Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 7:25pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
shachris02: and What's the meaning of Ekepeye in igbo? You know you ask some funny questions ..just like asking the meaning of aba in Igbo or the meaning of ngwa or uga in Igbo I asked a simple questions Tell me the Benin words are culture in ikwerre ..you still find it hard Tell me the meaning of the man akalaka in Benin you still can't Oga abeg go...you no get yarns OK let me make it easier for you ..tell me the culture that ikwerre practises that points to Benin So they don't call Eze again maybe oba and ogiso These kids ..the way you reasons ....seff . go back and think before you answer these questions. At what point did Igbo colonise or subjugated the ikwerres Still waiting son |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 7:16pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
shachris02: i just told you that Ihruoha, as it is, no changes, is a bini word and you are trying to deconstruct a perfect word to suit your wrapped explanation. I thank lord I still understand Benin pls tell us the meaning in edo language At least there is an Igbo meaning Oya homework Tell us the meaning Call your Benin friiends |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 7:10pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
hummerwise: you sure think am terrified rite? seriously? am putting it to yu now,, if your not terrified and really brave like yu prove to be... change ur profile pix to ur real picture or perhaps paste ur picture here.. you think ur fighting a just cos,,, do it now am waiting.. Mind you young man I am indifferent to Biafra and also I am pure Igbo but I am here to puncture all your stupid lies ..you lack the confidence to even call your tribe but hide under we the ss.... All these small minority tribes seff |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 7:08pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
Abagworo: Why not accept the truth than change post? The core Ikwerre originate from Okpo Wagidi who migrated from Arochukwu as an agent of the god, stayed at Ozuzu in Etche for some time before leaving to found towns inhabited today by his descendants. These towns make up the present day Ikwerre LGA. Emohua, Obio/Akpo and PHC consists of a mix of secondary migrants from Ekpeye, Ogba, Kalabari, Okrika and Igbo. Maybe some Edo people equally came as secondary migrants but there exists zero Edo influence in Ikwerre language and culture. I am waiting for them to tell us how Benin words are in ikwerre and they also should tell us the Benin culture like igue in ikwerre also I want to know if ikwerre worship ayilara or amadioha Dont mind those lies they peddle |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 7:06pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
shachris02: Chambers Dictionary (William Geddie, ed. 1962) says: “A nation is a body of people marked off by common descent, language, culture, or historical tradition: the people of a tribe.” However, S.O.L. Amadi-Nna (1993) avers that: “A tribe is a group of clans under recognized chiefs and usually claiming common ancestry. Ikwerre can therefore not be a clan but a tribe. The Ikwerres claim a common ancestor. Ikwerre is an independent small tribe.” In the words of K.O. Amadi (1993), “Traditions suggest that Ikwerre is a nickname given to Iwhnuruọhna people…..They have ever since regarded themselves as a distinct group and have happily come a long way in their struggle for self-identity as evidenced by the recognition of their language as one of the Nigerian languages.”
Amadi-Nna (1993) added that: “The Ikwerres are a small but distinct tribe. The Ikwerres have distinct linguistic, social and cultural traits and formations that distinguish them from other close neighbouring tribes like the Ijaws and the Ibos. Majority of the Ikwerre settlements have their roots traceable from the old Benin Empire.” Iwhnurọhna people descended from the ancient Bini Kingdom. The name of the grand ancestor is Akalaka. Their relations in Rivers State are Ekpeye and Ogba people. The reigning Oba of Benin when Akalaka, the ancestor of Ihruọha (later called Iwhnurọhna) fled was Oba Ewuare (Ogwaro). Akalaka, a member of the Benin royal family, fled in the 13th century on allegation of plotting assassination of the Oba. He died in 1462. Iwhnurọhna his third son settled east of the Sombrero River by 1538 AD, as detailed below.
Chief N.M.T. Solomon (2004), native of Ikodu Ubie in Ekpeyeland, in his narrative draws heavily from the now authenticated written historical records delivered by various informed sources including “Eketu (Weber) of Ubeta, assumed to have lived for over two hundred (200) years as the oldest man in all Ekpeye, Ogba and Iwhnurọhna (or Ikwerre), at that time (and) was asked to narrate the history and customs of Ekpeye people” as unfolded in his lifetime. Here is what he said, which has been validated by the accounts of the current generation through responses to our questionnaires and direct interviews thereby increasing our level of confidence on the data:
Ekpeye, born in Benin, was the first of the three sons of Akalaka. While in Ndoni, he married a second wife to gain the love and favour of the people. The new wife gave birth to a son, which he named Ogba. Akalaka was still in Ndoni when his first wife, the mother of Ekpeye, gave birth to his third son called Ihruoha (Ikwerre).
Similar historical fact by J.N. Olise (1971) averred that: “Akalaka, a member of the Benin royal family, fled with his wife from Benin to Ndoni, a community located close to the River Niger, to save the life of his new born baby (Ekpeye) … While at Ndoni, Akalaka took a second wife. … Akalaka had two sons, Ekpeye – born to him by his Benin wife, and Ogba – born to him by his Ndoni wife. According to F.E. Otuwarikpo (1994): "After the death of Akalaka in 1462 AD, his two sons, Ekpeye and Ogba had conflict, which compelled Ogba, the younger son, to move northwards where he founded Ohiakwo (Obigwe) and settled with his family. Ekpeye who remained at Ula-Ubie had seven sons – Ubie, Akoh, Upata, Igbuduya, Ekpe, Awala and Asa. The last three sons – Ekpe, Awala and Asa – crossed to the other side of Sombreiro River (present day Ikwerreland and settled there since 1538 AD.” He added that: “Ekpe migrated to present day Rumuekpe and spread through Elele (Alimini), Ndele, Rumuji and part of Ibaa. Awala migrated to present day Isiokpo …”
Amadi-Nna (1993) also said Akalaka migrated with his half brother called Ochichi from the area of Benin Empire. Ochichi sons were Ele (Omerele, now Elele), Elu (Elumuoha, now Omerelu), Egbe (Egbeda) and Mini (Alimini, Isiokpo).
The crucial point here, which is of great importance in tracing the joint origin of the ancestors of the Old Ahoada Division (in the Governor Diete-Spiff administration), is the mention of the number of children that Akalaka had, namely: Ekpeye, Ogba and Ihruọha (Ikwerre). It is noteworthy that the pedigree and name of Ikwerre people, Iwhnurọhna, obviously took its root from this original name – Ihruọha. Chief Solomon therefore establishes a very vital historical link, which has been missing in literature on Ikwerre origin that would assume more significance in the discourses of Ikwerre genealogy in the future – the fact that Akalaka was the direct father of Ihruọha (Ikwerre). Iwhnurọhna, in Ikwere parlance, means the face of the community (town, city or village).
Nigerian colonial history records that the name "Ikwerre" was given by the colonial administration when they wanted to acquire the Rebisi waterfront to build the wharf. Using an Ibo interpreter to talk to the illiterate Rebisi (Port Harcourt) chiefs, they asked them: Would you permit us to use the waterfront to build the wharf for ships to berth? And they answered: A KWERULEM, meaning - "We have agreed." What the white-man was hearing was "Ikwerre," so he recorded it in the official gazette that the IKWERRE PEOPLE have agreed for the colonial administration to build the wharf. And since it was the official record of government, the name Ikwerre became the name of the Iwhnurohna people in all official documentations till date.
Similar cases of Anglicization of native names in the Niger Delta region by the colonial administration are Benin for Bini, Okrika for Wakrike, Degema for Udekema, Abonnema for Obonoma, Brass for Gbara sni, Bonny for Ibani, Pepple for Perekule, Ahoada for Ehuda, etc
Even so, “… there were dissenting voices, … who believed that Ikwerre origins lay outside Igbo land, … in the Benin Kingdom of old. It is, therefore, obvious that the interminable debate about Ikwerre origins and migrations including the repudiation of the Igbo tradition is not a phenomenon of the post-civil war period. The controversy, as it were, is not necessarily the product of the present political realities wherein groups which hitherto were seen to have cultural affinities now find themselves in different states or administrative systems.” -- K.O. Amadi (1993)
The Ogbakor Ikwerre Convention, a cultural organization of Ikwerre people, in a paper presented to the Human Rights Violation Commission headed by Rtd. Justice Chukwudifu Oputa on 10 October 2001, said: “Ikwerre ethnic nationality is not and has never been a sub-group of any other tribe in Nigeria including Ndi-Igbo. There is no doubt that the advent of the British and later regionalization put Ndi-Igbo at the helm of affairs in Eastern Nigeria. This brought Ndi-Igbo into Ikwerre land. In course of time, the Igbo took advantage of their position in the then Eastern Regional Government to grab land in Ikwerre and occupy political positions such as the mayor of Port Harcourt. In the process, Ikwerre along with other minority groups were marginalized and driven to the background.”
Professor Godwin Tasie noted that in 1913 the Rt Rev Herbert Tugwell, the Anglican Bishop on the Niger, undertook an experimentation tour of Ikwerre towns and villages assumed to be Ibo-speaking to test the Union Ibo Bible Nso being introduced in Iboland. "Tugwell discovered from the tests he carried out that although the Ikwerre were often regarded as Ibo… the Union Ibo Bible translation, surprisingly, was not easily understood by the Ikwere." This is obviously why Igbo vernacular was compulsorily introduced and taught in all schools in Ikwerreland before the Nigerian Civil War to the assimilation (i.e. destruction) of the Ikwere language.
This also obviously led to the Rumuomasi Declaration in 1965. " … in their meeting at Rumuomasi in 1965 the Ikwerre had, under the umbrella of a highly promising new body that was to get the Ikwerre together as a people of new and clearer vision, they had declared themselves as a people of the distinct identity of Ikwerre Ethnic Nationality - not Ibo, not Ijo, not anything else but Ikwerre, Iwhnurọhna. This was the historic Rumuomasi Declaration of 1965 (G.O.M. Tasie, 2000). The full implication is that Ikwere people began to assert themselves forcefully as an ethnic nationality of their own and not Ibos or Ijos, and efforts were made to revert to the original Ikwere names for families, villages, communities and landmarks. For instance, there was the change from Umuola to Rumuola, Umuoro to Rumuoro, Umukrushi to Rumuokwurusi, just to name a few.
T O N Y E N Y I A, PhD, MNIM CHAIRMAN, BOARD OF TRUSTEES IWHNURỌHNA CHRISTIAN ASSOCIATION Saturday, 5 February 2011
References: Olise, J.N. (1971) The Peoples of Benin, Oxford University Press Amadi, K.O. (1993) Amadi-Nna,S.O.L.(1993) Otuwarikpo, F.E. (1994) Studies in Ikwerre History and Culture, in Nduka, O. (ed) (1993) Craft Publishing Ltd Studies in Ikwerre History and Culture, in Nduka, O. (ed) (1993) Craft Publishing Ltd The Phonology of Ekpeye: A Descriptive Analysis, unpublished MA Thesis, University of Jos Solomon, N.M.T. (2004) A Short History of Ekpeye People (an excerpt from an upcoming book entitled “THE EKPEYE BOOK – A Comprehensive Guide in the History and Culture of Ekpeye People of the Niger Delta Region in Nigeria” published by Usama Ekpeye USA Inc, Tasie, G.O.M. (2000) Chairman's Opening Remarks at the Maiden Ikwerre Annual Thanksgiving Day, mimeo
http://iwhnurohna..com.ng/2012/11/a-brief-history-of-ikwerre.html With all these you copied ..all the names I see are Igbo names even iwuhorha the name you said is ikwerre ..tell us the meaning of the name in Benin because I know the meaning in Igbo Also is akalaka a benin name ? Because akalaka means destiny in Benin Tell us the Benin words in ikwerre Oga inam waiting |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 7:03pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
hummerwise: how easy can it be to say things hiding behind a phone or perhaps a computer.... alot of people search tru google just to come here on NL to show off... if yu trully believe in this biafra struggle,, take all this out of NL or other social media.... turn into reality everything you read on google and see how things turn out at the end.... you biafrans were spitting violence and war words some days back,, and now that you have a taste of it, yu turn to NL again just tell us ur plan b which is searching on google for answers(thinkin the referendum is another naija election) . pls take it outside NL so that we know how serious you guys can be,, CNNs, ALJAZEERAs of this world can help ur quest.... i have not see anything in reality but here only on NL..
pls i beg you,, if yu have to speak harsh words or come close to my mentions,, make sure you have ur real pix on ur profile like i av mine.... stop hiding behind fake pix and ur phones...
#brainshedkids They are protesting and also some are doing awareness So why are you terrified .. |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 7:02pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
RICHESTBABA: The Bakasi pple whom belonged to various tribes nig re not a part of cameroun! Go and bring dem back! In Syria we ve pple of turkish origin called turkmen! Carve out their lands and giv it to turkey! I am not an ibo man and I don't want to be one! Get that pls! Now you are shooting yourself ...the same way we have Igbo that was carved into the Niger delta So who needs you in the scheme of things ....we are almost 40 million so? |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 6:57pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
redcap: bro Tony,you misfired,friendly fire I guess. the guy actually posited that biafra can survive just like Swiss.pls check his initial post and edit yours accordingly. nwanne nsogbu adighi Noted |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 5:44pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
Abagworo: There are more Bini words in Igbo than in Ikwerre but Ikwerres have said they are not Igbo and that should be respected. GIVE US THE BENIN WORDS IN IKWERRE NA... WHY IS THAT DIFFICULT FOR U OH WHERE YOU THERE WHEN IKWERRE SAID THAT THEY ARE NOT IGBO CHIBUIKE AMECHI WENT TO ABA AND SAID THAT HE IS IGBO, MY FRIEND UCHE SAID HE IS IGBO SO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT NOW OGA WE ARE WAITING FOR YOUR BENIN WORDS |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 5:42pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
feelamong: You are the Olodo! tell us the landlocked countries doing well outside switzerland
also tell us the sort of agreement Switzerland has with its neighbours to use their port and tell us the one that the useless Biafra will have with its neigbours..
the abandoned property issue issue in PH is still very fresh... AUSTRIA, LUXEMBOURG IS DOING PERFECTLY WELL IN AFRICA ONE OF THE BEST ECONOMIES IS BOSTWANA..GUESS WHat they are landlocked even ethiopia is far better than Nigeria...in GDP and what do you have in Nigeria...you are asking for 5000 |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 5:40pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
BlackTechnology: So why did you attack me then
A fellow Biafra like you YOU STARTED WITH LIES BY SAYING THAT SWISS AINT LANDLOCKED |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 5:40pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
Abagworo: Ethnicity and political affiliation has little in common with origin and language. Many ethnic groups originate from others but at a point in history cease to be part of their parent group and recognise their supposed dialect as a distinct language. It is all over us. Urhobo vs Isoko, Efik vs Ibibio vs Annang are our close neighbours.
In some instances people of same ethnic group might be different nationals like Yoruba of Nigeria and Benin Republic or Fulani of several countries.
The South-south people which includes some Igbo speakers seem more comfortable with Nigeria than joining Biafra. OH YOU ARE THEIR SPOKESMAN OR YOU ARE THE ONE THAT CREATED THE ETHNICITY. I AM JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW. ISOKO AND URHOBO ARE BASICALLY THE SAME ETHNICIITY BUT DIFFERENT CLANS..ALL THESE THINGS YOU GUYS CALL ETHNICITY ARE MERE CLANS. HOW CAN YOU CALL PEOPLE LIKE ISOKO OR ANNANGS ETHNICG GROUP WHERE THEY DONT EVEN NUMBER UP TO 5 MILLION AND DONT CONFUSE DIALECT WITH LANGUAGE IMO SPEAKDS A DIIFERENT DIALECT OF IGBO FROM ANAMBRA AND DELTA. BUT THEY ARE INTELLIGEABLE...MAYBE YOU WILL TELL ME THAT IMO IS NOT A TRIBE...IMO AND THEY SPEAK DIFFERENT LANGUAGE... WHY ARE PEOPLE SO SLOW, WHY CANT NIGERIA READ AGAIN..THEY COME ONLINE AND KEEP DISGRACING THEMSELVES PLS DIFFERENTIATE DIALECTS, ACCENTS FROM LANGUAGE PLS |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 5:36pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
shachris02: they didn't brainwash anything. just that they corrupted their language. ikwere for instance is a mixture of bini and igbo language. same with asaba. All these variations in languages were because of mixtures and interaction with other tribes. MY UNCLE IS FROM IKWERRE, AT WHAT POINT DID IGBO SUBDUE IKWERRE, GIVE US DATE AND TIME NOT THIS YOUR SPECULATION AND WHAT ARE THE NAMES OF THE FOUNDER OF IKWERRRE, AND ALSO TELL ME THE BENIN WORDS IN IKWERRE ALSO. THANK GOD I CAN HEAR SOME BENIN WORDS... I AM WAITING FOR YOUR LIES.. GIVE ME THE NAMES OF IKWERRE FOUNDERS AND WHERE THEY COME FROM? GIVE ME THE BENIN WORDS AND CULTURE IN IKWERRE. I AM WAITING...MY IN LAW IF FROM IKWERRE AND EZEPROMOE IS ALSO FROM IKWERRE....SO WE ARE WAITING FOR YOUR FACTS AND PROVE THIS |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 5:33pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
BlackTechnology: Is it not true
That if Switzerland can survive, that Biafra can survive also there is no doubt that biafra will survive, in short the igbo are the ones that hold this country that is why they are begging them to stay...imagine an hausa man said he wont be in NIGERIA AGIAN,,,the whole nigeria will gladly do them send forth party same for yoruba IGBO SURVIVED THE WAR AND HAD GOOD ECONOMY THEN, THEY WILL NO DOUBT SURVIVE DURING PEACE, THAT IS WHY THEY CAN SAY CONFIDENTLY THEY WANT TO LEAVE, THIS IS WHAT OTHER TRIBES CANT SAY. I was with a delta man, he said yesterday that If igbo leaves that they will join igbos that igbo should not leave them behind, I told him that he should not worry that DELTA IGBO are our brothers and they are leaving with us, if we leave. BUT WHAT I DONT WANT IS BLOODSHED!!!! PERIOD |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 5:27pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
VANHELLSING: That was very funny of u to mention the baba ijebu stuff. Kudos, i love the way u lay the fact bay and I have learn a lot about the history of ph from ur post. I have to puncture their lies...one even said that Igbo subdued the small tribes, i am waiting for him to tell us when and how? odenigboaroli come and see new postulations oooo |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 5:26pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
BlackTechnology: You are new to Naira land
I am a staunch believer in Biafra
Why are you attacking me for mocking an anti Biafran  it is very immaterial and inconsequential, I am not pro or anti biafra...i am here to puncture your lies and lies of thers |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 5:25pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
shachris02: igbos migrated and subdued those small tribes So much that they adapted some of their cultures and languages. it happens all the time so you are saying Igbo colonised and subdued them, thats a new one. can you please tell us the point in history when this YOUR SUBDUED happened and what languages they spoke before they were subdued and civilised by almighty Igbo Now I am taking my respect of igbo to a new level, they subdued them as you said and brainwashed them to forget their languages. Please also while telling us the date this subjugation took place in Igbo history, please let us know the tribes that was subdued and the names of their wars We are waiting for this your new history |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 5:22pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
RICHESTBABA: Is our rejection of u foools in d last civil war not an example to u biafrans? Or u naively think that has changed? I will never be a biafran! Come and divide d SS! We re waitin! who knows you? who recognises you? all these minorities seff, when men talk pls go find a mat |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 5:21pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
VANHELLSING: That was very funny of u to mention the baba ijebu stuff. Kudos, i love the way u lay the fact bay and I have learn a lot about the history of ph from ur post. sometimes, I ask how and which school these kids attended to. They talk as if they are authority in their field yet they know absolutely nothing....the other ones said that their are no igbo in Niger Delta...he knew of Malta becaudse their kunu drinking man went there lately to sun bath...so he came to know that they speak english...forgetting that English colonised them...then the monkey is saying that Igbo colonised some Igbo speaking clan in Niger Delta What an insult? These kids know absolutely nothing |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 5:18pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
BlackTechnology: Why did you attack me for mocking an anti Biafra that Biafra can't survive
Please edit your post you see how you made a big fool of yourself..just show appreciation. I have impcated knowladge in you be thankful and face your tribe and life, stop hanging on igbo...igbo bare not your saviour...they are charting their course and path...pls chat yours to us, your type doesnt matter...we are to proud and superior to notice your type. |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 5:16pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
now you are talking malta, English colonised Malta just like Nigeria...these people why are you dudes getting funny and silly in a bid to distort the historical fact. OK YOU ARE SAYING THAT IGBO COLONISED THE IGBO SPEAKING NIGER DELTA. HMMMMM I NEVER KNEW IGBOS WERE COLONIAL MASTERS OF THESE GUYS BUT THESE PEOPLE HAVE SAID THEY ARE IGBO AND IN OHANEZE AND PEOPLE LIKE EZEPROMOE AND OTHER NOTABLE DELTA IGBO LIKE UGOMBA HAS MADE THIS CLEAR SO , DID IGBO COLONISE THEM> ? THE truth will always set you guys free...oh you are the new SS tribe. I laugh in patani shachris02: That Maltese speak English and answer English name does not make them British.  |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 5:07pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
I gave blacktechnology a crash course in Geography VANHELLSING: Ignorance is really a bliss for some people. Mr ignoramuse, se will be the one doing the north a favour by buying their agricultural product which we can easily import from China, Indonesia, Thailand, India etc at a cheaper rate. As for cars and spear parts, it's our specialty, we import, manufacture, assemble, fabricate and sell to other tribes in this zoo.
We the igbo is not benefiting or buying anything from the yorubas ,our relationship can be classified as parasitic, they bring nothing to the table, more than 20% of food stuff and fruits from southeast end up in lagos and other southwest state. Southeast is self sufficient in many area, apart from cow beaf and amajiri. |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 5:01pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
BlackTechnology: 
Switzerland is she not a landlocked country.?
Illiteracy at its best 
] people are just daft You see what hate can do...it makes people like you not to reason. I sometimes hate debating issues with folks like you. It has come to show that most of you folks have nothing upstairs. Now let me give you a crash course on elementary geography and carthography....now I will take it to Europe and Switz will be our Subject. The geography of Switzerland encompasses the geographical features of Switzerland, a mountainous and landlocked country located in Western and Central Europe. It is surrounded by 5 countries: Austria and Liechtenstein to the east, France to the west, Italy to the south and Germany to the north. Switzerland has a maximum north-south length of 220 kilometres (140 mi) and an east-west length of about 350 kilometres (220 mi).[1] Switzerland is well known for the Alps in the south and south east. North of the Alps, the Swiss Plateau runs along the east-west axis of the country. Most of the population of Switzerland lives on the rolling hills and plains of the plateau. The smaller Jura Mountains are located on the north west side of the plateau. Much of the northern border with Germany follows the Rhine River, though the Rhine enters Switzerland near Schaffhausen. The eastern border with Germany and a portion of Austria is drawn through Lake Constance (German: Bodensee). A portion of the southwest border with France is drawn through Lake Geneva. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_SwitzerlandNow to Biafra and Igbo Access to sea..can you read pls 'Without Ikwerre the hinterland Igbos have many access to the sea. Port Harcourt came to prominence as from 1913 because of the development of the sea port and the Eastern Railway line. During the oil Rivers trade and the slave trade era Port Harcourt was not a factor in those trades. The trade route was through Azumini River through Ohambele via Opobo to Bonny (Ubani). At Bonny commodities were loaded and shipped overseas. Another route in fact the ealier route was through Cross River Aro chukwu to Calabar. Aboh, Onitsha and Ugwuta were also important sea routes to Atlantic ocean. Ikwerre is not wanted by the Igbo for any specific thing or need. The issue is matter of historical distortion and revisionism. Talking about Port Harcourt, Igweocha is a common name for Port Harcourt, this name is a descripton of how the horrizon seems to be touching the ocean from a plain sea shore view. Its ancient name was odinaobu. We also have Igwenga. These names are spelt in various ways depending on the dialect of the writer. Please call me master and thank me for this lecture. The money used in your education should hjave been used for lotto, preferably baba ijebu or sports lotto |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 4:41pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
who are the SS and us if I may ask where in Geography do we we have South South, or do you want us to assume that we dont have igbos in Etche, Bonny or Obigbo...maybe these folks do not speak igbo, maybe you can tell me the names like Odili, Amechi, Eze, Nwike are not IGBO and can not be found in SS Oh who are dividing you? you have been divided already along the cultural lines and language Tell me the similarity between an Efik man with Ijaw man OH my oil, our oil...who is even interested in oil these days, with the price of oil plunging and Nigeria has about 300k liters of oil in high seas begging for buyers How many of ur SS owns an oil well, or oil marketing firm people can be funny sometimss RICHESTBABA: Portharcourt is in d SS! U can't divide us! Bakassi now unwillingly a part of cameroun, is an eye opener! |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 4:36pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
nice postulation VANHELLSING: What a lovely post u have here. The issue of SE not been landlocked has been trashed here severely in the past hence, any igbo who still believe or buys such useless propaganda from indi ugwu and Yoruba is a new bi in this forum. We have gone past such silly tactic employed by the powers that be to keep the uniformed and fickle minded igbos on they kneels just to maintain statusqquo and keep them permanently in this hopeless zoo. |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 3:18pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
Preyetonye: y'all makin urself look pathetic, nt only do u want to seperate nigeria u also want to separate SS?, if the ikweres are igbos like u claim, go and do ur stupid agitation in PH again na THIS IJAW MAN...WHY ARE YOU WORRIED..THE AGITATTION WAS DONE IN IKWERRE LAND AND THAT IS AN IGBO LAND, THE AGITATION WAS MOVED TO ABUJA AND WILL BE MOVED TO LAGOS..IT IS THEIR RIGHT IJAW ARE SLIMMY AND FISHY IN NATURE...PREYE GET A LIFE OR GET A KAIKAI |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 3:16pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
Duru1: Bros we need to keep quite at the ignorance displayed by of the rapscallions on NL. Biafrans will never pre-empty the blue plans for the nation. These jokers shall be awe-shocked with speed of growth in Biafra. THEIR HATRED FOR IGBO MAKES THEM SOUND SO STUPID YOU KNOW |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 3:15pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
chigomiced: i believe that the Igbo man being industrious and hardworking will find a way where there seems to be no way..... Igboland has many access to the Sea, Rivers, Water Ways to Atlantic Ocean but some dumb and ignorant Nigerians cannot learn the geography and history that is evident and factual on ground in Igboland and Nigeria. They love to be ignorant despite facts in their land. What a people with Nigerians and Africans mentality of denial of facts as long as it massages their ego and wishful thinking. Let us use facts and verifiable evidence to educate the false and dummy analysis of those uninformed Nigerians and other Igbos that don't know Igbo history or geography. Using these dummy criteria in their false analysis that Igboland is landlocked, then it means that Portharcourt and Portharcourt Seaport is then landlocked, Ikwerre and Ikwerre land is then Landlocked, Ogoni is landlocked, Onne Port in Ogoni land is then landlocked, Calabar is then landlocked, Akwa Ibom is then Landlocked if we have to follow the propaganda and false unverified claims by these dummies that Igboland is Landlocked. Lets use a simple arithmetic to teach the ignorants in these forums that Igboland is not land locked. Fact one, IkwerreLand/Porharcourt and Porthhacourt seaport was dredged 40 to 50 Miles to sea from the Bonny River to Atlantic Ocean. Onne SeaPort in Ogoni land was dredged 50 to 60 Miles to Sea from Bonny River for Larger ships to Atlantic Ocean. Calabar Seaport is dredged 45 nautical miles to Atlantic Ocean. Akwa Ibom Ibaka deep seaport is about 30 nautical miles to Atlantic Ocean without dredging and the best seaport location in depth and width in Eastern Nigeria. Then open your dummy eyes and ears again. PROPOSED 2 (TWO) SEA PORTS IN OBEAKU- NDOKI AND AZUMIRI SEAPORTS IN ABIA STATE. Obuaku Ndoki Port in Abia State is only 25 nautical miles to the Atlantic Ocean from the confluence of Imo River and Azumiri (blue River) in Abia State, which is a large and deep body water of high flowing and rich rivers. Azumiri Blue River in Abia State is also 25-30 nautical miles to Atlantic Ocean for a big Seaport and big ships. Can the dummies reason for a second now?. Can the dummies see facts and reasons. Many Igbo towns and villages in Imo State, Abia State, Anambra State and Anioma are within 30 minutes to one hour drive to the Sea Atlantic Ocean. That is not land lock you dummies. |
Politics › Re: Why Exactly Do Igbo People Want To Break Away From Nigeria? by tonychristopher: 3:15pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
kayo80: What about it? Break it down. I don't understand. IF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND, MAYBE YOUR FATHER CAN EXPLAIN THE EDUVATION CUT OFF MARKS |
Politics › Re: Biafra: A Struggle For Disgruntled Elements? by tonychristopher: 3:13pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
YOU CALL ABA, I LAUGH WE KNOW THAT MOST NIGERIA LACK BEHIND IN A LOT OF THINGS, ESPESIALLY THE UYO AXIS WITH THEIR CHILD WITCHCRAFT...TELL ME ONE GLOBAL RECOGNISED TECHNOCRAT IN THE WHOLE OF AKWA IBOM, I WILL GIVE YOU 5 FROM MY VILLAGE IN NNEWI SOUTH NOT TO TALK OF ANAMBRA WHICH TRIBE WANTS TO COMPARE THEMSELVES WITH IGBO...THEY ARE BUSY WITH IGBOPHOBIA AND IGBO DOMINION...WE DOMINATE THEIR MIND AND THEY ARE ALWAYS SCARED OF US...EVEN YOU IN AKWA IBOM..MNONU MAN COMPARING HIMSELF WITH IGBO...HMMM WONDERS SHALL NEVER END WELL THAT IS THE LUXURY YOU GET IN nairaland...YOU KNOW YOU DARE NOT TALK THIS IN REAL LIFE TheGoodJoe: You can not deny the Igbos lack behind in a lot of areas. For instance, Aba can not compare to one tenth of the infrastructural development of Uyo. If these developments were there, I think we would see so much clamor for Igbos in terms of Federal appointments.
Why pursue for what will be difficult to achieve than first pursue what is in your back yard. The allocations come and the officials of the state squanders it. If the Igbos checkmate or reduce the wastage by their leaders, things would be far better there.
The clamor of Biafra is mostly fueled by the need for the improved plights of the Igbos. This problem is caused mostly by the Igbos ruling them and not those in key appointments in the Federal Government.
If there is a Biafran country, these men will still be the ones ruling. What will happen then? A protest against them? Why not start the fight now and make the most of what you have. |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 2:50pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
VANHELLSING: Don't give urself hbp over biafran matter, because when the time come u and ur incosequential tribe will not be noticed nor considered relevant by the great igbos. Ants like u and ur tribe have no say in animal kingdom. However, the point of a landlocked Biafra hardly worries me, although I do not believe that Biafra is gonna be landlocked. At worst, we will be content with the Azumini Blue Sea and Oguta as our sea corridors to the world. Besides, we will have inland ports, such as Onitsha/Asaba. Having said these, it's a common fact that prosperity doesn't come to countries because they are surrounded by seas. If it were so, Nigeria wouldn't be lying prostrate, visionless and chronically underdeveloped. Access to the sea hasn't changed the economic fortunes of Nigeria. Nigeria is a failed State. The Ijaw virtually live in water, but they are the most pitiable in underdevelopment, at least in Southern Nigeria. Their access to sea has meant nothing much in terms of better life. Somalia has the longest coastal line in Africa, but irrespective of that, Somalia remains a failed State. The sea hasn't given any economic advantage to the Caribbean Islands, such as Jamaica. Haiti is the poorest country in the Northern hemisphere, in spite of being chiefly a country with great access to the sea. Ireland has no land borders with any country. It was so poor until recently...the seas did nothing to lift Ireland out of poverty and hopelessness. There are 15 landlocked countries in Africa, 15 in Europe, 12 in Asia, and 2 in South America. They include: Botswana, Rwanda, Burundi, Burkina Faso, Central African Republic, Chad, Ethiopia, Lesotho, Malawi, Mali, Niger, Swaziland, Uganda, Zambia, Zimbabwe; Luxembourg, Austria, Switzerland, Andorra, San Marino, Belarus, Czech Republic, Hungary, Liechtenstein, Moldova, Serbia, Slovakia, and Vatican City; Afghanistan, Bhutan, Laos, Nepal, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan; Bolivia and Paraguay. Obviously, we've seen numerous countries that are, although landlocked, but have prospered much more than the ones surrounded by water. Examples are: Switzerland, Austria, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Hungary, Czech Republic, Botswana, Rwanda, Uganda. Interestingly, Botswana has consistently been the most progressive country in Africa. Consequently, the argument of being a landlocked country does not outweigh the need and desire of self-determination with the overall hope of attaining substantiated progressive and thriving economy. Biafra holds the promise that we all crave, God willing. Ideas, vision and strategic planning rule the world. Whether landlocked or not, any country can rise above mediocrity and be true to itself and its citizens and make its mark in the comity of nations. Finally, the Igbo Nation needs to prepare effectively for the rainy day. As things are, Nigeria has no promise of being eternal. What if our Southern neighbours go their separate ways, we can't dissuade them because we dread being landlocked. Instead, we can emerge as the territory where everyone would say: I wish I was in Biafra! Let's keep an open mind because God moves in mysterious ways |
Politics › Re: Landlocked Biafra Will Be An Economic Hell On Earth. by tonychristopher: 2:43pm On Dec 07, 2015 |
Ibaka sea port and Aba is just less than 20 nautical miles to atlantic, ahw about Igwe ocham, what about the Onitsha or can chigomiced: what happened to cargo planes and shipment of goods through cameroon via bakassi 
somebody aint doing his mathematics ryte here.... 
go and read the history of the biafran war b4 u come here and spill shit |