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plaetton:
The two most stupid religions ever invented by man.

"Love me or I will torture you".

If someone were to say these to your daughter or sister, would you not declare war on such a dangerous psychopath?

christianity is nt invented by man.

God is a supreme personality. Higher than the highest. He created you and u have to obey him. Supposing he killed u in your mother's womb, u won't be here spewing this rubbish. He is indeed a merciful God. that's why u are still breathing therefore, humble yourself before him. Let him change your life for the better.

frankii:
Why woo them, when you can just be friends with them? Guys abeg make we cool down. Is every avenue an opportunity to woo girls? Am not judging anyone ooo, but i guess its better to MAKE friends on social media first; then become close friends later if you like her personality. That way you don't get insulted anyhow!!

if u intend making friends with them, they will think u want to woo them or talk about s.ex. I dnt give a f.ucking about them anymore.

vivaciousvivi:
I agree with you. Please don't go and "embarrassed" yourself with them o. Keep to your lane Bro!

i'm not going to mess up myself with children. I'm too big for that.

plaetton:
Like I said before, r.ap.e and in.ces.t are the two intimate perversions that are universally condemned.
And incidentally, they are the two perversions promoted and glorified in your bible.
So you are being dishonest if you do not recognize your bible as a book of horror and perversions.

I am morally strong enough on my own, without any GEEZUS and any skymonster, to stay away from the intimate perversions glorified in your bible .

just be sensible for once. I have told you that in the beginning it was nt seen as incest but it was so after God placed a commandment against it. And i have also given u the reasons why God put a stop to it. As for rape, i dnt know what u are talking about.

plaetton:
Is there anything else that your faith offers other than threats of violence?

What kind of a philosophical system, a system of life uses threast of torture as it's only selling point?

Don't you realize that you are a slave to your fears?
Don't you realize that you are subconsciously envious of those who are free from and impervious to your fears?
That is why you have nothing but threats to offer them.

Amazing.
Simply amazing.

Jesus has set me free from my fears. We dnt preach fear, we only warn sinners to repent and take advantage of what christ did for them on the cross. He that is in christ is a new creature, old things have passed away; behold all things have become new. 2 cor 5:17. Failure to accept Jesus as your lord and saviour spelt danger because he alone can save you from sin including those sexual perversions.

Boomark:
Even those who call it the "law of Moses" knew that Moses made no law. Don't let the title confuse you. No man makes the law on behalf of God. The Pharisees added their own laws then, the same way most churches are adding their own law to the law of Christ today. These are man-made doctrines.

the laws of moses is the law God gave to the children of israel through moses under the old covenant.

@virginfinder. Just leave those guy, they just want to make you angry and at the end, make you to err. They dnt want to change but God can change them. Leave them for God to handle.

Ukutsgp:
1 cor 6:9-10

9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, a nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

see u tomorrow.

the keywords there is: homosexuals and sodomites.

Liekiller:
could you possibly put this into words that a normal person from the 21st century can understand?

is it french? U can't understand english again? Anyway, it is talking about those shameful perverts. the gays and lesbians(homosexual) and how they have plunge into such devilish acts that will result in eternal suffering in hell if they dnt repent.

plaetton:
R..ape and in.cest are intimate perversions.
Funny enough, they are the intimate perversions most practiced by biblical heroes.
Even more funny is the holy ghost itself is guilty of the r.a.pe of a young maiden called Mary, from whence came the supposed redeemer of your soul, according to your holy scriptures.
Funny how redemption is coming from perversion.

Therefore sir, sexual perversion is embedded in the very fabric of your faith.

You sir, are a certified pervert, because you worry about intimate things that other folks do in the privacy of their bedrooms.

what u think is irrelevant because the reality will stare at u later. I just pity you for going where you are nt supposed to. God has said it and so shall it be. Commit it and face the consequence later.

Liekiller:
gosh, the mindboggling C-R-A-P you people come up with to deal with obvious flaws in your unholy holy book!!!

God's book is holy. The word of God is forever settled in heaven. U can cry foul as u want.

Liekiller:
na true talk. Like all the "godly" priests abusing children, raping women, and whatever else they do. And all the "good Christian" family fathers cheating their wives with whores and school girls

those who refuse to do the will of God will perish whether they pose as christians or not.

plaetton:
From my experience, it is always irredeemable perverts that lose sleep over the intimate activities of others.

God gave the instructions. Keep it or perish.

Back to the topic. Seriously, those who practice any of those perversions are hell bound unless they repent. Some christians practice it without knowing.

malvisguy212:
moses commit acts of genocide? What about the egyptian who held them as slave?

dnt mind those guys. It is as if they lost their senses sometimes.

Liekiller:
1) as an atheist it doesn't matter to me what God instructs in the bible, because as an atheist I do not believe in any god. Not the Christian one, not Allah, not Shango. None of them. As a result, I do not see the bible as anything else than a book written by people. There are a thousand other manmade books that make a lot more sense to me in terms of offering guidance and instruction to be a good human being (yes, that is my goal). Apart from that I also use my own brain to figure out what's right and wrong.
2) the non-belief in god does NOT mean that everything is permissible. Quite the contrary. My moral standards are not based on threats of hellfire though but on a genuine desire to do what's right. Whatever harms others is not permissible.
3) I don't see why age would change any of this. After all I don't believe in the threats of hellfire.

then u have already seal your fate to perish in hell. U made the choice yourself.

olire:
lol, I'm not contending whether its a law or not. My contention is whose law is it, God or Moses. What u have pointed out above, especially the highlighted part shows that it was written by God himself. So then again, is it still Moses' law when God wrote it initially??

the first one was broken by moses so God had to speak and moses had to write it down himself. by the way, what do u intend to achieve by asking all these questions?

1 cor 6:9-10

9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, a nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

see u tomorrow.

Liekiller:
Did "god" say that? Or is it rather just your opinion? And why does it concern you anyway? You don't have to do any of it if you don't like it, but others doing it causes you and others no harm. So what's the point obsessing about it? Are there no REAL problems you could dedicate your time and energy to?

Roman 1:26-27

26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

plaetton:
Yeah.
I guess we can also say that hand was not made for f.ond.ling, or that breasts are only for infants.
Right?
Infact, we can go further by saying that pubic hair should not be shaved , and the pubic region is not made to be unnaturally bare.
Further, if god wanted you to fly , he would have given you wings, so why bother getting on an airplane?

The point is that if we had left the world the way your invisible skydaddy had supposedly left it, you would still be unclad in the jungle right now hunting rats for dinner.

this is so daft. u have to check the meaning of sexual perversion first.

plaetton:
I sense a big wave of cognitive dissonance in the air.

But god didn't complain when god practiced inbreeding.

Soyou are saying that what was good for abraham is not necessarily good for modern humans?

So we can say that the Descendants of Abraham are the products of a documented sexual perversion.

So god makes exceptions for things that he is against?

it either u obey God or perish in hell for disobedience.

plaetton:
The first bolded is the silliest statement I read this month.
It is important to distinguish between this type of incest and that type of incest?

WTF?

Are you sane at all?

I guessed you were a pervert.
Only a pervert could make this kind of hilarious statement.

it was not viewed as incest until God's command forbids it. if u do it, u are on your own. dnt be a pervert.

plaetton:
When you post things copied from sites, you should endeavor to acknowledge the source.

dnt u see a name there? at least i still have many books regarding the subject.

@plaetton and liekiller.


It is important to distinguish between incestuous
relationships prior to God commanding against
them ( Leviticus 18:6-18 ) and incest that occurred
after God’s commands had been revealed. Until
God commanded against it, it was not incest. It
was just marrying a close relative. It is
undeniable that God allowed incest in the early
centuries of humanity. If Adam and Eve were
indeed the only two human beings God created,
their sons and daughters would have had no
other choice but to marry and reproduce with
their siblings and close relatives. The second
generation would have had to marry their cousins,
just as after the flood the grandchildren of Noah
would have had to intermarry amongst their
cousins. The reason incest is so strongly
discouraged in the world today is the
understanding that reproduction between closely
related individuals has a much higher risk of
causing genetic abnormalities. In the early days
of humanity, though, this was not a risk due to
the fact that the human genetic code was
relatively free of defects.

It seems, then, that by the time of Moses, the
human genetic code had become polluted enough
that close intermarriage was no longer safe. So,
God commanded against sexual relations with
siblings, half-siblings, parents, and aunts/uncles
( Genesis 2:24 seems to indicate that marriage
and sexual relations between parents and children
were never allowed by God). It was not until
many centuries later that humanity discovered the
genetic reason that incest is unsafe and unwise.
While the idea of incest is disgusting and
abhorrent to us today, as it should be, we have
to remember why it is sinful, that is, the genetic
problems. Since this was not an issue in the early
centuries of humanity, what occurred between
Adam and Eve’s children, Abraham and Sarah,
and Amram and Jochebed, should not be viewed
as incest. Again, the key point is that sexual
relations between close relatives must be viewed
differently pre-Law and post-Law. It did not
become “incest” until God commanded against it

plaetton:
So, according to you now, god allowed intimate perversions in order to allow humans to multiply,thereafter, he outlawed them?

incest was not considered a sin
and was not prohibited for Adam and
early man. If the race was to populate
and fulfill the command of Gen. 1:28 ,
there is little doubt that Adam’s sons
and daughters had to have married
their own sisters and brothers if the
race was to populate the earth, but due
to the purity of the race as evidenced
also by the long length of life, there
were no adverse effects as we see
happening today. Gradually, as the
effects of sin took its toll on the human
race, marrying one’s own sister, etc.,
began to create hereditary problems.

Here is Ryrie’s comment on this issue
from his book Basic Theology (1986 ed)

Though by many inerrantists the
question of where Cain got his wife
would not be considered a problem at
all, this question is often used by
those who try to demonstrate that the
Bible is unreliable in what it claims.
How could it claim that Adam and Eve
were the first human beings who had
two sons, one of whom murdered the
other, and yet who produced a large
race of people? Clearly, the Bible does
teach that Adam and Eve were the
first created human beings. The Lord
affirmed this in Matthew 19:3-9 . The
genealogy of Christ is traced back to
Adam (Luke 3:38 ). Jude 14 identifies
Enoch as the seventh from Adam. This
could hardly mean the seventh from
“mankind,” an interpretation that
would be necessary if Adam were not
an individual as some claim. Clearly,
Cain murdered Abel and yet many
people were born. Where did Cain get
his wife?

We know that Adam and Eve had
other sons and daughters in addition
to Abel, Cain, and Seth (Gen. 5:4 ), and
if there was only one original family,
then the first marriages had to be
between brothers and sisters. Such
marriages in the beginning were not
harmful. Incest is dangerous because
inherited mutant genes that produce
deformed, sickly, or moronic children
are more likely to find expression in
children if those genes are carried by
both parents. Certainly, Adam and
Eve, coming from the creative hand of
God, had no such mutant genes.
Therefore, marriages between
brothers and sisters, or nieces and
nephews in the first and second
generations following Adam and Eve
would not have been dangerous.
Many, many generations later, by the
time of Moses, incest was then
prohibited in the Mosaic laws
undoubtedly for two reasons: first,
such mutations that caused deformity
had accumulated to the point where
such unions were genetically
dangerous, and second, it was
forbidden because of the licentious
practices of the Egyptians and
Canaanites and as a general
protection against such in society. It
should also be noted that in addition
to the Bible most other legal codes
refuse to sanction marriages of close
relatives.

plaetton:
So, according to you now, god allowed intimate perversions in order to allow humans to multiply,thereafter, he outlawed them?

there are reasons for that.

Liekiller:
where does it say that? In the list above I can only see WHO one is not supposed to have sex with, but not in which way

using ur pe.nis for the mouth and anus of someone else is a serious perversion. it is an unnatural use of that organ. sex is not for the mouth and anus.

Liekiller:
And why exactly should I not question and obey a god that was so obviously invented in man's image?

because u are not suppose to question God who is very far above u in wisdom.

plaetton:
Did god tell you what makes doggy style intimate position unholy?

i dnt know what doggy style is. But one things is that God hate intimate perversions such as oral, anal sex etc.

plaetton:
Ha ha ha.
This is hilarious.


In others words, murder, lying, stealing and idol worship was OK before the god ruled against such practices in the 10 commandments?

i think God permitted it so that human can multiply on the surface of earth. To fill the earth. But killing, and the rest are sins. Remember Cain and Abel saga.

Goshen360:
Following! !!

ok. Let's see what you got here.

Liekiller:
Haha. What type of "god" is that? He could have simply created more people then, right? Isn't that something a legit and reasonable god could do?

he is the potter and you are the clay. You dnt have the right to question what God does. He is far wiser than you. All you need to do is to obey his instructions and ordinances, then it shall be well with you.