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alexis: I admit that I addressed SOME of your questions mate. If you don't want to answer mine - that is fine; not big deal . I thought it rational that we answer each other questions. You raised several verses in the OT, at least over 7. I addressed and explain the first war the Israelites experienced contrary that they were violent. I stopped at the 2nd part explaining how the Israrlites avoided war. So, did I answer all the verses - nope; did I address the concept of violence in the OLD TESTAMENT - YES.

Moving forward - you can answer my question if you want to; I hope you do for scholarship reasons.

I admit that I addressed SOME of your questions mate.

what we are talking here is the question between u and me.stop complicated the topic.

I addressed and explain the first war the Israelites experienced contrary that they were violent

the question here is that, are they not really violent?
so it is because of there previouse war experience that is why they are killing like that?

clear your point very well!

Mintayo: Oga,how many questions have you answered? How many questions have you provided answer to? You were jus dodging the questions and derailing-more than 5 questions have been asked and non,i repeat non have provided answer,instead you have been doing 'follow- follow' and pasting a Bible passage your 'mulahs' told you...even though he explained them to you,are you ready to see the truth in them?

You shall know the Truth and the truth shall set you FREE!

see the question i answer with proof below:

Proffdada: (from profdada)
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boolean_algebra


from me

LOL!

boolean ! boolean!
i have come across many christians explaining this trinity in many funny ways.boolean again!
it is now glaring that your religion is a confused one

let me correct your notion:

God is One

The following verse from the book of Deuteronomy contains an exhortation from Moses (pbuh):

"Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adna Ikhad".
It is a Hebrew quotation which means: "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord"
[The Bible, Deuteronomy 6:4]
let me ask u
now proffada! let me ask u, is there any confusion in the above verse.[The Bible, Deuteronomy 6:4].

tell me where did u see ur trinity.mr man think very well dont be brainwashed.



see this also from quran:
The Most Concise Definition of God

"Say: He is Allah,

The One and Only.

"Allah, the Eternal, Absolute.

"He begets not, nor is He begotten.

And there is none like unto Him."

[Al-Qur’an 112:1-4].


PEACE...........

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alexis: ( from your oga at the top- alexis)

Okay - since it is corrupt. Can you provide the Injeel? Please don't say it is lost because you can't claim the bible is corrupt and you don't have the original.

Why can't ONE muslim on this WHOLE earth provide the ORIGINAL Injeel?


answer from me

ok fine ! let first agree that the current bible u hold has been corrupted.let now move to ur second question where is lost injeel?

For lost injeel,we need to ask the early followers of jesus(pbuh); how it was hijacked by many corrupted and fake follower of jesus.

it is those corrupted and fake follower of jesus up till date that contantly changing and tampered the word of original injeel to fake pamplet calling bible now a.days.

If you want to see the part of copy of lost injeel goten in turkey go to : http://www.thenewstribe.com/2012/02/26/bible-in-which-jesus-predicts-coming-of-prophet-muhammad-unearthed-in-turkey/

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now mr copy and paste show us your post which provide valid answer to the question forward to u.

if u admit that.let me know.

coming bak later for u.....

just few hours i will be bak....

alexis: So you are admitting that I answered you in some way. Listen - indulge me and answer my question

not in some way! admit that you didnt asnwer my questions and that the only two u are trying to answer are answered out of context.

admit that first then i will now answer your question perfectly.

deSika: guy u dont seem intelligent and worthy enough to engage in a discussion with. u need to learn one or two things from Vedaxcool even if he runs away after some time and Lanrexlan. you need to learn how to respond to questions people ask u. did u see how i highlighted your points and answered them. thats wat i expect you to do. Vedaxcool does that thats why i say yu shud learn from him
#u dont seem to be able to think for yourself.. you heavily depend on islamic sites.


#go back highlight my points and respond. am not your normal debater on nnairaland who calls other people names. I ENGAGE IN MEANINGFUL DISCUSSIONS

#BY the way na only one person they answer Barnabas for the whole of Isreal. what makes you think that the author of that book is the barnabas Paul was talking about.



#did Muhammad come to the disciples Jesus was promising a comforter.

all what reply to u has summarise all your points

bros ! is like u want to get angry now.
a truth will always a truth.

once again!

I JUST WANT U TO KNOIW THAT YOUR YANSH HAS BEEN EXPOSED HERE TOO.

WITH THE ABOVE POINT, I WILL LIKE YOU TO NOTIFY ME ANY ANYTIME YOU OPEN ANOTHER THREAD FOR YOUR NEW TOPIC ABOUT ISLAM.BECAUSE I ALWAYS LOVE TO SEE THE WAY PEOPLE OPEN YOUR YANSH.

alexis: Why are you playing pretend? You brought up this violence in the Bible topic way back and I explained and addressed some of your questions. You even responded and said - well, you didn't address all. Am I lying when I say that?

All I am asking you to do is answer my questions just the way I put effort and answered yours.

pretend as how?

you once told me that you have answer those question appropriately and now u are sayin u only answer two from those question.you see your confusion and lying.
those two questions u said u answer are totally out of what i asked you.if u claim what i said is not true why cant u recopy it and paste it here to show us how you answer it.

even if i ansewr ur new question now u will neva believe. let finish all what ur people start first before we move to new topic.


stop jumping around!

is like you have exusted all your point.

alexis: You are yet to answer my own questions na. Wait ya turn . Please answer

1. [size=15pt]Would Northern Nigeria be a better/safer/peaceful place if Boko Haram were Evangelical Christians?[/size].
2. Who was the first muslim in the Quran
3. How many days did it take Allah to create the world

I dey wait your answer

i dey laugh in kanuri

who first ask u a question? for you to answer my question with a new fresh topic, that mean u have confused already!

just answer my question or admit those terrorism verses i quoted for u then i will now knock u out with a valid answer to the fresh question u nw ask me.


ALEXIS ! YOU JUST PROVE TO ME THAT U ARE A EMPTY BARREL.

remember also u must answer all the question i will ask after i answer ur own.

so answer me first.

Proffdada: .
Mohammed even stole his adopted son's wife,zainab and cunningly tried to defend himself. Shameless practice

mr bolean!

show us how he stole her.

alexis: When you quoted the old testament and the wars the Israelites were involved in - I explained them to you. But NO - it wasn't enough - you were adamant that there is violence in the Bible. So I asked you another question:

[size=20pt]Would Northern Nigeria be a better/safer/peaceful place if Boko Haram were Evangelical Christians?[/size]

Answer, you no greee!

lol! see this man o.

ok ! show us how u disputed them.show by quoting each sentences below with proof.
i dont know y u these people like lying.

oya !answer the question below: straight forward

[b]
terrorism in the bible

Deuteronomy
Chapter 2 :
33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. 34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. ( So Moses and his army killed women and children. Moses broke the 6th commmandment, thou shall not kill ANYONE)

Deuteronomy
Chapter 7:
2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them
5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. 6

Deuteronomy
Chapter 13
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God

Numbers
Chapter 31
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves ( almost all the Nigerian lady will be kill)

1Samuel 6:19-20
And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and' fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us?

1 Kings 20:35-36
Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him.

What?!

Ezekiel 9:5-7
"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."

Another massacare.

eremiah 51:20-26
"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD.
Another massacre, same old story.

Exodus 21:20-21
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property

So you can beat the hell out of your slave as long as the slave does not die, this is straight from the Bible[/b]



am waiting. if u cant shut up ur mouth and ignore it

Mintayo: lols,u have posted this before and i have answerd you appropriately...i bet u have bookmarked it on ur phone!

show us how you answered it appropriately ?

LIAR as usual !

Mintayo: lols,u have posted this before and i have answerd you appropriately...i bet u have bookmarked it on ur phone!

show us how you answered it appropriately ?

LIAR !

Mintayo: i see,those are the places you get all your quotes from? Good of you;my friend sit down and read your quran,hadiths and seelah yourself and see what your 'mullahs' been feeding you!

After all you have nothing to say to what i posted above...or do you want more?

Shalom

yes! that is exactly where i see your yansh exposed.

try to bookmark it and enjoy the website. :

http://www.defending-islam.com/page95.html

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=162254240473487&comments


i said it. to every anti-islam website, there are 100 good islamic website that will exposed their liar.




rest in peace mintayo

Mintayo: u have posted it before too...i know u have a lot of them with u...lols.
You people love the Bible so much that i wonder whether u read ur quran at all. May be u shld read this and see what your muslim brothers have to say about islam:


http://www.faithfreedom.org/

that s very good.
i can see u did not disputed the fact that ur bible is corrupt.

if we didnt research ur bible how will muslim believe wat quran say that your bible has been corrupted.

i was thinking you will dissaprove the above error in bible with point!

shame on you


go to : http://www.al-islam.org/short/closerlook/5.htm


it will solve your problem

ifeness: Your truth,not the truth! If you think islam is the path for you,fine! Do not try imposing it on others or try to make them feel guilty for not accepting it. Several ways leads to the market.

DO YOU KNOW WHO START THIS TOPIC?
YOU NEED TO FIND OUT.
TRY TO EXPLAIN WITH PROOF WHY ALL HIS POSTS WERE NOT TRUE. IF U CANT, JUST KEEP QUITE AND CONTINUE LEARNING FROM THIS POST.

PEACE...

TO MINTAYO AND CO



[b]SEE THE REAL 101 CONTRADICTION IN BIBLE



1. Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?
God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)

2. In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?
Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

3. How many fighting men were found in Judah?
Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

4. God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?
Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
Three (I Chronicles 21:12)

5. How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?
Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)

6. How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?
Eighteen (2 Kings 24:
Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)

7. How long did he rule over Jerusalem?
Three months (2 Kings 24:
Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9)

8. The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time?
Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:
Three hundred (I Chronicles 11: 11)

9. When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after?
After (2 Samuel 5 and 6)
Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14)

10. How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark?
Two (Genesis 6:19, 20)
Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8-9)

11. When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he capture?
One thousand and seven hundred (2 Samuel 8:4)
Seven thousand (I Chronicles 18:4)

12. How many stalls for horses did Solomon have?
Forty thousand (I Kings 4:26)
Four thousand (2 chronicles 9:25)

13. In what year of King Asa's reign did Baasha, King of Israel die?
Twenty-sixth year (I Kings 15:33 - 16:
Still alive in the thirty-sixth year (2 Chronicles 16:1)

14. How many overseers did Solomon appoint for the work of building the temple?
Three thousand six hundred (2 Chronicles 2:2)
Three thousand three hundred (I Kings 5:16)

15. Solomon built a facility containing how many baths?
Two thousand (1 Kings 7:26)
Over three thousand (2 Chronicles 4:5)

16. Of the Israelites who were freed from the Babylonian captivity, how many were the children of Pahrath-Moab?
Two thousand eight hundred and twelve (Ezra 2:6)
Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen (Nehemiah 7:11)

17. How many were the children of Zattu?
Nine hundred and forty-five (Ezra 2:
Eight hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:13)

18. How many were the children of Azgad?
One thousand two hundred and twenty-two (Ezra 2:12)
Two thousand three hundred and twenty-two (Nehemiah 7:17)

19. How many were the children of Adin?
Four hundred and fifty-four (Ezra 2:15)
Six hundred and fifty-five (Nehemiah 7:20)

20. How many were the children of Hashum?
Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:19)
Three hundred and twenty-eight (Nehemiah 7:22)

21. How many were the children of Bethel and Ai?
Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:28)
One hundred and twenty-three (Nehemiah 7:32)

22. Ezra 2:64 and Nehemiah 7:66 agree that the total number of the whole assembly was 42,360. Yet the numbers do not add up to anything close. The totals obtained from each book is as follows:
29,818 (Ezra)
31,089 (Nehemiah)

23. How many singers accompanied the assembly?
Two hundred (Ezra 2:65)
Two hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:67)

24. What was the name of King Abijah’s mother?
Michaiah, daughter of Uriel of Gibeah (2 Chronicles 13:2)
Maachah, daughter of Absalom (2 Chronicles 11:20) But Absalom had only one daughter whose name was Tamar (2 Samuel 14:27)

25. Did Joshua and the Israelites capture Jerusalem?
Yes (Joshua 10:23, 40)
No (Joshua 15:63)[/b]

full text here: http://sunnahonline.com/ilm/dawah/0009.htm




EXPLAIN THOSE CONTRADICTIONS ABOVE?

Mintayo: don't be confused dear and as Alexis has said,history is against u ppl.
A. THE QURAN IS ORIGINAL AND HAS NEVER BEEN CHANGED?
The quran itsel admits to cancellations and changes,in Q 2:106, 16:101,22:52 says that satan propose some quranic sura.
The quran was fabricated 100 of yrs after mohammed. None of the author of hadiths of mohammed ever saw or met him-Sahih Bukhari died in 870 A.D (Bukhari vol 6:385),238 yrs after mohammed was poisoned.

IN CONTRAST, the author of Jesus ate,drank and slept,walked,talked,prayed and preached with him!

B. ADAM,NOAH,ABRAHAM,ISAAC,JACOB are muslims and islamic prophets?
But the quran says in 22:52, " never did we send a message or a prophet bfore you(mohammed)". So who is lying? ALLAH OR THE QURAN OR BOTH? HOW DID THEY BECOME MUSLIM WITHOUT THE QURAN? SO IS ALLAH SAYIN WITHOUT MOHAMMMED/QURAN,ONE CAN BE A MUSLIM? if that is so,what is the use of Mohammed and the quran? Ridiculous?

C. THERE ARE NO CONTRADICTIONS IN THE QURAN?
Sura 2:117- allah confirms he created the heaven and d earth instanteneously.
Sura 41:9-12-allah said he created the heaven and d earth in TWO days.
Sura 7:54, 10:3,11:7 and 25:59-allah said it took SIX days.
Sura 41:9-12- allah describe his creation of heavens and earth in EIGHT days(2+4+2) days.
If allah can give his ppl such an inaccurate info,what shall we say about him? About his book? How cld he b so wrong? Isnt he god?
Well contradictions in quran is so long(abt 256 pages).
Another contradiction in sura 2:266,'' Thus allah maketh plain his revelations unto u inorder that ye may give thought''.
Sura 3:7- "None knoweth its explainations save allah".
(the question is- are revelation in quran plain for muslim to understand or does only allah know the explanations to understand them?). Which sura is correct? Which is wrong? Am sure the two cannot be correct,can they?THIS IS A CONTRADICTION,is allah not a god

D
THEY SAY WHAT WAS REVEALED TO ABRAM,ISMAEL,ISAAC,JACOB,THE TRIBES,MOSES AND JESUS ARE IN THE QURAN
Surah 2:136-allah confirmed that he revealed the christain scriptures(the corrupted or the original?)to them and it is in the quran("revealed unto us"-muslim).
Revealed to ishmael-where? What? Moses in the Bible(exodus,leviticus,numbers and deuteronomy) is 137 chapters and 4415 verses(against the quran's 114 chapters and 6241 verses-This alone take takes up the entire quran) Jacob alone is anothe 25 chapters,let alone Abraham,isaac,d jewish tribe and Jesus. The question is-how can one accommodate all this in the quran?which does not account for 25% of the Bible? Is allah lying?
What happened to the scriptures given to Jesus?(he didn't hold or have any). What did Jesus do with them? Who did he hand it over to?(bcus He didnt hand it over to anybody). Did Jesus throw it away? Bcus there is nothing like that in the quran or Bible!
If allah gave Jesus scriptures, then what happend to them? Where is it? It is a mystery!
This mystery draws weird bcus these scriptures given to Jesus and even the four gospels are not in the quran(makin a few reference here and there in the quran are not gospels)...are we to say allah is lying or the quran is lying?

E. QURAN IS A WONDERFUL MASTERPIECE
The chapters of the quran are not arrange in IMPORTANCE,CONTINUITY,BIOGRAPHY,CHRONOLOGY,SIGNIFICANCE OR SEQUENCE of any sort, but arranged by length,d longest chapter 1st and d last chapter with jus 6 lines. Verses r disorderly arranged and jumbled up in unrelated subjects/topics. NO PROPHECY,NO GEOGRAPHY NO BIOGRAPHY(not even mohammed,thanks to hadiths),NO MINISTRY,NO PARABLE,NO MIRACLES,NO HISTORY,NO PSALMS ETC. (I Guess mohammed was in a hurry to copy the Bible)-just do's and don't-with primitive punishments,retaliations plenty and reward specified.

F. THE QURAN EXPLAINS AND CONFIRM THE BIBLE-LIE-(i guess with all d above,we knw it is nt true).
Christains do not need d quran to confirm anything for them,as they knw,the Bible is the 'WORD OF THE LORD', And who ever copy the Bible is cursed by the one true GOD(Rev 22:18-19).

With all this,i think the attack on the Bible,christains and Jesus is UNDERSTANDABLE!

SHALOM.

mr copy and paste !
you have gone there again and copy it here as usual.

the main problem of you and those who wrote that for u can be summarize below:

(a) YOU AND THEM misunderstands the Qur’an



(b) for the Quranic passages in question, they relies on a faulty translation which supports the misunderstanding



(c) you and them take the passages out of their context to support such a misunderstanding.




now , read here the way they open your yansh : http://www.defending-islam.com/page95.html

ALSO READ HERE TO SEE THE WAY YOUR YANSH EXPOSED HERE TOO: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=162254240473487&comments



man u fail again!
try again.

Mintayo: hey dude,why d abuse? I bet the truth is bitter and it is biting too; i am actually expecting a reply,but nothing you say whatsoever wil change FACTs...FACT WILL STILL REMAIN FACT!
No matter how much u try,u can't hide d truth...the TRUTH always prevails!

Shalom.

SO YOU DID NOT SEE A REPLY ALL THESE DAYS.

NO WONDER ! I CAN NOW UNDERSTAND YOU NOW. YOU ARE DOOMED TO NOT SEE THE TRUTH.
AM STILL EXPECTING YOUR COPY AND PASTE TODAY.

Proffdada: Is the analogy confusing or u just have an IQ of an imbecilic ape U need an exorcist not a psychiatrist

mr bolean !
dont vess now!
show us where jesus explain trinity with bolean?

read this:
Mark 12:32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:


MY ANALYSIS

From the above verse,did jesus confuse diciples with bolean to explain oneness of GOD?

read this also:

"Say: He is Allah,

The One and Only.

"Allah, the Eternal, Absolute.

"He begets not, nor is He begotten.

And there is none like unto Him."

[Al-Qur’an 112:1-4].

MY ANALYSIS

From the above verse, no confusion , no bolean

CONCLUSION

FROM THE FACT ABOVE , I CAN CONCLUSIVELY SAY YOU REALY NEED INTERVENTION.
YOU HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CANT USE UR BRAIN TO REASON PERFECTLY AGAIN.

sam4xadams: Instead of you to profer solution to the killing by the Islamist u r here saying nothin

pastor sam ! welcome!

is like u can answer this terrorism verses in bible wc ur fellow colleague can not answer..

[b]terrorism in the bible

Deuteronomy
Chapter 2 :
33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. 34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. ( So Moses and his army killed women and children. Moses broke the 6th commmandment, thou shall not kill ANYONE)

Deuteronomy
Chapter 7:
2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them
5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. 6

Deuteronomy
Chapter 13
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God

Numbers
Chapter 31
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves ( almost all the Nigerian lady will be kill)

1Samuel 6:19-20
And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and' fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us?

1 Kings 20:35-36
Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him.

What?!

Ezekiel 9:5-7
"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."

Another massacare.

eremiah 51:20-26
"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD.
Another massacre, same old story.

Exodus 21:20-21
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property

So you can beat the hell out of your slave as long as the slave does not die, this is straight from the Bible
-------------------------------[/b]



IF U CANT QUOTE EVERY SENTENSES ABOVE AND DISPUTE IT , THEN JOIN THE WAGON OF UR FELLOW IGNORANCE FELLOW.

@mintayo

You are still confused my dear!

i dey laugh in ibibio

i can see! you didnt quote me with evidence. so i will count you as ignorant as usual. u will soon run away. i know the type of christian u be.(bolean principle).

1+1+1=1

are u not a confused soul with the principle above ?

MR DESIKA STOP DECEIVING YOUR SELF! A TRUTH WILL ALWAYS A TRUTH NO MATTER YOU WANT TO MANIPULATE IT.

AFTER PAUL CONFIRM BARNABAS TO YOU! YOU STILL HAVE GUT TO DISOWN BARNABAS JUST BECOS HE DIDNT SUPPORT YOUR DECEPTIVE BELIEF.

READ AGAIN:

P[b]aul describing Barnabas as:

" . . . . Barnabas, touching whom ye received commandments (commandments of Jesus); if he comes unto you, receive him." (Colossians 4:10)[/b]


IF U DIDNT BELIEVE PAUL IN THE ABOVE VERSE WHY DID YOU NOW BELIEVE IN MANY VERSES OF PAUL ON JESUS IN YOUR BIBLE.

I JUST WANT U TO KNOIW THAT YOUR YANSH HAS BEEN EXPOSED HERE TOO.

THANK ALLAH ! YOU DONT HAVE POWER TO HIDE THE POST OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT EXPOSE YOUR YANSH IN THIS FORUM.


WITH THE ABOVE POINT, I WILL LIKE YOU TO NOTIFY ME ANY ANYTIME YOU OPEN ANOTHER THREAD FOR YOUR NEW TOPIC ABOUT ISLAM.BECAUSE I ALWAYS LOVE TO SEE THE WAY PEOPLE OPEN YOUR YANSH.

THANKS BROS!

alexis: Okay - since it is corrupt. Can you provide the Injeel? Please don't say it is lost because you can't claim the bible is corrupt and you don't have the original.

Why can't ONE muslim on this WHOLE earth provide the ORIGINAL Injeel?

ok fine ! let first agree that the current bible u hold has been corrupted.let now move to ur second question where is lost injeel?

For lost injeel,we need to ask the early followers of jesus(pbuh); how it was hijacked by many corrupted and fake follower of jesus.

it is those corrupted and fake follower of jesus up till date that contantly changing and tampered the word of original injeel to fake pamplet calling bible now a.days.

If you want to see the part of copy of lost injeel goten in turkey go to : http://www.thenewstribe.com/2012/02/26/bible-in-which-jesus-predicts-coming-of-prophet-muhammad-unearthed-in-turkey/

Mintayo: i dnt think i need ur message-send it to the boko-haram-bcus they are d one that can convince us about ur jihad story-they are d true follower of islam and mohammed.
Send ur message to them in afganistan,iran,iraq,malaysia,saudi-arabia-they need them gannn...they are the ones telling us what jihad means,they are the ones preaching the quran not YOU!

lol
mr copy and paste! welcome back. you havnt answer my question o. and please why did u ran away yesterday

is like u havnt pasted those you fabricated verses from your anti-islam website today.

Mintayo: abi now... But they just continue move about i.e roam in a circle...saying the same thing over and over again!
D bible is corrupt(and the quran says it is not,and it later says the jew threw it away, and later say allah gave it to themplease when did they throw it away,was it when allah gave it to them?) yet you continue to quote from it to validate urs-what is that?


Shalom.

the problem you have is that you cant comprehend passage well. well , i will like to teach you if you are ready to learn.

THE BIBLE YOU HOLD IN YOUR HAND IS ENTIRELY DIFFRENT FROM THE INJEEL QURAN IS TALKING ABOUT.
IF U SEE QURAN TALKIN ABOUT BOOK GIVEN TO JESUS IT IS INJEEL NOT YOUR CURRENT BIBLE WITH DIFFERENT VERSION. YOUR BIBLE(THE ONE U HOLD IS CORRUPT, YOUR PEOPLE HAS TAMPERED WITH IT). I KNOW MANY CHRISTIAN THAT ADMIT THAT BIBLE HAS BEEN TAMPERED WITH.

MAN DONT REASON WITH UR ANUS PLS.

ARE U CLEAR NOW !

ANOTHER ONE FOR U HERE:


[b]Leviticus 26:29 You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters.

Deuteronomy 28:53 Because of the suffering that your enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the LORD your God has given you.

Deuteronomy 28:56-57 The most gentle and sensitive woman among you?so sensitive and gentle that she would not venture to touch the ground with the sole of her foot?will begrudge the husband she loves and her own son or daughter the afterbirth from her womb and the children she bears. For she intends to eat them secretly during the siege and in the distress that your enemy will inflict on you in your cities.

2 Kings 6:29 So we cooked my son and ate him. The next day I said to her, 'Give up your son so we may eat him,' but she had hidden him."

Jeremiah 19:9 I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and daughters, and they will eat one another's flesh during the stress of the siege imposed on them by the enemies who seek their lives.'

Lamentations 2:20 "Look, O LORD, and consider: Whom have you ever treated like this? Should women eat their offspring, the children they have cared for? Should priest and prophet be killed in the sanctuary of the Lord?

Lamentations 4:10 With their own hands compassionate women have cooked their own children, who became their food when my people were destroyed.

Ezekiel 5:10 Therefore in your midst fathers will eat their children, and children will eat their fathers. I will inflict punishment on you and will scatter all your survivors to the winds. [/b]


MAN! U FAIL AGAIN

alexis: Why are you playing pretend?

Surah (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

Surah (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.".

Read those verses very very well.

MR MAN! COMPARE YOUR QUOTED QURAN VERSES WITH THE BIBLE VERSES BELOW: AT LEAST I CAN SEE ALLAH IS FORGIVING AND MERCIFUL IN THE QURAN VERSES YOU QUOTED.

NOW TELL ME SINGLE MERCY AND FORGIVENESS FROM THESE BIBLE VERSES BELOW:

[b]Deuteronomy
Chapter 2 :
33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. 34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. ( So Moses and his army killed women and children. Moses broke the 6th commmandment, thou shall not kill ANYONE)

Deuteronomy
Chapter 7:
2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them
5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. 6

Deuteronomy
Chapter 13
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God

Numbers
Chapter 31
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves ( almost all the Nigerian lady will be kill)

1Samuel 6:19-20
And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and' fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us?

1 Kings 20:35-36
Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him.

What?!

Ezekiel 9:5-7
"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."

Another massacare.

eremiah 51:20-26
"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD.
Another massacre, same old story.

Exodus 21:20-21
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property

So you can beat the hell out of your slave as long as the slave does not die, this is straight from the Bible[/b]

Your Quran is not an authority to prove anything mate - Mohammed received revelations whenever "Gabriel" told him about it. .

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Muhammad(PBUH) received revelations from GOD through angel.UP TILL NOW NO ERRORS


BIBLE ARE WRITTEN BY THE HAND OF YOUR PEOPLE.COMPOSES OF MANY FALLACIES AND LIE.

Imagine an unlettered man teaching Christians and Jews about their own faith

YES! it confirm to you one of the greatest miracle confirm to MUHAMMAD.(PBUH).

IF MUHAMMAD CAN WRITE YOU WOULD HAVE SAID HE WROTE IT AND COMPOSE IT BY HIMSELF.

SHAME ON U


READ THIS:

[QURAN 029:048] And thou wast not (able) to recite a Book before this (Book came), nor art thou (able) to transcribe it with thy right hand: In that case, indeed, would the talkers of vanities have doubted.



Thou couldst not recite before this any book, nor write it with thy hand, for in that case those who deem it vain would have doubted.


MY ANALYSIS


with the point above,u should now agree that Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) had never recited any book and had never read any book, as he was not able to, i.e. he was unlettered. and still yet a wonderful book who was free from fallacies,is revealed to the world.


sorry dude!

try again..

[quote author=alexis]

The Fallacy of False Assumptions: In logic as well as in law, "historical precedent" means that the burden of proof rests on those who set forth new theories and not on those whose ideas have already been verified. The old tests the new. The already established authority judges any new claims to authority.

man no point here..i will asume you are ignorant

alexis: If Allah is the one that would upload it - why are you implementing Sharia? Why can't your brothers in Northern Nigeria live with others. Why kill a fellow muslim if he leaves the muslim faith?

It is true that Islam is a religion of Allah - that is true. It is not my religion. Allah contradicts himself so much in his own Quran.

well, i dont see any evidence backing your point.so i will cant you ignorance......

alexis: If Allah is the one that would upload it - why are you implementing Sharia? Why can't your brothers in Northern Nigeria live with others. Why kill a fellow muslim if he leaves the muslim faith?

It is true that Islam is a religion of Allah - that is true. It is not my religion. Allah contradicts himself so much in his own Quran.

show us those contradiction and i will show show you more than 90 contradition verses in bible.

MR DESIK!


READ THIS:


http://www.thenewstribe.com/2012/02/26/bible-in-which-jesus-predicts-coming-of-prophet-muhammad-unearthed-in-turkey/


PEACE...

Did Jesus ever speak of Muhammad?

Jesus has said that “Every spirit (meaning every prophet) that confesses that Jesus Christ is come in flesh is of God (John 4:2). Muhammad did indeed confess Jesus Christ as a messenger of God.

Muhammad is also mentioned by name in (Song of Solomon 5:16). In the original Hebrew transcript it clearly states the word “Muhammad” when Solomon is talking about His “friend” and “how sweet his words are”.

Also in the prophecy of Jesus he states that a spirit is to come after him and reside as “The comforter”.

Many Christians claim that due to the presence of the word spirit, we must conclude that it is reffering to the Holy Spirit. However in Revelation 1:4, Seven spirits are mentioned. As there is only one “Holy spirit” (according to Christian belief), we cannot conclude on this statement so easily.

Also the comforter is described with 8 masculine pronouns (“He”), nowhere else in the bible is the Holy Spirit referred to in such terminology as the “Holy Spirit” is neither male nor female and is regarded as “it”. Therefore the assumption that it is referring to a man, would be quite possible.

Let’s take a further look.

When the Comforter comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me” John 15;26

Muhammad testified that Jesus was of God.

“But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Comforter will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. When he comes he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment” John 16; 7,8

Muhammad came after Jesus and did indeed convict righteousness and judgement, while the Holy Spirit was present the entire time even during the birth of Jesus and his ministry. (Elizabeth in Luke 1:41 and Zechariah in Luke 1:67). If Christians still want to argue that it is indeed the Holy Spirit, then they must admit their bible has been corrupted as there is a clear inconsistency.

But when he, the Spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own, he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will bring glory to me by taking from what is mine and making it know to you. All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will take from what is mine and make it known to you. John 16:13-15

Muhammad did not speak of his own (Holy Quran 69:41-46). He also spoke of what he heard from Angel Gabriel, and he told us of what is yet to come. This verse is also clearly referring to a spirit that can speak, while the Holy Spirit is incapable of speech as it only groans and utters words which are in-comprehensive (Romans 8: 25-30). As mentioned before he did enforce what Jesus had enforced aswell, and did spread the same message as Jesus.

The comforter was also to reside with us forever. This is in tune with the Quran that Muhammad is the final messenger, the Quran is the final testament, and the message will remain forever.