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PAGAN9JA:
I appreciate your write up but in the African context, are you implying that our "Pagan" Traditionalist forefathers and practitioners of "Pagan" African Traditional religions plus Chinese, Indians, Japanese, etc. must be killed today because they are not "people of the book"?

Also the Pagans were the original inhabitants of Arabia so they rose in defence of their faith. As per islam, preaching non-islamic religion in islamic countries is an offence punishable by death as in Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. So then are these muslim people in the wrong?

Also, can you give references from the Autenthic Hadith Sahih where the Pagans killed muslims first?

I quoted this verse to support that Muslims were in Defensive only:

2:190 Fight in the way of God those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. God does not like transgressors.
2:191 And kill them wherever you find them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah [Persecution] is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
2:192 And if they cease, then indeed, God is Forgiving and Merciful.
2:193 Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah [Persecution] and [until] worship is for God. But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.





Furthermore, Pagan did not own the land alone. The Muslims did not force anyone to embrace Islam, they are only preaching and reciting what was Revealed not until the Pagan see it as obstacles, then wage war against the Muslims (are you in support with that) ?

PAGAN9JA:
I appreciate your write up but in the African context, are you implying that our "Pagan" Traditionalist forefathers and practitioners of "Pagan" African Traditional religions plus Chinese, Indians, Japanese, etc. must be killed today because they are not "people of the book"?

Also the Pagans were the original inhabitants of Arabia so they rose in defence of their faith. As per islam, preaching non-islamic religion in islamic countries is an offence punishable by death as in Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. So then are these muslim people in the wrong?

Also, can you give references from the Autenthic Hadith Sahih where the Pagans killed muslims first?

If you check my write up very well. You will see a mention that, the said Pagans attacked the Muslims first. What do you expect after that.

The Muslims did not attack anyone they are only preaching that people should leave idol (evil spirit that was credited) worship and worship God alone instead.

Nowhere is was written that "Must be killed"

But must defend for the sake of Allah

aimmoney9:
All because he wants to Bleep virgins after he dies, wetin pussy no go cause does not exist...

My Allah, It is never promised that if you're killing people that you will be granted Virgins. The way to attain Paradise in Islam has been distinguished my brother!

By Allah this is very dishearten, and it given me headache.
Firstly, in my own opinion. This account does not belong to a Muslim. Because Allah did not commanded us to be killing the innocent. Be it Christians or Jews.

I don't know why this set of people think leftward.

In history (beginning) of Islam, there was indeed war between the Muslims and the Pagan (Unbelievers). Thus it was a Defensive One, not Offensive.

It start like this. When Prophet Muhammed begins to preach One God Almighty, the Pagan of Arab dislike it because it against their Idol worship. Thus Islam begin to grow among the people. Now the Pagan are thereby got angry and frustrated by this, thus want to put a stop to it (At least we all know the story of some Prophets and how their people humiliated them while preaching, even Noah). So the Pagan begins to lay a siege for the Islam Believers on their way or at night (Everything is duely recorded). So they began to kill the Muslim in Secret then later bring it to the Public, physically attacking the Muslims, both young and adult. Infact Prophet Muhammed sent some of the Companion to a particular Christian King at Ethiopia. In several attacks by the Pagan without stopping, thus came the Command to Fight Back(Defensive) to defend the Muslims (Which is okay).
My Christian brothers and sisters should take note that no where in the Qur'an Allah commanded the Muslims to fight the people of the Book(Christian and Jews) except those who join hand with the Pagans (it happened).

I don't know what is wrong with those diluted Notherners and the Terrorist tarnishing the Beautiful Image of Islam without knowledge.

There is differences between "The People of the Books" and "The Pagans". Then Pagans were considered an Infidel not the People of the Book.

REFERRENCES BELOW:

Defensive Fight(Not Offensive):

VERSES FROM THE HOLY QURAN:

2:190 Fight in the way of God those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. God does not like transgressors.
2:191 And kill them wherever you find them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah [Persecution] is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
2:192 And if they cease, then indeed, God is Forgiving and Merciful.
2:193 Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah [Persecution] and [until] worship is for God. But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.



I am always displeased whenever our Christian brothers and sisters saying that we are terrorist without knowing the above.
Those Notherners know not the Book(Quran). they merely follow what they tell them by the evil ones.

How can this fool be saying they are commanded to be killing the Unbelievers without know that Pagans are the Unbelievers the Muslim repels against, and did not know that this is not the Era wherein the Muslims were attacked for their Faith?. It very painful

If he continues to attack innocent people. May Allah vehemently destroy him and his co-host of evil minded terrorist.

I am very sorry my brothers. This man know nothing.

Written by me
Mumeen Mubarack

UyaiIncomparabl:

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ststyreal:
Hmmmm!, our mothers shaaaa.... Dem too dey find fault
But if na me oooo, wey be say I like my fiance, I no go fit dey watch my mother in law, they wash clothes while I sidon dey watch her, I must make an attempt to join her in washing. Na so I take win my mother in law over despite all the brouhaha... But the wahala wey dey there be say once you start this Kain things with your mother in law, you must ready to continue am ooooo....
Just apologise to your mother and as well talk to your girl, so that she can make some amendment for the peace of the family. Marriage no easy shaaaa...

Thanks. I will do that

Anigreat

In a wilderness of confusion now.

She helps me a lot, both financial and advices. Maybe my Mum has yet to know her heart. Or please enlighten me more please!

Nazgul

Exactly bro.

There was a girl I was dating sometimes ago.

Whenever she came to my Mum. She'll wash clothes, buy things and all that's. Yet, she is worst inside which I don't even know. I don't want to say what that one did anyway. Bur worst

Hmm yes.

But I have 4 sister and 2 brothers still leaving with my Mum.

I don't believe that my Mum supposed to be saying such.

Or maybe she don't want me to just continue with her?

Please advice me on this.

There is a girl we have been dating for 3 years now, and we seem to be in a good term wrh each other, so I introduced her to my Mum which she welcomed her nicely. And I have got to know her Mum too (not her Dad yet).
She has been visiting my Mum for a greet even without both of use go together. I will just be notified by her that she went there.

So, both of us went there yesterday (Sunday) for a greet. I saw my Mum attitude against her, not so nicely like before. I then begin to observe tightly but noting to hold up on.

That night, my Mum called me that she needs to speak with me (I realized that she's about to talk based the girl).

Mum: Good evening son, I so much love you but that's why I will not kept quiet.

Mum: Your fiancee disrespect me so much. The last time she came, we were washing clothes. She sat down a bit and stood up later to wash, but she didn't even eash it well.

Me: Ah,

Mum: Likewise today (Sunday), she saw me washing clothes and can't even collect it, what if there is a visitor in between?

Mum: Just Incase you see me not so nicely with her next time. You should know that that's the cause. She disrespect me a lot!

Me: Mum, am s sorry, I will talk with her

Mum: No, don't say anything to her concerning this. I will change against her whenever she comes, till she ask that "Why" and I will tell her.

PLEASE, advice me, I so much love my Mum. But I want this girl to be a wife she proves to be.

Please what can I do?

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