Listen, I will disassemble your jehovahs witnesses doctrine ...everyone of them,...maybe you know and thats why youre running

MindHacker9009:
Let's start by you showing how the New Testament Jesus has solved the problem of sin?

God gave the Ten Commandments and some other teachings in True Judaism that solves the problem of sin, this I will go into later.

It's not fair to not answer my question and then ask me to answer yours.

I want a decent conversation.

I will answer every question you ask me about Christianity under the sun.

I mean everyone .

Now answer my question first, and don't make it look like Judaism has no solution for sin

MindHacker9009:
It was the pagan Roman empire that invented a pagan god that mated with Mary another man's wife to produce himself and then offer himself on the cross as a sacrifice to himself. These were the invented story of the pagan Roman empire and was forced on you through conquest and brainwashing.

The God of Judaism is the only True God and He does not make people to follow Him through conquest and brainwashing, but two pagan empires that Judaism was not forced on were so fascinated by Judaism that they decided to invent their own pagan version of Judaism that uses conquest and brainwashing to convert gullible people.

True Judaism which includes the Ten Commandments is the only true religion of God.

The 10 Commandments
You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall not make idols.
You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Honor your father and your mother.
You shall not murder.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
You shall not covet.

Thanks for your contribution.

I disagree with you, but I'm willing to be convinced.

Tell me how does Judaism solve the problem of sin. How does man be free from the effects, the presence and the consequences of sin.
Awaiting your response

MaxInDHouse:
I think RELIGION is not in your dictionary so it will be good if you allow RELIGIONISTS do this.

However thanks for your contribution.

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This guy now has a morbid fear of arguments

Talk about being humbled

A jehovahs witnesses passing on an opportunity to preach his faith

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Hear me people

Denominations are not the church

They are babylon

The church of Jesus is spiritual and not an earthly organisation

Strafudeen:


This one pass my power bros

First of all, have you given your life to christ? That's the paramount question

Strafudeen:
Which one is.the correct one

NONE

Every denomination you see today is not the church.
God didn't start geese group's

His children have been in a separate arrangement for the past 2000 years

newbornmacho:
This is a very difficult thing to do bro...

[/b]Plus how am I sure you're correct with this[b]
Are you not shortchanging yourself?

Do your research