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Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Truthfullone19:
Here is a recent video that shows this process at Christ Embassy.

I had watched the video of the healing school of the man being healed, when someone sent me a video of the same man asking for help and asking if I could donate.

He had been portrayed as healed at the healing school even as I had stated, with the usual rhetoric of him jumping around as an act of faith which is portrayed as signs of him being healed, only for him to show up looking for help.

To take advantage of people's situations for selfish purposes is wrong as is not of Christ.


Original video which showed him healed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCcWDkaaRdU?si=yluN3s8wA7POFFIE


This here is the recent video that was shared online asking people for funds. I do my best to help people in need so I always get request from people regarding giving.


https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=916333084355777&vanity=aprokodoctor


In this video, the man who had jumped around and portrayed as healed is truly seeking help. The only reason pastor Chris is at the level he is on is based on the extraordinary miracles which is claimed at Christ embassy.

If you remove all the drama, could it be that he's almost no different from the average minister who rarely sees great miracleshuh






P.s watch as these videos will soon go offline.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Truthfullone19:
Part 6: Jesus said, “Go into the world.” He did not say to go to countries which already have Christ Embassy branches and hold crusades/meetings. 80% of the people at the meetings they hold are CE members and are brainwashed to believe the drama that unfolds before their very eyes. From members buying their Rhapsody book and giving it out for free, to saying it’s the most-bought book on Earth, which is funny, to other nonsense, you couldn’t make it up. When you follow the trail, it always leads down to finances. Finances that 99.9% of church members would never get to see the inner workings of, yet will defend with their lives.

Some would argue that certain stones are best left untouched, but put yourself in the position of those who have been affected by this scam. A number of those who were scammed died not long after in misery. For some, it is like an old widow who thinks her late husband was the best man on Earth, not knowing he had many women on the side and kids.

Do you let her enjoy her bliss and utopia and carry on till death, or do you burst that bubble and burst that nonexistent image the man had with people? Do you look at the wife while making your decision, or the other innocent victims? That’s exactly the case with CE.

Go round your branches and show me those who have been gloriously healed that are in attendance. There are simply none anywhere.

How many of you here could scam others this way? We, as Christians, sometimes look at others through the eyes of our innocence, which can be dangerous.

Wake up, folks at CE. Ask real questions for once in your life and stop morphing to give excuses at each phase. Serious answers are needed from your ministry. There are hundreds of abused people walking the earth right now without anyone to even talk to, who have been taken advantage of by CE.

I have had CE members tell me that even if the miracles are faked or staged, anything is allowed to propagate this gospel, including deception. I have wondered why anyone would have to stage miracles when the gospel, when preached in its fullness, is supposed to create them.

Hundreds of people have come out to say they have been scammed, including the recent lady on Professor X's channel and yet sheep choose to be blind. This was a CE member born into this group.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Truthfullone19: 10:50am On Aug 14
A lot of us had hoped that these things we saw were not through, but it is what is is.

Christ embassy members themselves know you cannot go in there to investigate or debunk these claims as you will be beaten up and your phone's seized.

You can't even record in their meetings, you'll be called out by the programmed bots. Only a major power house like the BBC can pull off a discrete stunt.


I spoke to a woman this week whose sister was a victim of this scam, she had breast cancer. There are hundreds who have died after CE portrayed them as healed. A few in my class died and that's the end of their stories.

Some could not even tell their loved ones what had happened to them as they had families who were against the Pentecostal doctrines from the start.


This is all madness packaged as spirituality.

The world wants to be deceived, so let it be deceived" is the English translation of the classic Latin phrase Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur. Often cited in philosophy, literature, and social commentary, it reflects a cynical view that people frequently prefer comfortable illusions over harsh realities. The truth is too harsh and frightening so they bury their heads in the sand and live with a false sense of reality based on lies they embrace as comfort.



SirJohn:
Many have wondered and would like to know the truth about healing and miracle claims from the healing school of Christ Embassy. I’d like say a few things about the genuineness of these miracles which have sparked endless questions. What I’m about to say may sound shocking to you but it is the truth. it is a first hand account of my experience at the healing school.

What you see on loveworld videos/TV, especially miracle testimonies no matter how believable they appear, are simply what Pastor Chris and his TV crew wants you to see. The truth is that a larger number of people including his pastors, partners and even you hardly ever know what goes on behind the camera scenes.

I was at healing school May 2008 session and the discoveries I made blew my mind and shook the very foundation of my faith. I spent a total of 4 weeks at the healing (it had two sessions and each ran for two weeks) this period of time at the healing school afforded me the opportunity to observe certain unusual happenings which I must reveal.

I have been a member and a consistent financial partner of the ministry since 2004. Pastor Chris Oyakhilome had been my role model, mentor, prophet and father. I have followed his teachings and doctrines to the letter so much that you couldn't talk with me for 10 Min's without knowing I was his follower.
I had taken someone who was wheelchair bound as a result of spinal cord injury to the Healing school with hope that Pastor Chris would minister to him at the end of the session (at least this is what I was made to believe from several healing school publications) but this was not to be, and the events that followed were shocking and beyond my imagination.

After the first session, there was to be a healing service where the students having received faith to be healed, were put on the healing line to be ministered to by Pastor Chris. This was where my questions started. The reason is that not only did we not make it to the healing line but several other folks with obvious physical disabilities were also not put on the healing line. I made efforts to find out the criteria for the selection that was made; this was what I found out:
I discovered that all wheelchair cases taken to the healing line for ministration were people whose conditions were not such that they couldn't stand or walk. in other words, the people you see popping out of wheelchairs  in those videos can both previously stand and walk. They are carefully selected through a process I will discuss later.

Secondly, to my utter amazement, I also discovered that several other people whom I had seen on different occasions walking around the hall unaided and without any sign of pain or disability during the two weeks session were put on wheelchairs or made to lie on stretchers during this healing service.
After much waiting, the “Man of God” walks in touching every one on the healing line and then proceeds to the wheelchair section; with one touch here and there he instructs them to get up “and they do” wild shouts of excitement reverberated across the auditorium as partners and pastors who have been specially invited to witness the miracles jumped for joy. I felt like sinking through the solid ground, I couldn’t believe my eyes. Once in a while I would utter a word of prayer, I’d say: “Lord please don’t let this be what I think”

I remember a particular man who came for that session; he had been involved in a motor accident which left him with a spinal injury. He had difficulty walking normally because he couldn’t bend both knees while walking (I had seen him walking) he came with a neck guard and two crutches to support himself properly while walking. I observed that two days after coming to the healing school, he started exercising his faith by moving around without the neck guard and crutches, that was how he moved around for two weeks. During the healing service, I was shocked to see the same man with his neck guard and crutches which he hadn't used for two weeks. Pastor Chris prayed for him and took the neck guard off as though it was a big deal, the congregation applauded and stood to their feet as he went on to take the crutches from the man; he then asked the man to walk. The man obviously walked but not any better than he had walked for two weeks without Pastor Chris praying for him.

After the service, as the partners left the hall, the students and the “healed” were asked to wait behind. I observed that one of the two ladies who got out of the wheelchair half an hour ago quietly sat back in her wheelchair with a pale look on her face, the people who brought her all the way from Benin didn't seem like they had seen a miracle; this puzzled me more. The borrowed wheelchairs were returned to the real owners as I looked with great surprise.

Please see the link below:
http://www.christembassyhealingschool.org/new/images/pdf/August2008.pdf
the lady in page 14 (in blue jacket) is the one I'm refering to in the last paragraph. She could both stand and walk before the ministration by Pastor Chris.

The young man in page 15 is reported to have been "unable to walk without a walking frame" yet I had seen him on many ocassions before the healing service walk around without that frame.

The woman in page 16 did not even come to the healing school with a wheelchair; the wheelchair you see does not belong to her

To be continued…
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Truthfullone19: 10:36am On Aug 14
Part 3: Don't forget people got saved at these meetings where crookery and all sorts were being carried out. Peter popoff was a major healing evangelist in the 80's and 90's and it took an unbeliever to pop that bublle which fooled others. He was a regular on Christian TV across the world and had thousands at his meetings.

I am not against healing, and I must state that as one who has deep workings of other major healing ministries on earth, I'm a firm believer of healing when pure, and not what is pushed through at CE.


SirJohn:
Many have wondered and would like to know the truth about healing and miracle claims from the healing school of Christ Embassy. I’d like say a few things about the genuineness of these miracles which have sparked endless questions. What I’m about to say may sound shocking to you but it is the truth. it is a first hand account of my experience at the healing school.

What you see on loveworld videos/TV, especially miracle testimonies no matter how believable they appear, are simply what Pastor Chris and his TV crew wants you to see. The truth is that a larger number of people including his pastors, partners and even you hardly ever know what goes on behind the camera scenes.

I was at healing school May 2008 session and the discoveries I made blew my mind and shook the very foundation of my faith. I spent a total of 4 weeks at the healing (it had two sessions and each ran for two weeks) this period of time at the healing school afforded me the opportunity to observe certain unusual happenings which I must reveal.

I have been a member and a consistent financial partner of the ministry since 2004. Pastor Chris Oyakhilome had been my role model, mentor, prophet and father. I have followed his teachings and doctrines to the letter so much that you couldn't talk with me for 10 Min's without knowing I was his follower.
I had taken someone who was wheelchair bound as a result of spinal cord injury to the Healing school with hope that Pastor Chris would minister to him at the end of the session (at least this is what I was made to believe from several healing school publications) but this was not to be, and the events that followed were shocking and beyond my imagination.

After the first session, there was to be a healing service where the students having received faith to be healed, were put on the healing line to be ministered to by Pastor Chris. This was where my questions started. The reason is that not only did we not make it to the healing line but several other folks with obvious physical disabilities were also not put on the healing line. I made efforts to find out the criteria for the selection that was made; this was what I found out:
I discovered that all wheelchair cases taken to the healing line for ministration were people whose conditions were not such that they couldn't stand or walk. in other words, the people you see popping out of wheelchairs  in those videos can both previously stand and walk. They are carefully selected through a process I will discuss later.

Secondly, to my utter amazement, I also discovered that several other people whom I had seen on different occasions walking around the hall unaided and without any sign of pain or disability during the two weeks session were put on wheelchairs or made to lie on stretchers during this healing service.
After much waiting, the “Man of God” walks in touching every one on the healing line and then proceeds to the wheelchair section; with one touch here and there he instructs them to get up “and they do” wild shouts of excitement reverberated across the auditorium as partners and pastors who have been specially invited to witness the miracles jumped for joy. I felt like sinking through the solid ground, I couldn’t believe my eyes. Once in a while I would utter a word of prayer, I’d say: “Lord please don’t let this be what I think”

I remember a particular man who came for that session; he had been involved in a motor accident which left him with a spinal injury. He had difficulty walking normally because he couldn’t bend both knees while walking (I had seen him walking) he came with a neck guard and two crutches to support himself properly while walking. I observed that two days after coming to the healing school, he started exercising his faith by moving around without the neck guard and crutches, that was how he moved around for two weeks. During the healing service, I was shocked to see the same man with his neck guard and crutches which he hadn't used for two weeks. Pastor Chris prayed for him and took the neck guard off as though it was a big deal, the congregation applauded and stood to their feet as he went on to take the crutches from the man; he then asked the man to walk. The man obviously walked but not any better than he had walked for two weeks without Pastor Chris praying for him.

After the service, as the partners left the hall, the students and the “healed” were asked to wait behind. I observed that one of the two ladies who got out of the wheelchair half an hour ago quietly sat back in her wheelchair with a pale look on her face, the people who brought her all the way from Benin didn't seem like they had seen a miracle; this puzzled me more. The borrowed wheelchairs were returned to the real owners as I looked with great surprise.

Please see the link below:
http://www.christembassyhealingschool.org/new/images/pdf/August2008.pdf
the lady in page 14 (in blue jacket) is the one I'm refering to in the last paragraph. She could both stand and walk before the ministration by Pastor Chris.

The young man in page 15 is reported to have been "unable to walk without a walking frame" yet I had seen him on many ocassions before the healing service walk around without that frame.

The woman in page 16 did not even come to the healing school with a wheelchair; the wheelchair you see does not belong to her

To be continued…
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Truthfullone19:
Part 5: The third part is equally as sad and the lowest of the low, so I'll deal with that and ask some thought-provoking questions to you all. After the so-called healings have died down and it's time for the word, if only others could see the faces of those at the healing school.

Dejected and confused as to what really is happening, with the very essence of their faith hanging in the balance, they are then gathered into the hall. The sick are told that when Pastor lays hands on you, the anointing abides forever, so it's in you for life. It is always stated that no one can come back to the healing school in life again.

Similar to the once-saved-always-saved doctrine, you can say once touched by Pastor Chris, you're forever loaded. Tales of how people got healed as they left the venue were told to the depressed healing school participants who were now getting worried. Stories of how people received healings weeks after Pastor Chris laid hands on them were repeated by Dele, Shola and co. I have to say these are some of the lowest of the low of life there is on earth.

The participants are reminded of how their confession plays an important part. They are told when you get vaccinated, the vaccine can take days to work, and that's how the anointing works when hands are laid on by Pastor Chris.

The sick are then told they need to keep confessing, speaking in tongues, and also see themselves as healed. They are told the best way to see themselves as healed is to make a video of themselves healed, watch it daily, and confess in prayers to God. Father God, the same way I see myself as healed in this video, I claim it. Call things that be not as though they were. Those who had polio were told to walk as they normally would, which is crooked, and then to walk as though they were healed, bending their body upright as much as they could and celebrating after walking upright as healed.

They did the same with a man blind in one eye. They gave him a set of numbers to remember, got him to read those numbers with his good eye, memorise them, then close the good eye and act as though he could read what was being shown to him. He did just that, while those cameras were blazing, and then he acted as if both his eyes were good. He celebrates afterwards. Those with partial hearing who Pastor Chris had prayed for, etc., also went through the same process. No completely blind person was prayed for by him, as it doesn't suit the script and hence them not qualifying for graduation.

We were told this was a video of faith, and this would be sent to people via DHL within a few days, to help with confessions and faith proclamations. All of a sudden, about two weeks after, my phone began to ring, as those videos were all aired on Loveworld as genuine healings.

Nowadays, they don't even bother with the third video, as that woman with the mic just shouts, "Look at all of them healed," whilst they limp off the stage. Occasionally, you'll see a few of them riddled with pain on their faces as they are ushered away.

These tactics have also been altered over the years; however, the framework still remains the same based on recent accounts of other victims.

The lady on Professor X's video with sickle cell had an experience that lines up with what others said.

So there you have the fullness of the scam at CE. Never thought I'll bring myself to write about this traumatic experience. I am only happy that I did not hold his ministry in such high esteem as I help one other. Three videos, all shot and, when required, brought up against those who try and expose them. Have you noticed most ministries have a so-called video of people who speak against them? Just asking.

So here you have it.

First video

The person comes to the healing school, with their own mouth, they are shown stating they are sick, they state where they are from, etc., and what they want.

Second video

Pastor Chris comes in, lays hands on the victim, he falls as people are told loads of times at the school, he or she gets up, is caught on video jubilating and waving their hands, shouting they are healed.

Third video

The person showing to the world that they are healed via a video of faith they were meant to make to help them see themselves as healed.

If a victim comes up, he or she would be asked simple questions by those who are swayed by the media might of CE. But I thought I saw you on TV. You said you were sick (1st video), Pastor came in and laid hands on you, and you fell and stood up jumping all over the place (2nd video), and you also showed a demonstration of your healing (third video)?

Have Christ Embassy members ever wondered why Pastor Chris cannot minister effectively at any other church? Recently, he's been with Pastor Hinn in America at his California studio, and not a single miracle there? He really has an atmosphere for miracles, as I can boldly say they are fake and staged. What sort of evangelist never has meetings in countries where the system to scam others isn't set up? Have you ever heard of Pastor Chris waking up and going to a country where there is no Christ Embassy to preach? He cannot, as he doesn't have the setting to scam people. Reinhard Bonnke goes and has been to everywhere there is on earth until he died, same with Hinn, Morris Cerullo, etc.


SirJohn:
Many have wondered and would like to know the truth about healing and miracle claims from the healing school of Christ Embassy. I’d like say a few things about the genuineness of these miracles which have sparked endless questions. What I’m about to say may sound shocking to you but it is the truth. it is a first hand account of my experience at the healing school.

What you see on loveworld videos/TV, especially miracle testimonies no matter how believable they appear, are simply what Pastor Chris and his TV crew wants you to see. The truth is that a larger number of people including his pastors, partners and even you hardly ever know what goes on behind the camera scenes.

I was at healing school May 2008 session and the discoveries I made blew my mind and shook the very foundation of my faith. I spent a total of 4 weeks at the healing (it had two sessions and each ran for two weeks) this period of time at the healing school afforded me the opportunity to observe certain unusual happenings which I must reveal.

I have been a member and a consistent financial partner of the ministry since 2004. Pastor Chris Oyakhilome had been my role model, mentor, prophet and father. I have followed his teachings and doctrines to the letter so much that you couldn't talk with me for 10 Min's without knowing I was his follower.
I had taken someone who was wheelchair bound as a result of spinal cord injury to the Healing school with hope that Pastor Chris would minister to him at the end of the session (at least this is what I was made to believe from several healing school publications) but this was not to be, and the events that followed were shocking and beyond my imagination.

After the first session, there was to be a healing service where the students having received faith to be healed, were put on the healing line to be ministered to by Pastor Chris. This was where my questions started. The reason is that not only did we not make it to the healing line but several other folks with obvious physical disabilities were also not put on the healing line. I made efforts to find out the criteria for the selection that was made; this was what I found out:
I discovered that all wheelchair cases taken to the healing line for ministration were people whose conditions were not such that they couldn't stand or walk. in other words, the people you see popping out of wheelchairs  in those videos can both previously stand and walk. They are carefully selected through a process I will discuss later.

Secondly, to my utter amazement, I also discovered that several other people whom I had seen on different occasions walking around the hall unaided and without any sign of pain or disability during the two weeks session were put on wheelchairs or made to lie on stretchers during this healing service.
After much waiting, the “Man of God” walks in touching every one on the healing line and then proceeds to the wheelchair section; with one touch here and there he instructs them to get up “and they do” wild shouts of excitement reverberated across the auditorium as partners and pastors who have been specially invited to witness the miracles jumped for joy. I felt like sinking through the solid ground, I couldn’t believe my eyes. Once in a while I would utter a word of prayer, I’d say: “Lord please don’t let this be what I think”

I remember a particular man who came for that session; he had been involved in a motor accident which left him with a spinal injury. He had difficulty walking normally because he couldn’t bend both knees while walking (I had seen him walking) he came with a neck guard and two crutches to support himself properly while walking. I observed that two days after coming to the healing school, he started exercising his faith by moving around without the neck guard and crutches, that was how he moved around for two weeks. During the healing service, I was shocked to see the same man with his neck guard and crutches which he hadn't used for two weeks. Pastor Chris prayed for him and took the neck guard off as though it was a big deal, the congregation applauded and stood to their feet as he went on to take the crutches from the man; he then asked the man to walk. The man obviously walked but not any better than he had walked for two weeks without Pastor Chris praying for him.

After the service, as the partners left the hall, the students and the “healed” were asked to wait behind. I observed that one of the two ladies who got out of the wheelchair half an hour ago quietly sat back in her wheelchair with a pale look on her face, the people who brought her all the way from Benin didn't seem like they had seen a miracle; this puzzled me more. The borrowed wheelchairs were returned to the real owners as I looked with great surprise.

Please see the link below:
http://www.christembassyhealingschool.org/new/images/pdf/August2008.pdf
the lady in page 14 (in blue jacket) is the one I'm refering to in the last paragraph. She could both stand and walk before the ministration by Pastor Chris.

The young man in page 15 is reported to have been "unable to walk without a walking frame" yet I had seen him on many ocassions before the healing service walk around without that frame.

The woman in page 16 did not even come to the healing school with a wheelchair; the wheelchair you see does not belong to her

To be continued…
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Truthfullone19:
Part 4: Let's go back to the healing school in which students graduate coincidentally on big nights of meetings. The only thing I won't take away was that one or two people seemed to have improved while they were there, and I literally mean one or two and nothing more than that.

These individuals, on the eve of the main night, were told they had to give honour to whom it was due; if not, the healing would leave them, and Pastor Chris had to lay hands on them to seal their healings. They were told stories of folks who felt they were improving, left before Pastor could lay hands on them, and because Pastor wasn't honoured, they fell sick later on.

Give honour to whom it is due was the scripture, and you guessed it right. One person in a wheelchair was told they had to be wheeled in the way they first came in, hang around the crowds somewhere, and get up when a supposed word of knowledge was said by Pastor. A lot didn't feel comfortable being given crutches to use and so forth, but who cares what they think? There's the big show to put on and a baying crowd to feed. The night before the healing school, students are told they have to confess any sins they might have spoken against Christ Embassy or Pastor Chris in person. Told they had to honour him if they were better and get off wheelchairs and crutches as a sign of honouring the supposed MOG.

You actually have to be there to believe it, and you look back asking yourself, could this really be happening?

So let's look at the wonderful night of the so-called healings. Pastor Chris comes into the venue, the crowd goes wild, he is driven to the healing school section where only selected members who fit the script are allowed to be seen by him, and I happened to be one of them. Those who can get out of their wheelchairs as an aid are included in those whom he gets to pray for on the big night.

Without sounding rude, a lot of us Nigerians assume anyone in a wheelchair cannot walk, but it's used the world over to help people move around, even those who can walk to an extent. I guess the lack of sidewalks, pavements and the stigma which means most disabled are hidden keeps us in the dark about them.

He comes out, walks straight to people holding their cards and begins to lay hands on them. Those individuals have been told they need to react (won't use the word act) in a certain way to be able to claim their healings. He lays hands on the people and wham, they fall (everyone with Darren Brown, the magician, and also Peter Popoff falls, as falling's the new style in church). Also, don't forget it's essential in receiving your healing, as you have to not struggle with the anointing.

These teachings are embedded into you at the healing school. They get up and, as taught in class, they have to call the things that be not as though they were; they have to jump, shout "I'm healed," etc., as that's how you claim a healing. This lines up nicely with the Word of Faith movement doctrine, faith, healings, etc.

The crowd at the stadium or building goes haywire and begins to speak in other tongues in an almost mad razzmatazz. That's the second part of the scam, all recorded on video.

Lest I forget, Pastor Chris returns back to the main stage of the auditorium and begins to call out so-called words of knowledge. There's a wheelchair over there. Lo and behold, on the big screen I see those who were sitting next to me for months at the healing school. Reverend Tom, his relative (crimes stay best in family cycles), comes up, "Pastor, there's a miracle over here," to which Chris replies, "Talk to me." "Pastor, he came here in a wheelchair, he couldn't walk, you gave a word of knowledge, he laid hold on the word of God and now he's walking." "Isn't that wonderful? Somebody shout alleluia" are the usual responses he gives the baying crowd.

Exaggerated cases of people desperate for miracles were called out by the so-called Reverend Tom. "Pastor, she couldn't see," and I'm sitting there wondering why the lady whose eyesight was slightly better was being portrayed as healed of blindness on the night. I guess being told she might lose her healing plays a part. Deaconess Gbadamosi, Pastor Dele, Pastor Shola are all wonderful recruiters of those who get scammed on this so-called glorious night. I guess all of those who purchase the so-called healing school magazine and give towards it only help spread the scam to more victims. Continued.....


SirJohn:
Many have wondered and would like to know the truth about healing and miracle claims from the healing school of Christ Embassy. I’d like say a few things about the genuineness of these miracles which have sparked endless questions. What I’m about to say may sound shocking to you but it is the truth. it is a first hand account of my experience at the healing school.

What you see on loveworld videos/TV, especially miracle testimonies no matter how believable they appear, are simply what Pastor Chris and his TV crew wants you to see. The truth is that a larger number of people including his pastors, partners and even you hardly ever know what goes on behind the camera scenes.

I was at healing school May 2008 session and the discoveries I made blew my mind and shook the very foundation of my faith. I spent a total of 4 weeks at the healing (it had two sessions and each ran for two weeks) this period of time at the healing school afforded me the opportunity to observe certain unusual happenings which I must reveal.

I have been a member and a consistent financial partner of the ministry since 2004. Pastor Chris Oyakhilome had been my role model, mentor, prophet and father. I have followed his teachings and doctrines to the letter so much that you couldn't talk with me for 10 Min's without knowing I was his follower.
I had taken someone who was wheelchair bound as a result of spinal cord injury to the Healing school with hope that Pastor Chris would minister to him at the end of the session (at least this is what I was made to believe from several healing school publications) but this was not to be, and the events that followed were shocking and beyond my imagination.

After the first session, there was to be a healing service where the students having received faith to be healed, were put on the healing line to be ministered to by Pastor Chris. This was where my questions started. The reason is that not only did we not make it to the healing line but several other folks with obvious physical disabilities were also not put on the healing line. I made efforts to find out the criteria for the selection that was made; this was what I found out:
I discovered that all wheelchair cases taken to the healing line for ministration were people whose conditions were not such that they couldn't stand or walk. in other words, the people you see popping out of wheelchairs  in those videos can both previously stand and walk. They are carefully selected through a process I will discuss later.

Secondly, to my utter amazement, I also discovered that several other people whom I had seen on different occasions walking around the hall unaided and without any sign of pain or disability during the two weeks session were put on wheelchairs or made to lie on stretchers during this healing service.
After much waiting, the “Man of God” walks in touching every one on the healing line and then proceeds to the wheelchair section; with one touch here and there he instructs them to get up “and they do” wild shouts of excitement reverberated across the auditorium as partners and pastors who have been specially invited to witness the miracles jumped for joy. I felt like sinking through the solid ground, I couldn’t believe my eyes. Once in a while I would utter a word of prayer, I’d say: “Lord please don’t let this be what I think”

I remember a particular man who came for that session; he had been involved in a motor accident which left him with a spinal injury. He had difficulty walking normally because he couldn’t bend both knees while walking (I had seen him walking) he came with a neck guard and two crutches to support himself properly while walking. I observed that two days after coming to the healing school, he started exercising his faith by moving around without the neck guard and crutches, that was how he moved around for two weeks. During the healing service, I was shocked to see the same man with his neck guard and crutches which he hadn't used for two weeks. Pastor Chris prayed for him and took the neck guard off as though it was a big deal, the congregation applauded and stood to their feet as he went on to take the crutches from the man; he then asked the man to walk. The man obviously walked but not any better than he had walked for two weeks without Pastor Chris praying for him.

After the service, as the partners left the hall, the students and the “healed” were asked to wait behind. I observed that one of the two ladies who got out of the wheelchair half an hour ago quietly sat back in her wheelchair with a pale look on her face, the people who brought her all the way from Benin didn't seem like they had seen a miracle; this puzzled me more. The borrowed wheelchairs were returned to the real owners as I looked with great surprise.

Please see the link below:
http://www.christembassyhealingschool.org/new/images/pdf/August2008.pdf
the lady in page 14 (in blue jacket) is the one I'm refering to in the last paragraph. She could both stand and walk before the ministration by Pastor Chris.

The young man in page 15 is reported to have been "unable to walk without a walking frame" yet I had seen him on many ocassions before the healing service walk around without that frame.

The woman in page 16 did not even come to the healing school with a wheelchair; the wheelchair you see does not belong to her

To be continued…
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Truthfullone19:
Part 2: Having gone to the healing school at Alausa Ikeja, it used to be held in the main ground of an auditorium that had some sort of zinc structure with pillars on it. The scam of the healing school is such that the victim is the one who uses their hands to shoot themselves in the foot. It is carefully scripted so that the victim makes himself a target if he tries to speak up.

Most other ministries apply the same method whenever anyone tries to speak against them and expose their tricks. I went to the healing school for an ailment and had always followed pastor Chris since the late 90's. The first part of the healing school is where you are interviewed and details of what is wrong is written and take note off. A video is made of each participant, stating thier names, Thier ailments, how long for etc. (Three major videos form part of the intricate scam which is used to fool the world and possible hold its victims to Ransom).

This here is the first phase of the scam. Those attending the healing school have to sign confidentiality forms stating not to speak of events at the healing school. You are then told to attend classes etc, and there are different groups of people within the healing school. Those with visible ailments (totally blind, totally crippled etc), none visible ailments such as HIV, diabetes, partial blindness etc. All sorts of stories are then told to people about the so called miracles that happen there, videos of crusades etc. On the outside it looks innocent and plain until you dig deeper.


As you attend the healing school, you are then also told that to secure your healing, pastor Chris must lay hands on you on the night of a major meeting, night of bliss, cross over night etc and that is the pattern. Attendees are told that failure to get hands laid on by pastor Chris would lead to a loss of healing along the line. Pastor Chris comes to the main meeting, they beam the video to the crowd, he lays his hands, so called miracles occur (I'll come to that part) and the innocent victims in that scene shoot themselves in the foot.

The usual teachings on confessions are taught throughout the so called time at the healing school. Some people attend the healing school for years and don't get to see pastor Chris, months and weeks depending on how visible their ailments are. The more visible the ailment of the person was who attended the healing school, and the the harder it is for CE to scam people with their tricks, the less likely they were to graduate and get to be prayed for by pastor Chris.

People attend the healing school and there is a massive filtering of those who the crowd get to see. As sir John stated, it is what pastor Chris wants you to see that you get to see. Those who can walk, but need wheelchairs as an aid are definitely classed as having passed their course at the healing school and qualified to meet pastor Chris. Those without visible ailments are also classed as having passed their course and qualified to meet pastor Chris. Topics such as how to receive your helaling are looked at and general scriptures on healing etc. Confession and acts of faith are taught to people.

Let's touch on the recieving part which plays into the script. The sick are told of how to respond when pastor comes into the room and how to receive their healing. Don't just stand there when he comes into the hall of the healing school, you have to learn how to receive a miracle. Don't stiffen your body but let the anointing flow. Faith calls the things that be not as though they are. When he lays hands on you, jump around, celebrate, scream I am healed, even though your body might not seem healed.

Anchor yourself on this part and go through healing school videos to see how they celebrate when they are touched by pastor Chris. With some woman in the background, you hear things like "the man of God walks into the room and lays hands on them, she falls on the ground, they are healed. Suddenly they stand up and are healed. They jump around, they wave their hands in the air praising God. I'm quite sure we've seen this many times.

Regarding falling, look up the ministries of Peter popoff who was exposed as using an earpiece to receive information on the sick from his wife, the info he passed on as words of knowledge were from prayer cards the sick had filled at healing classes, prior to the main meeting where they were to be healed. They fell under the supposed power, and were being deceived right under their noses.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Truthfullone19:
Part 1

Hi sir John grin (I love this emoji and only see it on this Nigerian site).

I'll recap what was posted years ago. These all happened in the early 2000's. My experience with Pentecostals churches on earth has helped me piece together how scripture and purported acts of faith are manipulated at the expense of the unknown victim (the sick) to portray them as healed.

For a ministry that goes this far to deceive people, the accusations of them paying people will not be far fetched. After all, if a person can sleep with a dog, they are capable of sleeping with pigs and all sorts of crazy animals, seeing they already have no morals compass.

Sadly I too was a victim of what I can only call the greatest scam in the modern day history of the Pentecostal church. A well played out scam which is enabled by the likes of deaconess Gbadamosi, Brother Dele, Pastor Shola, Reverend Owase, Reverend Tom and no other person but pastor Chris.

I experienced his scam all the way back in the early 2000's and had I not known the Lord, I sincerely would have walked away from the faith. Before you start reading, I ask that you speak to the Lord and as a believer expect him to give you answers. He's your father, so asking him to help you know truth is part of his will. I only could tell one person in the world about my experience that night after a build up from the so called healing school. I later on recounted it to one other person, but sadly they were too fragile and such a truth would break their bubble, so they refused to hear anything. Eventually they came round to knowing that it was all true.

I had always wondered why women could get raped and not speak, but abuse is something that takes years to speak about. Some of you wonderful sisters who were abused have never spoken about it, and some of you sick men who have abused other ladies sometimes live in fear of your victims speaking out one day. Weirdly, some do speak out and also some don't. Some of you men are actually in churches and walk around almost free, and if this can happen to guilty men, imagine the support a ministry like Christ has in suppressing claims made against them. From thousands of brainwashed members, to a media empire. Let's not forget that these are media ministries which have one way traffic, you only see what they want you to see.

I wish I get to meet sir John one day, for he is truly a blessing to those who seek truth. Sinach and all the rest of the families are also fully aware of the scams they portray to thousands of innocents and an audience wanting to be deceived. It's no wonder the ministry operates a system of nepotism and it reigns in that place. From brothers, to sister in-laws, to all you can name, you find the whole lot there. A system where total allegiance is required to continue fooling millions of people. Only a handful of people would even dare bring these accusations before the Lord, but would rather scream words like envy, bitterness etc. I do not know how the cry of people for justice has turned to bitterness, I guess only under Christ Embassy.

The same behaviour was revealed when their beloved mama in the Lord Reverend Anita decided to say adiós to the madness going on there. One of the only people allowed to climb the stage of meetings and wear the white suit, was suddenly called bitter by those who would have rolled over the floor Kandahaying and kabashing in so called other tongues, had she touched them. Suddenly, simply because pastor Chris portrays her as not valuable, like zombies they cast her away. The very same woman they had boldly told people had enough grace to live seperately from her husband. When people began to question the separate lives of the top echelon of Christ embassy, the new policy was pushed on to have certain church workers in different branches, simply to take heat off the questions about the marriage. A few weeks to the announcement of the divorce, the ministry pushed out a statement saying nothing was wrong, but I guess time was the best revealer of truths. At each phase, sadly the members morph into defenders of what ever line the ministry goes in, whether right or wrong. Continued...




SirJohn:
Many have wondered and would like to know the truth about healing and miracle claims from the healing school of Christ Embassy. I’d like say a few things about the genuineness of these miracles which have sparked endless questions. What I’m about to say may sound shocking to you but it is the truth. it is a first hand account of my experience at the healing school.

What you see on loveworld videos/TV, especially miracle testimonies no matter how believable they appear, are simply what Pastor Chris and his TV crew wants you to see. The truth is that a larger number of people including his pastors, partners and even you hardly ever know what goes on behind the camera scenes.

I was at healing school May 2008 session and the discoveries I made blew my mind and shook the very foundation of my faith. I spent a total of 4 weeks at the healing (it had two sessions and each ran for two weeks) this period of time at the healing school afforded me the opportunity to observe certain unusual happenings which I must reveal.

I have been a member and a consistent financial partner of the ministry since 2004. Pastor Chris Oyakhilome had been my role model, mentor, prophet and father. I have followed his teachings and doctrines to the letter so much that you couldn't talk with me for 10 Min's without knowing I was his follower.
I had taken someone who was wheelchair bound as a result of spinal cord injury to the Healing school with hope that Pastor Chris would minister to him at the end of the session (at least this is what I was made to believe from several healing school publications) but this was not to be, and the events that followed were shocking and beyond my imagination.

After the first session, there was to be a healing service where the students having received faith to be healed, were put on the healing line to be ministered to by Pastor Chris. This was where my questions started. The reason is that not only did we not make it to the healing line but several other folks with obvious physical disabilities were also not put on the healing line. I made efforts to find out the criteria for the selection that was made; this was what I found out:
I discovered that all wheelchair cases taken to the healing line for ministration were people whose conditions were not such that they couldn't stand or walk. in other words, the people you see popping out of wheelchairs  in those videos can both previously stand and walk. They are carefully selected through a process I will discuss later.

Secondly, to my utter amazement, I also discovered that several other people whom I had seen on different occasions walking around the hall unaided and without any sign of pain or disability during the two weeks session were put on wheelchairs or made to lie on stretchers during this healing service.
After much waiting, the “Man of God” walks in touching every one on the healing line and then proceeds to the wheelchair section; with one touch here and there he instructs them to get up “and they do” wild shouts of excitement reverberated across the auditorium as partners and pastors who have been specially invited to witness the miracles jumped for joy. I felt like sinking through the solid ground, I couldn’t believe my eyes. Once in a while I would utter a word of prayer, I’d say: “Lord please don’t let this be what I think”

I remember a particular man who came for that session; he had been involved in a motor accident which left him with a spinal injury. He had difficulty walking normally because he couldn’t bend both knees while walking (I had seen him walking) he came with a neck guard and two crutches to support himself properly while walking. I observed that two days after coming to the healing school, he started exercising his faith by moving around without the neck guard and crutches, that was how he moved around for two weeks. During the healing service, I was shocked to see the same man with his neck guard and crutches which he hadn't used for two weeks. Pastor Chris prayed for him and took the neck guard off as though it was a big deal, the congregation applauded and stood to their feet as he went on to take the crutches from the man; he then asked the man to walk. The man obviously walked but not any better than he had walked for two weeks without Pastor Chris praying for him.

After the service, as the partners left the hall, the students and the “healed” were asked to wait behind. I observed that one of the two ladies who got out of the wheelchair half an hour ago quietly sat back in her wheelchair with a pale look on her face, the people who brought her all the way from Benin didn't seem like they had seen a miracle; this puzzled me more. The borrowed wheelchairs were returned to the real owners as I looked with great surprise.

Please see the link below:
http://www.christembassyhealingschool.org/new/images/pdf/August2008.pdf
the lady in page 14 (in blue jacket) is the one I'm refering to in the last paragraph. She could both stand and walk before the ministration by Pastor Chris.

The young man in page 15 is reported to have been "unable to walk without a walking frame" yet I had seen him on many ocassions before the healing service walk around without that frame.

The woman in page 16 did not even come to the healing school with a wheelchair; the wheelchair you see does not belong to her

To be continued…
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Truthfullone19: 9:36am On Aug 14
Sir John has been saying the truth for years. He came out soon after he had his experience to tell the world. He received bashing, was cursed by loads of people and insulted by people who chose to be blind.


The world wants to be deceived, so let it be deceived" translates the famous Latin maxim Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur. Often used in philosophy, literature, and social commentary, it suggests that people often prefer comfortable illusions over harsh realities.


I experienced mine way earlier. Even those closest to me refused to believe this accusations. It was after many years they finally opened up, having watched the healing streams and seen a few people in agony after the camera forgot to move away from their intended targets.

I also handled a lot of queries on the other thread where pastor Chris raised 9 people on stretchers. Pastor Chris programme Atmosphere for miracles was a really a mockery of people, seeing he does need his atmosphere to create his type of miracles.

Another interesting thing is how CE members shift the goalpost. Some now twist the narrative to say that they are all healed by God's word, however that they also create an illusion so people would believe they are all healed.

I actually spoke to a woman this week whose sister died of breast cancer at the healing school. There are lots of others who have wasted time, funds and what was left of their physical strength visiting a scene that used their infirmities for their advantage.

What sort of man uses the infirmed to prop up himself if not a self proclaimed narcissist. Even in sickness you are still concerned about yourself and image?

Short man Eddie is part of this scheme, pastor Shola, pastor Dele, deaconess Gbadamosi, Rev Tom and others are all aware. The victims have no clue they are being manipulated into creating scenes that look as if they are healed. The scrutiny is getting much on CE and hence the swap to some online version.

These people are sick, that's all I can say. Sir John has been right. He had his experience in 2008 if I remember, I had mine years earlier. The worst thing is that even those close to you won't believe you. They run up to you and say, wow we saw you healed at the healing school which ties in perfectly with what I shared. People with non visible ailments are their perfect victims, uniquely suited to fit their script.

charleschosen:
So surprised, @sirJohn was actually saying the truth which i didn't doubted him, but many CE members and those who loved video shows than realities all came out to attacked despite the obvious fact and examples outlined by the poster. @truthone19 also came up which concur the message of sirjohn. Thank God for those who take heeds to the truth spoken by this people.
Today being 2026 after getting close to two decades, another big blow that truly confirmed 101% of @sirjohn experiences of 2008 are all glaring on the Internet. I had heard different sources from sirjohn sharing their experiences over the years but the story of this lady on YouTube who happens to be a committed member of CE is miind blowing. I came across the video on profexx channel which made me goes calm for a while without commenting yet on the channel is so huge to blow aside like the usual attitudes of false anointed. Please @sirjohn God bless you 🙌 and I can’t thank you less. But we need you back on Nairaland land for the truth has vindicated you from the mouth of the gainsayers.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Truthfullone19: 6:14pm On Aug 11
Sadly this madness is still ongoing, they have shifted the format to healing streams as it was too close for comfort.



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Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Truthfullone19: 6:13pm On Aug 11
Sadly this madness is still ongoing, they have shifted the format to healing streams as it was too close for comfort.


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Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Truthfullone19: 6:11pm On Aug 11
Hi sir John, you're back in the news again for good reasons.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcvzW7bYIhA?is=2flaTC2bgXR6nBNy



This scam is still running after all these years.




SirJohn:
Many have wondered and would like to know the truth about healing and miracle claims from the healing school of Christ Embassy. I’d like say a few things about the genuineness of these miracles which have sparked endless questions. What I’m about to say may sound shocking to you but it is the truth. it is a first hand account of my experience at the healing school.

What you see on loveworld videos/TV, especially miracle testimonies no matter how believable they appear, are simply what Pastor Chris and his TV crew wants you to see. The truth is that a larger number of people including his pastors, partners and even you hardly ever know what goes on behind the camera scenes.

I was at healing school May 2008 session and the discoveries I made blew my mind and shook the very foundation of my faith. I spent a total of 4 weeks at the healing (it had two sessions and each ran for two weeks) this period of time at the healing school afforded me the opportunity to observe certain unusual happenings which I must reveal.

I have been a member and a consistent financial partner of the ministry since 2004. Pastor Chris Oyakhilome had been my role model, mentor, prophet and father. I have followed his teachings and doctrines to the letter so much that you couldn't talk with me for 10 Min's without knowing I was his follower.
I had taken someone who was wheelchair bound as a result of spinal cord injury to the Healing school with hope that Pastor Chris would minister to him at the end of the session (at least this is what I was made to believe from several healing school publications) but this was not to be, and the events that followed were shocking and beyond my imagination.

After the first session, there was to be a healing service where the students having received faith to be healed, were put on the healing line to be ministered to by Pastor Chris. This was where my questions started. The reason is that not only did we not make it to the healing line but several other folks with obvious physical disabilities were also not put on the healing line. I made efforts to find out the criteria for the selection that was made; this was what I found out:
I discovered that all wheelchair cases taken to the healing line for ministration were people whose conditions were not such that they couldn't stand or walk. in other words, the people you see popping out of wheelchairs  in those videos can both previously stand and walk. They are carefully selected through a process I will discuss later.

Secondly, to my utter amazement, I also discovered that several other people whom I had seen on different occasions walking around the hall unaided and without any sign of pain or disability during the two weeks session were put on wheelchairs or made to lie on stretchers during this healing service.
After much waiting, the “Man of God” walks in touching every one on the healing line and then proceeds to the wheelchair section; with one touch here and there he instructs them to get up “and they do” wild shouts of excitement reverberated across the auditorium as partners and pastors who have been specially invited to witness the miracles jumped for joy. I felt like sinking through the solid ground, I couldn’t believe my eyes. Once in a while I would utter a word of prayer, I’d say: “Lord please don’t let this be what I think”

I remember a particular man who came for that session; he had been involved in a motor accident which left him with a spinal injury. He had difficulty walking normally because he couldn’t bend both knees while walking (I had seen him walking) he came with a neck guard and two crutches to support himself properly while walking. I observed that two days after coming to the healing school, he started exercising his faith by moving around without the neck guard and crutches, that was how he moved around for two weeks. During the healing service, I was shocked to see the same man with his neck guard and crutches which he hadn't used for two weeks. Pastor Chris prayed for him and took the neck guard off as though it was a big deal, the congregation applauded and stood to their feet as he went on to take the crutches from the man; he then asked the man to walk. The man obviously walked but not any better than he had walked for two weeks without Pastor Chris praying for him.

After the service, as the partners left the hall, the students and the “healed” were asked to wait behind. I observed that one of the two ladies who got out of the wheelchair half an hour ago quietly sat back in her wheelchair with a pale look on her face, the people who brought her all the way from Benin didn't seem like they had seen a miracle; this puzzled me more. The borrowed wheelchairs were returned to the real owners as I looked with great surprise.

Please see the link below:
http://www.christembassyhealingschool.org/new/images/pdf/August2008.pdf
the lady in page 14 (in blue jacket) is the one I'm refering to in the last paragraph. She could both stand and walk before the ministration by Pastor Chris.

The young man in page 15 is reported to have been "unable to walk without a walking frame" yet I had seen him on many ocassions before the healing service walk around without that frame.

The woman in page 16 did not even come to the healing school with a wheelchair; the wheelchair you see does not belong to her

To be continued…
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