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DeepSight:
Why do you say "education alone?" What is wrong with you? Why do you try to isolate each factor we point out? No matter what we say, you try to pretend we are saying that is the only cause. How many times do I have to shout that there are myriad interlocking factors?

If I talk about history, you will say its in the past. If I talk about climate you will say that is long story. If I talk about colonization you will say I am blaming whites. If I talk about time, you will say laziness. And yet you dare talk about greed, the same greed that is common to humanity and which right nw is on lavish open display with Trump without an iota of condemnation from you and tctrills and co.

No one ever isolated one factor alone and its madness to keep saying "its not this alone, its not that alone" when we all agree its many things.

You are just a Trump hater. What open display of greed?
When you guys accuse Trump of corruption, no one takes you serious and for good reason.

IjeBos:
This post still has me laughing.

One of the biggest stories in the US today is Trump's slush fund as it one of the most corrupt acts of any President in US History.
And not only did this guy think it was meaningless, but he thought it was meaningless because it didn't relate to what we all know is the main topic of this thread "Blacks messing up".

And to make it more hilarious, a few posts later he claims to understand the US culture better than I do but seems to not be able to open a US news site to even understand the top stories.

This again is a leftist distraction. The same left calling for reparation asking non slave owners to give money to non slaves is accusing Trump of corruption. This is only a big deal to leftists and no one else.

DeepSight:
You were the one with a silly and presumptuous claim.

The leftists take sides.
If you don't go with your clone who will

IjeBos:
Run along little boy.
Next time you want to run your mouth make sure you can back up the things you say.
Cut out all the emotional childish responses.

I am sure you feel you have made great use of your time but you just wasted everyone's time.
You came here to discuss who lives in the US.
We expect such distractions from the leftists kids
But it's ok, we are used to your time wasting

sonmvayina:
I don't have any religion. Religion is for crowd control.
Spirituality is relationship with the source.
It is aligning with the source. .....stop coming here and tell us about a man that was executed on a cross. The story says he was tried and executed. Does NOT mean anything.

So let's call it your opinion not your religion

IjeBos:
Let's try it again.

Why do I feel that this is the kind of argument that used to sweet you?
Again, what is your point?

IjeBos:
Let's try it again.

Did you just wake from the wrong side of your bed?
What is today's tantrum about

sonmvayina:
Let me explain to you like you are in primary 6.
God created the heavens and earth and everything that is within it. He saw that everything was good. Then on the last day of creation, he took dust from the earth and molded the statue of a man. He then sent his spirit into it and the statue came to life, made another one and added some judicious features and sent his spirit into it and it also came to life....so God spirit is not living inside the statue. So that spirit can now experience life ...he can enjoy his creation..
That is what each one of us is. We are God's spirit experiencing life in various ways as humans....when our time is up. Our spirit returns to God and becomes one with it and our body is buried and it becomes one with the earth(Ecclesiastes 12:7) so which one needs saving. And you see why I said that death is an illusion. It is just return to default.
So as the human population continues to increase it becomes important for them to live in peace and remind us where we came from hence the Torah, then for those who don't know and don't want to know.....like you. They created religion to control you.

As I said, we have different religions. Thanks for explaining yours like I am in primary 1

IjeBos:
I swore I was typing in English.

You are all over the place. Just calm down and tell me what you want

IjeBos:
He said "everyone" and "most uncomfortable" with my presence. Who are you?
Bwahaahhaah
This guy thinks he gives off "Main Character" energy.

I guess you understand what everyone thinks just like you know more about American culture than everyone else despite not being everyone and not living/lived in the US.

Lol
You have been complaining all day. What is your point? What do you want from me?

sonmvayina:
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That is why God only gave us laws to follow so that we will live in peace amongst ourselves. He never said we should worship anything, if he wanted, he would have told us or given us the mode of worship.

Because we are all Gods, you focus too much on the body and forget what is actually inside or living within it.u

Anyway, everyone has his own religion. In your religion, your god is not worshipped, he only gave you commandments.
It's ok

IjeBos:
I don't do the gaslighting and emotional manipulation of my words.

You wrote this, I didn't:


Are you saying you can't defend that now and it was just an emotional childish retort? If so, just say that.
It was a simple question. Explain how you understand American culture better than I do.
You don't live in the US. I think you've tacitly admitted that.
Have you studied it? Do you have some degree in US culture?
Or did you learn about it in the 2 weeks you claim you were in the US?

The problem is that you seem to have some psychology what makes you believe you can be an authority on a topic you really have no experience in.
So, why should anything else that comes out of your moth not be as worthless as the statement, "you understand American culture better than [I] do?"

Everyone on this thread can see that you are the most uncomfortable by my presence for reasons best known to you and you are fighting it with all you have.

IjeBos:
I don't do the gaslighting and emotional manipulation of my words.

You wrote this, I didn't:


Are you saying you can't defend that now and it was just an emotional childish retort? If so, just say that.
It was a simple question. Explain how you understand American culture better than I do.
You don't live in the US. I think you've tacitly admitted that.
Have you studied it? Do you have some degree in US culture?
Or did you learn about it in the 2 weeks you claim you were in the US?

The problem is that you seem to have some psychology what makes you believe you can be an authority on a topic you really have no experience in.
So, why should anything else that comes out of your moth not be as worthless as the statement, "you understand American culture better than [I] do?"

What is it that you don't understand? Everything I wrote is clear so if you have a question ask please.
We are now doing the who is the authority game right.
Oya ask your question .
You don't seem to realise that you are pointless right now.
What exactly are you driving at?

sonmvayina:
So if Jesus existed, he is no different from me and you. Worshipping him is tantamount to idolatry. ....
We all all conscious beings, we are all spiritual beings living within a physical body made from dust.
We are all Gods having a human experience in multiple ways....

I don't know what is hard there that you can't understand

So your point is that we are all Gods hence we shouldn't worship any other God.
I now understand you but I disagree

IjeBos:
So, I think we've established you aren't American.
You should do a deep dive why that is so hard for you to admit.
May give you some much needed perspective on some of the other things you've written here.

And you are qualified to have that discussion because you understand American culture better than I do?
Is that what you are saying?
Either way, why don't you establish how you understand American culture better than I do.

Let's get into your tiny mind.
If you don't hate Trump and you believe blacks should take responsibility of their lives, it means you have never been to America.
You have a strange way of thinking

sonmvayina:
God is consciousness....the divine consciousness. Not a man or human being.

I have my own questions for him. In a minute

Man is also a consciousness so what exactly do you mean

IjeBos:
What I read - You don't live in the US.

The problem is clearly you don't want to admit that.
Because even you know putting a facade over that is central to u spending hours arguing against a culture you barely understand.

Oh I remember, you are the nosey one
I actually understand the American culture better than you do.
But then, let's not make the discussion about me.
You are in team blame the whites and I am in team take responsibility of your life.
Let's return to that discussion

ijebosb:
You forgot you wrote this?


It's always conservatives playing the victim for what they attempt to do to others.
You can miss with all that victimhood BS.

You also seem to have forgotten this isn't a "let me tell you how bad Black Americans are in the US, even though I haven't lived in that culture to even understand it", thread.

Lol
First you assume you are the only one who has lived in the US.
Secondly, the world has become a global village. You don't need to live in London to learn about Buckingham Palace. But then, you assume too many things

ijebosb:
The non-American telling me what is meaningless... cute.

You might want to go back and read the title of this thread
"American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! "

The cancel culture police.
I guess you have access to my passport right?

They complain that Trump is kicking out illegals but here they are attempting to kick 🦵🦶 out there own version of illegals from a speech forum.
Leftist have a serious disease

Theawakensoul:
🌌 WEEKLY SERIES — DAY 2

WHY DOES GOD IN RELIGION ACT SO HUMAN?

Let’s ask a question most people were never encouraged to think deeply about:

If God is infinite…
beyond time…
beyond emotion…
beyond human limitation…

👉 why does God in many religious texts behave so much like ancient human rulers?

Think about it honestly.

Religion often describes God as:
👉 jealous
👉 angry
👉 offended
👉 demanding worship
👉 punishing disobedience
👉 favoring certain tribes
👉 ordering violence
👉 requiring sacrifice

Now pause.

🔥 Are these truly divine qualities…
or reflections of ancient human psychology?

---

🌿 PART 1 THE GOD OF ANCIENT SOCIETIES

Ancient civilizations were built around:
👉 kings
👉 empires
👉 tribal loyalty
👉 warfare
👉 patriarchy
👉 obedience to authority

The ruler was feared.
The ruler demanded loyalty.
The ruler punished rebellion.
The ruler rewarded submission.

And when people imagined God…

they often imagined:
🔥 a cosmic version of the same ruler.

A heavenly king.

So naturally:
👉 anger became divine wrath
👉 tribal loyalty became “chosen people”
👉 war became “holy war”
👉 obedience became salvation
👉 punishment became eternal judgment

The psychology of human power structures became projected onto the Divine.

---

🌿 PART 2 THE QUESTION OF JEALOUSY

Many scriptures describe God as:
👉 jealous

But think carefully about that.

Jealousy usually comes from:
👉 insecurity
👉 fear of losing control
👉 emotional attachment
👉 ego identity

So why would an infinite being need:
👉 validation?
👉 praise?
👉 exclusive worship?

Would infinity really feel threatened by human beings praying differently?

Or is jealousy a deeply human emotion later projected onto God by ancient cultures trying to protect tribal identity?

Because tribal societies survived through:
👉 loyalty
👉 unity
👉 obedience to one system

And religion became one of the strongest tools for preserving that unity.

---

🌿 PART 3 BLOOD SACRIFICE AND PUNISHMENT

Now let’s go deeper.

Many religious systems taught:
👉 sacrifice
👉 blood offerings
👉 punishment for sin
👉 divine wrath needing satisfaction

But ask yourself honestly:

🔥 Why would an all-powerful Source require blood to forgive?

Ancient humans practiced sacrifice long before many organized religions formed.

Why?

Because ancient cultures believed:
👉 the gods needed appeasement
👉 blood carried spiritual power
👉 suffering satisfied divine anger

And over time…
those same ancient ideas became embedded inside religious systems.

But does infinite consciousness really operate through vengeance and appeasement?

Or were humans interpreting the mystery of existence through the mindset of their era?

---

🌿 PART 4 FAVORITISM AND TRIBAL GODS

Another difficult question:

Why do many religions present God as:
👉 favoring one tribe?
👉 one nation?
👉 one religion?
👉 one chosen group?

History shows ancient societies were extremely tribal.

Every tribe believed:
👉 “our god protects us”
👉 “our people are chosen”
👉 “our enemies are evil”

And suddenly…
God begins reflecting human tribalism too.

But if Source created all life…

would Source truly:
👉 hate entire populations?
👉 divide humanity into favorites?
👉 condemn billions based on geography and culture?

Or does that sound more like human tribal identity projected onto the heavens?

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🌿 PART 5 THE BIG QUESTION

This does not mean spirituality is fake.

It means humanity may have mixed:
👉 divine mystery
with
👉 human psychology

And maybe many religious descriptions of God tell us as much about ancient human societies…
as they do about ultimate reality.

Because maybe Source is not:
👉 angry
👉 insecure
👉 tribal
👉 emotionally reactive

Maybe those were human attempts to explain the unknown through the lens of power, fear, survival, and control.

And maybe awakening begins when people stop fearing God as a cosmic ruler…

and start seeking the deeper intelligence behind existence itself.

🔥 Because if God is truly infinite…

why does God in religion behave so much like ancient men?

Drop your thoughts below. Let them come. 🌿

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You wrote so much stuff but let's start from the beginning, why do you think God should be beyond emotions?
That's describing a robot.

ichuka:
Every christain has been baptized in Christ already.the physical ritual is just an affirmation of what has been done already

You can put it how you want but Jesus Christ commanded that physical ritual. Failure to do so is disobedience and we know the punishment for disobedience.

raumdeuter:
Ijebos : I want my reparation too because

That one can hold on straws for Africa. Always bringing up meaningless things.
Blacks are messing up because of Trump's slush fund

DeepSight:
You are just trying to make simplistic caricatures of hard anthropology and the laugh is on you both.
I dont have to keep repeating that there are many interlocking factors.

We need you to explain the factors.. You carried out the research so it would be a shame it you can't explain your research. And you are the one giving the most simplistic excuses.

raumdeuter:
Excuses are like shoe sizes, you will fin one that fits

Its whites, Its sand, its water, its rain, its hiphop, Its God

Don't mind the excuse community

raumdeuter:
Mongolia and Siberia cold is in Fahrenheit, the one in Western Europe is in centigrade. Deepsight Am I doing it right? The excuses thing

Deepsight is angry we are questioning his research.

cococandy:
They are Africans. I want to see how they personally are going to start working to change things.

Unless their solution is to tell us that they themselves are useless and we should just accept them that way.

One way we are working to change things oga is by taking responsibility and not looking for others to blame. You can try it.

DeepSight:
Of course not, its work in progress and its not a journey of a single day or even a single lifetime.
I just reminded TV01 how your beloved Israel has literally been in the same conflict for thousands of years, since he ws bringing up the conflict of the Fulani and Yoruba as proof that Africa will stagnate or regress in the next 200 years.

By the way do you share that view?

You speak about work in progress right so what work is being carried out now?
No matter how small, mention some of the things the black man is doing today that will ensure that golden future in the next 1000 years.

Also, you forget that there is also a possibility of the next 1000 years becoming worst than today. How can you tell that we are even on the right direction

DeepSight:
Unless you dont believe in cause and effect, even for them, there is a cause, a reason, and explanation for everything. That is the law of cause and effect. Unless you believe in voodoo.

So when you say things like - oh the problem is absentee husbands. Please follow up with "Why?" Rather than make it appear as though God created blackmen with that unique tendency.

When tctrills says oh, its leadership and corruption, he should do the same - ask why such poor leadership and why such corruption, rather than make it appear as though it comes naturally with black skin.

And when someone is giving you well researched scientific answers, all you can do is throw up your hands and shout "excuses!"

If your research is as good as you claim, you shouldn't be getting angry and it should provide you with answers to our questions. Your research did not seem to prepare you for questions

DeepSight:
If you know the bold to be true, you have been wasting our time arguing against the obvious.
Can you also discount the circumstances of birth?

Abi it doesn't matter if someone was a homeless orphan and you compare his struggle to that of Dangote's child?
And if he reminds you that he was a homeless orphan you shout "excuses!"

Good
So me can't change the circumstances of our birth but we can only make better choices today right?
What choices are we making today? Or do we keep blaming the circumstances of our birth?

DeepSight:
Pls dont try to flip your own logic on me. Its tctrills that brought Peruvian desert into the matter and I am asking you if Peru is now a developed first world country. If it is not then the argument you were championing falls apart on that score.

This is aside the fact that I troubled myself to extract the differences in the deserts. In fact, one dessert helps another, but forget it. You guys are too lazy for that level.

Mongolia is very cold, how come it isn't developed, same goes for Siberia

GracieX3:
What was your whack solution?

A vague, useless answer- leadership, culture and habits.

I gave you a concrete solution- education and creating trade businesses in black neighborhoods.

Trust me, New York is trying your concrete solution spending a fortune on each child's education but only 10% of it's black kids end up with the right reading skills. But according to you, that makes them number one in the US. To me, that's failure.
Definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting it to work.

raumdeuter:
Just tell them racism is why they are not doing well in anything. Racism is the reason why 70% of kids are born to single mothers

That's what they want to hear