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AbdelKabir:Mr Demmzy15/Abdelkabir different nicknames wont save u. U write with both and like urself as well using both accounts. Did u see any like or share on my post since we started on this thread? |
Demmzy15:There U go. The creation of Wahhabism sect itself, is to cause division among muslims and British really achieved via ibn Abdulwahab. Confessions of a British Spy and British Enmity Against Islam Must read for every Muslim! This book Confession by a British spy, consists of the memoirs of Hempher, one of the thousands of spies, men or women, send to islamic countries by Ministry of the British Colonies, to demolish the Islamic religion. In this confession, the spy, Hempher, disclosed the lies and slanders fabricated by the Ministry; how he had deceived Muhammad bin Abdulwahhab, the founder of Wahhâbism; how he had strived to divide Muslims into groups and to corrupt their religion. READ IT OOO! Wahhabism: A deadly scripture.. http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/wahhabism-a-deadly-scripture-398516.html&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiyvq2kncbSAhUjOsAKHewqCosQFggcMAY&usg=AFQjCNG5qHSlXtRS5c47MCPCU_c8xK8wEQ.. The Wahhabis| conspiracy school http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://www.conspiracyschool.com/wahhabis&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiyvq2kncbSAhUjOsAKHewqCosQFgglMAk&usg=AFQjCNEz7aaf2d41Sqy_ZrrDcaMXcGarKQ. |
Demmzy15:. [b] Same terrorism was used to create Saudi kingdom and after achieving what Saud & Abdulwahab families wanted, denounced it. Believe it or not U cant change historical facts. Divorcing terrorism from Wahhabism is the greatest lie evertold in human history! [/b]Whether u ISIS support or not, it concerns me not. But WHAT SHELKH KALBANI SAID IS, ISIS GOT HIS INSPIRATION FROM SALAFISM CUM WAHHABISM. I dont expect u to admit coz u might be working to burnish the image of Wahhabism. Saudi Petroldollars is at work. |
Demmzy15:. [b] Same terrorism was used to create Saudi kingdom and after achieving what Saud & Abdulwahab families wanted denounced it. Believe it or not U cant change historical facts. Divorcing terrorism from Wahhabism is the greatest lie evertold in human history! Whether u support or not, it concerns me not. But WHAT SHELKH KALBANI SAID IS, ISIS GOT HIS INSPIRATION FROM SALAFISM CUM WAHHABISM. I dont expect u to admit coz u might be working to burnish the image of Wahhabism. Saudi Petroldollars is at work. |
Na dis one Buhari go use wen im wan con back?
Abi im go wait till de finish Abuja own.
Abeg Buhari Media Centre agents mek una answer mi oo!
I de concern for our president safety. |
Demmzy15:This is u guys' problem. U r always programmed to think U r better in anything. Jst duscussion but u v declared urself to better than me. This is one point ur Sheikh Aadil Kalbani [/b]said in an article entitled ISIS THE TRUE PRODUCT OF SALAFISM/WAHHABISM [b] “This group thinks that no one but itself and its supporters are the source of good and the defenders of monotheism – because [its members] imbibed with their mothers’ milk [the view] that all Muslims worldwide do not understand [monotheism] and that they are not worshipping only Allah but are polytheists who worship graves… and that there are no just clerics besides their own clerics and their disciples. [They think that] only a cleric whom they love, whom they heed and obey, and on whose say they reject or validate [others] – only he holds the truth and acts in accordance with the ways of [ Islam’s] just forefathers… |
AbdelKabir:U dont even know an oversight mistake! president9 instead ofpresident99? was such a mistake and not the bullshit u infered |
Demmzy15:Atimes, the way u reason and fabricate lies to defend a well knowm terrorist leaves me bewildered. Captive yet he defeated his captors. either in war front or debate would he even be given that forum? Dont this defied street man logic? yet u believe such a warped. Sheikh Aadil Kalbani who is also a Wahhabi scholar says ISIS IS A TRUE PRODUCT OF SALAFISM CUM WAHHABISM. should lecture U so that U will know the danger ur predecessor planted That's how Soofees deal with their enemies!Pls read the confessions of British spy but u r here re-writing history for fellow Wahhabists who see His brother is also from Nejd, so if it refers to Muhammad(rah), then it refers to him too. I've been throuh this argument with your cohorts, I'll dig up the thread and show you later.The shaytanic horn has been proved to be Muhammad Ibn Abdulwahab. No thanks to killings he ordered and carried out. Meanwhile, Sheikh Muhammad Ibn Abdulwahab Ibn Sulaymaan al-Tameemi al-Hanbali(rah) is from the tribe of Bani Tameem. Here's what the Prophet(saw) said concerning this noble tribe:Bani Tamim was spread across the arabia pennisula and not peculiar to Najd alone, more concentrated at Najd though. However, Prophet(SAW) specifically mentioned Najd as where the Shaytanic horn would emerge and the world got Muhammad ibn Andulwahhab An Najdi, who has unrivaled record of declaring muslims apostate and killed them as well. No thanks to British who deceived ur sheikh into creating a Wahhabi sect, in order to have a false reason to get Makka n Madina for their puppet. |
AbdelKabir:Nope! stay in Mr know it all. Keep deceiving urself with president9 |
Demmzy15:Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab conspired with the British spies and waged civil war against the Turks to overthrow the Ottomans, check out Terrorism & The Illuminati: A Three Thousand Year History by David Livingstone. Google it and download it from Goodreads.com Narrated Ibn ‘Umar: (The Prophet) said, “O Allah! Bless our Sham (Syria) and our Yemen.” People said, “Our Najd as well.” The Prophet again said, “O Allah! Bless our Sham and Yemen.” They said again, “Our Najd as well.” On that the Prophet said, “There will appear earthquakes and afflictions, and from there appears the Horn of Satan.” (Book #17, Hadith #147, Bukhari)The bolded is Muhammad Ibn Abdulwahab, according to his full blood brother and not me oo! |
Demmzy15:The bolded, were killed for what? perhaps, for having diffrent opinion from Wahhhabi scholars . For your information, 40,000 were killed same way the ISIS is killing now. Alhamdulillah, here is what Sheikh aadil Kalbani said; enjoy reading. Senior Saudi Salafi Cleric: ‘ISIS Is A True Product Of Salafism Posted By: Islamic Philosopher / 56 Comments Sheikh ‘Aadel Al-Kalbani, former imam of the Grand Mosque in Mecca has announced that ISIS is the result of the Salafi version of Islam, and therefore there needs to be changes within the Salafi sect itself. UPDATE: ISIS and Ibn Taymiyyah, understand the connection, understand the problem. “ISIS is a true product of Salafism, and we must deal with it with full transparency.” [/b]This statement was made not by liberal Muslim elements, who regularly criticize Salafism, but by Sheikh ‘Aadel Al-Kalbani, former imam of the Grand Mosque in Mecca and a Salafi himself, hence its importance. Al-Kalbani is not the first Salafi to come out against ISIS – other Saudis have condemned the organization’s conduct and operations – but Al-Kalbani has gone farther in his criticism: he has come out against the principles of the Salafi perception from which ISIS and its ilk draw, and has called for a rationalistic approach to Islam’s distant past and what it means for Islam today instead of a blind reenactment of it . In two articles in the Saudi government daily Al-Riyadh, Al-Kalbani criticized elements in the [b]Salafi stream for appropriating the truth and Islam and for permitting the killing of their opponents, and likewise criticized clerics and society that dared not come out against them. He stated that the call to blindly reenact the path of the Prophet Muhammad and of the forefathers of Islam stems from a faulty grasp of the essence of this path, and that Muhammad (SAW)himself had rejected blind adoption of the perceptions of the past and blind following of the path of his predecessors, choosing instead a rationalistic approach appropriate for a changing reality. Al-Kalbani stated that clerics must take their heads out of the sand and move with the spirit of the times instead of rejecting and condemning any new idea. This is not the first time that Al-Kalbani has challenged the mainstream Saudi clerics. He has harshly attacked suicide bombings, [1] published a fatwa permitting poetry, [2] and called for allowing women to drive cars.[3] The following are translated excerpts from his two recent articles in Al-Riyadh : “ISIS Is A True Product Of Salafism And We Must Deal With It With Full Transparency” On August 15, 2014, Sheikh Al-Kalbani tweeted (@abuabdelelah): “ISIS is a true product of Salafism and we must deal with it with full transparency.” DIRECT LINK TO TWEET HERE . This statement sparked reactions across the social networks, and 10 days later, on August 24, Al-Kalbani wrote in an Al-Riyadh article titled “Is Terrorism A Salafi Product?”: “Every time we see the fitna network sweeping up young people from among our sons… [and pitching them into] to a very deep abyss from which they will emerge only by means of idioms that drip blood, our conscience torments us and we wonder: From whence has this come upon us? How have they fallen into this? As if we could not do a thing before then. “But the opposite is true: The main reason for their deviation is our neglect – and by ‘our’ neglect I mean the [neglect of the] generation of the parents, and of the honorable members of society among the clerics, teachers, preachers, jurisprudents, and sociologists who are linked directly to that society. The words, the books, the sermons, the dramas, and all the artistic creativity and the essential link [to the audience] that these people present in all the media, whether print, radio, or television, [allow them] to monitor the ideas of the young people and to participate in balancing them. I exclude [of course] that tiniest of minorities whose throat is parched from warning about the extremism of theSalafis. “Yes, this is the plant that has sprouted in the garbage dump of those who excessively pass judgment on others and pretend to represent Salafism. How gravely they have accused others of apostasy, of deviating from the right path, of heresy, and of licentiousness – as if the arena lies open before them and there is nobody to condemn them and no judge to punish them. Furthermore, they are received with feigned respect and admiration, and opportunities have been opened to them to plant in the minds of our young people that this one has gone astray and that one is an infidel and the other one is lax in religion . Even the greatest of clerics, past and present, are not spared their arrows. They spread the principles of Islam in a twisted manner that makes them incomprehensible or distorted, and preserve things that negate Islam. They measure the judge, the educated, and the student, and even the simple folk by what they [i.e. these extremists] have learned by heart [but] do not understand, and think that they are entitled to rule that the above mentioned are apostates and to call down upon them the punishments of Allah that are no longer implemented and [by so doing, they think that they will] restore the glory and splendor of monotheism. “This group thinks that no one but itself and its supporters are the source of good and the defenders of monotheism – because [its members] imbibed with their mothers’ milk [the view] that all Muslims worldwide do not understand [monotheism] and that they are not worshipping only Allah but are polytheists who worship graves… and that there are no just clerics besides their own clerics and their disciples. [They think that] only a cleric whom they love, whom they heed and obey, and on whose say they reject or validate [others] – only he holds the truth and acts in accordance with the ways of [ Islam’s] just forefathers… They spread out and multiply, and publicly call for following in the footsteps of some sheikh and for accepting his words in full . They have begun to classify people, preachers, and clerics – [for example,] [b]this sheikh shouldn’t be listened to because he is more loathsome than the Jews and the Christians, and that fatwa deviates [from the right path], so it is forbidden to pray behind anyone who adopts it, or to sit with him, eat with him or respect him. [/b]They have begun… to separate the young people from the clerics who understand the result of [this activity by them] and what difficulties they are going to cause the nation. “Actually, there is no connection between the path of these extremists and the [true] path of the Salafis – which is tolerance, compassion, and gentleness, and in which there is no place for extremism and [religious] fanaticism. [Salafism] is a path that spreads love, brotherhood, and acceptance of the other among Muslims and coexistence with non-Muslims. But the thing is to understand it and to implement it – and not [just to] pretend [to do so] – in a way that is compatible with the deep roots of the past and with the demands of the present. “[However,] what is needed is a perception for reforming ideas, not admonitions, reproof, reactions and word-sparing that deal with the symptom and ignore the disease! There is still enough time to rehabilitate [these ideas], ideologically and practically, and to prevent society from splitting into sects and groups that throng after dignitaries who are enveloped in an aura of immunity [to sin and error] and sanctity, with each group thinking that it has the right to guide the nation and recruit its young people. “A plant is always like its roots. If we want a good, fruitful plant, it is incumbent upon everyone to care for its roots, its water sources, the spread of its branches, and the fertility of the earth [from which it grows], and to protect it from ideas and viruses that turn its fruit and seeds to poison from which the generations sip and on which the young people grow up; from [these seeds] sprouts a plant that has in it no place for compassion and to whom love and friendship are totally alien.” “We Remain Trapped In The Dungeons Of The Very Distant Past”; We Should “Rely On The Past As A Foundation” For Building The Present And Future, Not Destroying Them On August 31, 2014, Al-Kalbani published another article, “The Chains of the Past,” in which he criticized the Salafism that advocates uncritical reliance on Islam’s past, and called for a rationalistic critical approach. He wrote: “We never stop elevating the past at any cost, so much so that it has taken over our lives and thwarted our management of our present, and I do not know what it will do to our future. We claim that the past is the perception, the deeds, and the outlook of the forefathers [of Islam], to the point where if a catastrophe happens to one of us, he hastens to seek a solution for his catastrophe in a book written hundreds of years ago! And then we shout loudly, ‘Islam is compatible with every time and every place[!]’ “What is very strange is that we remain trapped in the dungeons of the very distant past, chewing over the words of Malik [bin Anas [4] ], may the peace of Allah be upon him, ‘The last of this ummah will not be successful unless they follow the same [pattern] that was successful in the hands of its first ones,’ and think that what it means is that we must remain in the first century of the era of the mission [of the Prophet Muhammad], in the same style of life, and in the same patterns and knowledge that he had. “From these words [of Malik bin Anas] I do not understand that our past [must] control our present and constrain our future; rather, I understand that [the past] is what caused the Prophet’s honorable Companions to change their perception, and brought about their wonderful transition from the caves of darkness and straying into the light of truth… What improved the situation of the first generation [of Islam] was not preserving the heritage of the forefathers and the ideas of the previous generations, but the complete opposite. The first generation [of Islam] abandoned the [pattern] of blind imitation, and with the descent [of Koran 96:1] ‘Recite in the name of your Lord,’ the use of the mind began, after it was neglected for many centuries; the wagon of change began to move and to shift the bitter reality full of oppression, backwardness, and idolatry with lofty and clear rational truths. They [the members of the first generation] opened their eyes to what had [always] been in front of them, but which the fog of imitating what their forefathers did had prevented them from seeing… until the honored Koran arrived and removed this fog and enabled them to see what they had been blind to, and to distinguish what they had not noticed [before]. “In the same spirit, I want the past to free us from the yoke of the backwards present – not drag us towards it. I want our past to make us see reality as it is, and for us to rely on it in the areas of development and culture, and for us to emerge from it with momentum towards the horizons of the future and with an enlightened perception. This [should be done] under the direction of the two revelations [the Koran and the Sunna] – and not by means of the opinions of people who have invested most of their efforts in studying that era [of early Islam]. “We should rely on the past as a foundation from which we head out to the future and to the building of the present; this is better than turning the past into [something] that binds our hands and arouses among us rivalry, conflict, and opinions for which we fight and as a result of which we weaken and splinter. Had we done this [from the outset], we would be sitting on the throne of the pinnacle of culture. “We must acknowledge that our past contains things that are not compatible with our present. The religious collapse of the West happened only after it became fully aware of the depth of the yawning chasm between the scientific knowledge that serves the culture that the human mind has attained and the religious beliefs and laws set out by the church, which included beliefs that had been distorted or misunderstood, or were not appropriate for every time. “From among those who call for absolute adherence to the past there has emerged a young generation that defends and fights for opinions and ways that are devoid of the [the correct] Islamic concepts and religious views that can guide the ummah in the right direction. This gang, that has granted itself the right to banish minds, has not grasped the situation of the ummah, and has not managed to adapt to [today’s reality]; therefore its path is to subdue the other or to accuse him of apostasy and of deviating from the right path. [These people] can be found in all walks of life, preventing men of insight from advancing and catching up to the present, and anyone who criticizes them and points out their mistakes is accused of being Khawarij [5] – an accusation tailored for such [critics]. Anyone who talks about women’s rights is deviating from the right path and is loathsome and is lax in religion. Anyone who expresses a wise opinion that has been covered up and ignored because it contradicts their Salafism, is going against the vast majority of the people… and so on… “What is strange is that these radical extremists who accuse their opponents of heresy and of apostasy acknowledge neither the stagnation of their own perception and ideas nor the worthlessness of their religious law, and thus do not recognize that they have left seeds that are today inflicting suffering and torment on the ummah.” Endnotes: [1] See MEMRI Special Dispatch No. 3728, Saudi Sheikh: One Who Kills Himself and Others in Order to Win the Virgins of Paradise Is Not a Martyr but a Suicide; Only the Truly Virtuous Will Gain Paradise , April 1, 2011. [2] See MEMRI Special Dispatch No. 4215, Political Poem By Saudi Prince Triggers Public Debate In Kingdom , March 5, 2013. [3] See MEMRI Inquiry & Analysis No. 1029, Saudi Activists Renew Campaign For Women’s Driving , October 23, 2013. [4] Cleric (d. 795) and the founder of the Maliki school of thought, one of the four in Sunni Islam. [5] Derogatory term referring to a rebel cult in early Islam that split off from the army of Ali ibn Abi Talib at the Battle of Siffin in 657. Post navigation Paris Attacks : Usual Suspects Ibn Taymiyyah : The Founder of ISIS You May Also Like EU report lists Salafi/Wahabi ideology as behind Terror December 24, 2014 Islamic Philosopher 1 Humanism July 21, 2014 Islamic Philosopher 1 Salafi Jihad : Anal Sex …Is anything off limits? June 22, 2015 Islamic Philosopher 0 56 thoughts on “Senior Saudi Salafi Cleric: ‘ISIS Is A True Product . THIS WAS HOW SAUDI KINGDOM WAS ESTABLISHED BY TERRORRISM; KILLING FELLOW MUSLIMS. |
Demmzy15:What is the source of this trash U wrote here? Any attempt to distort historical facts by U, will get U cursed by posterity! So, the multitude of muslims killed in Makka, Madina, Hijaz, Taif and other towns in the former Ottoman empire in order to establish a kingdom for Saud were what? In 1901, Abdul-Aziz Ibn Saud , a fifth generation descendent of Muhammad ibn Saud, [110] began a military campaign that led to the conquest of much of the Arabian peninsula and the founding of present-day Saudi Arabia, after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. [111] The result that safeguarded the vision of Islam-based on the tenets of Islam as preached by Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab was not bloodless, as 40,000 public executions and 350,000 amputations were carried out during its course, according to some estimates. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism. Pls, I say it again, go and read the confession of a British spy. Memoirs of Mr. Hempher, The British Spy to the middleeast. |
Demmzy15:The interest in creating Saudi was to decimate the might of Ottoman empire which British couldnt control and therefore created a puppet country with pseudo sunna to be at its caprice and whims. |
[s] Demmzy15:Mr Wahhabi, go and read the confession of a British spy, atleast to start with. |
Demmzy15:Guy, the bolded, dont attempt to square urself with me [/quote]Attack the message and leave the messenger! Coz I have pointed out ur innovations u are now pained. |
AbuuBilaal:For the Quran compilation, Abubakar(RA) even objected it, for the fact that it was not done by the Prophet(SAW), but later agreed to a superior argument. Hadith, the building of madrasah, the breaking of knowledge into several fields, the building of Madrasah etc.All these are Bid'a whether Masaalihul mursalah or not since they were never practised by the Prophet(SAW). For the Quranic competition, it is even a shame for someone like U who claims to be an upholder of Sunna to holding brief for a such a Bid'a that many hadiths explicitly and implicitly forbid Prophet (SAW) says there is no competition in Islam ”There is no competition except in three: archery, camel racing and horse racing.” [Reported by Abu Dawud 2574, At-Tirmtithi no.1700. and An-Nasai’ no.3616.]" The saying of sodaqallahul Azeez is a dhikr attributed to a specific event. Attributing a dhikr to a specific time, place or event is an act of legislation that only Allah has the right to.Guy, Bid'a is Bid'a, dont resort to opinion of any scholar and if they are not, tell me what all these are? |
FriendNG:An Ayah from the holy Quran irritates me? Subhanallah! How can you even imagine a muslim is being fumed coz of an Ayah from Quran? Haba!! This is a chamber talk, where Wahhabism is eulogised, while others are condemned as kufr or nominal muslims. If you can't fathom what I said, then get help somewhere. Coz I am not an intellectual baby sitter that spoonfeeds one dunce Wahhabist who can't even comprehend but is spamming this forum with Wahhabi Fatwa in the name of Sunna. |
FriendNG:With this bolded sentence, U should be in GST(101) class and not here passing Fatwa about who is a true muslim! Just take a look at yourself, so this ayah has now vindicated U as the only true muslims abi? U need to have ur head checked. This is how U people fleece innocent muslims with ur lies. Wahhabism is from Najd and the Prophet(SAW) had clearly prophesied its coming. Keep on delunding yourself with Wahhsbism in the name of Sunna. Calling yourself sunnis can't save U, it's your intention and work that matter. Bokoharam call themselves Ahl-e- sunna. Are they trully Ahl-e- sunna? |
RABIUSHILE04:Ur ignoramus and obssession about Sufim cant be rivaled by anybody on this forum. Every now and then, U r ever ready to post any rubbish here about Sufism being it in verbatim or paraphrased even if such things challenged ur commonsense! Imagine, Ibrahim Niyass is your god! Are u out of your mind or U r jst carrying out campaign of calumny against sufis courtesy of Saudi petrol dollars being dished out to you? No true muslim WILL ever believe his fellow muslim call human being god in his/her wildest imagination. U need to study the authentic life history of this man and his contribution to the spread of Islam. U dont even know what is Sunna talkless of practising it. Keep on deceiving urself with Wahhabism thinking U practising Sunna. Thank God, we are all mortal beings. Lest I forget, brother, sunna is not by propaganda. |
Rafidi:Dont mind these Wahhabists. To a Wahhabist, every other muslim is irredeemably wrong, but a Wahhabist is perpetually right. They think calling themselves Ahle sunna have crowned them as the only true muslims. The problem with Wahhabism is beyond human redemption, Prophet Muhammad(SAW) had foretold about people of Najd by refusing to pray for them. Wahhabism & Israel: both created by British and sustained by USA. |
I neither trust Apostle Sulaiman nor The lady, coz when they were doing it they never informed us. I believe both sides r being economical with the truth. |
I neither trust Apostle Sulaiman nor The lady, coz when they were doing it they never informed us. I believe both sides r being economical with the truth. |
The way some Nairalanders defend Buhari I doubt if they would defend even their fathers like that. Coz they never see anything wrong with him and his anti masses policies, to them is infallible |
Hmm |
Okay. And how did U reciprocate the gesture? |
I heard Georgina Onuoha too flirts around with Gabriel Suswam according to Aunty Kemi |
AbdelKabir:Self denial is the hallmark of Wahhabism. Pls enjoy ur Wahhabism. |
greatgod2012: |
of course mr sufisunni/president99 we don't expect you to say the truth as regards the deceit you are trying to play here with the monikers, at least you've been lying here since
