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refreshrate:
For your calmness in responding i see you only need guidance.
Guy take that offer with both hands.

Youre not the one driving sef? Just to follow driver dey observe and you would given the truck after 3 years? (please clarify)
Ever heard at all at all na him bad pass? If you get a job at shell or shlumberger abi how dem dey spell am sef? and tomorrow you were asked to leave due to the prevailing price of crude would that suffice to you as a good lemon that wont upset your tummy? Or if it was a bank and because of sanusis policies were asked to leave just like that without prior notice, thats a pretty sweet big and juicy lemon right?

An entrepreneur is someone who is willing to do the type of things others wont want to do in order to live the kind of life others can only dream of living.

Not everyone has that spirit i must admit...truthfully its not for everyone.

For me i think its laudable what Dangote and Carlos are doing if yo can think through this rather than allowing your ego and emotions get to you.

How long is 3 years my brother? Wizkids first album is older than that (and hes been dishing out crap ever since) and in three years *visualize with me* this truck is yours.

You now begin your own haulage business, youve learnt most of the tricks of the trade in 3 years with your driver. So no driver can come and give you one story tomorrow. Youre turning in steady revenue, apply for a loan to get a second truck or maybe even buy one of your colleagues own and you now have two.

Then you keep at it maybe one truck is reduced to local trips youre able to get another or maybe even two, bear in mind in 3 years you have gained mad experience and established relationships along the way so no driver you hire can come and hoodwink you.

The principles of success dont vary beyond a + or - 5 variance from what i just told you.

if shell like make dem leave Nigeria sack all their staff, we are a consumer nation and supply chain distribution is one thing we wont ever do without.

I swear to you any complaints you wife had in these initial 3 years will die and you will become ehn? Super husband. Best part you dont need to leave home again na on top phone you go dey monitor driver(s) sebi they were complaining you were not home for 3 years, ahswear if your wife doesnt ask you to be leaving the house just so she can be free from the way youre always making her cook for you and the alarming rate of your eating eba, dont talk to me again.

Its an initial sacrifice but well worth it.

Sorry i misjudged you as unmarried, get your wife in line with the process. im yet to see the woman who wont fall in love (all over in your case) with a man who has a plan.

Once again thank you for ur well taught of response, u are right 3yrs is just down the line, and one may not even make enough to own a truck in that period, and also one could make more than that also.

Personally, I av a plan and a truck thing is not it, I have wot I do with which am satisfied to an extent. Bro getting a truck is good but just understand that 3yrs of ur life will be devouted to the project, am currently studying for my post graduate degree and I plan to have more degrees, u can't do that following a truck all through war torn places.

The risk outweighs the benefit, the life span of the truck on Nigerian road is less than 3 yrs, its actually 3yrs for developed economies, the conditions, paying for damages cos there would definitely be one case, what of robbery at night, what of the mischievousness of the drivers, they been there b4 u and would definitely outsmart u, cos dey would be wit the truck at all times,while u may decide to rest in a hotel. Oga so much to consider, finally how do u explain to your woman that you don't know how many times u would be able to be home in 3 yrs and u don't know which state you will be the next day.

I can go on and on

Nixon55:
Sure I understand your feelings. You have the right to turn down job offers using your own discretion. You have all the details to make that decision and it's entirely yours. This job(contract) might not be for you or for most people and I wouldn't even blame anyone for turning it down considering the high rate of road accidents in Nigeria. My point is that we hold to our degrees so tightly that it blinds us to salient opportunities.
Good luck in your quest for better opportunities.

U are right sir, some dudes do hold their degrees to high, but I can say that Nigerians are some of the most hard working peeps in the world, I have lots of graduates underemployed (by general standard) I know of graduates earning between 15 to 25k and I can tell u, I met a master degree holder who was earning 27,500. So change the we in ur statement to some or few sir.

refreshrate:
If life gives you lemons make lemonade using Dangote sugar.
If theres no insurance if you all come together as drivers, form a cooperative and sign up with an HMO to take care of the insurance thing would that not take care of the issue?

Im guessing like your colleagues most of you are not married, so the cover should be adjusted and initial fee reduced. Hey what do i know?

Last i checked staying at home sending out cvs, does not come with an insurance cover either.

Now i believe in the process of being out there in a process whatever it, no matter how crazy it sounds probably being the step you should take to open your mind to several other opportunities out there.

If after 400k kilometers the truck is yours, whats the difference between that and doing hire purchase from Stallion motors considering this one youre not even responsible for maintenance?

Call me stupid o, but im willing to bet somewhere down the line one person in this group with you will come and write autobiography of how he started an empire with this so called bad market of a job.

Just watch.

Too bad the only thing schools teach us is to have uncalled ego and absolute entrepreneurial inability.

Abeg no vex for me o.

PS my first job? i was earning 10k a month flogging the streets of lagos, lekki area to be precise and maybe you havent noticed the sun is hotter there than other parts of lagos probably the reflection from the sand. i dont know. i tell you no other job has given me more experience to value ratio like that one did.

If you havent noticed even oil companies are downsizing now cos of the market.

Please tell Mr Carlos waka for this chance and he should please cc. Dangote with it while hes at it.

Thank you for your observations, u made some valid point. Point of correction sir, u r not to be the driver, u r just to follow the truck where ever it goes. Sir please am happily married, you don't just judge that way from afar. My first job in Lagos was also 15k, I understand hustling cause that is still what I do. Owning a truck in 3 years is a very attractive prospect, but just put ur mind to how u would live for the 3 years. Its easier said than done that when life gives u lemon u make lemonade out of it, bros u don't make lemonade from every lemon cos some lemon are spoilt, rotten and outrightly bad. If u make lemonade from them, the damage the lemonade will cause u may never be rectified.

Nixon55:
You are so on point! Most Nigerian graduates think their degrees are worth gold or even diamond. This country graduates tens of thousands of people from different disciplines every year and the rate of job creation is so minute. I have seen people stay at home for several years all in the name of looking for the big jobs. Until people understand that global economy is in a mess and not going to be better anytime soon. Greece is a typical example. It used to be a developed economy but now going through hell. Greek banks have been closed for two weeks now. Let's us wake up from our slumber as young people and build our lives. The government can do very little.
FYI.. some people graduated from schools that costs over $40k a year and you have to compete with them!!!

Sir, my degree helps me to be able to decipher things and helps in making the right decisions. It shows me that there are better and more convenient ways of making it to the top, it doesn't guarantee me getting that dream job,but it helps me in creating my own brand. That the world economy is in shambles doesn't mean I should endanger my life for a purpose that is just out to benefit the business owner. What do you think the life expectancy of a truck driver on Nigerian road is? At the training we were told that a person dies every 11 seconds in motor related accidents, add that to what's happening up north, and that's where ur market is. Now this was the question I asked Mr Carlos, if after travelling with the truck for about 350,000km one was unfortunately involved in a ghastly accident and terrible damage was incurred on the person, what then happens, since there is no insurance or medical package and one won't be able to fulfill the terms of the contract. U can guess his answer............. Its a contract and the terms are biding, if the terms are not honoured then the contract is off, irrespective of the reasons.

HirstMOG:
If you have no idea about something just keep mute ok. The only thing you will benefit from the Dangote Group before the truck covered the 400,000km is 8k after every successful trip made. What can you do with that amount if I may ask My women went for the training don't think I'm just defendng the OP ok.

Its easier to call people lazy when u haven't experienced what they have firsthand. Anyone could be a critic but if u are in the same position the writer was, ur assertion would be otherwise.

Bro, just thank God ur woman came back safe and leave those who believed we all were just plain lazy and greedy, like I said they can find their way to Obajana on Monday and take up the offer.

About the 8k, it depends on the distance of your trip, u could get as low as 3k for some trips and this allowance is to be shared with ur driver and two motor boys. Basically, the money belong to the drivers. A lot more I could say, cos I took my time to ask mr Carlos lots of questions, lemme just stop here.

adconline:
Corrections - I would have preferred not prefer. . The truck costs not cost ... I'm or I am not am.. Where not were... You are going to self- destruct if you don't change your choice or attitude.
Let me put N20m in perspective for you. It takes someone saving N555,555k every month , 36 months to save N20m, so the diffrence
betwn the person who took that job without whining and you in over 500k every month. It might intrest u to Google " sweat equity".

Thanks for the corrections, next time I will becos of people like u proof read b4 posting. It easy to seat in front of ur computer and point out mistakes, everyone can do that it doesn't require any special skill. I don't need u putting anything in perspective, its my choice and that's why every offer has its own terms and condition. Am not good with the conditions and I walked away, go back to my post, u will see where I wrote that this is my opinion based on my emotions, way of life and more. So please spare me the details. Not every offer is for me, I make my choices and what u think doesn't count. Thanks

bookface:
Another graduate with self entitlement and delusions of grandeur. The fact that you went through the walls of a university does not imply that the world owes you a living. Labour jobs are not the sole preserve of the uneducated - neither does a university education exempt you from getting your hands dirty. You do not only sound rude, the manner in which you berate a job that many would have gladly accepted - but for lack of opportunity - leaves one with nothing but dismay.

How does Dangote enslave you by offering you a job - which pays, at least (i assume) the national minimum wage - and concludes with other offers such as the opportunity to take the truck with you after a set period of time? You had the right to say no - you did so - well done, move on and let someone else take the job if they wanted to - where exactly is the enslavement part? Here in the UK, there are PHD grads who work at the bar and earn the minimum wage - there's no shame in doing a honest work, if it provides you a living.

I bet many of you treat your maids/security guards to much worse offers.




The company is not happy to bear risk? You don't say - tell me who is? While in principle, this is not ethically right, it is not the company's responsibility to regulate itself. The company's sole preserve is bottom line profits - it is in its interest to cut down its cost, insurance claims, expenses - as much as possible. In a capitalist economy, the company is expected to do so, even if that meant exploiting the weak labour laws of the country. This is why as a citizen, you should vote representatives whose responsibilities will be to improve existing laws to make working conditions fairer for their electorates.

Another way to see this - if the company were to account for insurance costs for all its drivers, it would either have to hire less people ( which implies that you probably wouldn't have had the opportunity in the first place) or it will have to pass the cost on to consumers, which will somehow affect your wallet nonetheless.



Every company wants to determine your life, why single out Dangote? There are those in 9-5 jobs who spend up to 2 hours travelling in between - In the end, they spend their whole day working for the company and all that is left is the weekends and public holidays.
This is a tough job - you can take it or you can take a hike.




Is composing a good text message necessary to do the job? There are several jobs where the main requirement is a good work ethic and the good ol' common sense.




"insult on every graduate" - so you went to a school eh? and you think you are first of your kind eh? or you think you are now somewhat smarter than those who didn't?

Here's a bit of an advise for you - there are three ways to get by

a) If you have a skill set - either through formal or informal education - then sell it to the highest bidder and demand a premium for your skill

b) If no one is willing to pay enough for your skill, then roll the dice, monetize your skill set - set up your own business and see where the night takes you

c) If like any other "graduate" - your skill set is not unique or you cannot monetize it - then nothing makes you special really. You have to start really low like every one else and then work your way to the top, looking out for opportunities as they come your way.


I personally would likely hire a Dangonte driver - who tells me about his experience on the job, and the times he has had to make difficult decisions. To me, this person is likely very trainable, and will bring some soft skills -like negotiation, decision making - etc to my company. I would take this person any day, over someone else who spent the last three years of their lives- after graduation - doing nothing because they are too "cushy" for a driver job.

Well said sir, u really did a good job breaking things down and trashing them one after the other. I can't argue with u, but the job is not a driver job, its a motor boy job. Just ask about the rate of accidents involving trucks on Nigerian roads. The risk outweighs the benefit. The north is not a safe place and trucks travel at night. Lemme just stop here. Pls if u no dey naija, u can't understand the situation.

adconline:
Nigerians always want freebies! A unit of that truck with attached trailer is about N20million=$87,000 and u get to keep it after 3 yrs if u stick to the terms of ur job agreement . No pain no gain! The only people who owe you a job are your parents!
Btw, your grammatical errors are too much for a university graduate.

Mr brighter grammar thanks for the observations, but I would have prefer you correct dos mistakes. Even if the truck cost 300 billion dollars, I care less, have only expressed my views on the program and I think am entitled to that, and I do have a job so am not desperate. I bet u are from Ghana cos u said we like freebies? I didn't beg Dangote for money so I wonder were am asking for freebies, that I dont agree to the terms of the job doesn't mean am lazy or want everything on a platter of gold, its my choice. Mtcheeewww

400billionman:
Did anyone in Dangote Human Resources tell you that the transport officers will be paid N200 - N300 k per.month or you saw it in your dreams ?

For those who have no experience in transportation and logistics, for a vehicle called tokunboh, its active live span on highway transportation is 9 months. For brand new vehicles, its 3years. That's when the vehicle won't be breaking down often on the highways.

That's why 90% of drivers who sign a HIRE PURCHASE agreement can never fulfill it. Its a cycle of business deceit.

God bless u my brother, u are so spot on. Na gbese u would be carrying about. Its a win lose situation. One would never get the truck, and if u ever get it, it would be in a terrible condition.

ShakurM:
First of all, I can only commend what my role model ,Aliko Dangote is doing, he's doing what the government is failing and has failed to do.
I did my research, with an estimated salary around 200k - 300k and sole owner of the truck after covering 400,000kmh. Don't u dare think the job is below standard! because you have a Masters degree in such n such.To a smart graduate, an opportunity. Swallow ur pride.


Better to work than steal as there is dignity in labour.

I built a conglomerate and emerged the richest black man in the world in 2008 but it didn’t happen overnight. It took me thirty years to get to where I am today. Youths of today aspire to be like me but they want to achieve it overnight. It’s not going to work. To build a successful business, you must start small and dream big. In the journey of entrepreneurship, tenacity of purpose is supreme.” - Alhaji Aliko Dangote

Bros abeg where u get that fact that says one would be paid 200k, I swear na wash. The salary is just a stipend not more than 60k although we were not authoritatively told but one can deduce that from their body language. Well, that's ur opinion sha and u are entitled to it. But if u get to obajana today and hear for yourself what the job entails am sure that opinion will change

grandstar:
Thanks for the above clarification.

Why the Dangote's can get away with such is the due to the high rate of unemployment and underemployment.

If jobs were surplus, Dangote would treat potential workers better in order not to lose them. Its an employer's market and hence workers subjugation.

You are very correct sir.

grandstar:
Free the man! Is he the Red Cross? Is it his business to create jobs?

The government is the one that you should attack and not him!

It is the duty of the government to prove the enabling environment where the private sector can thrive and create plenty of jobs.

If government simply brings down lending rate to single digits i.e less than 10%, there will be an investment boom.

It will be cheap fo people to borrow and buy properties. Industrialist will borrow and set up factories. Miners will be able to borrow and buy massive machinery to mine big time. All these investments will create jobs.

PHCN is not the country's major Achilles heel. Its the cost of borrowing. Its too high.

Bros my aim is not to attack the man, and no where in my post did I attack his personality. I only opened this thread to bring to light what was going on and to advice others not to fall victim of traveling that far.
Dangote as far has I know has contributed his own quota to the development of the nation, so am not blaming him for the failures of our govt.

ECOTERRORS:
I can't imagine myself inside a Dangote truck with the rate of accidents that occurs with it.

Op, please don't take it because you might not live to enjoy it tomorrow. This is Slavery through the back door

My sister, I can't even take it, just imagine the expression on your mum's face when u tell her about such job. Yeye people

osizi06:
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D for dangote

The Dangote group of company earlier this year announced that they will be providing 28,000 jobs for graduate all over the nation. This brought smiles to the face of a lot of unemployed graduates and some even went into praying and fasting, soaking their CV's in annoiting oil and more.

Late May 2015 the vacancies were trending on every job site that Dangote is about employing Truck Officers. According to Mr. Carlos the man in charge of the recruitment about 21,000 applications was received in 3 weeks and out of those applications a few were selected of which I happen to be one. Reading through the job requirements and specifications, it was said that the company was in need of graduates who will become truck owners after they have managed, supervise, and take care of the truck, its drivers and the goods until it had travelled 400,000km


I got a message from a MTN number on Saturday 4th of July which goes thus

" U have being selected. U are to report to dangote academy obajana kogi state on the 6th or 7th of July 2015.go wit the following documents1,birth certificate 2,any means of identification3,affidavit of residential adress4,educational qualifications 5, letters from two guarantors who are verifiable,verification of document begins by 8am after which training and a text follows"

Looking at the message I was sure it was from those scammers but then I recieved a call confirming the authencity of the message. I decided to give it a trial, all through sunday I tried to get the credentials and documents I could get ready.

I got kogi late on Monday and had to lodge in a hotel for the night. Early the next morning, I arrived at the largest cement factory in west Africa and I must say it was a good sight to behold.


We waited at the door of the academy close to the restaurant an at about past nine the facilitators arrived, before their arrival,I had a chat with some people I met there and I found out that most of us were from Lagos with few from PH and a little from abuja. A lot of those guys slept at the park and some were looking so unkept due to the stress of the journey.


Then the real issues began. We were told that Dangote was about bringing in about 7,000 new trucks and the company needs supervisor who will become truck owners after the truck had traveled about 400,000 km ( Lagos to kano for about 200 times ). We were told that drivers of the truck will have a minimum of 8 trips per month while we as truck officers will be having a minimum of 6 trips per month.

Going by the calculations, one have to travel with the truck for about 3 years to be able to complete the terms and then own the truck. We asked about the terms and conditions and we were told that " this is an entrepreneurship scheme and we have no benefit apart from the monthly allowance which will still be decided, we have no right to insurance and medical" in short we are on our own.

We we're told that we would be at the call of the company to take the cement to anywhere the company deem fit in Nigeria borno and yobe inclusive. We asked if we can choose to work in any factory of our choice but we were told we would all have to relocate to kogi as that is where the chunk of the entrepreneurs are needed.



About the 28,000 jobs that was promised, here is the breakdown there would be 7,000 trucks, then we would have 7,000 Truck officers, one driver and two motor boy for each truck . that's four people per truck for 7,000 trucks and that's the 28,000 jobs the mighty Dangote promised.


My observations about the program are as follows:

1. The recklessness of the drivers has gotten beyond limit.

2. The company needs a way to curtail the excess of their drivers

3. As a capitalist, the company was looking for a way to enslave graduates with a promise of giving them a truck which efficiency would have worn out over the years a travelling Nigerian roads.

4. The company want you to bear any risk and pay for damages hereby freeing them from excess damages paid to victim of accidents when the insurance company had failed to pay due to the negligence of the drivers.

5. The company want to determine you life and they would plan it for you, they decide when you travel, where you go, when you rest without prior knowledge.

6. The company want to appoint ADVANCED MOTORBOYS who are trackable, traceable and risk worthy.

7. The company lacks the way and manner to communicate, or what can we say about their message

8. The company should learn and hire professionals for each sector not someone who can't compose a good text message.

Finally Dangote and his coy should please spare us the insult on every graduate and please think out ever proposal before coming to the public with it. After travelling for over six hours the company couldn't deem it fit to entertain, or pay for all expenses of the trip knowing fully well where we were all invited from.
The company had an office in Lagos so I can't comprehend the reason behind inviting all us to Obajana in Kogi state for a training that would only last less than 7 hours. Its a waste o time, resources and energy. A lot of us had to miss work and our pay was deducted for those two days. I had to get to Lagos 2 am on Wednesday cause I couldn't wait another night and probably get sacked in where man dey manage.


I heard that another batch would be called soon, please if you are on here and get the message please just ignore. They are bunch of unserious elements.


NB: this is my opinion based on my experience, emotions and way of life, at least out of all of us who had the training there was one person who saw sense in the program and did try to convince us all, but the whole room screamed on him to keep shut. So if this didn't make sense to you, find your way to obajana by Monday am sure the next batch will be having their training by then.