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MaxInDHouse:
Your interest is politics not faith so you can't speak what is in tune with faith that's what makes you so FOOLISH!

Wow....the insults are coming out of jehovahs witnesses
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By their fruits....


Repent bro

MaxInDHouse:
According to the scriptures a disciple of who?

And when it became day, he (Jesus) called his disciples to him and chose from among them 12, whom he also named apostles: Simon, whom he also named Peter, Andrew his brother, James, John, Philip, Bar·tholʹo·mew, Matthew, Thomas, James the son of Al·phaeʹus, Simon who is called “the zealous one,” Judas the son of James, and Judas Is·carʹi·ot, who turned traitor. Luke 6:13-16

You can run but you can't hide!

So you can see, his being a disciple didn't save him from perdition...

Ask God for the difference 😄

MaxInDHouse:
He only hide under another moniker he surely is one of those atheists disguising!

All liars shall go to hell

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Aemmyjah:
Satan means resister
So Peter was acting as a satan causing a stumbling block to Jesus as his advice could be a resistance to Jesus will which was to die for us. It was momentary

A woman can call her husband devil
She could call him angel
All these have their own meaning cos it is reflected on what they did or doing. That does not mean they have dual personality.

Peter gave in to that but Jesus lovingly corrected him and Peter accepted... Satan entered Judas and he proceeded to betray Jesus

So rest

Decide the one you believe ...

Satan is a resister...Peter was resisting...

Satan entered judas


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Aemmyjah:
If you even understand that verse
Flesh - our sinful fleshly inclination
Spirit - God's spirit

These 2 cannot meet
We are naturally sinful and need God's spirit to help us do God's will... Holy spirit will not remove our sinful nature

So rest
You've still not answered how one can have 2 personality

Ok you sound serious.

The human organism is a potential host for different influences.

These influences when they control the organism create a PERSONALITY

They that are led of the spirit of God are the sons of God.

Only when a person is under the leading of the spirit of God is sonship of God present.

When they are not under the leading of the spirit of God they are not in a context of sonship.

So if a man prophesies accurately today because of the leading of God's spirit for instance, it doesn't make him a prophet that can prophesy always.

This applies to the manifestation of other graces.

The matter of sonship clearly separates the status of the human being, from when they are devoid of God's leading.

This is why in the true church, there is no sin or flesh, because true assembly only occurs between sons, ie between humans who are at that material time under the leading of God.

When they are not under a divine leading, they are not the sons of God, they are a different person.

MaxInDHouse:
what is the meaning of DISCIPLES if not a group of worshipers?

Of course even aristotle , socrates, satan all have disciples.

Judas was a disciple
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It's not about being called a disciple, ask God to show you the difference

MaxInDHouse:
[/b]Foolish pagan![b]

If they don't associate with others in their neighbourhood how will they do the work Jesus assigned to us?

Guy if i meet a JW anywhere today the only way we can recognize ourselves is after we speak so through faith we realize we belong to the same house of faith not by the way we dress or religious titles that's what worship in spirit means not that they won't meet together at all!

Tired so soon,?

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MaxInDHouse:
So since Judas failed there's no need for brothers to meet together shey?

Well after Judas' death true Christians still meet together! Act 1:15-17

Your understanding is defective.

Jesus never started a group

MaxInDHouse:
So because there is false religion there is no longer true religion?

Guy you can run but you can't hide, there's no faith in you if you're not ASSOCIATING with fellow believers to do the work Jesus assigned to his group!

Your denomination like all others belong to babylon, and are the synagogue of satan.

I've not even started talking about babylon yet oo

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MaxInDHouse:
Now you're talking, this is what you supposed to ask since.

Worshiping God in spirit doesn't mean they will not see one another that's not what the first century Christians did rather it means we walk by faith not sight {2Corinthians 5:7} [/b][b][/b]none of Jehovah's Witnesses on this forum has seen me face to face yet we can see each other in the spirit through the same line of thought [b][/b[b]]that we belong to the same house of faith! John 17:20-23 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10 and Ephesians 4:3

We must associate together if we live in the same community because that's



Hahahawhere we will meet to plan how to go out in TWOS {Luke 10:1} to preach and teach just as Jesus commanded us {Matthew 28:19-20} moreover it's by meeting together in person that we can recognize baptized ones as members of the house of faith!

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So this one is possible, finally your brain has started reformatting but you still have a looooong way to go.


But if you want to learn you can kearn

MaxInDHouse:
Of course that's why the first century Christians met in flesh seeing one another and recognizing one another using names.

You can run but there's no hiding place for unbelievers like you.

You must assemble with fellow believers like the first century Jewish disciples of Christ did!

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It's not in the assembling of FLESH

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.



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Some were gathering until Jesus came in revelation and called them SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN!!!!!!

MaxInDHouse:
So Jesus was talking to Peter's flesh yet it's this same flesh that people saw preaching at Pentecost, why not his spirit instead of flesh that's visible and associating with fellow believers?

Ọmọ you have no excuse if you're not meeting together with any organized group you're not a Christian!

You need more studies 😄

Judas also preached 😄 🤣 😂
It's not in the preaching


Ask God to show you the difference haha 😄 😆 😅 😂

MaxInDHouse:
So imperfection disqualifies the first century Jewish disciples of Christ from being children of God?

Guy you're chatting with the members of the one and only true Christian organization so we will show you that you're not part of the family of faith.

For your information the four gospel accounts is where we read about Jesus' life and ministry but since we are imperfect humans none of us can be perfect like Jesus to do God's will that's why God inspired the writers to pen down the ACT OF APOSTLES these are imperfect humans that we can imitate their faith! Hebrews 13:7

So if you don't belong to any organized group where some will take the lead you're deceiving yourself!

Nonsense 😄 🤣 😂 😆

Flesh meeting flesh....how can they worship God in spirit?? 😄 🤣 😂 😆

Aemmyjah:
Satan is a person
Peter is a person
Sin or imperfection is not a person

So rest

Hahaha

English is your friend...what is personalization??


Galatians 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.



Oga resssssssssstttttt

Aemmyjah:
Satan is a person
Peter is a person
Sin or imperfection is not a person

So rest

Hahaha

English is your friend...what is personalization??

MaxInDHouse:
So according to your interpretation Peter and his fellow disciples meet in the flesh in order to recognize themselves the don't believe in Christ!

Every meeting in the flesh is not of God.

Worship of God must be in spirit and in truth.

Oga....go and study your Bible 😄

MaxInDHouse:
But turning his back, he said to Peter: “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me, because you think, not God’s thoughts, but those of men.” Matthew 16:23

So Peter is not Christ's own!

Your lack of understanding is doing you in

The flesh is not of God. The flesh of Peter can never be of God.

Go and study your Bible oga

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Aemmyjah:
So Peter had 2 personalities?
Like Kobojunkie
You're very confused

Try and be quoting bible small nah...abi you be pagan? 😄

Romans 7:17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.




Should I quote more scriptures of the dual personalities in man?

MaxInDHouse:
Biblical doctrine bawo?

If they both believe in the same leader won't there be a time they must meet together to deliberate on their leaders plans? Hebrews 10:24-25

Please don't insult them because they want to dodge claiming it's all insult!

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That which is born of the flesh is flesh....Jesus

The flesh profiteth nothing...Jesus


That which is born of the spirit is spirit...

The wind blows where it listen...so is every one born ofnthe spirit...Jesus



Bros....are you sure you believe Jesus Christ?

How can two of you flesh and body humans meeting become relevant, when the flesh profits nothing?


You go explain tire ooo

MaxInDHouse:
That is teaching!

Jesus said his father spoke through Peter and few minutes later the same Jesus said Satan spoke through the same Peter.

Lesson learned!

All imperfect humans could be used by both God's holy spirit and evil spirit so we have to be watchful of our utterances. Psalms 19:14

That no human knew God's Son after Jesus has taught them is unscriptural the only way to know the truth is learning directly from Jesus and that's what Peter with his friends did for years leaving their families behind.


What you should have asked is the meaning of Jesus' statement.


It simply means no human can know the truth unless God draws the person to Jesus {John 6:44} and he will teach the person after accepting Jesus' teachings there is no doubt that such a person knew God's Son.

So stop spewing gibberish!

You're the one spewing gibberish promax.

You are clearly not paying attention as you read.

Jesus spoke directly to 2 personalities, first he spoke to Peter addressing him ...you are Peter and I day unto you.

Then he addressed satan , a personality, ...get thee behind me satan.

Jesus cannot call his own satan.


Clearly there was a discernment of personalities going on.

This is crucial in understanding that you cannot take an individual as a monolithic representation of say salvation.

You cannot take the Peter you see as a saved person and then absorb everything you see them do.

The real saved Peter, son of God, can be manifest momentarily and then not manifest in a moment.

This is why you cannot know the son, the father alone by energising a momentary manifestation of sonship gives you the knowledge of an extant sonship relationship .

Listen that which is born of the flesh is flesh.

The christisn man you see was born ofnthe flesh and is flesh till death.

The spirit is what is born of the spirit.

The spirit is manifest as the wind blowers, you cannot predict him.

So your Christian fellow you see is not the spiritual man that is born of the spirit.

It is the spirit within that isnborn of spirit.

What you see is born of flesh and is flesh.


That precludes your ability to know the son.

But the father by his revelation ministry , can flare up the spirit of sonship in a context that you can relate with.

What you relate with is the spirit of sonship as in Romans 8.

Yet you cannot localise the spirit of sonship to a particular individual because God can use even a donkey to speak.

So you are advised by Paul to judge nothing until the time of the end...then we shall know even as we are known.

Your pastor needs to tell us what he has been teaching you...

Sack the national security adviser NOW!!!

nuhu ribadu has to clearly show where his loyalties lie.

To the federal government or his fulani brothers

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus confirmed that God revealed him to Peter! Matthew 16:17

So Peter was confused due to anxiety just as he denied Jesus three times and also denied his fellow believers in Paul's presence that's imperfect!

So simply because Peter was anxious Jesus said to him get thee behind me satsn in matthew 16

Michael547:
Oga you are confused.

When you guys have no answers you accuse people of being confused 😄

MaxInDHouse:
I have answered you in the same post that Peter is always anxious so hearing bad things will happen to his friend make him uncomfortable but the truth is that God revealed Jesus' identity to Peter just as Jesus said that only the father can reveal him to us! Matthew 16:17

So you're wrong that Peter didn't know Jesus!

I didn't ask you this question you're answering.

Which Peter knew Jesus? The one that opposed his crucifixion? Or which one

MaxInDHouse:
You're confused but you need not be if that's not what you choose for yourself.


Jesus (God's only begotten Son) gave Peter the Keys of God's kingdom and said:

I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of the heavens, and whatever you may bind on earth will already be bound in the heavens, and whatever you may loosen on earth will already be loosened in the heavens.” Matthew 16:19

So Peter knew Jesus inside out that's why Jesus said it's God who revealed his identity to Peter {Matthew 16:17} therefore you are wrong saying Peter didn't know Jesus.

And Peter is always anxious of the unknown so Jesus never condemned him for the weakness rather Jesus used Paul to correct Peter even though Paul highly regard Peter as one of the Apostles who walked with Christ Jesus.

Imperfection doesn't mean they don't know God for the scriptures say that to everyone that believes in Jesus he gave the authority to become God's son! John 1:11-12

Ọmọ i'm not interested in your hide and seek game if you want to learn go and meet JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES it's free that they taught me all these things and laid their hands on me to remember all that i'm telling you now! John 14:26

I have waited for this.

Somebody to nudge me to move to the next phase.

Without meaning to, you have just given me the signal to move to the next phase.

You have mentioned that Peter knew Jesus.

This is a major undertaking, to unravel whether Peter knew Jesus or not.

In matthew 16, Peter proclaimed Jesus messiah.

Jesus informed him, it was not FLESH AND BLOOD that revealed it to him.

Not even Peter's flesh and blood.

But the father.

A few moment's later Peter's flesh and blood showed up in true color opposing Jesus death on the cross.

Jesus rebuked him

Now my dear friend, which one was Peter ? Was it the one that proclaimed Jesus messiah or the one that opposed the crucifixion?

I use Peter first because that story is found in matthew 16, where the Lord himself spoke about the church.

If you can answer my question you will understand that no man can know the son. Not even the flesh and blood Peter.

MaxInDHouse:
At least you are CORRECT nah just that you have to rely on their writings and letters!

We use Peters writings, but Paul reproved him.

No man is God.

We interpreted scripture with scripture.

Jesus has final say...no man knows the son exceptnthe father

MaxInDHouse:
So how come first century Jewish disciples of Christ knew themselves and call themselves by name?

"Furthermore, consider the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you according to the wisdom given him" 2Peter 3:15

Now when they saw the outspokenness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated and ordinary men, they were astonished. And they began to realize that they had been with Jesus. Act 4:13

Give my greetings to Prisʹca and Aqʹui·la, my fellow workers in Christ Jesus. Romans 16:3

So how come they recognized one another using names?

Paul also called demas by name.

They also called judas by name.

Yet it didn't make them correct.

No one can know the son

Michael547:
😆😆😆oga get out of here.....so na you be the son wey only the father know.
So even your parents no know you.

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Chaiiiiii

Na wetin dem dey teach una for that una church sef??
No bible knowledge at alllllll


No man knoweth the son means no man can identify the son, nor the sons of God.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ also told His followers not to give that which is Holy — The Gospel of the Kingdom of God — to the dogs — non-Israelites—, warning that the dogs would use it to hurt His followers.

The roots of the religion of Christianity were laid by those whom Jesus Christ referred to as dogs. From those who referred to as church fathers, to the delusions regarding some sort of spiritual Israel, all of these ideas were theorized and established as part of religion by people who believed themselves non-israelites. That which is in every wise antiChrist cannot be of Jesus Christ, no matter the rebranding or reconstituting work done on it.

That which is in every wise antichrist cannot be of Jesus Christ...

I hear !
I hope Michael547 and MaxInDHouse hear this as well.

There is the church then there is the babylonian ANTICHURCH

Postinor:
Jesus isn't God and he never died for the sins of anyone, know this and know peace, assalamualaikum

Mohammed was not a prophet of God

Michael547:
Am I asking you to show me either the father or son?

So you don't know that worshippers are sons

Michael547:
You don't have sense......am I asking you to show me the father?

I believe you're intelligent enough.

Read what you're responding to and correct yourself.
Na waa oo