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IgboSubmarine:
In the process of trying to corner me you cornered yourself.


One thing you don't know is that in the ancient times many ethnic group settled in Igbo communities at the border due to our peaceful nature


As you go towards the center, you will come across communities that have little or no interaction with other tribes which would have altered their genetic make-up

Loolx.
So,where are the Jews hiding? And whose business it Is whether ibos have mixed or not? You simply get what you asked for nah or can you identify who's or whose not ibo in the whole of SE especially among ibos?

Funny isn't it but my point are clear

Lmao

GoldAlpha12:
Are you ignoring my comments, I clearly said not all igbo's are jews, and the igbo's that were are still Igbo but Jewish voice did not tell us how they knew that the random samples were of Igbo origin.

If not all ibo are Jews then it would be wrong to tag a whole tribe Jews, mixed or not it's all about the test, isn't it?

IgboSubmarine:
They failed the test because of intermarriage and other people settling down with them Eg. Some Igalas were accommodated in present Anambra state in the ancient times.

Are those igalas not part of African, nigeria,as explained here

GoldAlpha12:
I did not say that all igbo's are Jews, only some. And I did not say that the igbo's that were tested were not igbo's only it was not confirmed, as they took random samples.

Thank you you've just made my task easier.
By the way, ibo being Jews was base on assumption until the result test was conducted in that case, we can only focus on what we have on ground now, being ;


http://forward.com/fast-forward/379533/igbo-men-have-no-semitic-dna-according-to-controversial-test/


http://www.timesofisrael.com/messianic-jews-to-nigerians-youre-not-real-jews/

GoldAlpha12:
https://www.google.com/amp/dailypost.ng/2017/08/06/biafra-jewish-scientists-storm-anambra-present-confirmatory-dna-test-igbo-origin-photos/amp/

The International President, Jewish voice Ministries, Rabbi Jonathan Bernis and his team have stormed Nnewi, Anambra State, to present confirmatory DNA tests on the claims that the Igbo’s are of Israel descent.

I was aware of that but I wanted to corner the dude.

Now, let do the math :
• is ibo tribe jewish
• If so, why was the result came out negative, and does that means that those tested are not ibos
If they are,let me ask again,is ibo jews(as a whole)

GoldAlpha12:
E1A was not found in north-African/arabs population unlike E1b. Not all igbo's are E1A, the 124 igbo's were the ones that made Igbo get rejected because of their E1A. If the Igbo that were E1b got tested they would of been accepted. 124 samples is to small for a tribe that has over 30 million members.

Should we now conclude that all those tested are not ibos,and besides, why did they fail the test if ibos are Jews as we were made to believe before this revelation? And remember this quote :

Actually intermixing would not affect the YDNA, only the autosomal. But they trace through paternal linage, it does not say "You much be atleast 70% Jewish" it is your male ancestor must come from Jacob.

So, what's the problem here

IgboSubmarine:
You see why you are an illiterate and a ignorant person



The samples were collected only at Nnewi.


If the Jewish people have visited other communities, they will definitely get a different result.

Stop shouting. Provide prove to that.
Show me the link that states the samples were collected from Nnewi

GoldAlpha12:
The igbo's were rejected because of E1A, if the samples were E1b it would of been different.

Then that says it all.
Let me ask, why were they rejected, E1A?

IgboSubmarine:
You are the one acting like a troubled person because I presented a reality you failed and refused to acknowledged


If the Jews can be encouraged to get samples through out Igbo land especially places that married less of outsiders, they will get a different result from those at the fringes of Igbo land

I guess over 200 selected for the test from the whole of 5 eastern none of them was ibo Does that even make sense to you

Well,i believe the OP and I have done justice to these already so I don't have to argue that with you. Refer to the link he provided as per west African jewish link.

GoldAlpha12:
I didn't say that all igbo's have E1b1a, I said some do. I do recognize that igbo's have E1A as well. Like the Lemba tribe who had both E and J.

Then stop referring ibo as a whole to Jews. Doesn't that make sense now

You've proved my point here, ibo are not Jews but some as you put it earlier, and you also stated it within and spread across...Africa, remember now

Thank you

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IgboSubmarine:
You are making a fool of yourself by not acknowledging that intermarriage can altered a peoples genetic make-up


Some parts of Igbo land have intermarried less with other ethnic groups


New samples should be collected from those places of which I have listed some for you.

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Stop acting like your hurt. Be matured for once.
So tell me, who's exactly an ibo person
Can you identify them by appearance Dude, obviously the majority has the vote.
Mtchew

GoldAlpha12:
Watch the video again, Bernis list E1b as a Jewish haplogroup, its even the first that is listed. Now your just denying facts.

And I quote you :

Rabbi Bernis states in the video that 124 igbo's that tested had E1A as their haplogroup, which is the reason why they were not considered Jewish. He later goes on to list the Jewish[b] Haplogroups, he lists E1b (E1b1a, E1b1b) as a Jewish Haplogroup, a lot of igbo's have E1b as a their YDNA haplogroup. We need to do Jewish DNA testing on igbo's with E1b.

IgboSubmarine:
You are just been a nuisance on this thread


So many Igbo communities have intermarried with other tribes especially those communities at the fringes of Igboland which will definitely affect their genetic make-up


The Jewish people should have taken samples from Igbo communities that are at the center of Igboland and have less intermarriage with other tribes


For example, Anambra has an indigenous Igala community.

So imagine what will become of their genetic make-up after years of intermarriage with other ethnic groups



GoldAlpha12 which part of Igbo land are you from since you have E1B1 genetic make-up.

Stop acting like you are intelligent as it's not obvious in your response.


So pray tell me, does that mean those selected from 5 states of SE none of them was ibo or what?

Joke on you

GoldAlpha12:
Your denying that some igbo's do have E1b, making them Jewish according to Bernis.[b]

Now you are contradicting ya self bro.

The result read : [b]E1b[/b]were none jewish.

IgboSubmarine:
Lemba are a tribe in South Africa that have been confirmed Jews.

but among those ones were there any contradiction to the test results? Is ibo just a group of people or tribe,so why the contradiction in the result.

Lmao

GoldAlpha12:
That is not the point, if Jacob's DNA was found and it was tested to be E1b1a, but E1b1a is at an 80% rate in Africa, that does not make every African Jewish, it would just mean that Jacob's YDNA is E1b1a and it can be used to see if somebody has a chance of being Jewish, Jacob would come from a group of people that have E1b1a, however those people would not stop giving birth once Jacob was born, they would give birth to other people with E1b1a, but they would not be considered Jewish.

you've said it all,and you know what? The majority carry it. Because as it stands, the majority tested has so far proved(as it stands)ibo race isn't Jews. And yes,you are right again,the bolded approve my point and the statement you just made ;ibo not being Jewish but base on individuality. I am mee,jew too

IgboSubmarine:
Hope you won't claim Yorubas are Jews tomorrow


Being Jews is a tribal thing.

O really Prove it abeg

0b100100111:


I join you for the laughter


"Some"

The dude as subconsciously confessed. He fell for it. That is,ibo being Jews is a big lie strictly base on individuality not ibo tribe hence the contractions in the result.

GoldAlpha12:
According to 23andme, both E1A and E1b are very common in West Africa

Thank you
You've proved me right. Obviously,being Jews isn't a tribe thing but individual, I guess mee I am jaw too.

For,In that case it's wrong to call you a jew and not ibo people . Don't you agree

GoldAlpha12:
Some igbo's are Jews.

Some
Hahahahahaha

GoldAlpha12:
It's like the Lemba tribe, the buba clan is the one that show up to be J1. But Some Lemba's have E as a haplogroup not all igbo's will share the same haplogroup.

Are you now denying E1b's none ibo

Oga,there is nothing you can do to change the result. And if indeed the result varies and divides among the ibo group what does that tell you It means,anybody can be Jews, it's means it's not specific to ibo

GoldAlpha12:
And the ones that were tested were E1A not E1b.

But why should there be E1A in first place if indeed [all ] ibo are Jews as specified in 23andme

GoldAlpha12:
Are you saying 23andme, a DNA company is lying?

Oga,majority is what made ibo a tribe,race and nation how come of all that was tested none carried E1b1a what does that tell you

My man,seek and ye shall find the truth

GoldAlpha12:
The map shows where E1b1a can be found. E1b Igbo's are not bastards, they're Jewish. The darker the color, the higher the rate of E1b1a.

Funny ya!

Is that so,so where was over 200 tested and confirmed as none Jews inherited their E1b from?

Joke is on ya

GoldAlpha12:
A map of E1b1a from 23andme.

Oga, all these photos you are showing me doesn't explain anything at all.


Do the math now. Maybe you need to ask yourself why was over 200 tested from different family had E1A as their haplogroup at the same time
Well,since majority tested or carry E1A maybe we should conclude that the insignificance minority are bastards

GoldAlpha12:
What are you talking about? E1b1a is found in Nigeria, I also have E1b. The igbo's that were tested showed up to be E1A, some igbo's do have E1b. That is not contradicting.

Then maybe ye'all need to ask yourself why over .124 igbo's that tested had E1A as their haplogroup at the same time,what does that tell you As in,all of them tested to E1A,Funny isn't it

Abeg,e don do oga

Lmao

GoldAlpha12:
Rabbi Bernis states in the video that 124 igbo's that tested had E1A as their haplogroup, which is the reason why they were not considered Jewish. He later goes on to list the Jewish Haplogroups, he lists E1b (E1b1a, E1b1b) as a Jewish Haplogroup, a lot of igbo's have E1b as a their YDNA haplogroup. We need to do Jewish DNA testing on igbo's with E1b.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV5v3nygSoo

Funny, how the OP first message contradict the latter. Very funny

OP lied.
Here is the real,emerging fact that ibos are just imaginary Jews, fake jews

http://forward.com/fast-forward/379533/igbo-men-have-no-semitic-dna-according-to-controversial-test/

Has anybody featured or mentioned Wale adenuga,the owner of pepti institute,wapTV,binta school et al

StOla:
I concur!

Let's kick start abeg :

•http://www.awayoruba.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=294

kn23h:
My people and friends of my people,

I come with a proposal.
It can't be a one man mission.
We have to, need to, and must access and reawaken our people.

Due to ignorance, we have multiple Yorubas 1) clamoring for one Nigeria 2) thinking like FFK, Kemi Ololoyo and Fayose (who sent Ekiti people to go learn nonsense in Aba, when he could have sent them to Ogun or Lagos).

It seems like a great number of Yorubas are ignorant of the intellectual and businesses they own. They've been fed so much lies about some traders owning this percentage and that percentage, and the unfortunate thing about it is that, many have come to believe the lies.

Can we take the knowledge we've amassed on this thread beyond NL?

I am proposing creating a

1) FB &
2) Twitter

accounts to celebrate our people. However, this has to be carried out as an executable and SUSTAINABLE project.

The group would be used to share knowledge about Yorubas' economic, interest and many other things. We'll also accept guest posts. So it's a content based groups where people write pieces and submit to admin. People can also ask questions to foster conversations. The groups would also be used to reawaken Yoruba consciousness cos most of those silly Yoruba Facebook groups aren't doing anything meaningful other than posting pictures of babies wearing agbada and telling people to like posts


If you're in, please reply my quoting me and letting me know your stance. I give each man a week to stake his ground. Can we guarantee 200 members for a start?

Whatever you choose will not change my wonderful opinion of all of you. Much love


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fkj950ax:
But why will every state want to produce rice at the same capacity?
This is just another arm chair divisive post.
Read up about competitive advantage.
There are lots of stats in the world that makes no educated sense to compare them with each other.
Rice production by region is one. The comparison can never be balanced.

The emboldened doesn't even make any sense, and I can't remember mentioning that in any of my comment on here.
By the way, may I remind you again that these..thread is all about regional capacity and production

Thiiiiik yuuuuu