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Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 5:24pm On Dec 16, 2025
gohf:
Dan.7.10 - 11
and a river of fire flowed from his presence. Millions of angels ministered to him, and a hundred million stood to attend him. Then the court began its session, and the books were opened. I continued to watch because I could hear the little horn's boastful speech. I kept watching until the fourth beast was killed and its body was destroyed by fire.

Thinkmoney if Jesus was using "Gehenna" what was Daniel using here?
You are obviously not a good Bible student.
Daniels vision (or dream) like Joseph’s, Isaiah’s, Ezekiel’s and Johns all use animal or some bizarre looking creatures to represent things.
7 cows represents seven years in Joseph’s case. It’s noteworthy however, that the creatures in Daniel, Ezekiel and Johns visions are similar. They represents things that will happen in the last days.
The creatures, things and event in this visions represents things and ideas. The Angel explained to Daniel that the animals are kingdoms (like I explained the creature at Revelation to that it represents political powers of the earth). The Angel didn’t explain the fire from Gods throne. However, putting Bible together one will come to the conclusion that the fire represents destructive power of God to bring judgement to erring nations and power, both physical and spiritual.
The fire coming out of the throne like the lake of fire in Revelation is used to pass judgement. It’s used to destroy and bring to nonexistence.
“Our God will come and cannot remain silent.
Before him is a consuming fire,
And a great storm rages all around him.” Psalm 50:3.

Our God will come and cannot remain silent.
Before him is a consuming fire,
And a great storm rages all around him.

Fire goes before him
And consumes his adversaries on every side. Psalm 97:3.

This fire represents the destructive ability of God and his capability to render judgement.

I will give you an example from that same passage in Daniel. The four beast represents four world powers that will still come after Daniel.
We have had Babylon, Greece, Rome and now we are in the last one -Anglo-Saxon- power. It will soon get divided into several powers. We are entering that phase of multipolar world where China is coming up, India too, Russia and several others.
These other powers that have gone were burned by the fire. They were made to cease to exist. But if you are a good student of history, you will know that Babylon, Rome, and Greece where in no time burned by a big inferno that destroyed them and they are not in any hell.
But they have met there end. They have been consumed by the fire from God.
The serving political powers today represented by the beast, the false prophet, Devil himself, sinners, grave and death will soon be destroyed as it where by this fire of God [or from God]. They will all go into non-existence
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 4:58pm On Dec 16, 2025
gohf:
guy you know deceivers like jam-talk, which is what you are doing here
Lake of fire being the second death, is not a metaphor, a description/definition/explanation is not a metaphor. Just look at the bunch of IRRELEVANT volumous twarp you, all you have had to do WAS TO SHOW HOW IT'S A METAPHOR AND STATE IT'S DIFFERENT MEANING.

At least have the shame to admit you were wrong. THERE WAS NOT ONE THING YOU WROTE THERE THAT CLEARLY ADDRESSES THE SUBJECT OF CONVERSATION, lake of fire being a metaphor, I don't care about wild beasts or bush fowls, don't care about anything else that you do not relate to the lake of fire being a metaphor and not a literally place they get thrown into like you original stated
Maybe I don’t know the meaning of metaphor. Because I don’t understand this fuss.
Ok, what I mean all the while is that the lake of fire is not a literal burning fire, it’s an analogy to represent things coming to an end- being put out of existence. Bad people, the beast, Satan, death, grave all get thrown into this FIGURATIVE lake of fire, which means SECOND DEATH.
So if you will continue making fuss and keep saying the lake is a literal fire then fare there well bro. I don try for you.
If your head block others are not that irredeemable.
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 2:33pm On Dec 16, 2025
gohf:
Thinkmoney and who ever agreed with that fallacious reasoning are funny o

Someone writes a text describing a place or an end result, and you call it a metaphor but can't give us the metaphorically meaning of "lake of fire" in context

Not mentioning Daniel, let's quote from Revelation

Rev.19.20 And the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who did mighty miracles on behalf of the beast--miracles that deceived all who had accepted the mark of the beast and who worshiped his statue. Both the beast and his false prophet were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur.


Rev.20.9 - 15
And I saw them as they went up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded God's people and the beloved city. But fire from heaven came down on the attacking armies and consumed them. Then the Devil, who betrayed them, was thrown into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur, joining the beast and the false prophet. There they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. And I saw a great white throne, and I saw the one who was sitting on it. The earth and sky fled from his presence, but they found no place to hide. I saw the dead, both great and small, standing before God's throne. And the books were opened, including the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to the things written in the books, according to what they had done. The sea gave up the dead in it, and death and the grave gave up the dead in them. They were all judged according to their deeds. And death and the grave were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death--the lake of fire.
And anyone whose name was not found recorded in the Book of Life was thrown into the lake of fire.


Rev.21.8 - But cowards who turn away from me, and unbelievers, and the corrupt, and murderers, and the immoral, and those who practice witchcraft, and idol worshipers, and all liars--their doom is in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death."

So an English author telling a story says the good guys go to US and the bad guys to 9ja, but to you the "9ja" here is metaphorical... ah God 🤦‍♂️
It’s important for you to know that Christians have some fundamental general assumptions about the meaning of things, but if you understand the Bible really, you will know that these popular assumptions might be wrong. The Bible prophesied that in our days, deceivers will come out deceiving MANY. It advised that he that think he stands should do a reassessment.

You have to have the calmness and condition of mind to listen to things that are radically different from what you have known.



*First the beast there is not even a literal beast. It’s an imaginary animal that is used to describe the Worldwide political system. It rules over “every tribe and people and tongue and nation,” so it is greater than a single national government.
This shows how the political set up of the world, it’s leaders were used to do Satans bidding. So you see that in consistence with the metaphoric value of Revelation, the wild beast isn’t just a literal entity, but an animal that symbolizes a system.

*The false prophet too, isn't just an individual, but it represents individuals and organizations that skillfully teach people things that take them away from God or make them question God. The theory of evolution and its proponents that many nations of the world have embraced to explain the existence and essence of things may fall into this category.

*you see how the “sky and earth” fled before the great throne. Does earth have leg to run? Does sky have wings to fly away? Again in that Revelation 20:9-15; “death and grave” were thrown into the lake of. Can death and grace be handled? Isn’t this a pointer to the fact that many of thing are allegorical? How do you burn grave and death in a literal lake of fire?

What’s this lake of fire?

*There was an actual lake of fire that sulfur was added to constantly in the time of Christ and the Apostles.
There was a valley just outside the big walls of Jerusalem. It was a huge dump site. Rubbish and sometimes criminals that have been executed that people deem not to deserve burial were thrown in to it to dispose off them. There was a fire that constantly burn at this site because sulfur was constantly poured on it. The name of this lake is Gehenna.
Sometimes when Jesus said things like “somebody that hate his brother will be throne into “hell”, the word the Bible translators of the Bible translate as hell is Gehenna. It’s that burning lake (valley) Jesus was using to describe the destruction such person will face. Jesus explicitly use Gehenna.
In this lake too, worms feast on the decomposing body. You can imagine the horror of the face. There apparently are some bodies that flies perch on and lay there maggots on. The Bible describe this maggots that they never die, that can mean you will always find them slithering on the decomposing corpse.

**what’s more? Revelation 21:8; explains what this lake of fire represent. I will quote your version. “their doom is in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. THIS IS THE SECOND DEATH." The lake represents the second death, which is the permanent death, a death without hope of resurrection. Permanent destruction and forfeiture of the gift of God that is eternal life (or forever existence). That is why death and grave too can be said to be thrown into this lake, because around that time that sinners are thrown into that figurative fire and made to cease to exist, death too will be no more. Nobody will die again and the use of graves will go extinct.

Yes, somebody can use USA and 9ja as two different things to show 2 contrasting realties. There can be a proverb in a place were somebody say things like “eh, David, we wey support APC na for America we dey live oh, the government are showing us a lot of favor, while you guys that are rebellious to Tinubu are the one living in 9ja. You are being deprived of several subsidies the government offers ( this is just an example you know, it’s not the exact description of things in Nigeria).
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 1:26pm On Dec 16, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
Where you not here in 2023? So you saw the fulfillment?

And the fulfillment of Revelations 16:12?

It is because you have not seen it happen is why you are holding on to metaphor, exactly how you people did before the prophecies started getting fulfilled.

"You cannot wake a person pretending to be asleep"
My brother, no be your post I dey look for for nairakand especially when I noticed is error filled.
Nobody in Nigeria is taking a mark yet
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 1:25pm On Dec 16, 2025
gohf:
at your imaginary point, I quoted NIV that had the correct translation which stated "made known" which I also wrote if you read it properly.

"Which one is it's not only fire" that me, wait it was you that brought up revelation 1:1 and whined incorrectly about me not responding to it. If YOU don't want to talk about rev. 1:1 then stop bringing it up
NIV too doesn’t translate a lot of places well. I can show you three more errors in NIV and I am sure you take time to verify things that are new to you.
Did NIV even use anything like signify ? It just went on and say “made it known”.
I can show you three more errors, one is even just a position of punctuation mark in a sentence. Yes, such subtle insignificant things can change the whole meaning of a message.
I don’t want to do it now as it will open more fronts. This one we are dealing with is already overwhelming. Do I am going to focus on replying to that your long comment
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 1:20pm On Dec 16, 2025
gohf:
dishonest? Is it not you who wrote this sentence
"Lake of fire in revelation was aptly used to show how those things and ideas- sinners, Devil and Death will be destroyed."....?

So where is the dishonesty you are accusing me of?
Well, I am not writing a thesis. I said things there, maybe I should say people and idea abi?
Just wait small let me find time to reply to that your long comment.
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 12:50pm On Dec 16, 2025
gohf:
bro a book containing metaphors isn't a metaphoric book but a book containing metaphors. I did not disregard anything like symbols being used in the book of revelation I only asked you to explain and tell us the metaphorically meaning of fire being used in Revelation 20 and 21.

Except you are saying EVERYTHING in that book is metaphoric ?

But if it you using the Greek word for signify to mean metaphoric I say bro claim down, John was not metaphorically spoken to by the angel, an angel was sent to signify and make known to him the things that will happen. Where symbols and metaphors used? Yes but was it all metaphoric and having different meanings than a literal interpretation NO.

Or you want to get into the conversation of what is the metaphorically meaning of those coming back to eternal life, since both souls, death, life etc are not material things
The message according to the Bible were given to him in signs or symbols. This must first be clear.
You at a point alleged there was no “signify” , symbolized or signs. You quoted from a translation that omitted those things entirely. You mocked.
I however showed you. So it’s not as if it’s only “fire” you have been talking about.
Still hold a moment let me reply that your Long comment.
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 12:45pm On Dec 16, 2025
gohf:
so it fire destroying not a literal application of fire?


so you want to claim I did not answer your revelation 1:1?

bro I don't know the point of you giving another example that clearly proves my point of a different meaning and you improperly stating that burning fire is a metaphor, meanwhile when asked you said it means destruction. Bro does burning fire mean creation before? That's why I am laughing.

Look at you calling sinners "AN IDEA" If I don't laugh should I cry
What are you so dishonest? Is it only sinners that were burnt there? Didn’t it say death? Is death a material thing?
Just wait a moment let me reply to that your long comment.
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 11:31am On Dec 16, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
They've always said that you people have short memories

https://www.nairaland.com/7549715/new-notes-scarcity-prophecy-hardness#120542942

That is why I create threads so that when you people pretend that you do not know, then boom a thread proves you knew
Na you make the post. I haven’t seen your post before and what is happening now isn’t the same has what is described in revelation.
No one is taken a literal 666 mark anywhere yet
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 11:28am On Dec 16, 2025
gohf:
tbh when I asked you for the word I meant the Greek word not the English translation

The word you think means signs in Greek is esēmanen

Which is to SIGNIFY and not for symbols and analogies, but to indicate, make known with clarity
You have some translations use symbolized, you have another use signs and you just interpret’signify’ like that?
Again you disregard the fact that the whole book now went ahead to support ‘symbolized’ by using things like lamb, fire, animals, eyes in the whole body, voices from a chair, mark of the beast, 7headed lion, some animal forms that is not in existence way more than any other Bible books to pass messages and give graphic meaning to things?

Doesn’t what the book contain proof “symbolized “ in the introductory verse of verse 1, accurate?
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 11:21am On Dec 16, 2025
gohf:
😂
Bro when I said you don't know what metaphors are, it's not by giving good example, because even after giving a good example of a metaphor with the breeze and the fowl, you still don't know what metaphors are.

Metaphors give a DIFFERENT MEANING to a text or phase. So what is the different meaning?

🤣 you know what you did here is like, oh I used fire to burn my books so the metaphoric meaning is I destroyed my books 😂😂🤣🤣
Metaphor

a figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to an object or action to which it is not literally applicable.
"when we speak of gene maps and gene mapping, we use a cartographic metaphor"
synonyms: figure of speech, figurative expression, image, trope, ALLEGORY, PARABLE, ANALOGY, comparison, SYMBOL.

I may stop chatting with you because it appears you are very insincere. I have showed you the real wording of revelation 1:1, you didn’t talk despite my effort bringing them up. You only come with that your stupid laughing emoji.

The good thing is that you are not the only one seeing our conversation, there are some sincere people and I am sure a light as been ignited in them.

Now this is another example of a metaphor;

He was a black hole, pulling everyone’s energy into his orbit.

This means the guy has a strong character that pulls everybody to him. So now if I must follow your irritating vexing logic, I can’t use “pull” again because “pull” have already been used in the metaphor?

Fire we know destroy things. Lake of fire in revelation was aptly used to show how those things and ideas- sinners, Devil and Death will be destroyed.
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 11:11am On Dec 16, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
You are the one who has been running everywhere in your bid to protect your fantasy and wish. For the post shows that I only reminded you of the revelations prophecies were thought to metaphors until they happened like the prophecy of hardness of buying and selling literal market transaction.(Revelation 13:17) which you saw came to pass even here in Nigeria

But because I have just reminded you of how literal the prophecy was, your delushun is borsted so you are just running away in shock and panic so that you can replace it again.

"Denial is a save now, pay later scheme."

"The worst lies are the lies we tell ourselves."
Why are you being smart by half?
Revelation 13:17
and that nobody can buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.

How is the event here same as what is happening in Nigeria now? Where are they collecting the mark before they buy things in Oshodi market?
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 11:03am On Dec 16, 2025
gohf:
Thinkmoney where art thou, come and shows u, from the metaphoric book of revelation, since because to you it's a metaphoric book therefore the fire mentioned inside is a metaphor maybe God mentioned inside to is also a metaphor
Calm now. I have replied you
Response is a whole work. It takes time sometimes
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 11:02am On Dec 16, 2025
gohf:
Bro do you even understand what metaphors are, no wonder you didn't understand my question

Lamb is a metaphor for Jesus, what is the fire, the burning fire a metaphor for?
For total destruction of death, sinners and Satan.
Death is cast in it you remember? Is death a material thing. Go and check your previous question about Revelation 1:1. I have given a detailed reply
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 11:00am On Dec 16, 2025
gohf:
you read me state in a "non-metaphoric sense"

This Rev.1:1 that you are hanging on like a monkey's rope is quite frankly sophistry in action

Rev.1.1 The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John,

Where did you fallaciously find and input the word signs from, which word there means symbols to you?

Jesus being referred to as a lamb was clearly in revelation and we can agree that the lamb is metaphoric but bro that's not the same with the author's use of FIRE when writing about it in Revelation 20 and 21
Ok good. You have reach the stage I was baiting you to reach. I appreciate you take out time to confirm things.
My brother though, if you are a Christian and you love God and take your salvation very important, you must learn to read and read and make researches. Devil since a long time ago has been fighting either to entirely destroy the Bible or muddle it up.
Our translators of the several many English versions we have either didn’t do a good job (in fact KJV is a translation from a translation) or some were mischievous and render the translation to subtly conform to their theology.

That part of the Bible like many other part isn’t properly translated in many English version. Now I will show you three version. That try as much as possible to offer a literal ‘word-for-words’ translation. You can go online to check Bible hub. Curiously too, you will need to go way down to see translation that offer this (this is for you to see that the fight against Gods word and it’s pure message is real).

REVELATION 1:1

Literal Standard Version
A revelation of Jesus Christ that God gave to Him to show to His servants what things must quickly come to pass; and He SIGNIFIED [it], having sent through His messenger to His servant John.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
The Revelation of Yeshua The Messiah, which God gave to him, to show his Servants what had been given to soon occur, and he SYMBOLIZED it when he sent by his Angel to his Servant Yohannan.

The New World Translation
A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent his angel and presented it in SIGNS through him to his slave John.

Hope to hear from you again
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 10:40am On Dec 16, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
This is you wishing to see it that way since it has not happened as you choose to forget that revelations also prophecied the "hardness of buying and selling" which was impossible to see in the 70''s and which you would have penned down to a metaphor.

You are just saying exactly what atheists said about the revelations prophecies when they had not happened

And that is why I said you are speaking from your wishes
Ok, I don’t even know what you are saying again. You have taken me to several places today. Only you
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 10:39am On Dec 16, 2025
gohf:
bro feel free to show us the metaphoric usage of the phrase burning with fire

Maybe you think everyone is gullible and uneducated, so go ahead and explain your metaphorical usage of the phrase
But how many times do I have to answer you? I have told you that Revelation is a book of metaphor, it said it itself. In verse 1 ( the introductory verse) it said the things in it are given as SYMBOLS showing things that must happen in the future. That’s why you have Jesus represented has a lamb at some place. Was Jesus ever turned into Lamb? No! It’s a metaphor to represent his sacrificial value.
Now in that same lake of fire, Death was thrown in there? Is death a material thing you can lay hold of ? No! The lake is a metaphor that shows the destruction of not only death, but Satan and sinners too.
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 10:34am On Dec 16, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
He ran away from Truthseeker10 when he noticed that one is 100 times wiser than him he's been running away from me now he's looking for someone with whom he could prove intelligent. cheesy
Hmm. Nawa
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 10:34am On Dec 16, 2025
gohf:
lol is this really your answer? 🤣 to why you said a phrased used in revelation using literally Greek words in a non-metaphoric sense is metaphoric to you.

Guy we are in an age where such crappy reasoning cant be an excuse when you have search engines and AI. Do you take everyone reading your posts as fools?
You must check yourself if you are really teachable. So because a word is in Greek now it can’t be a metaphor? Isn’t breeze there in that proverbs too a word in a language?

And I went further to tell you that in that book of Revelation 1:1, it says things in it are given as symbols,( signs) to show what must happen in the future. That’s why you have at some point, Jesus represented by Lamb and some elders having animal future.
Is Jesus ever in a lamb form? Isn’t that metaphor to represent his sacrificial value?

Una go talk come put that Yeye laughing emoji without knowing that the joke is really on you people
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 10:28am On Dec 16, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
DeepSight is not honest with discussions like this he will continue to change the topic until you are worn out.🥴
Thank you jo

Na. Just love make me dey answer him still
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 10:27am On Dec 16, 2025
gohf:
you don't understand english? But isn't that the language you have been typing in since when you wrote

"that there is no literal burning"
"The metaphoric burning of sinners and ‘death’ is a future event telling of how sinners and death will be destroyed and cease to exist."

Bro how is the Greek term "kaiomene Puri" metaphoric?
I think I just answered you? The English term of “breeze” in the proverbs “breeze go blow and fowl yansh go open” is not talking about a literal breeze, but it’s a metaphor that means somethings will come to light. Though breeze in the proverbs is a English wird
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 10:25am On Dec 16, 2025
gohf:
Bro how does a Greek word which literally means fire not literally mean fire to you?
Let me answer. In the proverbs ; “breeze go blow and the fowl yansh will open”, is the breeze a literal breeze?
Now to help further. In the introductory verse of revelation, the very first verse, verse 1, it said plsinly that the messages there are given in signs-that is, they symbolize things that are to come.
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 10:21am On Dec 16, 2025
DeepSight:
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Step by step.

Please when Yahweh promised Canaan to Jews, was it because of child sacrifice which Yahweh himself tested Abraham with and which Yahweh himself claimed to practice with Jesus?

Admit it was not. There is a lot to discuss but start with basic honesty.
I am honest with you, but then I said it’s in part. But see here again in Genesis around the time of Abraham, see what God said then. Note this is about 300 years before the crusade to take over those lands.

“But they will return here in the fourth generation, because the error of the Amʹor·ites has not yet reached its full measure.”
Genesis 15:16.
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 10:18am On Dec 16, 2025
gohf:
bro said kaiomene Puri is metaphoric burning with fire, please metaphoric to what?
Ask your question very well please. Maybe you have to check what you typed again
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 10:17am On Dec 16, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
How do you say "no fire" yet you say what would happen, "would happen in the future" especially when what is causing the happening is to be by Fire?
You don’t know what metaphor means?
In Yoruba language for example, somebody might tell you, “don’t worry, continue you bad behavior of stealing, soon the breeze will blow and the bosom of the hen will be opened”. That’s a metaphor that telling you that;
*in the future your bad duds will be opened
*there will be no breeze or any gen. It’s just saying that symbolizes making your secrets come to light.

So the fire in revelation is metaphorical, pointing to when in the future, bad people, the devil and death will be made to cease to exist.

Must I really teach you like this… like you are some kindergarten kid?
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 10:11am On Dec 16, 2025
DeepSight:
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If you are serious and sincere I would not mind having a serious and sincere conversation.
Perhaps start with admitting the issue of the "promised land" not being about anyone's child sacrifices.
Because of the love I have for you, I may yet continue this conversation. The taken over of those land was in part because of the wicked practices, which included child sacrifices, of its inhabitants.

“Do not say in your heart when Yahweh your God drives them away from before you, ‘It was because of my own righteousness that Yahweh has brought me in to take possession of this land.’Rather, it is because of the wickedness of these nations that Yahweh is driving them away from before you.” Deuteronomy 9:4.



“You must not do this to Yahweh your God, because they do for their gods every detestable thing that Yahweh hates, even burning their sons and their daughters in the fire to their gods.”
Deuteronomy 12:31.
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 9:54am On Dec 16, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
Do you not see that you are contradicting yourself saying "it is not literal", then saying, "it's a future event"?

Anyway, this is a good place to draw the curtain
You clearly clearly clearly have a comprehension issue nawaaaa

I have been saying this

*no fire
*what is said there will happen in the future
*what will happen in the future is making sinners and death cease to exist.
* AGAIN, the lake of fire is no literal fire but metaphor for future permanent destruction of sinners, Devil and death

Whats the contradiction here mister?
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 9:42am On Dec 16, 2025
DeepSight:
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Alright. I see it now. However I disagree and it remains a lie to claim that Jericho was destroyed for practices of Child Sacrifice. At best what is shown there is a practice of a particular way of burying children and not evidence of child sacrifice. Note that in my very first reply I said that there were slurs that Philistines from North Africa practiced such and also one or two others. I said that clearly. So its not that we dont know of the practice but the takeover of Canaan WAS NOT on account of such, it was a land grab by the Jews at the behest of their pagan mountain deity called Yahweh who had promised them the said land as "the promised land." They thus went about committing genocide at the command of Yahweh and seizing lands of other people. David did so as well in respect of Jerusalem. Do you want to claim all of the so called promised land was handed over to the Jews at the point of a sword because of child sacrifice?

Besides, the child remains found in many places cannot be traced to the specific time concerned.


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So what? What was the purpose of commanding him to do so? Because it was used as a test of his willingness to obey the blood thirsty deity. That alone is barbaric enough.


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Allowed or that was the plan?


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What secular sources please? Give me a break. The resurrection is a myth.
I can help you with the secular sources just like I did with the other evidence I have given you. But then, I see clearly your sentiments, it has deeply taken root. I really want to help at re-educating you, but then it will take a lot of time and effort.
Philistines again my man didn’t come from Africa. They are most likely Europeans from eastern europes. There forebears however appeared to build a large empire that straddled the coast of Egypt ad Palestine.
Those little Children inside the jar where sacrificed. It’s a popular vile custom in that area. And dating ancient artifacts and things is a technology that is quite precise now, besides, Jericho though an ancient city wasn’t always inhabited, so people have a rough idea of when whatever incident could have happened.
I do not know how you got to develop this hatred against Yahweh. I can help reintroduce him to you.. his power and what he has done in the past that is beyond doubt
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 11:09pm On Dec 15, 2025
Chidolalar:
So the righteous will go where?

If it's heaven den qoute where it was stated in the Bible

And if a murderer, arm robber, corrupt personel, fraudster, bandits, terrorists repent today and die that same day or d next day, that person will go to heaven abi?
the earth is made for man. The Bible teaches about paradise restoration.
The heaven is Gods and his righteous spirits abode.
Forgiveness of sin and gift of eternal life is Gods to give
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 9:55pm On Dec 15, 2025
DeepSight:
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Just looked again. You are talking about Moloch? Notice that Carthage was mentioned there, where is Carthage? North Africa. And yet you scoffed at my mention of North Africa. Unless I am growing old, I still can't see Jericho there, maybe I will look yet again.

Yahweh loves child sacrifice because he tested Abraham with it and is alleged to have sacrificed his own son as well which means he is into ritual human sacrifice as well.
Please check the attached image again.
Abraham didn’t sacrifice Isaac and you know it. When you start being up half cooked evidence to support your sentiments, then you really have to do an introspect.
Yahweh allowed his son to be killed. And I tell you again that he has immense power to reward this kind of service. That son is alive now . He was seen by more than 500 people after his death.
Secular sources attest this too

Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 9:25pm On Dec 15, 2025
DeepSight:
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You didn't show me about Jericho which is what I asked and I am aware of the reason Yahweh gave for the command to slaughter the Amalekites and that did not include child sacrifices.

Secondly Yahweh loves and practices child sacrifices himself.
This means you do not read carefully. Check the second or third image I attached if you won’t see information about Jericho’s there.
Please check that up first, then show me how Yahweh loves child sacrifices?
Christianity EtcRe: So After Burning Us In Hell What Will God Actually Gain? by thinkmoney(m): 9:05pm On Dec 15, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
You have now shifted Post from burning to metaphors and allegory whereas Revelations is talking about events yet to come?
I am telling you mister, that there is no literal burning. Revelation tells about coming event using metaphors.
The metaphoric burning of sinners and ‘death’ is a future event telling of how sinners and death will be destroyed and cease to exist.
How is it my message that had been this consistent is not clear to you?

Let me reiterate again. The throwing or casting into the lake of fire isn’t literal, it’s in the future yes, and it symbolizes the future permanent destruction of sinners and death

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