₦airaland Forum

MrBrownJay1:
those Indians have always had very little respect for women.... so the husband was forcefully raping his wife in the ANUS, thus why they are referring to such sex as "unnatural sex" lol!

h0rny bastard married devil!

Really, are you aware most gods worshipped in indian are "female"

If you understand the concept of marriage two shall become "ONE" you will know rape in marriage is not tenable

Komo4dmoney:
It is not hunger that made them steal, they steal because they're thieves. They're employed for God's sake, so why putting the blame on poverty and hunger?

Employment does not negate under-paid, and zero welfare packages

So many workers in Nigeria are broke even before the end of the month cos of the cost of living ... with the fuel scarcity and hike in transport fare over 60% of workers will be broke before the middle of this month... reality bro
stealing 1300 bread every week is 9100, in a month 36400, that is not enough to enrich anybody in life so it as to be Hunger

thrillionaire:
This is why I said you should ask the boss when you see him what influenced his decision to take his workers to court. And until we know all the facts you can't say he's wicked.

Poverty or covetousness is nobody's business, it's your responsibility to straighten out yourself. Do the crime, do the time.

We don't know if the business owner had done everything right by those workers not to steal.. allowances, daily free bread etc

He's not the wicked one here for his actions. It's his prerogative on how he chooses to get even within the armbit of the law.

i know that foodco branch, i've being there several times to buy the bread ... i don't need to meet the Boss to know what greatly influence his reaction ... Wealth, power and connection are very intoxicating

Don't get me wrong, I am not encouraging or supporting "stealing" My stand is cutting off the head is not a medication for headache

Poverty & covetousness are nobody's business, But as a boss, the welfare of your staff is your business becos your business needs their best/efficiency

Let us not fool ourselves, a worker well paid, and also entitled to daily free bread has no reason to steal bread, What is the rationale he fit go steal milo & milk or mayonnaise but not bread

That boss is wicked cos he over reacted not becos he reacted, highest sack them is that not deterrence enough .. whu go like lose their job on top 1300 bread

Poor man wey steal maggi we go see their face for crime fighter ..

ONNYX:
A crime is a crime no matter how you look at it. I operate a small bakery on the side.

You make an average of 5 - 10k per bag of flour and if you are lucky you get to produce 5 bags daily consistently. Bigger bakeries make even less margins per bag but make up with turnover.

You have perhaps 5 - 10 staff depending on the structure of your operation.

The Assumptions continue;

You produce 500 loaves of bread a day (quite unlikely for a small bakery). Each loaf sells for 1,300.00 ex-factory.

1,300 x 500 = 650k (Projected revenue)

You have a 2.5 margin for defects, errors, returned products and quality control/R&.

16,250 already set aside for projected in factory losses.

650 -16,250 = 633,750

16,250 x 30 working days = 487, 500.00


487,500 x 12 months.........5,850,000.

This is just a rough estimate of what you can loose in one year from just being sentimental.

I've been building and advising bakeries large bakeries and food businesses for several years and I can tell for free...the easiest place to get a job in Nigeria is a bakery. Running on the same corollary one of the easiest business that fail are bakeries.

Even with digital cameras mounted everywhere you will lose bread unless you have a system which is carefully developed to suit your prevailing circumstances.

Bread can be eaten in toilets where there are no cameras.

Bread will be eaten underneath the work table and cameras won't catch them.

Bread is melted in the mouth without munching during packaging.

Bread is left in pans and rolled of of the oven.....in collaboration.

The step taken here should not be trivialised. The man is saving his business. He will take the boys there.....keep them in custody for at least 3 weeks and then withdraw the case.

His productivity will rise after he has asked for written and signed commitment from all staff that anyone who will be caught subsequently will be shown absolutely no mercy.

That should give him some respite.

Finally, those of you who have no business whatsoever and by business I.mean an operation that runs in your absence pls be careful and perhaps reticent about what judging people by their reactions because you never know the predicating actions.

Small causes...Great effects.

I am a Bread fan, infact i drive down to bakeries to buy fresh hot bread these as got me acquinted with bakery owners & workers.
Oga i followed your analysis and i can tell you are not being fully sincerely ... in Nigeria bakery there is no waste, what you called oven defect is what we call "Open pan" infact when i was small we go to bakery to demand for oven defect, and reservations as to be made sef, we pay
So all that defect cost and estimate are not really tenable.

You said, workers hide inside toilet, under table, and do all sort to eat bread they labor to produce ... how about if those workers are entitled to one bread per day won't that solve all that worries.
You pay people peanuts but you are ready to spends millions to monitor them ... is that not penny wise pounds foolish.

I am not supporting stealing or whatsoever, my view is as a boss don't give your workers a reason to steal esp. food
As a boss that money budgeted for police and court cases use it to implement welfare package n watch your staffs give there best

thrillionaire:
You can not justify their actions. Also you can not try to tell the boss how best to punish his thieving workers. It's his prerogative. And when you see him, ask him why he's chosen to take them to court, you might understand better and not call him wicked.

If you've tried to build a business before in Nigeria and encountered stealing by your trusted staff then you'd understand.

why will two full grown men steal a loaf of bread if not hunger or coveteousness ... 2600 can't enrich anybody naw
Rooting for the cause of an action is never a Justification, it how reasonable people know how best to address a situation.

Maybe i can't decide how foodco would punish is staff but i will ask ... if his staff were properly paid or cared for, they won't stoop so low to stealing bread ... as a worker in the bakery[b] if they were entitle to one bread as food per day will they steal.[/b]...
We have so many laws and Prisons but it as never stopped crime, sometimes all you just have to do his give people a reason not to . if my staff are entitle to one bread per day ... what reason we dey have to steal bread. e go quick taya dem one day

These is not a matter of if you have business or if you encounter crap, foodco had option to sack, suspend or deduct in there salary .. thats deterrence enough
Automatically these guys are sacked and salary will be withheld ... yet they will have to be looking for thousands of naira to bail themselves, when they come out they could be filled with rage or the prison could have hardened them badly. implications

SpecialAdviser:
It's really a shame. I didn't initially believe that story. APC is mad aswear down.

How can Lagos deport even Yorubas? Shame

The news remains unverified, however is Lagos not over congested, is it healthy for the security and welfare of the state

Same people that alleged Lagos govt are tribalist are now asking how can a tribalist deport yorubas .. justice is blindfolded for a reason

thrillionaire:
Why steal? This is how they wreck people's businesses and enrich themselves. From two loaves they'll perfect ways to steal more as the opportunity arises.

If the job doesn't pay well, resign and go look for a better one. Someone creates employment and gives you a means to eke a living but your evil heart wants to kill the business. Why?!!!

And if you dare owe these same thieves salary even for a day, they'll revolt.

The boss may spend a lot of money prosecuting the case but I know he just wants to reach them a bitter lesson.

If what two adults can steal is two loaves of bread then it is clear hunger or covetousness pushed them to it,
however, the boss is the wicked soul here if you want to serve a deterrence;

he can suspense them for days plus a deduction in salary ... thats ok
.

pocohantas:
Women sabi hide update, but I created a thread documenting my journey, still shared my Upwork note on this same Nairaland. What have you a man done, aside opening a redpill pharmacy on Nairaland?

Some of you talk without reasoning because you keep trying to burden another person with the task of showing you way.

Since you know how women are, how about you take the mantle? Last time I checked, you are a man and men are logical.

Hello!

I don't talk to Nairalanders offline, Sir.

Na weytin i know like to dey hear be these, cominf from someone a man sired her interest in remote work, all the lessons and guide came from who ?

On these same NL thread, how many bitches have a page on investment thread even the kitchen thread brotherwood ti take over ... olodo

Believeintruth:
Show us naaaa

You are the one alleging the Ministered lied, he who alleges must prove.

OvertheTop:
WOW! are you for Real.....
Technology has Improved be That....

Where can i get the Dish and the Materials to Buy?
Thanks for the info

If you are in Lagos, you can visit Alaba int'l find where they sell dish & accessories ...

all you need, Decoder, Dish, LNB and wire. you can find an installer in your environment

Believeintruth:
oya show us naaaa. stop being a ludite

Are you not the one discrediting what the minister said, provide facts to back it up naw show us GDP of those better cities you listed

Believeintruth:
Oga so in your illusionary madness you think Lagos is bigger than these cities? Oga go and rest stop living in denial.

ogbeni ofcus, i know you wil want to shift the post, it either Lagos GDP vs those cities you claim are bigger GDP .. or bounds

jmoore:
What monopoly do they have? You can watch BBC, Football, documentaries, movies on startimes and other platforms.

I think some Nigerians are only obsessed with DSTV. There are many alternatives.

C'mon don't patronize me, you know the monopoly we are talking about ... once upon a time HiTv broke dstv back ... i remember how useless dstv was when Hitv succeeded in collecting Premier league Tv right then ... infact dstv were gentle and begging subscribers with telemarketing

Nigerians are obsessed with Dstv cos Dstv ensure they have exclusive rights to contents Nigeria wants to see ..

There are pretty alternatives but average Nigerians are not enlighten enough, IPTV , andriod box, smart tv and satellite are deemed to be for the rich & much expose minds.
what Nigerian don't understand they don't wana try or rack there heads

OvertheTop:
Ok, i Agree about the Few Minutes Glitches. i can Manage

But, As a Tenant, Can I install the Dish in my Landlords compound?
How much is the cost Estimate of the Total MATERIALS I NEED + INSTALLATION?

Bro we are talking about a 60cm or 90cm dish here same as those dstv dish you mount, it might surprise you i did the installation myself, its not even my job ...i just watch some DIY videos on youtube and i did it myself.
I had almost all material when i re-installed, however budget 50k.

my decoder is 32k but there are even cheaper ones for 20k, viewsat decoder & co.

15k go cover dish and LNB

Wire and who go install can take up to 15k tthat'sall up to you.

OvertheTop:
You wonder why people cant Switch?
The answer is in your Story: 300k+
and also
1. is Free to Air a stable Alternative? (I hear it goes of and On for long periods) kindly share your Experience
2. I hear it involves Massive Dishes. That means it can only be installed in YOUR Property or BUILDING. it can't work for Tenants
3. it too Capital intensive

am i right from your experience?

The dstv you pay so much for, does it not have glitches, are there no times you are watching football and the station freezes or an error appear or Do i need remind you when rain falls the almighty Dstv blank out showing E32

If nigerians after paying so can tolerate lapses from dstv why should few minute disruption on a free to Air bother me ..

i have being watching cable/free2air over 30yrs, thrash all those things you heard ... with just one dish you can track three different satelite providers ... naa LNBs you go just buy

jmoore:
You can watch only NTA for free. They didn't force guns on your head to subscribe.

It is DSTV that will approve minimum wage for your country?

The diesel they use to run their company in Nigeria is ten times cheaper than in Southafrica?

Kenya even pays more for DSTV subscription than Nigeria.

Maybe dstv is not pointing guns to our head But they are definitely enforcing "Monopoly" and using outright exclusive to shut out other competitors.
Dstv won't determine minimum wage but they should pick a lane, they are free to pick the rich But PAVE WAY for those that want to creat service for the poor .. emphasis on that

After struggling to pay exorbitant subscription, do dstv know how much subscribers spend on fueling just to enjoy what they paid for, whats even more annoying is the old movies & how much they repeat programs, asides football dstv is overrated

Dstv might be more expensive in Kenya or anywhere but do they have the monopoly like in Nigeria.

UAE123:
Please it is not by force to stay in Lagos and be living in unhygienic condition. Be in your state and try to do something useful to yourself. It's like Lagos is really facing accommodation issues.

PEOPLE will always migrate to where there are opportunities, do something useful it still highly dependent on an enabling environment .. thats key

Asides Lagos, most states in Nigeria are dry and have low opportunities for the youths

There are some businesses you can't even setup in some state another limitation unlike Lagos

pocohantas:
NL no dey quick bring update. That is why I love Twitter. His secondary school mates are speaking up and they are pissed that his family is called old money. Say shishi them no get and dude was a bully. I am angry at Wofai sef. The guy no fine and I am sure asides being a "Cole", he has nothing much to his name.

Na wetin dey pain me for grown hardworking women be this. Look at all the drama. Wofai that has zero scandal in all her entertainment years is now being accused of runs by NL dregs. If you want to be a gold-digger, do a good job. Radarada!

mmmh ! 🤭 🤭

BigDawsNet:
At this level... will you invest in Nigeria if you have the financial resources?

where will you now invest, go check what uk did to Abrammovic of chelsea or is it US ... na when you get problem you go know No place like home

Believeintruth:
Bros are you a shape shifter, why are you shifting goal post, which advance country states was Lagos compared with? No be the same African cities we are comparing with Lagos? Or have you at last admitted that Lagos is no where compared to the likes of Cape Town, Windhoek, Casablanca, Rabat, Nairobi, Pretoria, Alexandria and Cairo.

Now we are making progress, those states you mention can you back it up with there actual GDP (facts only) .. so we can know where lagos stands

LadyRosa:
Unfortunately for you, I'm currently nursing a third.
You better start praying for your unfortunate sisters with white hairs already growing an amazon forest on their puzzies, yet unmarried, and without even a goat to leave behind when they die of depression.

i don't have sisters

LadyRosa:


If you rush in, you will be rushed or dragged out.
Marriage should no be a parlour party.

When I was under pressure to marry, I almost made a terrible mistake of marrying someone. Thanks to my Godmother, who stood her ground and vowed the marriage will not happen.

thanks to your godmother you are still single and seriously searching

Believeintruth:
Why did the commissioner say that Lagos is the 7th economy in Africa, which he is also comparing countries to Lagos as well.

Hate beclouds common sense how much more discretion, if lagos gdp is listed among countries where will Nigeria be on the list .. think naw, discretion no cost

What the commissioner said is not wrong "Base" on context, lagos is a state so who ever wants to challenge or discredit the statement should handpick 10 states in Africa with higher GDP than lagos ...

Believeintruth:
This statement doesn't even negate the fact that outside Nigeria Lagos no follow at all.

its dumb to handpick lagos and be comparing it to developed states advance countries .. o wrong

Use states in west africa, even in the whole Africa can you list 10 mega city and not mention lagos ... u fit try

DMerciful:
You just jump into a thread without reading the history.

I was responding to the attached, tell me how Lagos is better.

roads, electricity, enabling business enviromment, security are all evidences that connote mega city

if you are asking how lagos is better, then you must mention one state deemed mega city than lagos

DMerciful:
Mention where Lagos is different

How many state can boast of Lagos IGR

How many states in Nigeria have two functional seaport

How many states in Nigeria has given more livelihood to Nigerians than Lagos

Which state in Nigeria is more cosmopolitan than Lagos

Which state in Nigeria can boast of synergy & continuity like lagos govt

which state takes care of her public workers welfare more than Lagos

If Lagos is not different, your definition must be wrong

MEEVEET:
Lagos wont even come top 10 don't even go there

why not mention the top 10 states in africa that beats lagos

helinues:
How much GDP has Lagos grown since the FIF abi Fiji did their last report.

Egypt and South Africa are not doing economically well at the moment

Even you don't know S.A and Egypt are mismatch for comparism with a state .. did Lagos become country overnight

vanbonattel:
It beats my imagination why a particular people can just exist for the sole aim of beating their dry chests to make them feel better, even when hunger is removing their wrapper from their waist.

Lagos is not better than any state in Nigeria, no better roads, no better electricity, no better business climate, no better quality of living or security, but some people exist in this world by hyping the city, even to the point of telling bare faced lies to make them sleep better at night.

Online, everyone who is from there who are ashamed of their states will claim Lagos, because of the online hype, the lies and the vain attempts to rub it in everyone's face that the place is better.

The commissioner did what every other person from there does, BOAST ON EMPTY STOMACH.

Children of hate are being to lose every sense organ due to incessant wailing

whats even more shamefull is these 3rd class dunces don't know when to stop

How can someone use Countries GDP to discredit a state GDP, since when did Egypt, ghana, angola, south africa , tanzania become a state ... yet you see people jumping on it and reacting like buffons, as long as the news suite their preset mind they throw senses away

Akalia:
You see everything from the prism of myopic subjective view point. Be objective-look at the bigger picture; the project is not super expedient to the majority of the populace.
It can wait or even be shoved up entirely while the budget earmarked for it should be channeled to areas that promote human capital development.

why are you all so disturbed about these project, does it stop govt from paying workers salaries or what does it deny Nigerians

All these years they don dey channel funds to human capital development what did we see or gain, even the N power what do we make of it.

Whether govt build costal road or not should not be a national discuss when fuel scarcity and naira free fall are biting harder on Nigerians

atiku4President:
The trouble inherent in that project are too numerous to mention just as the problems associated with same will touch everyone. Obi is right after all. All those who come here to support this government of misplaced priority are evil and deluded.

Of what economical benefit is dstv to Nigerians compared to a costal road

How can a road network that will fasten distribution and connection be a misplaced priority ... Peter obi and his supporters are dunces incapable of seeing beyond there nose ... roads have great impact on prices of good and the ease of doing business but how will 3rd geng know

Faiththatworks:
I was at the Dangote Refinery this week,about 1000 tankers waiting to load petroleum products,I don't believe all those tankers were there to load Diesel or Aviation Fuel.The same can be said of Apapa, tankers are lined up for close to 5km waiting to load
Something is going on and the Government needs to set up an intervention team,I asked an insider when we will get fuel in Lagos,his answer was doubled edged,the owners of petrol stations are diverting fuel to areas where they can sell for higher prices

This fuel problem I am sure will not go anytime soon because this is economic sabotage by some greedy individuals

That is correct bro, i was close the filling station in area way back 015,
Most of those major marketers filling stations on the highway have a subsidiary station inside street/ close area when there is national scarcity they diverted there supply to those subsidiaries to sell at high price why the major stations on the high way remain close .. it something i witness 1st hand

The major marketers are the priority list of NNPC in time of scarcity .. but they sabotage all for greed ... we are our own problem in these country those we think govt is the whole problem are on kolo