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dolphinheart:
The scriptures made us to understand that there are many gods, a god is anything that you give might and veneration you can read psalms 86:8 and 1cor :5,6.

But it also tells us which god is the true god, our father the almighty and our creator. Psalms 96:5
His name is jehovah/ yaweh .

So despite the fact that there are many gods, we have only one true god who jesus Christ prayed to in john 17:3 . This true god is the one Christians worship , this true god is the one who sent jesus to use to be our messiah and savior. This same god is the one jesus referred to when he told Mary that he has not yet "ascended to my god and your god".

No where in the bible is jesus or the holy spirit called almighty gods or is equality to almighty god attached to them . There is no "god the father, god the son, god the holy spirit" statement in the bible.

No you have not asked too much .

Demmzy15:
Masha'Allah bro, please ignore them. They're super-dumb, this issue as already been dealt with. They'll keep asking retarded questions, so I'll advice you just ignore them. Salam..

INJESUSNAME:
see the long, evasive, irrelevant, and confusing post to a simple topic.

true2god:
Muslims are mathematicians who can work-out any equation in the bible to validate quranic fallacies\lies. Well, al-taqiyya is permitted in both political and spiritual islam, as long as it is for the benefit of allahh and his lieutenant, mohammed (piss be on him)

dolphinheart:
You can ask Me now

dolphinheart:
Ok , ill be waiting for ur answers. Though I have other questions (based on other topics ill like answered.

dolphinheart:
Pls I do not know who quran 11: 78 is talking about can you explain more on that verse and relate it to the question I asked?

On quran 7:65
Who are the a'ad? Who is hud?
I believe (not sure) that this aad is a group of people and not an individual like Aaron right?
When did hud go to aad? I believe both where alive and most (in aad) are of the same generation with hud right?

If I'm right with my view on that verse, then it is not in line with my initial question which is aimed at finding out quranic verses in which the condition of calling Mary a sister of someone who is hundreds of years older than her and very much dead before she was born. I hope u understand me now. Hud and the aads where verry much alive in that verse.


On verse 73 and 85.
I hold the same view and I'm asking the same questions as above.
We might be cousins or from the same tribe. You might also be older or younger than I am . It will be accepted if I call you brother, but I, and I'm sure , you too, will take offence if any one of us calls our great grand father brothers.

On Quran 50:13
Pls in what way does this verse answer my question .

On quran 49:10
I believe this believers are of the same generation or are alive at the same time.

Pls Bro, my question was not on the mentions of brothers and sisters in the quran but more on the relationship and genealogical difference of these brothers and sisters. So pls can u provide a similar example like that of Aaron and Mary?

Bro ,The second question : what is the historical and spiritual kinship/ relationship between Mary and Aaron .?

plainbibletruth:
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Are you sure you know what you are putting down here?

You were not asked to look for places where you see 'brother' or 'sister' and quote them to claim you've answered the questions. 

The issue is can you show us in the Quran another example of two (2) persons separated by hundreds of years where the YOUNGER was referred to as either the 'brother' or 'sister' of the OLDER like in this case of Mary and Aaron and not 'son' or 'daughter'?

Emilokoiyawon:
Nna na Human BEINGS no be BEANS - you carry illiteracy join?

plainbibletruth:
Is their any example of this kind of usage in ancient literature? I doubt.

If in the face of facts you still choose to accept error you can only be left with your right to believe what you want to believe. 

If you want to believe ANYTHING in defiance of all evidence against your previously held view, so be it. 

No one can force another to reject or believe anything. 

But you must realize that wherever you put your faith determines your eternal destiny. The choice is yours. 

Emilokoiyawon:
Eeeyah, na de same poison wey you dey chop wey dey cause dis your retardation - next time chop normal food, biko

dolphinheart:
Pls, do you have any other example in the quran which used "brother " or "sister" in a relationship between two people who are hundreds of years apart like Aaron and Mary in order to indicate extended kinship?

What is the historical or spiritual kinship/relationship between Aaron and Mary ?

Can I ask you other questions , though not related to this topic ?

Emilokoiyawon:
No worry na for your own good...wetin u cook sef?

XavierBlue:
am not, am a full-blooded Nigerian.



XavierBlue

plainbibletruth:
If it's so OBVIOUS there would no need for the tonnes of Muslim 'explanations' on it, don't you think so?

How does "similarity to Aaron in her piety and worship of God" come in here and is not stated in any way?

And she's been reprimanded for a child that God himself gave her?

And she's also being reminded of her "pious ancestor MIRIAM, the sister of Aaron (and Moses)," and this is very OBVIOUS in the text?

Naming people after"APOSTLES AND PIOUS PERSON§ WHO HAD GONE BEFORE THEM."does not translate into calling them 'sister' of so and so does it?


This clearly shows how Muslims lump together so many varied things and in the end 'brainwash' themselves into accepting a position that even the Quran does not state. 

First, let's note these
- Aaron and Mary the mother of Jesus    were not contemporaries. 
- Mary was NOT from the same tribe as Aaron. 

Having said that let's proceed. 
The best description of Mary in relation to Aaron (if indeed it was not an error Mohammed made) would have been to address her as 'daughter' of Aaron, not 'sister'. 
     - like was pointed out earlier, they     did not live during the same period. 
     - The difference in time - centuries - should NOT ordinarily lend itself to her being seen as a 'sister' of her ancestor. 
     - If Mohammed said people used to do that he was wrong. In referring to relationship to predecessors they would rather say 'son' or 'daughter' of so and so, not 'brother' or 'sister' of their forebear. 

Another error Muslims make is to think that Mary the mother if Jesus was of the same tribe as Aaron. Her lineage was not from Aaron. Aaron was from the tribe of Levi. Mary was from the tribe of Judah. So Muslims CANNOT argue using same-tribe claim to say they could be addressed as brother and sister. 
Aaron and Mary are not from the same tribe.
     - Even if they were of the same tribe, the long span in generations between Aaron and Mary should have made her be addressed as his 'daughter' rather than sister. 

Imagine if the statement were "Mary sister of Adam" , simply because Adam was her forebear. What sense would that make?

All in all, it is clear that the Quran made a gross mistake here in erroneously stating that Mary the mother of Jesus was either directly related to Aaron or was a contemporary of his. 

adullam210:
Is that how to refute a claim? Explain why miriam and Mary got mixed up in the quran, and stop the attempt to cover up allah or muhamad' s mistakes.

Emilokoiyawon:
kingsolex you fall my hand o - I was referring Teekrayne (in support of your efforts to correct his errors), take am easy now.

XavierBlue:
oga its not that easy.



XavierBlue

Onijagidijagan:
d guy na thief o. dont mind him