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Hello All,

I created a new thread/ topic for Real Halitosis Talk.
Learn, share experiences, manage your condition..follow topic here.

https://www.nairaland.com/6921519/real-halitosis-talk-proper-education

Hello NL,

I created this topic to talk about Halitosis as it is in reality.
I've suffered halitosis of different degrees over the years, and I'd like to debunk the general idea, misconceptions, share experiences and also hear from Fellow sufferers.

If you've had this BB problem and got cured, please share your experiences here.

Regards

Hello All, I remember writing a post same day last year (Dec 31st 2020).. sadly, same old, same old.

My breath now stinks worse than I can even believe.. at some point I thought I was going crazy.. this sh#t fills a big palor.. like a huge mansion (duplex) palor.. no jokes. I've never seen BB that travels upto 20ft, while maintaining it's potency. What's worse, I can't sit in same room or office with someone else.. Even with my mouth closed..BB exits my nose and fills the entire area... As if oral malodor isn't bad enough..even my breathing has become offensive.

Ive tried lots of new treatments, supplements and pills and somehow I was able to eradicate the bad/sour nasty taste from my mouth.
This constant persistent taste has been one agonizing reminder of my predicament, it gets so bad that I literally almost puke in my own mouth due to how bad it tastes..
I use therabreath Max strength (18k on Jumia) and it makes it worse.

While thats some victory or maybe goodnews, my BB is unscathed. With the bad taste permanently gone (for 3 months now)..I'm positive a solution will come.

Things that MAY have eradicated this bad taste

1. Glycerin and Borax - Buy any brand, I'm not a marketer. N700-1000. Use to brush your tongue thoroughly..use as mouthwash too.. it's the only thing that gives BB victims (yes we are) a pink tongue. The average BB sufferer has a heavy whitish coating on the tongue.

2. Avoid Certain foods- COMPLETELY
A. Milk (Diary) of any kind wether powder or evaporated.
B. Avoid beans and protein rich foods
C. Never, ever, ever take raw sugar, processed sugar, Any sugar never ever ever ever. Say bye bye to Soft drinks and soda.. if you're observant, you'd noticed your BB gets 10x worse after taking coke or any soda rich in sugar.
D. Avoid beef, your body can't digest it fast enough..eat fish or chicken.
The list is long.. rice (Yes Rice) used to give me terrible BB and really bad sour taste till this bad taste issues was solved miraculously.

Note that once relapse in avoiding these..your starting from square 1.

Till my next post..stay kind. BB is not our fault, we're most likely more hygienic than you will ever be.

StonesA:
Hmmm e no easy bro, me too i've been battling this issue for years now, i also spent a lot of money to make sure i get rid of this social killer disease but all to na avail. But recently i discovered that their is this particular hospital in the US(National Breath Center Verginia) led by Dr Richard Miller a renowed American dentist, i heard of so many testimonies of people who were cured of bad breath in this hospital. Their main focus is on eliminating the actual cause of halitoises. Right now as i am typing this messsge i wish i have enough money to go there for treatment, his is the only dentist i can trust for now, cos i've been scammed so many times by Nigerian dentists. For those of us who were facing this type of problem but have enough money to go for treatment, pls try this American hospital so that others can have hope.

Stop wishing for things that are far fetched and worthless.. I know folks who has gone to that particular clinic and several others and haven't found a solution after spending thousands of dollars.

Hi All
I just don't know how to tell you halitosis doesn't have a cure. It's a global problem and nobody cares.

I've now spent over 2 million naira, yet nothing as scratched this problem.. hasn't reduced a little bit, only gets worse. it's a daily battle to maintain my sanity.

The goodnews is, I've been digging for years and found, some persons found a cure..after 15-40years of suffering.

I'm putting together a list of things that works (for some people) and thing that are a colossal waste of money. Considering an anonymous forum for fellow sufferers where we can share experiences n help each other.

Reply if you're interested.. No fees, nothing shady.

@AboveandBeyond0.

It's great to see the life you've built with this major setback. You're a fighter and I admire that.

UPDATE on the Tonsillectomy.

I had the Tonsillectomy, costs 350k, spent around 400k+, difficult painful recovery process but I'm fully recovered.

Sadly, It didn't work. Matter of fact, the tonsils were helping, as the problem grew from worse to terribly worse. It's been months after the Tonsillectomy, I've completely healed but I get the decayed blood smell now. Like a surgical would healing, funny I can smell it now.

I'm inclined to think that translates to my throat as the culprit since bacteria is acting on the surgical site even after healing giving off the "surgical blood smell" but all my assumptions has costs me over 1 million naira now and the spending hasn't stopped..I'm exhausted, tired of assumptions.

My Conclusions is thus: for anyone that reads this in the near future.

1. If your BB fills an entire room, no matter how big..IT is Systemic. Oral causes BB dosnt go far..like 2 feet max. I have a friend with 2 DECAYING teeth which "they" have refused to remove for fear of doctors.. the BB "they" have is only perceived at Very close (probably kissing distance) range. What can be worse than decaying tooth?

2. If your tonsils don't have visible stones..leave it alone.

3. Doctors and dentists will exploit your desperation, know what you're doing and be careful. Do not patronize any herbal or tradomedical "holistic" liars..they're all thieves no matter the branding.

4. If BB comes out from your nose even when ur not talking..it is systemic.
Systemic BB in my experience is propagated by the lungs, so the Bad breath odor is actually in your exhaled breath..not in a localized location.. imagine when living (breathing) becomes offensive to another person?

Here's my theory. Systemic BB is caused by a failed or disrupted process of one or more of your internal organs - Liver, Kidney, stomach and lungs. It could be either of them or combination of more than one.

When that happens toxins (VSCs) that are supposed to be excreted through default pathways ENTER INTO YOUR BLOODSTREAM which is then expelled through your lungs with the air you breath out. The breath from lungs literally tells you the state of your internal health or system.

Reason with me, the liver filters blood from toxins and all of that, if the liver fails to do so properly the toxins (VSC) backtrack or escape into your bloodstream, which is circulated through your body and gets to your lungs. Your lungs expels the gases from your bloodstream through your exhaled breath which is now containing VSC, it goes out through the airways and it's expelled through your nose and mouth as chronic BB.

Even if u wash your mouth with bleach, you're wasting your time the odor others are perceiving (dat u most likely can't perceive- it's frustrating I know) is embedded IN THE VERY AIR YOU'RE BREATHING OUT.

Research BLOOD BORNE HALITOSIS. It's difficult to threat because every systemic activity (stomach- digestion, Liver- filteration, kidneys- same all processes ends up in the bloodstream.

If u have stomach problems or leaky gut, it still ends up in the bloodstream expelled through your lungs. That's the reason real chronic halitosis is far reaching. I've recorded a halitosis reaching distance of about 18feet from the subject..Yes 18feet in an open environment.

What could be worse than that? No I wasn't born with it.. Nobody in my family or family tree has it.

I'm burned out, it's hard not to get depressed, Yes I get depressed, who wouldn't?, but I will never give up, to every question there is an answer.

Till my next post, stay kind.

EDIT: UPDATE on My BB issue. If you see someone with Halitosis, don't laugh or assume you have better hygiene, stop saying brush your teeth or use mouthwash, halitosis is more than that, just count yourself lucky.

Sadly, it turns out the H.Pylori medication knocked off some bad bacteria while on the meds.. so yes , BB left but returned with full force when I finished the medication. BB is almost always a bacteria problem, it's a question of where? Source? What part of ur body? It could be anywhere, it's a curse, literally.

I won't come here to whine about how unfair life has been or how poorly you're treated by everyone due to this condition, I'd encourage everyone going thru it to NEVER give up.

Here's what I've tried Medically
1. Consulted a GI- everything is fine, was given PPI and antacids, nothing worked. I've tried digestive enzymes, acidophilus, unsweetened yoghurt, sugar & diary free diet, all the types of antibiotics that exists, a whole lot of other medications.. BB unscathed, not even a lil bit.

2. Consulted 6 ENT specialist/ surgeon- Had a Paransal CT Scan (that shit is expensive)-Everything fine, ear fine, nose fine, however tonsils r inflamed, no pain or visible stones. I also have throat irritation with a very rare sighting called "Cobblestone throat"- I had to educate some on what they were seeing..it's rare.

3. Consulted 4 dentists- All praised me for my impeccable oral hygiene ☺️, clean mouth, clean tongue, white teeth, no problems, YES I HAVE ALWAYS PRACTICED IMPECCABLE ORAL HYGIENE even as a kid, 3 toothbrushes, tongue scraper,pack of dental floss, brush at least twice daily long before this problem started. Dental appointments end with an S&P..which does nothing. Had a dental surgery based on dentist recommendation still BB:100 me :0.

4. Consulted 2 GPs: the worst sets of human beings on Earth, held their nose thru the session, after giving him my full medical history n investigations he told me to go brush my teeth, lol, later said use another mouth wash, see another dentist, while still holding his nose...

5. Tried all the home remedy u can find on Google, expensive to really cheap ones, followed them religious, BB: 1000, ME: 0.

6. I've used several Native traditional treatment, both local and the packaged touche ones. I remember spending 200k ( 3 months treatment) on one that swore on his life his expensive herbs will work,

I've used Therabreath Maximum strength mouthwash- costs abt 17k
I've used hyperbiotics pro dental - costs 20k.both did nothing..don't waste ur money, I have all sorts of expensive nasal sprays in case it's from my nose n CT scan didn't spot it.

I've spent over 600k+(no jokes) n still haven't seen anything dat will reduce this(not Remove o), a doctor's appointment costs 15k per session, I've visited d above listed on several consultations before moving to the next. I've done surgery, CT scan costs close to 100k. I've done series of testing n turns out I'm perfectly healthy.

Before you shout spiritual, I've done all sorts of prayer n fasting over the years..calm down.

As a last resort, I've booked for a tonsillectomy..cost about 300k n I'd inform if it works in ending this curse.

Y did I bother posting these? Someone in the near future will read this n b comforted, as I still benefited from old posts( some from 2008- some 12 years ago) on this platform.

I'd like to iterate it's important you do not make fun of people with this curse. All of us (I'm sure) get suicidal thoughts, some have committed suicide, we're lonely and alone, without friends, without family, without jobs most times..if u won't help, just keep walking, with your mouth closed of course.

Till my next Post. Stay kind.

Hi all..i notice this post is old..hard to believe wat people r going thru. i've read through pages of this section and i feel your pains, and that of everyone. i Had BB for 3 years and i found a cure 10days ago...so im gonna write a really long Post to help anyone facing the same, annoying suicidal halitosis.

I'm a perfectly healthy , very attractive guy, with impeccable oral hygiene, i normally brush after every meal and rinse with warm water, see the dentist regularly, natural ladies magnet.. sadly on Jan 2018, I woke up with morning breath, brushed my teeth, used mouthwash and went to the gym. noticed everyone was holding or rubbing their noses, and the taste of morning breath lingered..everything went downhill from there.
Fast forward 2 years later, i became a lonely, socially awkward anti-social guy, no friends, no girlfriends, no zeal to go out, no job (lost that too), no partying, can't even get groceries or goto the market, can't cut my hair cuz the bb starts coming from my nose this year..even with my mouth closed. The BB fills the entire area upto 15meters (50 feet), even in an outdoor scene. everyone in my area knew me has the guy with a terrible mouth odor. I had suicidal thoughts severally but i decided to keep fighting!.
Doctors and family will never help u, at least to note or monitor ur progress. They tell u ur breath is fine its all in ur head, i coudnt perceive the BB (ANNOYING) see a psychiatrist (i did at some point), but they hold their noses when u talk or turn their faces away..i always clear out the entire room in family gatherings! everyone leaves. I had a terrible sour/rotten taste in my mouth that never leaves, i tried EVERYTHING, every online remedy, spent 6 hours on google for 3 years till i opened every BB page on the planet, consulted several dentists, ENT , periodontist (who had me do a surgery to extract an impacted wisdom tooth) and GP in the best Hospital and clinics the country has to offer till i went broke and didnt have food to eat, it was expensive.

Breakthrough came when i stumble on H.pylori and intestinal worms talk online, read several research papers, raised funds to consult a GP who ended up laughing at my silly findings while holding his nose the entire time. i left his office and went to a Lab, did a blood test for H.pylori, came out positive. Googled medication (yea F** k the doctors!) and started self-medication.

Started dealing with intestinal worms for 3 days and felt better (positive energy kinda feeling), after which i started H.Pylori medication and that was it! on the second day, BB had disappeared!!! rotten sour taste had been replaced with a bitter taste (which is a side effect of H.plyori tipple therapy medication). 10 days after and i'm fine. went shopping for new clothes as i havnt had the morale to do so in 3 years, feeling fresh and fly, got a new haircut and gave out my old clothes to charity..emptied my wardrobe!
it takes a while to regain confidence as BB takes away every ounce of confidence u have, people who know u my act funny (taking precautions.. LOL) but they'll come around. Thank u all for sharing your experiences and your Contributions. today is 30/12/2020 and i'm the happiest man alive! Happy NEW YEAR IN ADVANCE.