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mightyhaze:
They couldn't live off that rich green route?

It's not as if it's a desert route

Did you conclude they actually died of hunger because of the news?
Don't just believe everything you're told.

Esitim:
Pls guys, if you're led to help pls kindly assist me with some money to buy drugs. Av been very sick with malaria and typhoid but I haven't taken drugs or eaten anything since due to lack of money. Am currently having high fever.I live with my dad who is retired and my mom is late. Am pleading from my heart pls kindly assist me pls. may God bless you Acct no:

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Keep cursing yourself.

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smadas:
Whenever I sleep , I always see myself in my previous school or house. I also dream of snakes and other wild animals. I eat and have sex in the dream. I also experience sleep paralysis. Please what does this mean?I am a Muslim and I have prayed about it but didn't work. Please help.

Do you watch porn or masturbate?
Don't mind that kobo.junkie guy. He will mislead you.
You will notice you're also having set backs physically. You are far behind and not moving forward.
There is a monitoring spirit you need to pray against.
What should you do.
1. Surrender your life to Jesus Christ. Doing this gives you the power to use His name to bind and rebuke the demonic forces.
2. Attend a Bible believing church where you can grow in the knowledge of Jesus Christ.
3. Study the Bible
4. Lastly, pray to God in Jesus name. As you pray, you will start seeing changes in your life.
All the best.

MrPresident1:
Are you a Muslim?

Of course he is

TakeNigeriaBack:
True God is the ONLY God that matters not jesus, mohammed or allah. Your brain is leaking ma.

The true God sent you to be insulting people. Right?

TakeNigeriaBack:
Both Islam and Christianity are frauds. I am glad I walked away from Christianity. What a sick religion. A tool of European oppression and colonialism. God punish the fools that brough Islam and Christianity to Nigeria.

What do you practice now. Since you still mentioned God, what religion are you?

kollinzgee:
It seems People are gradually ditching christianity and islam both consciously and subconsciously but do not want to accept atheism because they still believe their is definitely superior being up there who designed the universe.
people are now seeing themselves as gods created by a bigger God which they know very little about,they now see Jesus and muhammed as mere humans like themselves who are philosophers.
If they want anything from their creator the just speak to him directly in their quiet time.
I am not one of them though..

I don't blame them. They begin to see themselves as creators once they can master things like astral projection, yoga meditation etc. Time will tell. They will all come back to submit to the authority of the Almighty God. Just that many would have missed the opportunity to spend eternity with God by then.

Still selling

AntiChristian:
You can see the spiritual yet your Spirit self can't lead to reconcile the contradictions i put forward?
You must be a liar!

I left you in your delusion. You are in darkness and you enjoy this darkness. Only Jesus can save you.

Kobojunkie,
You see yourself? Always antagonising about. You are doing the work of the devil (accuser of the brethren). A lot of people are warning you, but you keep turning deaf ears.
Remember the verse below.

Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy i am now a Christian as in one of the students of the world's most wonderful counselor of all time {Isaiah 9:6} so Jesus said i should love my neighbours as myself {Mark 12:31} love my enemies {Matthew 5:43-48} and my fellow believers {John 13:34-35} there is no way these can be possible if i am campaigning for Tinubu while you are doing the same for Obi, we will surely hate each other to death!
That's why Jesus called Satan the prince of this world {John 14:30 compare to 2 Corinthians 4:4 and 1John 5:19} so when talking about people killing people {Revelations 6:3-4} nah politics cause am. In the absence of politics no religion supports killing our neighbour!

Good. Keep your message simple and don't begin to delve into what will bring arguments that turns members of the Lord's body apart like what the likes of kobo.junkie does. The gospel is easy to follow, but when we begin to argue and merry- go -round, we achieve nothing and we learn nonnew thing.

Lukuluku69:
Of course we will believe more in what our experiences say. And I can tell you that the Christians say stuff more than what the Muslims say about Christians.

You are free to propagate your ideas, Philosophy and all that, as long as you can accept that the other guy have a right to accept or reject them. Then leave it at that. God has not made any man a watcher over other men.

Preach your message and leave it at that. That is what the Quran says. Preach your message and leave it at that, to God is everyone's return.

For you to know that it is the Christians who do the mocking more, visit the Religion, Politics and Foreign Affairs section on Nairaland and take notes of what are being posted on a daily basis.

The Muslim fight back like the Op of this thread try to do is just reactionary.

I have already told you what I experience.

Lukuluku69:
The mocking thing actually goes both ways but my experience is the Christians do it more. It is not the mocking alone, they demonize every and anything they don't understand.

You know we can only relate as per our experiences, for me it is the Christians who do most of the mocking.

Both the Bible and the Quran says invite people with beautiful preachings to the way of your Lord. Appeal to their Souls, appeal to their intellects, appeal to their experiences but you will rather see the Christians not doing any of these but rather come with their views and want you to accept it without any question and if you reject it, the abuses and mocking starts.

I have had opportunity to sit amongst Christians without them knowing what Faith I subscribed to, what was said about Islam and Muslims is outta this world.

There is a Church right in front of my house, the Pastor sermon is never complete till he mention Islam and Muslims!

I have been reading posts on Nairaland for 2-3 years as a guest but when I see what was being said about the Faith I hold dear and what was being said about the person of those you beloved, I decided to join at least to say something and like I said, sometimes when a Muslim mock, it is reactionary and nothing more.

Well, from what I know, the Muslims preach against Christians more in their mosques than Christians talking about Muslims in churches.

MaxInDHouse:
Because politics is from Satan the devil and Satan is a KILLER! John 8:44

So once you're into politics there's no way you can truly love your neighbours, enemies and fellow believers as Jesus commanded!

That's not true. The Bible verse you quoted is out of context. Don't be like kobo.junkie

MaxInDHouse:
I'm not arguing but stating FACTS.

The first time i saw my mom wish someone death was when politics caused a division but before then she's the meekest i've ever known.
So if you are also into politics i'm telling you right now that you will surely hate your fellow believers to death no matter what religion you belong to!

Well, that's not fact anymore because you just proved it is not.
Why should politics make me to hate those I love before?

MaxInDHouse:
I disagree with the highlighted Sir!

Because i'm from a Muslim background and my own people show love to their neighbours including fellow worshipers except when there is political difference.
That's the first time i noticed my ever calm mom wish evil against her fellow believers!

No point arguing. You answered yourself.
It is what you have inside of you, you express. That it doesn't show forth now doesn't mean it is not there. They never like you even though they kill rams and share the meat with you.
It is God who searches the heart. Men look at appearance.

Lukuluku69:
Well said Sir.

We all should support what God supports. That's is Godly.

But here on Nairaland, do Christians support what God support? There are hundreds of issue which God did not support plaguing Christiandom, some fundamental issues but you hardly see Christians taking a stand on them but you will come across same Christians raising issues which they largely have no idea about about Islam.

I can tell you that some Muslims actually became members on Nairaland because of the abuses from Christians.

Them opening threads and joining issues with Christians is simply reactionary and nothing more.

You are right in some of your statements.
I have a Muslim neighbor who lives his life mocking Christians. I just laugh at him and go my way.
He is one the Muslims who provoke Christians to talk about Islam. Just like what antichristian is doing.
When I try to have a discussion on religion with Muslims and he doesn't accept my points, I pray for them.

Islam is worse than a deadly virus both to those who practice it and to those who stay around those who practice it.
Muslims live their lives in hatred. This hatred will harm those around them and they themselves will be destroyed by their hatreds

Kobojunkie:
1. Again, I challenge you to list at least one verse passage I have so far quoted out-of-context in my discussion with you: one and explain why you believe it quoted out-of-context.

2. I have seen not a single place in this entire discourse, beginning from page 1, where you have done any such that you claim. Instead, all you have are attempts at asserting verses that you posted say what they don't.

3. I am quite OK with the Jesus Christ that I have as Master over my soul. I have no need for that which is master over you.

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No need to drag this one at this point. Simply point out the passages you accuse me of taking out-of-context or upturning, or I will be more than willing to accept that your accusation was false, part of the lies that Jesus Christ warned results from imbibing the doctrines and traditions of men.

Again, over 70% of your Bible quotes are out of context. You don't see your faults even when people point them to you over and over again.
You are like the Scribes and Pharisees who always see wrong in what Jesus does.

Lukuluku69:
Boss, why not direct this same word of Advice to many of your brethrens here on Nairaland?

For every Thread opened by the one you quoted there is at least 4-5 Threads opened by Christians on Islam and Muslims.

Good morning Boss.
I don't support whatever God doesn't support. If I see anyone who needs advice, whether they are Christians or not, I advice them.

Kobojunkie:


1. I challenge you to list at least one verse passage I have so far quoted out-of-context in my discussion with you: one and explain why you believe it quoted out-of-context.

2. Again, according to Jesus Christ those who love Him are those who carefully obey His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 15 - 20 - meaning that they bear fruits that result from the obedience to His teachings and commandments which in John 15 vs 1 - 11, Jesus Christ explains is that which results from abiding in Him. So, if you claim that by obeying Jesus Christ's very teachings and commandments I bear contrary fruits, then what you are invariably saying is that Jesus Christ Himself lied regarding the results of obeying His teachings and commandments.

3. I challenge you to state one passage from all the passages I have presented so far that I have upturned in this: one passage explaining why you believe it upturned.

Over 70% of the Bible verses you quote bars out of context. I have pointed them to you. Go through your posts on nairaland and see what Christians say about you.
Repent while it is possible now

Kobojunkie:
1. Well duh!

2. Again, everything I have stated so far corresponds to that found in the Gospel teachings of Jesus Christ from 2000 years ago, the same teachings which He informed you were everlasting --- never changing. So, if you don't agree with what is written in the Gospels what that means is that you serve a different Jesus Christ, one who has changed his mind, and in so doing, you serve a different master than the one written in scripture which is the one I serve. Certainly, this assuredly means we don't serve the same Jesus Christ --- maybe yours is the Muslim version, who knows ---and since it is impossible to serve two masters in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 6 vs 24 -- we cannot both then be in agreement as far as that which we are each commissioned to do.

3. I am totally against all lies sold by those who use the name of God in their deceit. Jesus Christ was against such lies and He spent quite a significant portion of His time teaching against such lies --- all doctrines and traditions of men (and their churches) are lies by the way --- and those who propagate them using the name of God. So, why you expect me to bend to your way against Jesus Christ is beyond me.

4. Jesus Christ said, "By their fruits, ye shall know them", and He also taught that those who belong to Him are those who obey His teachings and commandments. Can anyone who blatantly rejects the teachings of Jesus Christ, casting them down as being against that which he currently holds, belong to Jesus Christ?

You quote Bible verses out of context.
By their fruits, you shall know them. The fruits you bear does not connote that of Jesus Christ but the fruits of an antichrist.
You upturn the scriptures and the truth of God. Stop it and repent before it is too late for you.

AntiChristian:
You can see demons? Then you need a psychiatrist! Go get help!

Many Christians can see the spiritual world. We are not like Muslims who are decieving themselves thinking they worship God without any experience.

Kobojunkie:
1. What question did you ask me?

2. We can't agree for sure since I am Jesus-Christ-focused since I stay within the confines of the Gospel of the Kingdom of God as taught by Jesus Christ whereas you --- from your every comment so far --- are anything but.

3. I am not here to serve your whims but the Truth of God, Jesus Christ, and every single thing I have said of your churches are taken directly from His teachings, meaning you don't even agree with Jesus Christ on His view of that which you continue to refer to as your "body of christ". Your opinion is of no concern to me.

4. The word "antiChrist" refers to any and all that which contravenes/contradicts the teachings of Jesus Christ, and so far, you and your "body of christ" are it. And as I am sent by Jesus Christ to teach His Gospel to the world, I am here to do exactly as He has commanded of me. If you have a problem with that, I am afraid I am unable to help you at all.

5. Sin refers to disobedience of the teachings and commandments of God, in our case, Jesus Christ. If I choose to obey Jesus Christ in all I do, how can I be said to heap sins upon my own head by doing the Will of God? It seems you don't even realize the meaning in many of the soundbites you have been fed by your pastors and mogs.

Except we serve a different Jesus. The Jesus Christ I know didn't send you to do all these things.
There are people who speak against some of the church doctrines and I agree with some of them. Yours is more like you are against the church and not the doctrines which is against the message of the gospel.
I can boldly say that you don't represent Christ. You exhibit more of an antichrist behaviour.

Kobojunkie:
1. Absolutely none of the scriptures you posted relate any of what you claim. We can even dig into the Greek scripts to be sure of this. Nowhere in the entirety of the Gospels did Jesus Christ tell His followers that the fruit they are to bear are of the human kind.

2. I am definitely not a part of that which you refer to as the "body of Christ" manned by your pastors and mogs who teach you their doctrines and traditions in place of the Truth as taught by Jesus Christ.

None of the verses of the Bible you quoted too answered any of my questions. So this means we don't agree with each other. I don't support you attacking churches. As far as I am concerned, you are attacking the body of Christ.
Don't be an antichrist. It is better you just stay off Christians if you are not comfortable with their practices rather than spending every day of your life condemning Christians. You are heaping sins upon your head if you don't know.

AntiChristian:
Correct the error! Start from the OP and correct my errors!

Who is the father of Joseph the adopted father of God?

Which geneology of Jesus is correct Matthew's or Luke's?

Demons are controlling you. I can see them.

Kobojunkie:
1. But so far I have revealed that what you tangle with has nothing to do with Jesus Christ to begin with since the very Word of Jesus Christ is what stands against them.

2. According to Jesus Christ, the fruits that matter are those born of obeisance of His teachings and commandments, which is what I continue to insist on here..

3. Nowhere in the entirety of what is the Gospels is that which you claim written. Yet you continue to insist it is so, why??

If, again, as Jesus Christ said, those who belong to Him are those who do what He commands using His name, what value is there is there that which He never even said we should pretending that we do them for His sake?

I have shown you from the scriptures of the need to gather as believers. You chose not to believe. Why? It just shows you aren't part of the body of Christ. You are on your own and you don't belong to Jesus Christ but you preach your own message.

Kobojunkie:
1. However exactly did you arrive at this conclusion where nowhere in the entirety of the Gospels are fruits directly or indirectly related to humans?

2. Going against your human fruits you mean?

What you do is bring division to the body of Christ which is the fruit already abiding.
Go and bear fruits. Same way Jesus chose us and ordained us. He expects us to bring in more people into the fold. It is the commandment that gave birth to the church of today which you are not part of as you claim.

Kobojunkie:
1. The first says I should go and teach the very same Gospel that He is teaching me to those in world, baptizing those who wish to be. It doesn't say I should win anyone though since the same Jesus Christ teaches that only those who stand faithful - living in continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ- until the end that will be saved - Matthew 24 vs 12 - 13 & Mark 13 vs 13. So how can I claim to win anyone when at the end, the person's salvation depends solely on said person?

2. The second speaks of bearing fruit and ensuring my fruits remains. Are you under some notion that the fruit Jesus Christ speaks of are humans?

Yes the fruits means humans. Bear human fruits and let the them remain is what Jesus Christ commanded us.
I only see you on nairaland going against fruits rather than bearing any.

Kobojunkie:
Did Jesus Christ command that I win someone to Him?

Yes.
Matthew 28:19-20 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.


John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.