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Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 7:46pm On Apr 13
No explanation, the world is waiting for an answer to these things which have been said.




nospmoht:


Oga make sure you bring your camera crew next time
Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 5:43pm On Apr 13
To all on this thread, don't forget that this is also a very honest quest for answers. This isn't about people looking to hurt Christ embassy but rather get answers from their system...

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Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 3:44pm On Apr 13
Sadly the tricks have been exposed. Everyone on the stretchers and beds could get off those chairs and beds before they were prayed for. I explained the similar robotic celebrations seen in all.



nospmoht:

Make sure you come with your media crew to capture the moment
Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 3:42pm On Apr 13
For those based in the states. Sadly that enthusiasm is only reflected in Nigeria. For people in a myopic
Setting then I guess the enthusiasm comes into play. As I said, 95% of all the examples used in his teachings were plagiarised word for word, you won't know as your not vested in the world of Kenyon, hagin and Copeland. Neither have you read over 200 of his books as some have.

No enthusiasm snywatnkess maybe it's the imaginary 5 billion people watching


I've got a very busy schedule, ensuring the gospel reaches the world by helping almost every major ministry on earth in their media. I said remind me so that I can sit you next to Rev pease,.Tom etc who you admire.



nospmoht:

I don't have to let you know, the enthusiasm of people will let you know we are having a program
Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 8:04pm On Apr 02
Personal insults very common with you type. Cannot offer a single piece of counter evidence. Everyone who watched the videos in light of what I said will confirm I am right.

The fruits of the spirit are part of the holy spirit young man, not just blabbing in tongues. You tell a tree by it's fruit, personal insults definitely show no fruit from the master.

Don't forget next time you have a major meeting, let me know I'll put you in front row to massage your ego. Done it at a few of your meetings just to make folks like you happy. Might even get you to meet some of the so called folks you adore and can only see from TV. Said that to let you know I've done all that and when I say I spot something that don't right, you can take it to the bank.


nospmoht:

Seers, no evidence. Case no go fly. Shut up

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Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 6:09pm On Apr 02
Sadly you cannot be helped. We've all waited for an honest response but none has come. Last response to you as it isn't befitting.

This isn't a journey that one takes pleasure in, just like you, at some point I held him in such high esteem until what occured happened. As I've said, if you can prove us wrong, I'll be happy beyond all doubt. SirJohn, myself and others know what we saw and it's sad.



nospmoht:

Continue witch-hunting when you get evidence, carry yourself go police station to file a complaint or open a case against Pastor Chris. Instead of wasting time here
Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 4:43pm On Apr 02
Pastor Chris is not the gospel of Jesus Christ. Being anti Christ embassy based on the scam going on there doesn't make one antichrist.

I asked you numerous questions regarding what is happening at the healing school and how the innocent and desperate are being scammed to get footage, you couldn't answer.

You should be worried about the rapture not me.
.I have shown on page 9 details of the scam, choose to follow it through or not.

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nospmoht:


Sinners are everywhere around, how many do you take the gospel of Christ Jesus to? You are here trying to bring the healing ministry of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome down. Try harder, whilst you wait don't forget rapture is nigh and the coming of our Lord Jesus is close.
Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 10:46pm On Apr 01
God Almighty gives Wisdom, it's only profitable when you direct it. Folks like you would have been scammed by Peter Popoff for centuries and won't even know. No disrespect your arguments are the most shallow I have come across in my life.

Don't forget what the scriptures says of Christ, " for even the Pharisees were amazed at his wisdom,"

Not one point you have made has shown the wisdom of God. You don't even seem to know the word. I'm waiting for better CE representative to step up. Sadly you're doing damage to their PR. In global media settings, there is a reason why lawyers ask staff not to make statements until its been approved by Legal.
Unfortunately you're doing a very bad job in defending CE and whatever type of gospel you believe in. Definitely not the gospel of Christ as it's lacking his wisdom.

nospmoht:


Who set the test, man abi God? Hypocrite
Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 10:38pm On Apr 01
What is the truth and don't forget to answer this basic questions whilst at it..

nospmoht:


You are far from the truth
Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 3:53pm On Apr 01
You can't answer a single question because there is truth in all that's been said. As I said no single ounce of wisdom has come from you in regards to the allegations. This isn't my blog, Seun Osewa I think owns it. Not a blogger, I work for various global televangelist and sadly pastor Chris when examined under the lens of what I showed you, isn't passing his test.


Let me educate you, Pablo Escobar was very philanthropic, he built more hospitals than Christ embassy have, that doesn't make him a saint does it?


https://www.google.com/amp/s/voi.id/en/amp/57828

Philanthropic work is a well known stunt of even the bad folks.

I'm assuming you do not know Pablo Escobar. Read about him, he was the worlds bigger drug lord. He still caused massive damage.


https://www.biography.com/crime/pablo-escobar


nospmoht:

Let me give you news for your failed blog
https://www.facebook.com/share/prVkTXY5D2xTzwyG/?mibextid=oFDknk
Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 3:36pm On Apr 01
You can't answer a single question because there is truth in all that's been said. As I said no single ounce of wisdom has come from you in regards to the allegations. This isn't my blog, Seun Osewa I think owns it. Not a blogger, I work for global televangelist and sadly pastor Chris when examined under the lens of what I showed you, isn't passing his test.



nospmoht:

Let me give you news for your failed blog
https://www.facebook.com/share/prVkTXY5D2xTzwyG/?mibextid=oFDknk
Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 11:32am On Apr 01
Sadly your time to run away has come. Time for you to put your tail between your legs and run away . You couldn't even defend anything and your attempt is horribly bad.. Read page 9 of this write-up you'll understand the methods. You can't take cameras into the healing school and you should know that. You've resorted to personal insults and I'm not going there. My gaze is focused, please answer the questions below. You are a disgrace in defending the truth that you know, so far you're scoring 1/50 in terms of performance.


I'll ask the questions below. For those of you who are new to this thread, I wrote about the happenings of the healing school,, having gone there. Read the long write-up on page 9, it's very long and has about 4 sections. The first comment was also from a victim of the healing school. Please find link below and questions which CE members cannot answer. Two videos also show his trick clearly in operation


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0gJL1ciXbA?si=ONPVlTH0RRTm-jhF




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLvgNFV4eks&t=30s



https://www.nairaland.com/8039722/pastor-chris-heals-nine-people/8


One of the first persons to expose the scam at the healing school was SirJohn in 2008. My experience was in the early 2000s. Here is his own story


https://www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school


Here are the questions once again..

For CE members please answer these questions. Below. I'm asking once again.


Did the lady on the voiceover, Pastor Chris and others give the impression that they were healed?

Why do they all have similar celebrations and a striking pattern, could this be because celebrating as if healing is part of the classes at the healing school? Read my write-up

Why do a lot who are waiving their hands still look dejected if you look closely?

Could they all get off wheelchairs and stretchers before this meeting? I talked about how everyone he prays for can get off wheelchairs, if you can't get up the wheelchair, you are not meeting pastor Chris.

Was the impression painted that they could not get off a wheelchair etc?

Why are they all celebrating in the same way, hands up etc?

If pastor Chris does do Miracles, why would he need to fake some or deceive the public of a false perception of healings taking place?

Is pastor Chris really like your regular church preacher who has one or two so called miracles with loads of trickery added to increase numbers?


How many percent do you think were healed?

How many of these were portrayed as being healed from the videos you watched?


Why can't pastor Chris minister outside an atmosphere that he doesn't have control of? Why can't he minister in any other church?




nospmoht:

Which opposition, who knows you? Failed blogger.
If you want people to take you seriously, then provide evidence. Everybody can write epistle just so you know.
Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 10:52pm On Mar 31
Think about this for a second. I'm high up in global ministry and I'm facing such opposition from people like you who are totally ignorant of churches/ ministry, the word, you don't have access to any of the things you defend, what do you think it'll be like for those lot?
I've said it before in fifty lifetimes, you will not have access to any of these preachers you blindly support, not to talk of their finances or books or data and figures.

People like you are the reason victims don't speak up, because you and your camp come up with all sorts of vile abuse against them. You've met a match in Christ. This who have come out to speak about the scam of the healing school has been abused etc by wicked humans like yourself. The average victim cannot defend himself against wicked folks like you, so I'm glad you've met your match who has silenced you all.


I've put every single CE member down where they belong in this convo because of God's grace, his beautiful spirit who defends truth and also the vast knowledge of Ministries and how their brainwashed supporters behave. I know every single reaction as I've climbed way up the ladder to the top and I've seen the different opposition that comes in church. God knew this day will come where having seen your actions from the very top, I'll be able to speak up for the oppressed. All things do really work for the good.


You and your camp abuse, use vile languages, threats etc and you expect your average Joe to stand against your manner of response which doesn't smell of the fragrance of Christ? You don't realise the precious Lord and his presence via his spirit was in my room today, I'm in fellowship with him. Hallelujah to him for his grace.

Some of those who support this man even say you are allowed to forward the gospel through lies and deceit.
Go through the chats, most of your camp lack fruits of the spirit. The holy spirit isn't just tongues my friend, he brings purity, love, wisdom and power.


On the higher levels of ministry, they actually kill anything standing in the way of people. I've seen it happen at the very top of the top of global ministry. Most will rid anyone standing in the way of over $100 million USD a year which is what some easily make.

You know not the scriptures and the power of God. Have you not read where it is written.

‭Proverbs 31:8 NKJV‬
[8] Open your mouth for the speechless, In the cause of all who are appointed to die. [9] Open your mouth, judge righteously, And plead the cause of the poor and needy.
[8] Open your mouth for the dumb [those unable to speak for themselves], for the rights of all who are left desolate and defenseless; [I Sam. 19:4; Esth. 4:16; Job 29:15, 16.]

I'll give you another translation in love.


‭Proverbs 31:8-9 ERV‬

[8] Speak up for people who cannot speak for themselves. Help people who are in trouble. [9] Stand up for what you know is right, and judge all people fairly. Protect the rights of the poor and those who need help.


You still haven't answered a single question. Not one, because the spirit comes whentruth is spoken.

Go on your knees tonight, speak to your father, not just in tongues. I've seen you new generation just blab in tongues for hours and don't actually speak to the Lord. Most of the tongues (not all) is questionable but that's for another day. Go to him and say, "dear God a person has brought such accusations are they true and if so open my eyes and forgive me". He's your father go to him and ask.


For a moment you thought about prayer but also you're almost at a point where you would want to hurt me if you could because what you believe in might be shaken. It's now all me, myself and I and that's a dangerous place to be in. Repent from your works lest you be like Cain who slew Abel. This principal isn't just about this Convo, it's about your life on a whole.

nospmoht:


Where are they? Are you there mouthpiece thank videos dey. Make your claims
Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 7:02pm On Mar 31
And you've ignored hundreds of complaints from people who were at the healing school and paraded as healed?

I'm not being funny people like you who in fifty lifetimes will never have access to pastor Chris defend what you don't even know about. I can sit you next to rev Tom, Rev Eddy etc when next you have a major meeting based on just who I know in the faith. This is based on how much I have grown in the Pentecostal field. There is literally no Pentecostal ministry that is amongst the top five on earth that I don't have access to. I said that not to brag, but to show you that you are speaking to someone who knows their onions. I can leave ministry A in Texas and ministry B, C D and E will say I start in two days time. Texas is the heart of the Bible belt, once you have conquered Texas and worked for major televangelist out here, you can work with anyone. Done the rounds with a few.


Go to the healing school, go through the whole process. Look for those who are totally disabled and cannot get up from a wheelchair. Then ask them if they can or will meet pastor Chris. I've been where you are in a place I was at way back in the early 2000's.

I sincerely wish this wasn't true but it is what it is sadly.


By the way I'm still waiting for an honest answer. Go back and watch all his healing school videos, the same.pattern I outlined.

So have a fab Easter in all of this. You're scred of your bubble being popped. That's normal, put your faith in Jesus he'll catch you so you don't fall .after the experience.

If I am proven wrong, you don't think I'll be happy, or SirJohn and others who have been screaming for years about what is happening there? No one takes joy in such battles, however no one takes joy in seeing the sick and vulnerable being abused by tricks.




nospmoht:

Too many words means nothing. Trying to put the man of God pastor Chris down. Try all you can
Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 5:58pm On Mar 31
It is actually very sad. If this man is not who he is, then what else is real, minus the late TB Joshua, no one performed so called miracles like pastor Chris.


I covered it in page 9 of this thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/8039722/pastor-chris-heals-nine-people/8

I still wish this wasn't true but there are hundreds of witnesses who are now coming out. I have asked CE members questions and not one of them could give an answer.


Gift96:


This thread need to make front page right from the exactly place you started to describe the playstyle in the Healing school.

There is a Con master that needs to be exposed.
Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 3:18pm On Mar 31
Sadly you do not sound like him in this world. To be like him in this world is a spiritual as well as physical transformation. It's easy to defend a ministry blindly. I once did that until I was privy to manage the finances if some of the worlds biggest ministries. I can't vouch for some of them, even to the tune of just $10. It's okay to defend what you believe in, but gather all your facts and do not think for once you can't be deceived. For if it were possible, even the elect will be deceived. I've shown you the methods, let's just hope you don't experience the same shock we all had, but most importantly I hope you have the faith to still stand if I'm proven true.

Still no answer to any of the questions. A lot of people are desperately waiting as what they saw affected them. I quote sir John who shared his experience in 2008 and hasn't waivered in his view.

"I felt like sinking through the solid ground, I couldn’t believe my eyes. Once in a while I would utter a word of prayer, I’d say: “Lord please don’t let this be what I think”

https://www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school


@SirJohn if you can reach out, please do. Many thanks.
Not interested in knowing your identity, however since you've been through this path I'd appreciate it.

The best Easter gift any CE member could give me is in showing that what majority of those at the healing school saw was not true. That experience was like a horrible dream. You sit there saying to yourself ," dear God may this not be true", but sadly it was.


nospmoht:

Maybe you should go and read your Bible again. As God is, so are we in this world. I am Jesus Christ as well.
Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 1:32pm On Mar 31
A Happy Easter to you too. Stay blessed in his wonderful name..


ishayaauta:


Your sense of maturity is glaring, you asked the right questions... sometimes people can't see their true self in the mirror.
Imagine the kind of words he was spewing in the name of defending the Gospel.
I'm a believer, and spirit field I'll rather not say a word on a topic I've no knowledge of. That which we have seen and handle the word of truth we thus give testimony.

In all your accounts you said you were there, and gave an account of what was going on. I had expected the defendants to pass through the same process with proof and give their testimony.

All we've been seeing is people vouching and giving excuses without first hand information. For that I gave kudos to you.

Having said this; I'm happy that you still have faith in God, and you still believe in miracles. The fact that people didn't read this part in all your testimony is still baffling.

Scripture will say test all spirits and take that which is good. I love the word, and I always check what my pastor preach if it's consistent with the word. I'm not a blind follower, even tho most pastors wants that... I'm greatful that God made me learn from the father's of old before the current "father's" we've now. And the new crop of Pentecostal pastors.

Do have a beautiful Easter celebration, Christ is risen.

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Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 1:02pm On Mar 31
Insults you use. Such vulgar words should not come forth from those who are known in Christ. You lack the fruits of the spirit my friend, with a lack of self control. I'm assuming your next move would have been physical violence.

Here are the questions once again..

For CE members please answer these questions. Below. I'm asking once again.


Did the lady on the voiceover, Pastor Chris and others give the impression that they were healed?

Why do they all have similar celebrations and a striking pattern?

Why do a lot who are waiving their hands still look dejected if you look closely?

Could they all get off wheelchairs and stretchers before this meeting?

Was the impression painted that they could not get off a wheelchair etc?

Why are they all celebrating in the same way, hands up etc?

If pastor Chris does do Miracles, why would he need to fake some or deceive the public of a false perception of healings taking place?

Is pastor Chris really like your regular church preacher who has one or two so called miracles with loads of trickery added to increase numbers?


How many percent do you think were healed?

How many of these were portrayed as being healed from the videos you watched?


Why can't pastor Chris minister outside an atmosphere that he doesn't have control of?

I love the holy spirit. The holy spirit isn't just about speaking in tongues as you modern Christians think. The spirit helps you bear fruit, you lack Christ wisdom and you my friend have no fruits on your.tree. I really wonder what vine you are connected to, Christ or Christ embassy. By the fruits you know them brother. Shout glory.

I would be sincerely happy if you could produce the answers to what was seen.


Selah





Tonitoniton:
u sound every inch like a bastard. There is no question that u asked. U were only looking for a cheap means to blackmail the church of God in which u have failed totally. The gate of hell will not prevail over the church of God. And be careful how u mention the Holy Spirit cos any one with Holy Spirit will not spew the toxic u have been spewing for some time now. U have no business with the house God. It either u repent or pay for ur evil works so far

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Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 11:45am On Mar 31
Big difference, pastor Chris is not the Lord Jesus. You couldn't answer any of the questions. It sounds just like a scene in the Bible.

I asked questions as guided by the spirit and you had not a single answer. Do not forget, even the Pharisees marvelled at the wisdom shown by Christ. Not one of you folks has been able to give an answer because only the spirit can help you with such wisdom that is visible to both the saved and unsaved.

I gave intricate details that show why the world and the church could not accept the video on the front page as genuine. I explained why they al jump off the wheelchairs and all. The world is waiting for an answer from you, but you cannot give one.

As I said I could sit you next to the top shots at CE at your next healing streams. It'll help massage your ego but that's about it. You are not dealing with someone who isn't deep in the faith. Probably no major televangelist on earth I don't help in getting the gospel to the world to. I still have contacts at CE at the highest levels and I mean high as in high.

I gave you a task regarding those at the healing school, ensure you follow it through.



nospmoht:

Even when our Lord Jesus Christ performed healing miracles twas people like you that questioned him. So I am not surprised.
No evidence just too much stories. Another healing streams is coming better register so you can be healed

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Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 10:24pm On Mar 30
You're speaking to someone who followed the ministry from 1998. Ofcourse. None of these diseases etc.

As I and others said, our world's came crashing down when we realised all isn't as it seems..


I had literally hundreds of his tapes etc. well over 400 teachings of his. You folks are even new to Christ embassy compared to where I've come from. Two kinds of righteousness. The God kind of faith. Rise and be healed. Yes I am fully aware of his teachings as I followed him till I realised what is on ground isn't what's really happening.

The fourth dimension before he went into other ones.
Zoe the God kind of life. Etc etc etc..

For those of us who have followed other major ministries on earth and actually worked for them, you'll know these are topics gotten from EW Kenyon,Kenneth E Hagin and pastor Copeland.

Every topic and example pastor Chris gave were lifted out of the works of Hagin and Copeland, most times word for word. Unless you had followed these others, you would think they were new examples, allegories and revelations being pushed by pastor chris. Every single example from the one of the armoured car in the new superman, was lifted from Hagins work. For most in CE who did not delve into other materials even though they knew of them, it was all new stuff, hot off the press.

Kenyon's team had accused Hagin of plagiarism and there might have been an out of court settlement.


BePrepared:



HV u listen to pastor Chris message on healing b4

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Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 10:22pm On Mar 30
I can't comment on that, however she does have a blog where she writes and edifies.


https://www.pastoranita.org/blog/79-soul-winning

https://www.pastoranita.org/blog/51-my-busy-week

https://www.pastoranita.org/blog/43-putting-on-a-show-who-is-watching

She however wrote an interesting write-up which have glimpses. Find it here.

https://www.pastoranita.org/blog/108-happy-anniversary-to-the-best-couple-in-the-world


This remains his personal business to be fair with him and I wouldn't judge him based on this. Couples sometimes separate and come back or respect each others privacy. I think their privacy should be respected. This is their personal business in all honesty.


SQLmastar:
The only question I have: why did Pst Anita and Chris get divorced?
Why couldn't they settle their differences?
I mean, several people looked up to them!
Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 9:59pm On Mar 30
Glad you're there, let's wait till the crescendo and you get back to us once you've gone through the main night of the Healing school and completed it all. Your still being being prepared/ groomed for the final night and for footage that suits their script.

You've probably done part 1 of the school i.e given video stating you are not well etc..

The big night you'll jump around etc to claim your healing. Won't say more. Don't forget to also speak to the other participants once it's over, those who will be told that to claim their healing they have to react and act healed when pastor Chris lays hands on them. Few days before the event they would have told those who are going to see pastor Chris of this. Go and look for all who cannot walk off a wheelchair and ask them if they are graduating and get back to me.

You're the perfect case study. Don't forget to go round once the big night is over, speak to those who would be good to jump around in celebration in order to claim their healing. You'll see stuff as the date gets closer.



nospmoht:

I am in healing school. Stop spreading lies
Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 8:41pm On Mar 30
You are totally brainwashed. If anyone in my home does evil, I will personally lock them up. That includes my father, my loving mother etc. They will be more upset I do not stop the madness than leave them to go on in their evil. My mother would rather I locked her up for her evil if she committed them than cover up the multitude of her sins. She would also get me locked up and expose my evil if I committed them. Does that mean she doesn't love me, on the contrary it proves her love for me. I would expect you to lock me up if I was performing evil. As I said loads of priest raped boys and got away with it because of silly evil humans like you. I cannot believe I am having a discussion with someone after using an allegory of a peadophile and he has the guts to say if I have reported my family.


If your pastor is a peadophile, would you report him to the authorities

Challenging pastor Chris doesn't make one an antichrist. Come up with something that shows God's wisdom at work in you.


I can boldly say all the sisters who have been raped, kids who have been raped by pychoes in church are covered up by demonic folks like you. You need to repent, be born again get filled with the spirit and not an enabler of wrong things in God's house.

We had another one on this same thread arguing with us that it is acceptable to deceive people and fake miracles to forward the gospel of Christ. What nonsense have we in the body of Christ?

Should Peter popoff have been exposed

You couldn't answer any question because the spirit of God will not help you in such a moment. He is a precious holy spirit who helps establish works done in righteousness.

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Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 6:27pm On Mar 30
Far from it. It shows you're probably confused that I love the Lord, follow and actually work for some the top ministries on earth and could call out someone who has taken advantage of the sick..

There is nothing antichrist about any of my write-ups but rather anti embassy and Anti folks who twist the name of Christ such as Peter popoff.

You haven't answered a single question that was asked to you and Christ embassy members.

Followers of groups that are challenged always use the same tactics. Peter popoffs followers used the same tactics and called those who challenged him antichrist etc.

Do everyone a big favour and I ask politely, answer the questions I asked.


Prove every other person who went to the healing school and saw what they saw wrong that is all we are asking. Could it be an accident that this is the report from a lot of people at the healing school.


Look at the video Seun posted that brought this up, can you explain to us if all of those on the wheelchairs and stretchers could previously walk?

Can you also explain why they have a very unique similar pattern of celebration?

As I said, I would be the happiest man on earth if what I saw was a terrible dream. My image of pastor Chris shattered immediately. Take some sick to the healing school and you'll notice all this.


I'll add this this. People like you are the problem with Christianity. When people report acts like peadophilia in a church, your kind are the sort to cover it up. Thousands of people kept their mouths shut when priest of various denominations were abusing children. If an accusation has been brought, do the decent thing and find out that's all I'm saying based on what majority of the healing school students saw.

I don't think you understand the damage this did to some of the people at the healing school. A few died a few days after they were paraded as healed with them jumping up and down as an act of faith as I described.
Not to mention the effect on their faith and love they had for pastor Chris. This caused mental trauma to some of them. If pastor Chris isn't real as he claims, what is then real?


Not only did they feel used, they also suddenly had to deal with the fact that pastor Chris wasn't who they thought he was. Have some compassion and stop adding to what those at the healing school have already been through.


[quote author=Tonitoniton post=129186946][/quote]

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Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 2:33pm On Mar 30
Not a single reply from CE members on this thread. Specific questions were asked and not one of them with the so called wisdom of the spirit can answer this. When you defend the cross and its work, the spirit will come in full force to give you words to speak. When you defend man, you're wasting your time.

The Bible says even the Pharisees marvelled as such wisdom that came from Christ. Amongst believers and unbelievers, not one CE member has been able to say a thing that radiates with the wisdom of Christ regarding these accusations.

Can one of you get pastor Joe who used to be in Christ embassy Bayelsa on this thread. SirJohn used to sort him out in the days. For those of you who are new in the loop. Read sir John's thread here

https://www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school


And I wrote I long similar write-up on page 9 of this thread.


https://www.nairaland.com/8039722/pastor-chris-heals-nine-people/8. Go through this thread and you'll how this man has fooled the world like Peter popoff did for years.

He cannot preach outside a Christ embassy setting as he needs the scene and full cooperation from folks to pull off his stunt. Read comments, loads of those at the healing school have been screaming for justice, whilst his brainwashed followers rant about bitterness


I will also be putting this as a separate topic on Nairaland soon. The time of oppressing people who are hungry for the Lord, sick and desperate is over. We don't need to lie on God's behalf to improve his image. Satan is and always will be the father of lies.

If you remove these extra tricks, sorry but this man is no different from any average pastor in Nigeria, still believing that one day he will be used like pastor Chris etc.
Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 12:15pm On Mar 30
Read my article for crying out loud. They aren't hired, they are being fooled based on what they are told to do to receive their healings.. that is why all the celebrations at the healing school are virtually the same.

Read page 9 of this thread, the very long writeups, you'll find about 5 of them on the same page. Read, read and read.. here is the link

I asked CE members questions and not one of them with their so called wisdom of the spirit can give an answer.. I am a first hand participant of the healing school, sent there for weeks and it is a sad place once it's over. Participants are literally barred once they get the footage they need to fool the crowd.


Read that article.

The reason folks think they are healed is because if the following.

Pastor Chris came in, he laid hands on them and they all start jumping round celebrating. I covered why they celebrate the way they do. Not one single person was healed amongst those who got of the wheelchairs t the last meeting. If you can't get off a wheelchair, you can never meet pastor Chris oyakhilome, Rev Tom ,Eddy useless Owase, pastor Shola, pastor dele and Deaconess Gbadamosi all ensure of this. They used to be there back in the days.

https://www.nairaland.com/8039722/pastor-chris-heals-nine-people/8

It starts off with sadly I too was a victim of Christ embassy's healing school. Keep reading..






FatherCHRISTMAS:


It's good to ask questions and raise awareness when something doesn't seem to conform to Christ's standards.
I believe you are on a good course but you need to be able to prove beyond reasonable doubts these deliverance aren't genuine.

It takes alot of guts to hire over 9 people to pull of a drama and expect them not to tell their friends and families about it.

Can you really prove these things beyond reasonable doubt? Apart from these videos? Can you provide the people who were healed?

Know also that a man can lose his healing if he goes back to his old ways. Let's say a cripple was healed, he can become crippled again if he goes back to his old ways or don't pray enough.

Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 12:09pm On Mar 30
It shows clear deceit or a confused mind which isn't what God gives his children. Mature spiritually, take a stand and run with it till the end. Don't be like the double minded man the book of James 1 speaks about, rather Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, quit you like men, be strong according to 1 cor 16:13.

In other words Paul was quoting the Philistines who went in faith to attack the Israelites on one occasion.

“Be strong, and quit yourselves like men, O ye Philistines, that ye be not servants unto the Hebrews, as they have been to you: quit yourselves like men, and fight . 1 sam.4:16


It was a do or die affair, they had made up their minds, stuck to their resolve and obtained a victory when Israel walked in disobedience. It's a resolve to being steadfast..


‭I Samuel 4:6-10 NKJV‬

[6] Now when the Philistines heard the noise of the shout, they said, “What does the sound of this great shout in the camp of the Hebrews mean?” Then they understood that the ark of the Lord had come into the camp. [7] So the Philistines were afraid, for they said, “God has come into the camp!” And they said, “Woe to us! For such a thing has never happened before. [8] Woe to us! Who will deliver us from the hand of these mighty gods? These are the gods who struck the Egyptians with all the plagues in the wilderness. [9] Be strong and conduct yourselves like men, you Philistines, that you do not become servants of the Hebrews, as they have been to you. Conduct yourselves like men, and fight!” [10] So the Philistines fought, and Israel was defeated, and every man fled to his tent. There was a very great slaughter, and there fell of Israel thirty thousand foot soldiers.


These are your two comments to show deceit..






FatherCHRISTMAS:


Hello Kobo I did had a good reason why I modified my post to remove that sentence.
That doesn't mean any level of deceit rather, I reevaluated my conclusion.

Which is fine by me

Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 11:59am On Mar 30
You just modified your statement which shows deceit which isn't from a good God..here is your original statement below.






FatherCHRISTMAS:


It took me some time and I have watched them as you requested. They don't look sad or dejected

But I what If it's just coincidence and the way you see it, isn't the way it really is. Although everything fits

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Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 11:55am On Mar 30
I'm not the only one saying no one was healed. In my set eventually they barred all the healing school students from evening coming close to the venue. People were depressed, sad and crying. Some were threatening to expose it all..


Once you read the long article on page 9, understand what is happening then you'll know this man is a scam. I have worked for the highest of ministries on earth, the ones you guys buy their books from. I can comfortable resign my job in the global ministry I'm in and by two days time I'll be employed by any one of the top five global ministries on earth within the Texas Bible belt region of the states which is where the major ministries always have their offices.


I've worked with all sorts of churches so I'm able to spot a scam than your average Joe .someone should make a call out to all the participants at this last healing stream session and you'll hear the same story.

For CE'S team, you're dealing with someone who understands church media ministries at the highest levels, your time of scamming the sick is coming to an end. Your time of purging is now.




FatherCHRISTMAS:


It took me some time and I have watched them as you requested. I must say I'm speechless.

But I what If it's just coincidence and the way you see it, isn't the way it really is. Although everything fits
Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 11:48am On Mar 30
You didn't read the article? Go back and read of how no one is healed and how they are scammed into jumping around. Keep reading there are about 4 or five of those long writeups below..

honeyB2018:

But you didn't state what they did to you wrong after this long epistle,
Can we hear it?
Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 11:39am On Mar 30
Read this article I wrote on page 9 and that of sir John in 2008 that details events at the healing school. These are first had reports of people at the healing school and many are now coming out to say it's a scam. Hundreds can verify that it's a scam. Watch these pastor Chris videos with this knowledge in mind. The two videos below


https://www.nairaland.com/8039722/pastor-chris-heals-nine-people/8#129081350


https://www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0gJL1ciXbA?si=ONPVlTH0RRTm-jhF



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLvgNFV4eks&t=30s


I have asked questions here and not single Christ embassy member can give answers. I'll ask them once again


For CE members please answer these questions. Below. I'm asking once again.


Did the lady on the voiceover, Pastor Chris and others give the impression that they were healed?

Why do they all have similar celebrations and a striking pattern?

Why do a lot who are waiving their hands still look dejected if you look closely?

Could they all get off wheelchairs and stretchers before this meeting?

Was the impression painted that they could not get off a wheelchair etc?

Why are they all celebrating in the same way, hands up etc?

If pastor Chris does do Miracles, why would he need to fake some or deceive the public of a false perception of healings taking place?

Is pastor Chris really like your regular church preacher who has one or two so called miracles with loads of trickery added to increase numbers?


How many percent do you think were healed?

How many of these were portrayed as being healed from the videos you watched?


Why can't pastor Chris minister outside an atmosphere that he doesn't have control of?

Why can't he minister in a country without a huge Christ embassy audience. Jesus said go into the world, not countries that have your moulded audience to preach.


Why has it taken Christ Embassy members days to come back with any answers?


As I said, only a handful of people on earth have access to the healing school.

Peter popoff pulled off similar stunts, find video here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLKXRVScOwE?si=IZv6MiqtAmfMsP7A










FatherCHRISTMAS:

If he heals them, you would still have a reason to doubt his miracles.

Both Cobhams and aiyefele are probably comfortable with their situation that's why they haven't visited his church yet.
One day if they decide to visit, they'll be made new if they believe.


These things are real and they work on faith and believing
Religion / Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 12:52am On Mar 30
I am a total believer in positive confessions which is very common in the word of Faith movement. They could have gotten them to jump around all throughout their stay at the healing school if they really believed in it. What these lot want is footage for their programmes which makes pastor Chris look like some superman.


How to receive your healing was the name of that class if I remember. When pastor Chris touches you, you have to jump and celebrate and call it into being. That is gold footage to keep the madness scam going on. Most of you can't believe this because you could never do this to others. My response, Welcome to EARTH.





Odidigboigbo:
I understand you better. But confession of faith and action of faith really works. I have used it in a couple of times and it has worked for me.

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