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cococandy:
Great. Now that they passed that point and admitted however many people passed the exams into their program, explain why they’re being sued for admitting black students. Mind you no black person did anything or accused any Asian of anything here.

It’s an Asian woman who’s suing Yale for admitting black students. Are you agreeing that the black students currently in their program do not merit it? Because that’s what the lawsuit is insinuating.

That was the basis of the post you ran to quote without reading. Next time please use your common sense before quoting me. Don’t read the meme without the attached write up.

It seems like that’s what you did and now you’re here embarrassing yourself.

What is this one saying.
No one in the US has ever been sued for admitting black students. They were sued for reducing the test requirements for blacks and the won because the data proves that test requirements were heavily reduced.
Do you finally get it?

cococandy:
Sorry I was stunned by how utterly shallow you are. Wann say it took me by surprise but eh who am I kidding?.

Ok,oga stop diverting.

DeepSight:
They all agree with Kirk that all black Doctors don't deserve their degrees. ALL

No black doctors deserve their degrees out only problem is with those who got it via dei.
I am sure you agree with me and Kirk on this.

DeepSight:
Is it beyond you that children from secure homes necessarily perform better than children from economically challenged homes or is this another excuse in your eyes? As in, you can put a hungry and homeless child beside a well fed and protected one in an exam and then attribute the failure of the disadvantaged one to laziness right?

But the point is even where you see any successful black person you will still like Kirk saying it's DEI.

In short they can never merit anything in your sight.
It's hopeless.

I understand that kids from stable homes do better and I advocate stability in black homes. But you are ok with your gang member accusing Asians of racism.
Excellence has now become a crime. We are 'o longer talking about how to become more like the Asians rather we are requesting that Asians be robbed of their deserved position and it given to blacks.

cococandy:
Sigh. How does one have a conversation with another who doesn’t get simple jabs like this?

Sorry, when you produce enough spark to dimly light a small cupboard, you may come back and converse with the adults.

You call yourself an adult but you will distract and throw jabs like a baby. That's the problem with you, you don't have priorities. You seem to be a confused person

cococandy:
Okay calm down miquet. You’re not reading. You’re just responding based on your already fried short-circuit.

Take a deep breath. You are calm?

The post you’re responding to says even as black people are 14 percent of the population, they are only 7% of Yale med program, compared to Asians who are 7% of the population and yet are 28% of Yale.

Yet someone is suing Yale for admitting black students into their med program. Under the guise of pretending to be against unmerited admissions.

Read it slowly again. Is there anywhere on there where it says people who didn’t pass the admission exams should be admitted?

Oga, the only way to admit people into a school is via exams. It doesn't matter the percentage of black people in America. The only question should be, how many passed the exam?
And use the very same standard used in admitting Asians.
It can't be more simple

cococandy:
I think your favorite color is 5.

Whatever you mean. Good for you.

cococandy:
Trump on the other hand gave Americans suffering death and wanton destruction. Starting from Covid era, we started to recover under Biden and he came back a second time to hammer the nail into the coffin. Compare prices now to Obama era.

He’s definitely America’s biblical punishment.

Actually more black people died of COVID under Biden than under Trump and trump gave Biden the vaccine yet he failed blacks.
Under Trump we recorded the lowest black unemployment is 50 years.
Oga, Trump is more black than Obama.

cococandy:
I guess he was supposed to give special treatment to black Americans only?

So that you and your racycists paymasters can say he was giving black Americans unmerited treatment?

Let's forget what he did for others, I ask point to something that we can look back and say, the greatest black leader of the century has made better for his people.
This was a man that will not help the biggest black nation to eliminate terrorism or even sell weapons to them just because they had a different LGBTQ culture

DeepSight:
And you would never consider that blacks pass any exams of course. Everything they get is a DEI gift, no be so?

One beautiful thing about the US is that the stats are there. We can see performance by race. Nothing is hidden.
So instead of asking how we can improve black results, what do leftist do, accuse Asians of racism.
Now, excellence is equated to racism

cococandy:
Right? Besides black people are just naturally stipud right?. Except for the four and half of you on this thread.

Such that when black folks pass rigorous exams and get into medical school, we shouldn’t just believe it. Why would we. The facts in the white books don’t match that .

We need to sue them. Because how on earth can the naturally stipud black people finish their prerequisites, get premed degrees, pass the MCAT and get into med school?

You fail exams but you will rather blame Asians than take responsibility.
Now it's Asians that are the racist?
It's always another person's fault for doing better than you.

DeepSight:
False. We holistically state everything, including the faults of our people.

You have never done so and even if you do, it's 90:10
90 goes to blaming everyone else.
One of your gang members below is now blaming asians for passing exams and getting into elite colleges at a greater rate than blacks.
You leftists are strange lots

cococandy:
Do the math or read the read so to say. So that next time when you want to help anti black people further the idea that black don’t merit great positions, you reflect deeply on what it is you are saying!

Maybe it's because Asians pass exams.

basilico:
He gave black people hope . Hope you can fry, stew, boil, roast, barbecue and fill your stomach.

Mention policies oga. The dude was in power for 8 years.
Mention things he tried to change in the community.
Stop talking about hope that can't be measured or quantified.
Tinubu also boasts of renewed hope.

DeepSight:
The simple law of cause and effect tells you that there is actually a cause, a reason, and explanation for everything in this world.

Pointing them out actually helps identify solutions.

It's only you and your ilk that see the legitimate explanations as excuses. Of course if I gave you explanations for white depravity you will not utter the word excuses.

I feel dirty interacting with you. Be off.

Yes we can and should talk about cause.
But no where did you mention the blacks as part of the cause. It's always someone else to you.
Why is that foolish?
The best and fastest way to bring about change is by changing the things under your control.
You can't change climate and geography, you really can't change the white man. But we blacks can make changes on ourselves and societies.
So when you skip the black man as the main culprit, you can find solutions.
And why is it that whenever blacks like us talk about solution, you leftist shut us up, calling us racists and slaves.
Something is very wrong

WhizdomXX:
All of us should go and get our PVC and encourage others to do so and vote on election day @cvr.inecnigeria.org. They are not more than us.

You are so right

GracieX3:
I think the best way to convince these uncle Ruckus types (eg Bemeruca, Ramdeuter, tctrills and basilico) is to ask them two questions which they must clearly answer directly with no obfuscation.......

1. What is the solution to black poverty both for African Americans and African countries?

2. How do we fund or support such solutions?

Great question.
Leadership, habits, culture.
Let's take the biggest black leader Barack Obama.
Can you mention just one thing he has done to improve the black race or culture?

DeepSight:
In everything I have written, I guess the climate, the geography are also white men.
Please go away.

You and your views are most unwanted.

No where have you spoken about the failures of the black man.
You blame God (climate and geography)
You blame the white man.
But the most important person in the equation, you leave out. Are you ever serious?

DeepSight:
Good morning.

The Palestinians call themselves refugees. I have actually visited refugee camps in Nigeria. The average Palestinian lives a life that most Nigerians will be envious of. They have electricity for a start. But the irresponsible leftist in you will rather fight Israel than the Tinubu government that is committing real genocide on its people using hunger as a tool

DeepSight:
You talk as though a phenomenon cannot have a legitimate explanation. And that any such explanation is an excuse. At all events, you are still under excommunication and the watch of serpents and scorpions as a potential trafficker in humans.

Oga provide solution.
The explanation of slavery, colonization and segregation no longer exist. There is basically nothing the whites can do to save the black race. It's entirely in your hands but you are a leftist, you have to blame the whites

WhizdomXX:
They said we are now earning less, even with the higher prices now. Despite we having a refinery and subsidy removal.

I just tire. The worst people are those supporting the government. They will say basically anything even if it doesn't make sense

DeepSight:
Palestinians are pampared?
Sick. Shift.

Leftist and tantrums. The West Bank produces nothing yet has a higher standard of living than most of Africa. You leftists need to read more

koxyz:
The government no longer pay subsidy, I hope you know that.

That's more reason why the government should have more money to solve our problems. This should be a boom time for Nigeria. We are making much more money than we have in the last 14 years. So why are we complaining?
The money saved from subsidy should have gone into large scale food production. In short, can you tell how the subsidy money is being spent?

DeepSight:
TV01 you mentioned that at least one nation has "cut and paste" development. Which is that pray tell? UAE? Singapore? If its these nations you have in mind, my answer is that these are micro homogenous states and cannot be compared to complex behemoths like Nigeria. Singapore is a single city for pete's sake, with barely a quarter of the population of Lagos!

Secondly the circumstances and histories still remain different.

This does not mean that we are not encouraged to do better, we really have to do much better.

Excuses excuses excuses
Let's talk solution.
No 2 nations have the same history but the key to growth remains the same, good leadership and the right social cultures and habits.
A culture that encourages innovation, adventure, creativity, hardwork and honesty.

DeepSight:
PS: No one lowers requirements in America.

I don't know where you get your news from but under affirmative action, black kids who scored 20% lower than whites and Asians were admitted to elite colleges.
Just a month ago, blacks had their own segregated districts because they were viewed too weak to compete politically with the rest of America.
The major reason why the leftists oppose voter I'd is because they feel blacks are incapable of getting an ID.
You have become a pampered class just like the Palestinians. And pampered people never learn to compete.
You love going back in history to show racism so let me take you back.
The founder of Planned Parenthood Margaret Sanger the biggest abortion provider in US stated their goal "We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,"
In 1926, Sanger spoke to the women’s auxiliary of the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) in New Jersey to promote birth control methods,
So when you talk about systemic racism, just know that the abortion of the black baby was part of the plan. But even at that, I insist that we take responsibility and resist.

koxyz:
Trump should be blamed for this, he started the unnecessary war and we are all feeling the effects now. Currently at Lagos, a kg of gas now goes for 1,800 Naira

The last time I checked, Nigeria was supposed to be a petroleum exporter not an importer.
This war was supposed to make Nigeria very rich.
The cost of oil has gone up, Nigerian export is in high demand but what do we have to show for it? Hunger

Most of us 'blacks with conservative mindset' used to be liberal. We used to blame the white man for every and anything.
What changed?
We started thinking for ourselves. We discovered that what the liberals was offering the black man is poison.
The solution is not to go back in time to fix past wounds. The solution is to change the habits that led to those injuries.
The solution is to copy the the template of successful people.
The solution is to realise our mistakes and shortcomings and fix them first.
The solution is not to cry Black lives matters but to make black life meaningful.

Imagine what would have happened if each time a black kid kills another black kid, we cry as loud as we did for the criminal George Floyd. Imagine if we are more concerned about black on black violent than the extremely occasional killing of an innocent black man by police.
White liberals donated 100s of millions to Black life's matter but they will not donate a dime to end black violence.

It's okay if we keep arguing, it's even interesting but the solution will come when we take charge of our lives.

DeepSight:
People of your school of thought - both here and offline, always seem to think that when one offers these explanations as to the way the different races have turned out developmentally, one is making excuses. Bemeruca, Tctrills, raumdeuter, each seem to think this way as well. Nothing could be further from the truth. [b]You guys also conclude that it is an avoidance of responsibility. It is not.

I remember asking you what you propose or your suggestions to lift black America. Your answer was basically do nothing. Then again you added that systemic racism should be stopped.
I asked you to further explain but you couldn't.
No where in your answer did you suggest any thing the black man could do for himself.
To me, your answer was most irresponsible.
You and your gang keep expecting the white man to do everything for you.
Your excuse is that the white man is the cause of your underdevelopment which is completely false.

Let's stop making excuses. Let's spend our effort discussing what we the blacks can do and not what the white man can do for us.

Worse part is that you leftists accuse us of having a slave mentality. When did independence and personal responsibility become the mentality of a slave?

It's a slave that keeps asking for bread, for reparation, for aid.

The white liberals who are the real racists know this so the continue to feed your irresponsibility. They tell you that you can't compete and win political power unless you are given your own districts.
They tell you that you can't get into university unless the requirements are lowered. We call it quota system in Nigeria, we tried it on the north, how did it go?

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Rutherinspace:
Comrade, you are missing the point. Nobody is denying that Africa suffers from bad leadership, corruption, weak institutions, poor policies, and lack of development. Those are major problems. But cultural attitudes also play a major role in shaping society, and African patriarchy is one of them.

A society cannot fully progress when half of its population is constantly expected to be silent, submissive, or limited in opportunities. When women are denied equal participation in leadership, education, decision-making, and economic growth, the entire society loses talent, innovation, and balance. No Nigerian woman have been a Governor or president since 1999, hundreds of men have ruled and yet the country continue to go downhill.

Also, this discussion is not about “the chastity of a married woman.” That is exactly the problem reducing women’s value mainly to morality standards while men are often excused from the same expectations. Equality means holding both men and women to the same standards while giving both the same respect and opportunities.

Africa’s problems are complex, but culture influences leadership, family structure, education, and national development. I hope you now have a better understanding comrade.

You are mixing upup to things
A virtuous woman is a plus to any society.
Japanese women are submissive to their husbands yet Japan is an advanced society.

Again asking your women not to sleep with other men is not the same as silencing them.

You seem to be equating bad behaviour with development.

If I get you, you seem to believe that for Africa to develop, we need more women like Frank's wife. I completely disagree, we need more women who value their marriage and their children.

We need more mothers who can instill virtue and discipline into their kids.

Africa is not underdeveloped because we have high expectations for our mothers. In fact, there is no evidence of that.

Rutherinspace:
This is the mindset that has held back progress for far too long in African communities. .

But this is fallacy and I believe you know it.
Why attribute Africa's lack of progress to this.
You mean Africa is not held back because of bad leaders, we are not held back because we lack the instructions. but according to you, we are held back and not progressing because we feel that the chastity of a married woman is stronger in keeping the family than that of her husband.

I really don't understand how you see Africa's problems.

PrimadonnaO:
The emboldened is what I'm calling out.

Was Frank nor accused of cheating? With MULTIPLE women.

That's an even bigger issue. Call Frank out, too.

Men should not be encouraged to cheat. It's equally destroying families.

First, we have much more evidence of his wife. In fact, she was caught in the act. So that alone sets her case apart.

We would not clap for Frank if he is caught cheating but this woman was caught pants down.

It's only right we are outraged by her act while awaiting evidence of Frank's infidelity

PrimadonnaO:
Well.

Everyone in this triangle is CAPS wrong! From Frank, to sister Sandra to Chike!

But men are just being biased, actually. Why are they not calling our their comrade- Frank? They're only attacking Sandra & Chike. Because for many men, a man can cheat but a woman dare not.

The same story as in the days of old. Stone the adulterous woman. But what about the man she slept with?

Anomalies should be condemned on ALL fronts. No sacred cows.

What are you talking about? Is Chike not a man? Most men are outraged with Chike because as men, we seek to protect the family.
This guy came to destroy a fellow brothers home so why shouldn't we be mad at him.
Also, a cheating wife is never the same as a cheating husband.
The virtue of a woman is farore important in stabilizing the family than that of the man.