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benalvino2:
Congress did not approve the Libyan war and Obama just destroyed that country. Till today war is still on. The rebels are fighting amongst themselves.. The country is a dead zone. What was his achievement? Nothing but blood.

There was already a civil war in Libya before nato involvement

Just say, you love poking holes.

basilico:
So I lied. No you did. Trump marshalled the Arab league prominently divided into Sunni Shia hegemonies since the death of third caliph. I will not go into that for now
The Arab league is Sunni, thw Sunni make up 85% of Muslima. they have a common enemy in Shia led Iran that Obama Personal Assistant Valerie Jarret hails from. Hence his favourable disposition to those turban clads theocrats .
Obama had the best intelligence ever assembled, he should have known better than to listen to leaders who can't allow fracking because of some left wing activists

Keep blaming.

I already told you, you all poke holes where they are none. Now you remember Obama has the best intelligence and he failed? So Trump didn't get the best intelligence when Russia was putting bounties on his soldiers? And he went to kiss Putins ass.

Rubbish,

benalvino2:
Stop dribbling yourself. See the video of Obama


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwPi3jK-kRw

I already said it 3 days ago, he made mistakes and he owned it, Biden asked this question before they went to Libya? What happens after Gaddafi?

This is Obama confessing that he actually made a mistake, but keep blaming him to soothe your narrative

sanpipita:
Yet another lie UK and France were only waiting for UN resolution to be passed not America, they pressed for months for this.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/mar/29/libya-sarkozy-cameron-gaddafi

The Arab league themselves came in and pushed for military intervention and recognized an interim govt but of course its Obama

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/arab-league-asks-un-for-no-fly-zone-over-libya/2011/03/12/ABoie0R_story.html

They begged Obama for months!!!! But now they want to blame Obama, why not blame Canada? UK? Italy? France?

But just Obama.

benalvino2:
See the warning Nigerians are leaving on Donald trumps page. They have sense.

Or one illiterate girl!!! He claims it's Nigerians

basilico:
The US bankrolls NATO. No way these Sarkozy and Co would have started a war without US president approval.
Hillary was in a press conference when news broke out that Gadaffi was dead. How she reacted is this We came, we saw He died
Then his Soviet filled armouries were raided by you know who. Sent weapons on the next Obama target Suriya. And Benghazi raid not Tripoli was attacked after.
I'll go on later, but for now Obama and his VP are a disgrace.

Lol now it's America bankroll's nato,

I explicitly told you, nato was the one that wanted to go in, Obama was hesitant, Biden clearly disagreed, but yeah blame them because you hate the truth.

And no America isn't bankrolling them. Stop peddling misinformation, images below

benalvino2:
NATO didn't. Obama did. Get your facts right

You should get your own facts right sir, stop peddling misinformation.

benalvino2:
I answered but if you can process that information please upgrade. A toddler can see that I answered your question

Lmao, weyrey dey disguise. Since you are enjoying acb appointment, let dems appoint whoever they like, stop complaining

Both are perfectly constitutional

sanpipita:
If Gaddafi wakes up and says its NATO they will still say its Obama, their ODS has been top notch in recent weeks you will think Obama is on the ballot.

Trump will pee on himself and their defense will be but Obama also peed on himself as a toddler.

I just tire for them, Obama was actually the most hesitant, because you hate him

They would say Obama attacked Gaddafi

Nato did, blame them.

benalvino2:
Lmao. Who says anything about packing the court? Do you believe by replacing the late RBG they are packing the court. Ahhh... Can you be this ignorant? Also the constitution did not protect the house and senate from packing the court too.

Lmao I asked you a question you flew a bender, is it constitutional to pack the court, yes or no?

benalvino2:
For once I am agreeing with you and liking your post

So you agree it's constitutional for them to pack the courts also?

benalvino2:
Funny cause at this stage Biden is doing worse than Hillary did. Their lead in early voting is a lot less compared to other election. Conservatives always come out during the main election to cast their votes and surpass the democrats early voting lead

No he isn't, stop peddling misinformation, he has had the most perfect poll in recent years Hillary always flauntuated

Bluebyrd:
And the deluded liberals are busy fooling themselves with skewed polls. It's less than two weeks now, Trump will win the real poll and all the nonsense fake news polling will end.

He would win in a landslide abi? Miserable clowns

bayelsaowei:
Many persons have lost touch on what true leadership entails in this trump dispensation..many think leadership is only about delivery and not how that delivery is attained.

Trump has really worked on the insane part of many humans in the world..

Let me send you a video of a true leader, when asked about court packing

WATCH: In an interview with Joe Biden for @60Minutes, @CBSEveningNews' @NorahODonnell pressed Biden on his position on so-called "court packing." It's a controversial proposal that would add justices to the Supreme Court, from its current nine.

More Sunday on @CBS. pic.twitter.com/iFvatE6ZP6

— CBS Mornings (@CBSMornings) October 22, 2020

Watch it

benalvino2:
Ghadafi warned them about the migrant crisis and he is the one keeping them at bay, Ghadafi was not agitative yet Obama killed him. See the country now. Same thing they did 2014 in ukraine. Obama just destroyed nations. Yemen, Syria etc. And he let ISIS prevail.

It is not Obama, it's is nato. Can't y'all fucking read!!!!

basilico:
With Obama fuelling the French Dassault Rafale jets mid air to continue bombing Libya.
Gadaffi was a dictator, The West led by Sarkozy wanted a piece of the oil. By killing him they thought they would put a complacent admin like that of Egypt Morsi aided by Obamination.
They were wrong. Soros is flooding Europe with economic refugees as we speak.

Obama was not the one that started the war, biden clearly opposed it, Obama regretted ever joining nato

Blame nato, what is your issue with Obama, seems you have a secret crush on him.

benalvino2:
All they know to do is political stunt. She is getting into scotus

No one denied the fact, it's perfectly constitutional.

benalvino2:
Yes when you have no arguments.

Or I don't want too wrestle with stupidity?

What is the measure of you saying 16%

Just you insinuating?

benalvino2:
Yes it could be wrong but we know he got 8% of the black votes... He will get at least 16% this time and as for Hispanic... The numbers are high for trump.

Lmao, 16% is a reach. But I won't argue with you

Observe

benalvino2:
2016 fox polls shows Hillary winning too

That means this polls blow were wrong too since polls are all wrong according to trump, since you all didn't go to science class. What happened was a statistical error. On the day of election, RCP called it that it was closer.

Undecided voters broke out for trump, because of the whole pizza gate rubbish, and some people protested and boycotted Hillary because they didn't like her. But watch this year's own.

benalvino2:
The data so far is indicating. Why do you think Obama came out of his cave yesterday to talk trash. Man that has lost all the election where he backed a candidate maybe except France

Don't be in a hurry, calm down and observe. Just 12days more

Seems fox is the new CNN

benalvino2:
Hahaha they think everyone in Nigeria is poor. See this anchor babies. Hahaha you hate trump cause he is gonna end sanctuary cities right

He won't win. Bet

basilico:
I consider you as one rational person who is able to judge a coin by it's two sides.
America products solely produced are a tard expensive Businesses are formed to create wealth and riches.
By businesses moving to Viet Trump already won. He stood up to the bullies .
China is engaged in massive Intellectual Property theft, IP the likes never seen before. Come up with an invented product, and the Chinese replicate it as soon as you hit the road there. That's what Trump sought to reverse, the endemic IP theft. To stem this IP theft slap some huge tarriffs on their product.
When the corporates move to a fragile economy like Viet It's much easier to control their imports.
The shifting of production did not start with Trump and will not end up with him Was a decades long in the making, and will need the right conditions to be enshrined in law to
Grow business
End foreign. reliance
Teach China a lesson.
Ever seen a steel structure crumble because the standards were not followed.

But you do know that this affected the farmers produce yeah?

basilico:
In other words Obama added 10T to national debt because of a recession.
Not for govt wages.
Cry and whispers heard .

While he lowered deficits!!!!

And trump added 5T to debts and also increased deficits For no reason.

But he is the best president okay.

You wait till.next year then you would see the blow out.

basilico:
I gave an example of a man eat man society. Where you price your goods/services at a balance because you ain't the only one charging .
An equilibrium.
Trump has the idea of making the market competitive. Why is the second largest economy termed as a developing nation by WTO , this attracting lower import rates while being the worlds factory It's because the likes of Biden allowed that to happen.
When factories shutter, a lot of livelihoods become dependent Democrats say they care, so they subsidize the welfare society. I think societal and nation state preference according to the Gospel by Trump is the right way. forward in an ever competitive economy
You can't open a company in China without 50% local investors, who as soon they learn your secrets move a block down the street and copycat your goods Havin spent zero on research the competitor will out price you.
As regards to coming to an agreement with China, that's not the way You don't agree with a bully who wants to replace you.You play hard, most bullies are ebullient on the outside, but their hearts are not made of stone Play hard, the bullies will kowtow.

Lmao, you fight with a bully and you both get suspended, shows you have never handled a bully situation in your entire life.

You come to symbiotic relationship that benefits both parties, that's just the simple way

He went to war with them, did it bring the jobs back to USA? Rather it went to Vietnam. Stupidity

benalvino2:
How come Obama did not pay it off when tax was high? In fact Obama is the deficit king

Obama: Jan. 21, 2009, debt was $10,625,053,544,309.79. Feb. 13, 2012, debt was $15,355,198,335,393.66. That was an increase of $4,730,144,791,083.87.

Trump: Jan. 23, 2017, debt was $19,949,678,366,998.00. Feb 13, 2020, debt was $23,305,297,151,133.97. That was an increase of $3,355,618,784,135.97.

So for those three-year periods, Obama created $1,374,526,006,947.9‬0 more debt than Trump has. These are the real facts.

NUMBERS DON'T LIE!!

And automatically you forgot that there was a recession!!!! Sir what are you talking about. There was bailout for the auto industry, that's literally millions of jobs, there was bailout for banks And small businesses. Or was there a recession in 2017? Or 18?

just cut the BS

basilico:
We could tax billionaires more. They will maintain an office to look American, but will be operating offshore in tax Havens.
Another way, give the masses a sense of pride in buying locally produced goods.
A dentist charges an arm and a leg for a simple tooth extraction, in return the house mover charges him an arm and a leg to move him to the suburbs.
That way money goes around, the fittest survive, the losers whine all day from Mom's basement about how life is not fair to them armed with a degree in advanced study of border wall butterfly migration curtailment.

That's why you don't tax only billionaires, you tax everyone making bars, 18% of Americans are millionaires.

About the dentists and doctors, if there was centralised medicals, everyone would not need those ridiculous premiums that insurance companies collect, over time you won't notice that you are literally paying more taxes, but get more cash at hand and credit, without plunging into depression. But if you lower taxes, nothing is going to go around, millionaires are going to hurdle all the cuts they get to the Bahamas, and you would still pay premiums for health insurance,

And made in America goods would naturally be expensive, first of all, labour is too expensive in America, and Republicans don't want to make a path for outsourcing skilled labour, they call it opening borders. Costs would increase, if things were made in America, do you think a white man Would toil the feed the way a Mexican does and collect the same cash? In china they can pay a wage to workers for as lows as $5 per day, and the workers would actually be very grateful, The minimum wage in America is around $8 per hour. That way thing gets expensive drastically.

The way trump is forcing companies to pull out from China Is totally the wrong way, he is meant Make an agreement with china, that is the best way to handle it, Trump is currently having issues with various allies and he goes ahead to battle china, the second-biggest economy!!!, come on. If producers are forced out of China, they would rather go to Vietnam, Indonesia or even Africa than America, because of labor cost.

basilico:
A blanket statement. Before Covid19 lockdowns what was the growth in debt.
While at it, subtract the extra 2.5% interest rate added by Feds. A sample calculation shows that an increase by 2% of 20Trillion yields a massive 200B in debt.
Let's give Trump a hypothetical 0% interest rate for comparative purposes. How much would the debt grow?
Next shutdown all business that creates wealth and livelihoods to 330m people .Pay business an incentive to retain n pay their employees working using Zoom or Hangouts or Teams.
The debt grows.

Sir I am not blaming trump for debts, you brought it. And I am pointing it to you that debts grow during or after a recession, watch how the debt climbs for the next 10 years. Since we are blaming Obama for debts, why shouldn't we blame trump? Rubbish

And what's your plane to pay debts off when taxes are lower?

feedthenation:
The national debt just barreled past $23 trillion. Here's how Trump's $3 trillion portion compares to Obama, Bush, and Clinton.

https://www.businessinsider.com/national-debt-deficit-trump-how-it-compares-obama-bush-clinton-2019-11?r=US&IR=T


The national debt of the United States barreled past $23 trillion on November 1, according to data from the Treasury Department. It marked the most money the federal government has owed and is a result of a growing budget deficit, which neared $1 trillion in the last fiscal year.

To put that in perspective, the $23 trillion figure is roughly equal to the economies of China, Japan, and Germany combined, according to the Peterson Foundation, an organization advocating deficit reduction.

Yet three years into a norm-shattering presidency, Donald Trump's spending measures up similarly with that of his predecessors.

He's in line with past Republican presidents like George W. Bush, who racked up deficits with boosts in military spending and a wave of tax cuts. Trump has added about $3 trillion to the national debt so far during his nearly three years in office, despite his pledge to wipe it out in eight years and his campaigning on being "the king of debt."


--- And this was before the covid pandemic ---

This right here is the issue, they want to reduce taxes and also wipe out debts and deficits and also build a wall. How possible!

Republicans are morons jare, them and there green party movement

basilico:
Obama grew the national debt from 9m to 19m in 8 lousy years. He grew more debt than the last 43 presidents before him all combined.
And the Feds kept interest rates at 0% for all his time as the destroyer in chief.
Under Trump Feds have raised interest rates how many times.

Pisses me off when lack of adequate knowledge makes clown heap praise on a snake oil salesmen.

And he reduced deficits which trump has doubled back. What about debt? In 4 years trump is blowing out Obama’s record somehow.

basilico:
New York Post was forcibly moved to the Twitter gulag.for reporting Biden family corruption.
Your sources suck.

Lmao, a tabloid that is popular for unverified news. Ok