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alexis: Is it in the Quran that the "original" Injeel is LOST and the present Bible is "Corrupt". Can nairaland muslims tell us where they get this concept from?

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[b]lanrexlan: I will insha allahu use this post to conclude the thing about the original injeel and Taurat and the bible.This will be my last post on that topic.Consider the following verses of the glorious Quran:


Surah Al-baqarah 2;75-76-'And when they(Jews) meet those who believe(Muslims),they say,'We believe',but when they meet one another in private,they say,'shall you(Jews) tell them(muslims) what Allah has revealed to you,that they(muslims) may argue with you(Jews) about it before your lord? Have you(Jews) then no understanding? Know they(Jews)not that Allah knows what they conceal and what they reveal?

Surah Al-baqarah 2;101-'And when there came to them a messenger of Allah(i.e. Muhammed(pbuh))confirming what was with them,a party of those who were given the scriptures(Jews and Christians) threw away the book of Allah behind their backs as if they did not know!'.

Surah Al-baqarah 2;146-''Those to whom We gave the scriptures(Jews and Christians) recognize him(muhammed(pbuh)) as they recognize their sons.But verily,a party of them conceal the truth while they know it(i.e. The qualities of prophet muhammed(pbuh))written in injeel and Taurat)''.

Surah Al-imran 3;187-''(And remember) when Allah took a covenant from those who were given the scriptures(Jews and Christians) to make it known and clear to mankind and not to hide it,but they threw it away behind their backs and purchased with it some miserable gain!And indeed worst is that which they bought''.

Surah Al-maidah 5;14-15-''And from those who call themselves christians,we took their covenant,but they have abandoned a good part of the message that was sent to them'.So we planted amongst them enmity and hatred till the day of judgement and Allah will inform them what they used to do''.

Brothers,it's clearly stated in the above verses that the Jews and christians have threw away the good part of the message revealed to them,disclosing a little.That's the reason I claimed the bible isn't the injeel,it may contain some GOD's word but a bulk of it are words of historians.Hope that clarifies that...Peace brothers.[/b]

WITH PLENTY OF PROOFS BEFORE AND THIS ONE, I CAN SAY YOU HAVE BEEN KNOCK OUT.BROS REST IN PEACE BROS!

lanrexlan: I will insha allahu use this post to conclude the thing about the original injeel and Taurat and the bible.This will be my last post on that topic.Consider the following verses of the glorious Quran:


Surah Al-baqarah 2;75-76-'And when they(Jews) meet those who believe(Muslims),they say,'We believe',but when they meet one another in private,they say,'shall you(Jews) tell them(muslims) what ALLAH has revealed to you,that they(muslims) may argue with you(Jews) about it before your lord? Have you(Jews) then no understanding? Know they(Jews)not that Allah knows what they conceal and what they reveal?

Surah Al-baqarah 2;101-'And when there came to them a messenger of ALLAH(i.e. Muhammed(pbuh))confirming what was with them,a party of those who were given the scriptures(Jews and Christians) threw away the book of ALLAH behind their backs as if they did not know!'.

Surah Al-baqarah 2;146-''Those to whom We gave the scriptures(Jews and Christians) recognize him(muhammed(pbuh)) as they recognize their sons.But verily,a party of them conceal the truth while they know it(i.e. The qualities of prophet muhammed(pbuh))written in injeel and Taurat)''.

Surah Al-imran 3;187-''(And remember) when ALLAH took a covenant from those who were given the scriptures(Jews and Christians) to make it known and clear to mankind and not to hide it,but they threw it away behind their backs and purchased with it some miserable gain!And indeed worst is that which they bought''.

Surah Al-maidah 5;14-15-''And from those who call themselves christians,we took their covenant,but they have abandoned a good part of the message that was sent to them'.So we planted amongst them enmity and hatred till the day of judgement and ALLAH will inform them what they used to do''.

Brothers,it's clearly stated in the above verses that the Jews and christians have threw away the good part of the message revealed to them,disclosing a little.That's the reason I claimed the bible isn't the injeel,it may contain some GOD's word but a bulk of it are words of historians.Hope that clarifies that...Peace brothers.

GBAM!

lanrexlan: Ha,alexis or soundpoint after all the proofs we have provided,yet you failed to believe.It's not your fault,ALLAH said in the glorious quran in surah Al-baqarah 2;18-'They are deaf,dumb and blind so they will never return to the right path'.Seriously,one thing I hate is when people do stare at obvious truth,brother ayenny has provided many proofs that the bible can't be 100% GOD's word,you can't even reply to a single one.Just asking the same question that has been answered...Peace brother.

GBAM!

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coming back later............

Mintayo: loool...funny dude,there are so many questions you have not answerd and there is no point asking another.

All your questions have been dealt with accordinly.
if you cant ask any question again, then it is now time for us to now ask you and your co a question u can neva answer.
remember you havnt answer the question i asked u before. [b][/b]

Mintayo: my oga,you are still saying the same thing over and over again-
and the question has not changed.
''where is this injil''?
Are you saying there is no record of it all?
Where is the 'distorted' one?
Atleast if i want to distort a book,i will have to use the original!
Assuming alexix said the same thing for the quran,please be honeat-won't you ask him the same question?
Shalom

mr man your question has been answered well.May be you cant comprehend from large passage.

read this from lanrexlan post:

That's why I said the original injeel is no more,the bible may contain some GOD's words but bulk of the bible are words of historians,hope that explains better...Peace brother.


or

from maclantunji post


READ BELOW :

“Woe to those
who write the Book with their own hands and
then say: ‘This is from Allah’ to gain from it a
paltry price. So woe to them for what their
hands have written and woe to them for what
they gain from it.” [Sûrah al-Baqarah: 79]

Even in modern times, the already corrupted Bible is being corrupted the more. Read this:

http://av1611.com/kjbp/charts.html

We know the Bible is corrupted when we see blatant contradictions.

Of course, God could have preserved the previous scriptures including the Gospel but He decided to give us something better- The Qur'an. #Hehehe

Allah Himself has promised to guard the
Qur’an-

Allah has promised in the Qur’an :
"We have, without doubt, sent down
the Message; and We will assuredly
Guard it (from corruption). [Al-Qur’an
15:9]

IS THAT CLEAR?

sam4xadams: All this u have said are xtian now the boko animal or alqedas

yes! those terrorism verses in bible supported them.

Mintayo: guy no offence o,do you have a dictionary at all? Please if you do,kindly check the word 'terrorism',then now go back to the Bible passages.
I am not surprised that you bring up the same Bible passageanother muslim will bring up too(your imam is really feeding you well).
Alexis has given you a nice explaination(i don't actually expect you to believe him) but you still decided to follow what 'you were told' by ur 'ogas at the top'(good for u).
Hates is not good.
Shalom.

welcome mintayo!
killing is one of the atribute of terrorism. sorry man.
those killing acts in those bible is even more than what bokoharam has done to us .

you need to check it again:

Deuteronomy
Chapter 2 :
33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. 34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. ( So Moses and his army killed women and children. Moses broke the 6th commmandment, thou shall not kill ANYONE)

Deuteronomy
Chapter 7:
2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them
5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. 6

Deuteronomy
Chapter 13
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God

Numbers
Chapter 31
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves ( almost all the Nigerian lady will be kill)

1Samuel 6:19-20
And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and' fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us?

1 Kings 20:35-36
Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him.

What?!

Ezekiel 9:5-7
"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."

Another massacare.

eremiah 51:20-26
"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD.
Another massacre, same old story.

Exodus 21:20-21
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property

So you can beat the hell out of your slave as long as the slave does not die, this is straight from the Bible

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peace

I URGE AYENNY AND OTHERS TO NOT REPLY TO THE POST OF DESIKA, ALEXIS AND CO.ALL YOUR PREVIOUS POST HAS ANSWERED THEIR QUESTION PERFECTLY.JUST REPLY TO ANY OF THEIR FRESH QUESTIONS.

alexis: Omo - where is your honor and integrity as a man? Why are you playing stu.p.i.d. I mean - really. You are a moderator yet you can't stand up as a man and confirm a simple question. CAN YOU PROVIDE A COPY OF THE UNCORRUPTED INJEEL OR NOT?

HE HAS REPLIED YOU SINCE.BUT YOU WILL NEVA SEE IT BECOS IGNORANCE HAS BLINDFOLDED YOU.
SHORT ANSWERED:
ORIGINAL INJEEL GIVEN TO ISSA (PBUH) IS NOT IN EXISTED AGAIN BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN CORRUPTED AND TAMPERED WITH BY YOUR PEOPLE.

READ BELOW :

“Woe to those
who write the Book with their own hands and
then say: ‘This is from Allah’ to gain from it a
paltry price. So woe to them for what their
hands have written and woe to them for what
they gain from it.” [Sûrah al-Baqarah: 79]

Even in modern times, the already corrupted Bible is being corrupted the more. Read this:

http://av1611.com/kjbp/charts.html

We know the Bible is corrupted when we see blatant contradictions.

Of course, God could have preserved the previous scriptures including the Gospel but He decided to give us something better- The Qur'an. #Hehehe

Allah Himself has promised to guard the
Qur’an-

Allah has promised in the Qur’an :
"We have, without doubt, sent down
the Message; and We will assuredly
Guard it (from corruption). [Al-Qur’an
15:9]

IS THAT CLEAR?

Mintayo: good one...
And in addition God WAS AND IS still committed to the isrealites,due to the covenants He made with Abraham,Isaac and Jacob(He is a covenant keeping God),therefore, He ensures that no nation 'disturbs' them and when the isrealites rebel or 'wallow' in unbelieve,He disciplines them 'appropriately'!
God is god,He is not a respecter of persons...He is not accountable to anybody...Shalom.

welcome bros!
is like you want to answer these terrorism verses below.pls do

[b]TERRORISM IN THE BIBLE

Deuteronomy
Chapter 2 :
33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. 34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. ( So Moses and his army killed women and children. Moses broke the 6th commmandment, thou shall not kill ANYONE)

Deuteronomy
Chapter 7:
2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them
5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. 6

Deuteronomy
Chapter 13
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God

Numbers
Chapter 31
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves ( almost all the Nigerian lady will be kill)

1Samuel 6:19-20
And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and' fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us?

1 Kings 20:35-36
Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him.

What?!

Ezekiel 9:5-7
"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."

Another massacare.

eremiah 51:20-26
"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD.
Another massacre, same old story.

Exodus 21:20-21
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property

So you can beat the hell out of your slave as long as the slave does not die, this is straight from the Bible[/b]

Waiting.........

alexis: Let us give you some education . Your reasoning faculty is that of an infant - wanting milk all the time. Crying and blaming others for the fouls in their back-yard. Not standing up as a man and condemning acts of violence in the name of a God.


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The grace the Israelites enjoyed in the OT was because their forebears - Abraham, Isaac and Jacob believed in God and it was "counted unto them for righteousness. While many people in other parts of the world gave themselves to idols, built images and called them the god that made the heaven and the earth, the ancestors of the Israelites knew and followed the true God wholeheartedly. God says He punishes the children for the sin of the fathers to:

....the 3rd and 4th generations of them that hate me, and shewing MERCY unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments - Exodus 20:5-6

These nations and wars that were mentioned in the OT committed unprintable sins, one of the worst sins they committed was human sacrifices and especially burning their own children alive to the idol Molech (Deuteronomy 12:30-31). So, you mentioned the terrorism in the verses above, it was judgement for the abominations these nations performed.

You know something ironic - [color=#990000]GOD EVEN DESTROYED ISRAEL WHEN THEY WORSHIPED IDOLS[/color] and when they were lured into the sins of these Moabites and other idolaters. God told Israel that if they indulged in the wickedness of these Canaanites, He would punish them.

In fact, Israel has suffered more for idolatry than any nation in the world. God has dealt with them MORE than their enemies. God chose to use them to reveal the true God to the world. But this privilege carried a great responsibility.

Moving on - the 1st war that the Israelites fought was a direct assault from the Amalekites. There was a shorter way from Egypt to Canaan but the Amalekites were there. So God too Israel through a hazardous wilderness to avoid any confrontation (also to take away the sinful practices of Egypt from them). But as they were resting at Rephidim, the Amalekites suddenly struck - unprovoked, determined to destroy Israel.

Moses sought the face of the Lord and then sent out Joshua and some chosen men to the battlefield. With the help of God, the Amalkites were defeated - Exodus 17:8-13.

And the same-thing happened, many nations that heard about Israel's fame attacked them whenever they heard they were passing by their lands. On all occasions, the Israelites asked:

Let us pass, I pray thee, through thy country; we will not pass through the fields or through the vine-yards, neither will we drink of the water of thy wells: we will go by the king's highway, we will not turn to the right hand nor to the left hand until we have passed they borders - Numbers 20:17

So Moses made an oath and pleaded with the King of Edom but the King refused and they had to turn back.

I can narrate all these wars for you to understand. When you defend yourself - it is not violence. Just the same way in Islam, there is Jihad against those that wants to harm you and attack you - DEFENSIVE JIHAD.

I can give you many many many more examples and will be happy to debate and answer your questions.

see this dude that want to educate someone.......dude that still believe 1+1+1=1 (trinity).

i can see you want to answer only two out of many terrorism sentenses i quoted for you.Even those two you want to answer are out of point.
killing is killing. no other word for that.the story of tortoise you pasted above doesnt answer the question.
I REPEAT SINCE TERRORISM IS FOUND IN BIBLE, WE CAN CONCLUDE THAT BIBLE PREACH TERRORISM.

PLEASE DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR BY ANSWERING THOSE QUESTION OR KEEP SILENT FOREVER.

let move to other questions.
wait for me.............

alexis: You can laugh die mate. What you fail to realize is this:

1. By you trying to find violence in the Bible - YOU HAVE JUSTIFIED RELIGIOUS VIOLENCE IN THE QURAN. You just confirmed it. Your attempt is trying to compare Christianity as a violent religion as Islam.
2. Let us expose your level of thinking . The Fallacy of Force: The Qur'an commands Muslims to wage war against non-Muslims and apostates (Surah 5:33; 9:5, 29) - Your brothers in Boko Haram, you yourself that justifies violence, Ansaru and many others.

Some Muslims (you included) use a false analogy to answer this argument. They respond by saying, "Well, what about the Crusades? You Christians use violence just like Muslims." What about the Old Testament, there were wars in there has well

It is logically erroneous to set up a parallel between Muslims killing people in obedience to the Qur'an and Christians killing people in disobedience to the Bible. While the Qur'an commands Jihad, the New Testament forbids it..

Omo, you can worship a stone if you like - don't through it at me . The blood of innocent people are crying for justice and God Almighty will answer and give them justice.

mr man! u still not answer my question above .
let do it this way.first prove each sentenses i quoted with proof that they are not terrorism. then i will now proof those quran verses you quoted are not terrorism.
SEE IT AGAIN:

[b]Deuteronomy
Chapter 2 :
33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. 34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. ( So Moses and his army killed women and children. Moses broke the 6th commmandment, thou shall not kill ANYONE)

Deuteronomy
Chapter 7:
2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them
5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. 6

Deuteronomy
Chapter 13
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God

Numbers
Chapter 31
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves ( almost all the Nigerian lady will be kill)

1Samuel 6:19-20
And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and' fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us?

1 Kings 20:35-36
Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him.

What?!

Ezekiel 9:5-7
"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."

Another massacare.

eremiah 51:20-26
"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD.
Another massacre, same old story.

Exodus 21:20-21
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property

So you can beat the hell out of your slave as long as the slave does not die, this is straight from the Bible[/b]
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your oga at the top( DESIKA)- can neva found answer to them.
Then how will i worship stone leaving the stone creator .
IT IS YOU THAT SHOULD NOT DIE WORSHIPING 3 gods-TRINITY
LASTLY YOU AND BOKO ARAM ARE THE SAME BECAUSE BOKO ARAM ARE NOT MUSLIM.

PEACE

VULCAN: Possibly the worst post here attempting to rebut deSika is that of justme006. He has only succeeded in weakening the argument for Islam by such a post. I have to say it is nothing short of pathetic and shows that the poster is either very superficial in his knowledge of the bible or very dubious. True, there is nothing untoward in lacking biblical knowledge especially as he is a muslim but why base your points on utter and complete falsehood. He is quoting a verse in the bible in an attempt to show that Christianity supports killing those of other faiths and he then uses a sentence in a story that Jesus was telling his disciples about a king. Justme006 takes one line out of the whole story and wants to build a case out of that. How shallow can one get? Even 8yr olds who attend sunday school know such stories are called parables- A very short story that is told to show forth a truth in a way that all can understand. Talk about taking a sentence out of context. I hope justme006 doesn't represent the best muslim minds that nairaland has to offer because that would be a letdown.

i can see that terrorism verses from bible touch u down.it is either it is the first time you come across it or it shock u to the extent that u cant bear it.
the question is:are those verses are not terrorism? yes or no.
ALSO, do christians always quote from beginning before you conclude to 72 virgins verses.

TERRORISM IN THE BIBLE

[b]Deuteronomy
Chapter 2 :
33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. 34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. ( So Moses and his army killed women and children. Moses broke the 6th commmandment, thou shall not kill ANYONE)

Deuteronomy
Chapter 7:
2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them
5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. 6

Deuteronomy
Chapter 13
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God

Numbers
Chapter 31
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves ( almost all the Nigerian lady will be kill)

1Samuel 6:19-20
And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and' fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us?

1 Kings 20:35-36
Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him.

What?!

Ezekiel 9:5-7
"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."

Another massacare.

eremiah 51:20-26
"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD.
Another massacre, same old story.

Exodus 21:20-21
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property

So you can beat the hell out of your slave as long as the slave does not die, this is straight from the Bible
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AS AYYENNY02 SAID:

I challenge any Christian to come and tell me those verses which I posted are not evil and not terrorism.[/b]


NOW IT IS EITHER YOU SHOULD ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOVE OR REMAIN PERMANENT CONFUSED MIND.

[quote author=alexis][/quote]i dey laugh in kanuri.so u mean u cant answer my question.
well if u cant answer those terorism sentenses i quoted for you other time, that mean we can conlusively say that your bible preaches terrorism .no difference between your religion and boko haram sects.

thank you vedaxcool. am very very happy the way you counter this desika.
i gained alot in this thread .I hav acquired more weapon of knowledge to counter desika and co.

Proffdada: trinity can easily be explained by boolean logic 1+1+1=1 no polytheism just one God in three persons, physically distinguishable spiritually ONE.human intelligence can be limited to discern this but when you in tune with the Holy Spirit you can underdtand the Father through His Only begotten Son

guy am sorry for u.
as old as u are ,you are still brainwash with 1+1+1=1
your gods is poly

deSika: oboye! see what i missed. just a few days away.

anyways i wud like to say thanks you all for your wonderful contributions. yes this includes the derailers, accusers and the off topics. thanks once again

but one thing i would love to confirm is this:
has any muslim being able to answer the op
as in show us where and how early muslims worshipped their God. how they engaged the 5 pillars of islam.

thanks once again. love you all

AYENNY02 HAS ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION PERFECTLY. INFACT HE HAS ALSO HINT US HOW TO COUNTER YOUR FELLOW PEOPLE.
IT IS YOU THAT HAVNT ANSWER AYENNY QUESTIONS.IF YOU WANT ME TO REMIND U THE QUESTIONS LET ME KNOW.

alexis: Hide what? What is the "pastor" hiding?

read these below:

[b]Deuteronomy
Chapter 2 :
33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. 34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. ( So Moses and his army killed women and children. Moses broke the 6th commmandment, thou shall not kill ANYONE)

Deuteronomy
Chapter 7:
2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them
5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. 6

Deuteronomy
Chapter 13
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God

Numbers
Chapter 31
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves ( almost all the Nigerian lady will be kill)

1Samuel 6:19-20
And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and' fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us?

1 Kings 20:35-36
Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him.

What?!

Ezekiel 9:5-7
"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."

Another massacare.

eremiah 51:20-26
"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD.
Another massacre, same old story.

Exodus 21:20-21
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property

So you can beat the hell out of your slave as long as the slave does not die, this is straight from the Bible[/b]


let me know if you want more......

ifeness: I wonder how the 72 virgins feel with some skank with a beard all over their body. And talking about 72 virgins, that is enough to brainwash any illiterate.

sorry dude!
you and boko aram are the same because you are both kafir

mobi5592: .
.
You see to what height the ignorant of a muslim can be. You searched the whole bible couldnt find any violent word from christ, instead you credited to christ a proverb he used to teach about a master and his servants.
How does that compare with direct commands mohammed give his followers to kill and maim?
.
Stop diverting the truth. Evry body can clearly read that verse and see that christ wasnt calling anyone to kill. But if you think other wise, i can understand your the reason for the argument

we know your problem.
many of you do not follow this thread line to line.
see terrorism in your bible

[b]Deuteronomy
Chapter 2 :
33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. 34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. ( So Moses and his army killed women and children. Moses broke the 6th commmandment, thou shall not kill ANYONE)

Deuteronomy
Chapter 7:
2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them
5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. 6

Deuteronomy
Chapter 13
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God

Numbers
Chapter 31
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves ( almost all the Nigerian lady will be kill)

1Samuel 6:19-20
And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and' fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us?

1 Kings 20:35-36
Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him.

What?!

Ezekiel 9:5-7
"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."

Another massacare.

eremiah 51:20-26
"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD.
Another massacre, same old story.

Exodus 21:20-21
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property

So you can beat the hell out of your slave as long as the slave does not die, this is straight from the Bible[/b]




now explain the above sentenses above.

AM VERY HAPPY TO BE A MUSLIM.
AM VERY HAPPY TO NOT BORN TO CHRISTIAN FAMILY.I WOULD HAVE BECOME SOMEONE LIKE DESIKA AND CO.THANK ALLAH ONCE AGAIN.
THANK YOU AYENNY02.MAY ALLAH REWARD YOU ABUNDANTLY. YOU REALLY SHOW US TRICK HOW TO CHALLENGE THESE PEOPLE VERY WELL.
[b][/b]

olumidazz: @maclatunji, non of you or your guys have proven desika wrong here, I have gone through the whole thread in this my lonely state of mind and found that he has made some very erudite submissions that non of you has disproved, Instead of relying on hindsights of emotions based on myths and moonlight tales to disprove. He has not denied getting his facts from ant-islamic websites, but the onus lies on you to disprove which you haven't done successfully. he has drawn very salient conclusions based on facts he directly infers for which has not be factually or intellectually disproved. To this end, his arguments to me do not only contain logic but carry more weight, preprundance of evidence, facts, and has passed the test of reason until you or your other guys prove otherwise.

FOR U TO NOT SEE HOW DESIKA WAS CONFUSED ALLOVER, IT SHOWN THAT YOU READ THE WHOLE POST WITHOUT AN OPEN MIND.
READ OVER AGAIN AND YOU WILL BE HIGHLY CONVINCED THAT DESIKA HAS CONFUSED ALL OVER.

alexis: One of the copy and paste patrons . And you are pasting this because .....................

yes! i copied it to exposed one of the verses that your pastors will always hide from their members

Proffdada: The question is :why do you deny killing people as part of your doctrine?[size=14pt]Quran 2:190-191 [/size]

read LUKE 19:27

Proffdada: why quote mohammed's words and write JesusE

READ LUKE 19:27 YOU WILL UNDERSTAND BETTER.

Proffdada: why quote mohammed's words and write JesusE

READ LUKE 19:27 YOU WILL UNDERSTAND BETTER

[quote author=olempe][/quote][b]LUKE 19:27

New International Version (©2011)
But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'"

New Living Translation (©2007)
And as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king--bring them in and execute them right here in front of me.'"

English Standard Version (©2001)
But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence."

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
But bring here these enemies of mine, who did not want me to rule over them, and slaughter them in my presence.'"

International Standard Version (©2012)
But as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king—bring them here and slaughter them in my presence!'"

NET Bible (©2006)
But as for these enemies of mine who did not want me to be their king, bring them here and slaughter them in front of me!'"

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
“However, those my enemies, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them and kill them in front of me.”

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Bring my enemies, who didn't want me to be their king. Kill them in front of me.'"

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
But those my enemies, who would not that I should reign over them, bring here, and slay them before me.

American King James Version
But those my enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring here, and slay them before me.

American Standard Version
But these mine enemies, that would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Douay-Rheims Bible
But as for those my enemies, who would not have me reign over them, bring them hither, and kill them before me.

Darby Bible Translation
Moreover those mine enemies, who would not have me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them before me.

English Revised Version
Howbeit these mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Webster's Bible Translation
But those my enemies, who would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Weymouth New Testament
But as for those enemies of mine who were unwilling that I should become their king, bring them here, and cut them to pieces in my presence.'"

World English Bible
But bring those enemies of mine who didn't want me to reign over them here, and kill them before me.'"

Young's Literal Translation
but those my enemies, who did not wish me to reign over them, bring hither and slay before me.'[/b]

ok

EzeCanada: Jonathan has this certain midas touch. While haters are busy discussing his daftness and talking the talk, he is busy walking the talk.

He was on hand to console Mama HID even before Tinubu could react.

With this single move, Southwest is ready to be delivered to Jonathan come 2015...

mumu of highest order.
you think south west are slowpoke like you.