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Cutehector.. Come near me.
LuveU2, gotten a seat?

Scholar8200:
Wrong Bro

Who is this King of glory?
The Lord strong and mighty,
the Lord mighty in battle.
Psalm 24:8

The mighty God, even the Lord, hath spoken,
and called the earth from the rising of the sun unto the going down thereof.
Psalm 50:1

The Lord thy God in the midst of thee is mighty;
he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy;
he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing
Zephaniah 3:17

Great, don't forget am not arguing out the fact that Jesus isn't a God. The bible said that. But, what am seeing from the Scripture is that, there is a higher God other than Jesus.
Look at what John 17:3 says: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
Note. Jesus addressed someone as the only true God, later, he mentioned that he was sent by that true God.

Scholar8200:
He isnt the true God yet Isaiah 9:6 was Inspired by His Spirit? Was He lying? Or was it mere flattery?

If there is a saperate true God, that means the title of that true God will be Almighty.
And the one lesser than the only true God, will be mighty.

Is that right?

theEYe21:
It's not even in the bible. It's speaking gibberish, only mad people or mentally ill patients can speak in tongues

Where are you? Lol
Surprised!!

[quote author=solite3 post=47693642][/quote]Cool.
Granted, Jesus is a God, but yet, there is one true God. Right?

theEYe21:
Anyone that does that around me is going to be slapped. You can't be making noise and shouting in my ear.

Of course its a noise.
What's speaking in tongue.

Scholar8200:
And how many of them did God approve of like He did in Isaiah 9:6?

Okay, fine!

Your answer is in John 1:1,18.

That place, says Of "God" and "Jesus". And that shows that Jesus isn't the true God, but he came to declare the true God we can't see, right?

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falconey:
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ireneony, luveu2 and Cutehector

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FlawlesRebirth02:
.RIP to the Dead •••bad things happens buh who are we to question God

We can question him.. Afterall faithful men of old questioned God, and they had beautiful and consoling answer to their questions.
Habakkuk questioned God.
Haba 1:2 "O LORD, how long shall I cry, and thou wilt not hear! even cry out unto thee of violence, and thou wilt not save"... ... ...
God isn't a wicked God.
He is never the cause of our problems...

Scholar8200:
The use of God fits in in John 1:18! Just as the usage in Isaiah 9:6 agrees with both in John 1:1,18. The Word was with God and the Word was God. The Word was with God not as a lesser god but as Proverbs 8 puts it:

then I was by him{John 1:1 recalls}, as one brought up with him:
and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
Proverbs 8:30

This expresses Oneness and Unity.

Note that clause here as it denotes equality:
Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul
Acts 13:1

Vs 18 exposes the relationship between the Word and God viz Father and Son.

Jesus expresses all of the above (not as an errand god to reveal God) but in tandem with the tenor of the above:

5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them
John 17:5,10

HE didnt say the glory I had FROM Thee but WITH Thee! Besides, vs 10 underscores the preceding verses that shows the Unity and Oneness.

Am not disputing the fact that Jesus is being referred to as a mighty God.
At least, there are many Lords and God, but there should be one true God.
But what am concerned about is this,
Is Jesus the only true God?

halfricanadian:
God forbid

I said same.
But Jolsnow suggested eating it along a hot drink. Not really Hot!

Halfricanadian, come and eat.

The title isn't complete yet..
Add the makeup part.
Haba, real face nnko?

I nearly puke.
A friend shared these pictures with me.

But Nigerians can be creative, I tell you.

unitysheart:
I noticed that "god" and not "God" mostly appeared in your write up. Could it be that some translators specifically stopped using god and replaced it with God to push their idea of Jesus being equal to God far?

Noted, bro.
Maybe Scholar8200 will check this below.
The use of "God" in John 1:1, don't you think it doesn't harmonize with John 1:18?
Read it carefully.

Then if "god" was used, don't you think that sure fits in what's in John 1:18?

Cc: Scholar8200.

Scholar8200:
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
and the government shall be upon his shoulder:
and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor,
The mighty God,...
Isaiah 9:6

This verse alone refutes all those 'translations' that renders it as god!

Forgotten this?
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."
Have people seen God?
Have people seen Jesus?
Be exact, thanks.

solite3:
what are you saying? The Spirit of God reveals the deep things of God, without him you can not understand God's word however you try, that's because the word of God is spiritually discerned. 'The WORD was God' as written by saint John is in total agreement with other verses of the bible. Isaiah 9:6 clearly stated that the one to be born is called THE MIGHTY GOD.

Clear, Jesus is called mighty God, thanks for that.

But don't forget my initial question.
Who explained God? Jesus?
If we had seen Jesus, that means there is the true God we haven't seen which Jesus explained.
Then since Jesus is God, does he need to explain another God superior than him?

halfricanadian:
Most important thing he is sha fine now

Padi, Padi.. . How far?

solite3:
u are trying to understand heavenly things in earthly way, it doesn't work that way, so John 1:1 according to KJV is very correct. The word is God! There is no contradiction in the bible you don't just understand simple only those with the holy spirit can relate to it.

That's exactly what am trying to avoid. Should the holy spirit reveal something outrightly different from what's written in the holy book?

dayowunmi:
The Bible says God created man in his own image! How did God create Man? He created him a trinity, i.e Spirit, Soul and Body. Because God created us in his Image, God was already a Trinity But his own model of trinity is Father, Son and the Spirit. Jesus has been existing from the beginning of time and that was what John was saying and because Jesus is God the Son that means he's also God. As a human being, you are more than mere flesh there's a spirit and a soul, Jesus is God but also there's a God the Father too that is separate from God and there's a Holy Spirit that is separate from The Father and Jesus.

Any part of the scripture to support the bolded?
Thanks in advance, bro.

Scholar8200:
For to us a Child is born, to us a Son is given; and the government shall be upon His shoulder, and His name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,...
Isaiah 9:6

There you have it, straight from the Father! The Son spoken of in John 1:18 is here called the Mighty God by the Father Himself!

Haven't people seen God( Jesus)?

solite3:
Op it seems as if you are confuse but in your confusion do not alter the word of God. Thank u

How? There must certainly be a reason for saying this, bro.
I seek for clarification!

[color=black]Let's check further, this time around, we will be journeying down to John 1: 18 it reads: "No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."
Now what does this mean?
Which other God is John talking about? Who declared God?
Have people not seen God?
What's incorrect about Kjv rendering here?

*Note, if the holy spirit would make us understand something, it should be in line what's written in the Holy Book and not totally out of it.[/color]

Cc: Marv650, unitysheart, and all.

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Yes! He continued in verse 14 of that same chapter that: " And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."
Obviously, the Word is Jesus Christ, right?
Now, going back to John 1: 1 rendering,
Fixing that "word" found in John 1:14 to John 1:1,
This is what you'll get.
"In the beginning was the Word(Jesus), and the Word(Jesus) was with God, and the Word(Jesus) was God."
This is so obvious, here, the rendering suggests that Jesus is God and not was a god, right?
Now does further rendering of Kjv disagree with John 1:1 and John 1:14, rendering?
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[color=black]*Note: Am not an Atheist neither am I an Evolutionist. I am a Bible Student.
I hope to see honest responses. Like you Know, the Bible wasn't originally written in English, it was written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek!
Reasonable set of people are quite welcomed.


Now to the point.

King James' rendering of John 1:1 goes thus: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

Now the question, who's the word that apostle John said was God and not was a god?
Can we further check other apostle John's statement for clarification?[/color]

No long story.

Like someone highlighted, there are bacteria which has importance for soils and crops.
Meanwhile, what about the harmful bacteria? The bottom line of bacteria in human is sickness and death.
Was it part of God's plan?

The Bible answers:
Gen 1:28- God never wanted us to die.
Gen 3: 5&6- Adam and Eve listened to Satan rather than God.
Well, we were never created like robots. So, we have freedom.
Events turned.
Satan thereby became the ruler- 1 John 5:19; John 12:30.
Obviously, Satan has proven to be a bad ruler.
But soon God will right all the wrongs Satan caused.
Death will be no more, sickness, mourning nor outcry, former things would pass away- Revelation 21: 3,4
Isnt that comforting?

Bad Belle dey behind, look at the pix very well..
Why is that countenance? At least, putting on a simple smile wouldn't harm.

Cutehector:
Kenneth205 and clevadani abeg na who pay for d flexing Btw two of una

Reminds of some peeps back then..

Poorboy:
just checked your dated of registration 2014 respect Boss... This is my alternate moniker!

I've been here since 2011, Reg 2012!
I did this during the NL data wipe off saga.

*fades off *

And you registered, 2016