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pu7pl3:
And TheKingIsHere Fisher is not the reason they haven't greenlit more Snyder verse movies...they are just being bone headed and proud corporate assholes

Fisher is one of the reason, that's what I said.

Don't twist words like fisher

pu7pl3:
Bro are you blind to the quotes? He was quoting what Ann sarnoff said in that interview with Variety, those were her words not his own..he is still strongly on the fact that Hamada was an enabler bro, he said those quotes by Sarnoff were "Tone deaf"... and like I said earlier, ofcourse the PI would be on WB's side

Bros, what are you saying?

Image 1 he accused Hamada of tampering with the investigation.

Image 2 he switched his words and said that Hamada " attempted" to interfere with the investigation. Isn't that change of words?

Also, you are saying that the PI will support the company but you have forgotten that the same PI said that Ray corporates well with the investigation and even Ray tweeted it.

So, why do you assume that the feedback that didn't favour Ray is because the PI will support the studio?

Take note that the same PI debunked WB claim that Ray wasn't supportive of the investigation?

Abeg, make una stop of this emotional argument jare

pu7pl3:
Did you even read the whole thread bro? How is this back tracking?

Omo na you dey fall hands guy...

Also check out the other interview on youtube and tell me what even suggests any backtracking there

You just claimed not too long that it's not Ray's tweet o.

Go and read what I just posted before this and see the back tracking

@pu7pl3 and all, here is evidence.

Image 1 - Ray Fisher claiming that WH interfered in the investigation

Image 2 - Ray Fisher dragging Hamada as usual just before the news broke out that Hamada never interfered with the investigation

Image 3. - Ray Fisher starts to back pedal saying that he never accused WH of interfering with the investigation which is a LIE as shown in image 1.

Image 4 - Ray Fisher softens his words against Hamada and confessed that Hamada didn't wrong him.

This is enough evidence to show my point against Ray.

Ray is the major reason why the Snyderverse is not greenlit because of his dubious ways.

FYI, I like Ray as Cyborg and want him to continue, but this is just evidence to show the difference between Boyega approach in handling the issue with Disney against Ray handling of the issue with WB.

Like I will always say, facts will defeat fiction/fantasy or emotional argument any time any day.

pu7pl3:
This is not Ray's tweet, I've never seen any tweet from Ray where he backpedalled bro

You just dey fall hand since you return from phantom zone o.

Oya, see again

pu7pl3:
Lol they hired the same PI? LMAO you sef reason am..who will the PI support?

Pu7pl3, why you dey fall my hand like this today? The PI investigator is total independent from coy and Ray.

Even after the news that the PI said that Hamada didn't interfered with the investigation, Ray Fisher back pedalled and tweeted recently that Walter Hamada didn't do him any wrong.

So, ask yourself, if WH didn't do anything wrong to him, why lie that he meddled with the investigation and drag his name in the mud?

FYI, Ray Fisher tweeted this himself after the investigator said that WH never interfere with the investigation

Minemrys:
because boyega kept quiet doesn't mean fisher would or should. And the fact boyega kept quiet is prove disney handled the situati0n better than wb. Besides, boyega is nigerian, nigerians aren't kn0wn for activism that much [this is me trolling boyega] Disney effs up, but they've d0ne m0re g0od to the star warz franchise than bad. Wb on the other hand has failed dc time without number. I mean, how does any0ne n0t have a clear plan on what they want for a franchise. The plan for MOS was to make it stand al0ne till they changed their mind to bring in batman. Then after a bvs they botched, they still did same to jl. I mean, who are wb pandering to? Critics? Dude, i have never l0oked at review b4 i go for a film. I didn't care abt reviews b4 watching 84. Wb never had a plan, if they had one, they w0n't have hired snyder. It was cos they wanted to hasten a superman film to prevent a lawsuit that they hired snyder and goyer. After avengers did numberz, they hastened bvs. Forgetting that proper time would be needed to tell a story introducing these characters yet wb didn't have the guts to make it hours l0ng if they couldn't plan the cinematic universe well.

Oga, Boyega didn't keep quiet. He spoke out that's one of the reasons why Ray came out too.

Bottega complained about how disney treated him and his character in star wars.

But Boyega was smart about how he went about his complaint. He didn't mention any names of execs.

Unlike Ray that kept quiet for close to 4 years until when the snyder cut was green lit before he started misbehaving.

FYI, I supported Ray from the start but when I saw that he wasn't smart with the approach, I knew he shot himself on the foot

pu7pl3:
How do you know it was false? Cos sarnoff says it's false?

The private investigator hired by both Ray and WB said it was false.

pu7pl3:
Guy e no blend well anything...that potrayal was/is a total wack job, sadly it's going to continue

FYI, doom patrol is meant to be wacky.

pu7pl3:
Bruh, Ray's attitude is not terrible..he was wronged and he is speaking out, stop making it seem like he is the villain here...

You guys also said no top studio would want Zack Snyder, no be talk be that bro

So, because Ray was wronged he should go ahead and wrong hamada by saying that hamada interfered with the investigation which was false?

When has two wrongs ever made a right?

pu7pl3:
Cyborg has never been seen as a freak bro...Cyborg is one of the coolest superheroes ever created

The reason why cyborg hates his father is because he sees himself as a freak.

Minemrys:
you see, that's why we say the show didn't get cyborg right. And that's cos they tried to force him in.

They didn't force him in, it blended well imo

Minemrys:
but fox were able to keep the x men going for 17 yearz. They gave you x men, x 2, first class, the wolverine, logan, days of future past without delays or development hell or having 2 visi0ns jumbled. Universal only had 2 hulk films and yes they still own the rights to hulk but can't make a m0vie n0w cause of mcu. Wb on the other hand can't maintain the dceu for 4 yearz without l0osing track. Universal kept the fast n furious franchise going without reb0oting even after t0kyo drift. Bros, wb na wash.

Fox did x-men for 17 years and ended up making a ridicule of it.

It's so funny that you are talking about fast and furious when WB has Lord of the rings.
Till date, LOTR is the only movie that got 11 oscar nominations and won all 11.

You think that's beans abi?

WB has huge successful franchises: LORT franchise, harry potter franchise, conjuring franchise, monster verse franchise and are already delving into the gaming-movie franchise and here you are yarning OP.

Abeg, park well.

Minemrys:
if that's what u call toxic, then i am tired of this your argument. I can see your point is clouded in riddles. You never were for the snyder visi0n. U just d0n't want to say it out.
People do stupid things especially on the media. They do it to act funny, express themselves or for publicity. You talking abt toxic fans i was thinking it was physically c0nfr0nting the execs or burning their properties or s0mething. Dude, i doubt you are into business, if u are you would kn0w there's n0thing like toxic cust0mer or client. Once a client isn't happy, they would let you kn0w. S0me are c0nsiderate abt how they say it, otherz believe it's their m0ney or time g0ne to the drain and they would be m0re loud. You can't tell s0me0ne n0t happy abt s0mething they were sold that they are toxic. It's like u saying the endsars protesters or those agitating for a better nigeria are toxic just for creating memes of politicians who are effing up.

So, a picture of wonder woman holding WB execs severed head is not toxic to you abi?

Ogbeni, go and sleep

Minemrys:
i w0n't castigate disney, cos no matter how they eff up, they kn0w how to please their publics. They have a goal, and they get their publics to share in them. L0ok how they handled spiderman or how they brought in the mandalorian. They are pro active n0t reactive. They're doing s0mething right that's why u d0n't see mcu fans or star fans attacking their execs.

Lol, if disney knew how to please their public, they wouldn't have the most toxic fandoms.

How did Disney handle Spiderman? I hope you're aware that disney wanted spiderman all for themselves but sony said no.

As for mandalorian, it is obvious you don't know what is happening with Gina that was fired recently that lead to the backlash.

As it stands, wb is the only studio that saved cinemas during a pandemic, but do you acknowledge that? No.

Disney told cinemas to fvck off until cinemark treated their Fvck up back.

See, you don't have a valid point.

If you think kissing disney azz will make you feel better about ur wb hate, that's ur headache

johnyace:
I don't and have never posted RT scores before, I don't depend on them to determine what I will watch.

Not all synderverse fans are toxic so her saying that wasn't really cool, I know some of them did appalling things like review bombing GvK and making horrible pictures which is not right and I will never support such.

I feel she shouldn't have commented on the state of the snyder verse to avoid shooting herself in the foot, because they once said stuff like the snyder cut didn't exist.

I am just wondering what did WB expect to happen after they released the snyder cut, because I don't want to believe that they released it without motive.

I'm not saying that you posted RT scores, rather there are many fans, snyder fans to be precise that posted RT scores of the snyder cut. If they're listening to RT scores and reviews, why shouldn't WB do same?

I agree with you that Ann shouldn't have made such comment just after the Snyder cut, but I won't be surprised if the interview was before the SC.

Right now, I expect WM to release the official numbers and subscription SC was able to pull. Maybe they're waiting for their next investor's meeting

pu7pl3:
If you're going to water down and destroy a character like that then don't use him at all, there are many other misfits they could have pulled from Doom patrol comics

Uxas was watered down, beaten like a puss,y and sent to Apokolps general hospital in snyder cut, I don't see you guys complaining o

Minemrys:
it would. But he'd be m0re similar to negative man. And the pattern the show went, it needed different pers0nalities. In essence, they should've used a diff character and n0t cyborg if they hadn't a plan to m0ve cyborg to titans. Cyborg doesn't fit DP altogether.

Cyborg is seen as a freak, doom patrol is about freak superheroes. So, how won't cyborg fit?

Minemrys:
my man! You said my mind. Universal or li0nsgate w0n't be as messed up as wb with dc characterz. Or even fox then. WB are t0o negative inclined. Check the films that have been in development hell, wb has the highest percentage.

The same universal that owns hulk and few other marvel characters and still don't know what to do with them that disney has to step in?

Even fox studios were so confused that they kept on messing up their x-men movies till they finally gave up.

You just like to dey misyarn sha.

Minemrys:
oga, na wash. If wb had stick to a focus fr0m the beginning, be it snyder's or s0me0ne else's, there w0n't be this agitati0n, bros. D0n't insult fans by using the word toxic. When a c0mpany fails its publics, you are bound to see agitati0n or grievances. It is PR 101 and you can't manage the problem by tagging any0ne toxic. Yes, there are those that go overboard and do stupid things, but if there weren't eff ups or c0ntroversies early on, there w0n't be people going overboard.

If I tell you that Disney has the most toxic fandom (Star wars and MCU(spider man to be precise)) will you believe? .

This is despite the fact that their exec is yet to call them toxic, they are still the most toxic. But I don't see you castigating disney

TheKingIsHere:
Don't mind minemrys and co.

I will get the picture of the picture a fan drew of wonder woman holding a decapitated head of WB execs. Let them come and explain how that isn't toxic

It's been deleted from the net but I know I saved it on one of my systems.

Minemrys:
oga, na wash. If wb had stick to a focus fr0m the beginning, be it snyder's or s0me0ne else's, there w0n't be this agitati0n, bros. D0n't insult fans by using the word toxic. When a c0mpany fails its publics, you are bound to see agitati0n or grievances. It is PR 101 and you can't manage the problem by tagging any0ne toxic. Yes, there are those that go overboard and do stupid things, but if there weren't eff ups or c0ntroversies early on, there w0n't be people going overboard. It's like with this rum0r that there's a black superman film in development. N0w, you haven't finished Kent's storyline, you are bringing in supergirl and black supes with no word on where or when Kent will return. Obviously, no one has heard anything abt Kent's fans or say s0mething like Kent's fans are toxic. But the minute the film is green lit and kent's story is relegated then you would start seeing 'toxic fans'. It's buying and selling, if a buyer aint happy, you d0n't say the buyer is bad. Bros, na business carry am c0me. No buyer would be nuts to go toxic if he loves what you are selling to him. It's just like, at the middle or after Winter soldier film, marvel went straight into making a film abt Wils0n as cap america and n0thing is heard abt steve rogers. There would be agitati0n. Just as people c0mplained or hate the current Cap america n0w while they are waiting for sam to take the mantle. Imagine marvel leave the current guy to be cap america all through the mcu.

You people don't know that WB is a company that is running to make profit.

Yes, the wronged Snyder by giving into critics, but are you guys not giving into the same critics today?

Disney stars wars has the record for most directors sacked but you won't see SW fans behaving childish like some fake snyder fans?

Disney treated Boyega like trash but did you see boyega calling out the names of disney executives and insulting them? This is the mistake Ray made and Ann and even Kilar has supported Hamada and even the private investigator stated that Hamada never interfered in the investigation (something that ray fisher accused him of falsely).

The same disney that shot mulan at concentration camps in china, yet you kept quiet.. If it was wb that did same, you would've come here to start complaining about how evil and clueless WB is.

You're just pained emotionally, get over it.

Learn how business works.

As it stands, no top studio will want to work with Ray fisher because of his terrible behavior and diva attitude

Treyknowles:
If this isn't Toxic behaviour, I don't know what is

Don't mind minemrys and co.

I will get the picture of the picture a fan drew of wonder woman holding a decapitated head of WB execs. Let them come and explain how that isn't toxic

Minemrys:
exactly. The fact it's a business means they owe m0re to their consumers. I d0n't blame thekingishere and abduleez1, i happened to have d0ne a course on PR back in my sch0ol days and i kn0w for sure wb effed in the area of PR. And management. So me ranting isn't just fanboyism al0ne.

You might have done PR but you don't know much about management. Trust me.

You keep shouting WB up and down when disney (which you praise) have done far worse.

Mention what WB did to Ray fisher that Disney didn't do to John Boyega? Disney even did worse to him, but I don't see you crying about it.

I talk based on facts, but you are talking based on emotions. If you are a wb fanboy that feels pained about what they did, get over it as other top studios have done far worse

johnyace:
In my opinion WB or Ann sarnoff doesn't have the right to call snyder verse fans toxic, they created the toxic environment at first with their lies, betrayals and paying attention to critics instead of the fans, it might have been business for them but they forget that people have emotions attached to these characters and fandom that they are messing with.

Which top studio doesn't tell lies?

You said that WB shouldn't have listened to critics, yet you guys were posting RT scores of the snyder cut as at last week. Doesn't that show that you guys pay attention to these critics as well? Is that not hypocrisy?

Also, I am in the Snyder cut fandom and push a lot for the snyder cut so I can fully tell you that there are toxic fans. Every fandom has it's toxic fans.

Ann has the right to call people toxic when fns drew a picture of wonder woman holding a decapitated Hamada head, and the heads of other wb execs. If that is not toxicity then what is?

Currently, some deluded people are reviewing bombing Godzilla vs Kong because Ann said she is not interested in continuing the snyder verse.

If you guys want to defend something do it constructively.

pu7pl3:
You can be both a DC and a Zack Snyder fan...once you go Zack you never go back, WB knows this

Wrong.

A lot of these people claiming to be Zack fans done even know half of his movies.

DC was the one that made Zack more prominent.

And Zack fans still support a lot of DC projects.

It's just the ones who derive pleasure from causing animosity that are the toxic ones.

Even among the Snyder fandom, there are a lot of fighting, selfish interests and betrayals

pu7pl3:
That big mouth have made soomany people love him(me included) they should keep him and make Cyborg relevant again like Zack did not that Doom patrol bastard

Make una calm down for doom patrol Cyborg na.

Doom patrol is a superhero flick with misfits as superheroes.

If we had Ray Fisher version of Cyborg, it won't fit the narrative

SMUAG:
Yeah. Just finished the first 3episodes.
Am not really into it for now, maybe more episodes I will.
Omni-Man is one pretentious badass superhero/villain.... I like him.

Omni man is a fake superhero that wants all the glory for himself.

But I was expecting Darkwing (Batman rip-off) to be smart and survive that issh.

You guys should go and watch Invincibles Season 1 (Another DC rip-off)

pu7pl3:
Seun put me and all my alternates in the phantom zone and teleported it to another dimension, only this account could escape and make it out...Saw the beauty that was ZSJL and now I've officially joined the Snyder bandwagon...#RestoreTheSnyderVerse has me as a dedicated foot soldier now...I also want other movies but we the fans need that closure, Zack should be allowed to complete his vision especially after that "ready the armada, we will use the old ways" line and freaking MMH hiding in plain sight all these years...
If they are really greedy people at WB then they would capitalize on this opportunity and give the fans what they want while also doing what they want us to want like Krypto, Supergirl and the rest...after all it's a multiverse now, we have freaking Keaton returning as Batman and the Flash also messing around with the TL so WB please

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Welcome back bro. Funny thing is that seun is a DC fan.

Make Superman no come send you back to the phantom zone sha.

Why always the Indian guys? Even Zack fear small

abduleez1:
Ah swear....we feasting good this year.

Prepping for tha real Banger next week.

GvK is doing great numbers in China already. $16 million opening day.

Estimated $166 million on total run in China.

I read that it made $21m on it's Friday opening day