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Ladies take note.

There are many things the death of christ freed us from, but it seems many christians are entangling themselves again with the yoke of bondage. Gal 5:1.
The law spelt out death penalty for sabbath offenders. Does it means today that, if anyone does any work on the sabbath should be stoned to death? The answer is no. Because christ has freed us from the bondage of the law. The law of the sabbath is no longer binding on christians. Just like circumcision and other laws has been abolished in christ Jesus. We can now worship God anyday we choose to cos we are free and free indeed. Let no man judge me in sabbath and the likes.

olire:
M already tired of all these arguments. God knows I have done my part, your blood won't be on my hands. He who has ears, let him hear!!!

which blood is that?

FrancisTony:
Even Angel Gabriel salutation was grossly misinterpreted.

"Chaire Kecharitomene" means Hail Perfect one not highly favoured.

my friend, shut up there. Perfect one indeed! All have sinned including mary. U think scriptures is ur useless traditions?

Mary fulfil the scripture which says ''go ye therefore and multiply''

FrancisTony:
Check verses I quoted while explaining brothers to know the mother that own those children.

which verses is that? Dnt tell me it was elizabeth that have those children?

Catholic church misinterpreting scriptures since 1900. Replacing scriptures with traditions.

FrancisTony:
I gave you biblical reference.

You still don't get it. Are you?

Provide a verse where they called them Mary's Son.

the bible said Jesus had other brothers and sisters and that translate to the fact that mary had other children. Why are u so dumb to accept this?

FrancisTony:
Last I checked, Jesus doesn't have a wife. I was just explaining with that analogy.





Did harm by giving birth to our Saviour? You mean God did more harm?




LMAO!

Let's compare and contrast who's taking bible literally.

1) Bible never mentioned Mary had other sons and daughters.
2) Bible never called anyone Mary's child apart from Jesus.
3) Bible mentioned Jesus brother and a deep search in the bible showed that they were Jesus relatives. One of the Mary that accompanied Mary the mother of Jesus to calvary, owned one of the child. Mary wife of cleophas, I think.

Protestant started forcing children Mary never bore to her.

Catholic said Mary never bore another child because it wasn't mentioned.

Who's going literally?

P.S- if Mary had other children, why would Jesus tell Apostle John to take care of his mother and Joseph was never mentioned and likely, something happened to him.





I mean why was Elizabeth favoured to receive her cousin(Mary), if she was ordinary.

keep quiet. U are ignorant of the teachings in the bible.

another one.

Jeremiah 44:16-23.


16 “ As for the word that you have spoken to us in the name of the LORD, we will not listen to you! 17 But we will certainly do whatever has gone out of our own mouth, to burn incense to the queen of heaven and pour out drink offerings to her, as we have done, we and our fathers, our kings and our princes, in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem. For then we had plenty of food, were well-off, and saw no trouble. 18 But since we stopped burning incense to the queen of heaven and pouring out drink offerings to her, we have lacked everything and have been consumed by the sword and by famine.” 19 The women also said, “And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven and poured out drink offerings to her, did we make cakes for her, to worship her, and pour out drink offerings to her without our husbands’ permission? ” 20 Then Jeremiah spoke to all the people—the men, the women, and all the people who had given him that answer—saying: 21 “The incense that you burned in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem, you and your fathers, your kings and your princes, and the people of the land, did not the LORD remember them, and did it not come into His mind? 22 So the LORD could no longer bear it, because of the evil of your doings and because of the abominations which you committed. Therefore your land is a desolation, an astonishment, a curse, and without an inhabitant, as it is this day. 23 Because you have burned incense and because you have sinned against the LORD, and have not obeyed the voice of the LORD or walked in His law, in His statutes or in His testimonies, therefore this calamity has happened to you, as at this day.”

FrancisTony:
Stop derailing....

I have answered you at the opening post.

hw did i derail the thread? ur answer is incorrect.

vest:
Guy I Do Pray To God Directly That Does Nt Mean I Dnt Need My Friends To Pray/Interced For Me! More Expecialy The Just Ones Who Are Already Now In Heaven Rd 1tim2:1-3

u dnt ask the dead to pray for you. mary is dead like other women. asking the dead to pray for u is a great sin

Jeremiah 7:18.

18 The children gather wood, the fathers kindle the
fire, and the women knead dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven; and they pour out drink offerings to other gods, that they may provoke Me to anger.

FrancisTony:
Your opinion- Your life.

You're indirectly saying Mary is a pagan goddess.

Goddess bore Jesus christ?

the one the rcc worshipped is nt even mary in the bible.

vest:
One Of Her Basic Function As Queen Mother Is To Interced For Us(her Children) Rd1king2:19-20

we dnt need her to intercede for us. we can go to God directly through Jesus.

FrancisTony:
1) Queen Mothers
http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/documents/mary%20the%20queen%20mother%20of%20the%20new%20davidic%20kingdom.htm

2) I don't know. But the roles Queen mother(s) played in the bible, should give you a clue.

pls i dnt click on link anyhow. u should paste the content of the link here.

let me tell u dat mary is nt the queen of heaven but a pagan goddess u people worship

JackBizzle:
Dont make me laugh.

Unicellular organisms existed before man. Many failed planets existed before man.


Stop being ignorant

u dnt hv proof for that.

FrancisTony:
Queen doesn't necessarily mean wife.

Check out biblical women that became a queen mother by their sons becoming a King.

show me. What is her functions in heaven as a queen like u said?

JackBizzle:
So is God responsible for the failed galaxies and planets?

Is God responsible for the cancerous aspect of the sun?

Did God fashion ebola and flesh eating bacteria from his supernatural hand?

it is man. Man has been destroying the ecosystem from its inception. Beginning from Adam when he ate the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden.

The world is fashioned by the supernatural hand of God. This can't be denied.

When did mary became a queen in heaven? Who made her the queen of heaven? So God is the king and mary is queen(wife)?

dein77:
Bro, unless one's eyes opened via revelation, one can't grasp the massive gulf that exists between the two worlds of the law and grace.

I don't keep ONE law; I only live as led by the Holy Spirit. Christ has fulfilled the physical laws and ordinances.

dnt mind them. It's ignorance that is their problem.

olire:
. The bible verses showed that the laws are orginally made by God not Moses. Or do you have another idea of who made the laws

so are u following the laws originally made by God through moses in its entirety?

olire:
Edited.

does that make my question void? Do u think we are justified by the works of the law? I pity u.

OLAADEGBU:
What are you offended about? Are you also insinuating that we should abandon God's commandments?

so u are the one saying we should abandon God's grace and follow outdated laws of moses?

OLAADEGBU:
How come? Are you not the one insisting that we don't have to keep God's commandments anymore?

how many of the laws are u keeping?

I have seen the absolute rubbish plaetton and liekiller have been posting since. I want to ask u if u still have any left to post.

mizcalvina:
am not looking for him ok? We re together already abt to get married

ok

OLAADEGBU:
The old serpent has not changed it's tactics.

u are that serpent.

@ enigmaotr


The Christian's Day of Worship

Is there a day which believers should set aside
to worship the Lord? There is one day-the first
day of the week. That is the day on which
Jesus rose from the dead, and it is also the
day He chose to meet with His disciples after
His resurrection. This was not a Sabbath day,
or a rest day, it was a day of ceaseless
activity. The Lord Jesus was very busy on the
resurrection day. The false conception of so
many is that Sunday is the Christian Sabbath,
and since the Sabbath is a day of rest, the
Sabbath laws are applied to Sunday. This has
resulted in untold harm.

The average Christian, instead of making the
Lord's Day one of service, has made it one of
rest and feasting. That is not the purpose of
the Lord's Day. That is merely a perversion of
the Jewish Sabbath day. Christians need to
wake up and to grasp the meaning of this
resurrection day. Souls need to be rescued
from darkness, and only the gospel of Jesus
Christ can accomplish this. "Therefore, to him
who knows to do good and does not do it, to
him it is sin" ( James 4:17 ).

One might say, "But I don't dare mention that
in my church; it would only stir up a lot of
trouble." That is true. It is hard to stand
against traditions, but I challenge each believer
to yield himself to the Lord in this matter.

Thus, by the example of Christ Himself and
later by the apostles, we see that the first day
of the week, known as the Lord's Day, was
especially set apart as a day of service for God.
Some seem to think that it is worse for one to
sin on Sunday than on any other day of the
week. I believe that this is wrong. The Bible
teaches that it is displeasing to God for one to
yield to the Devil on any day of the week.
Christians must live so that their consciences
will be void of offense before God every day. In
addition, they can make Sunday a day of
special worship and service.

@enigmaotr


Special Restrictions of the Sabbath Law

There are certain facets of the Sabbath law
that must be considered. First, a man was not
allowed to leave his home. "See! For the LORD
has given you the Sabbath; therefore He gives
you on the sixth day bread for two days. Let
every man remain in his place; let no man go
out of his place on the seventh day" ( Ex.
16:29 ).

Second, a man was not even allowed to work
or to build a fire: "Then Moses gathered all the
congregation of the children of Israel together,
and said to them, 'These are the words which
the LORD has commanded you to do: Work
shall be done for six days, but the seventh day
shall be a holy day for you, a Sabbath of rest
to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it
shall be put to death. You shall kindle no fire
throughout your habitations on the Sabbath
day" (35:1-3).

"Now while the children of Israel were in the
wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks
on the Sabbath day. And those who found him
gathering sticks brought him to Moses and
Aaron, and to all the congregation. They put
him under guard, because it had not been
explained what should be done to him. Then
the LORD said to Moses, 'The man must
surely be put to death; all the congregation
shall stone him with stones outside the camp.'
So, as the LORD commanded Moses, all the
congregation brought him outside the camp
and stoned him with stones, and he
died" ( Num. 15:32-36 ).

Since God gave the commandment of the
Sabbath to Israel in the land of Palestine,
which has a warm climate, it was very
practical. The law which prohibited building a
fire on the Sabbath would not be practical for
people living in certain climates, because they
could not very easily go without heat in the
winter.
But far more crucial is the fact that those who
attempt to keep God's Sabbath, which was
meant for Israel, immediately place themselves
under the curse of the Law. Galatians 3:10
makes this clear: "For as many as are of the
works of the law are under the curse; for it is
written, 'Cursed is everyone who does not
continue in all things which are written in the
book of the law, to do them.'"
James 2:10 states, "For whoever shall keep the
whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is
guilty of all." If a person fails to keep all of the
Law, he is under that curse. Anyone in this
category would do well to admit his sinfulness
and to come under God's grace, for that is his
only hope.

The keeping of the Law is an impossibility to
man in the flesh; no one can be justified before
God through it. "Is the law then against the
promises of God? Certainly not! For if there
had been a law given which could have given
life, truly righteousness would have been by
the law" ( Gal. 3:21 ). Only God's grace can
save us ( Eph. 2:8-9 ). Salvation is not the
reward for a holy life but the gift of God to a
sinner deserving judgment.

The Law was given to show the exceeding
sinfulness of sin ( Rom. 3:20 ; 7:1 ). To confess
that salvation by Law is unattainable by man
humbles him but exalts the holiness of the
Law. On the other hand, to claim salvation by
Law-keeping exalts man but lowers the
righteousness of the Law.

God has provided only one way of salvation:
"Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is
no other name under heaven given among men
by which we must be saved" ( Acts 4:12 ).

@enigmaotr


Paul and the Sabbath

What about Paul? He observed the Sabbath
with the Jews until he turned completely to
reaching the Gentiles. In Acts 18:4-6 Paul
cleared himself of his responsibility toward his
people, the Jews, and turned to the Gentiles:
"And he reasoned in the synagogue every
Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks.
When Silas and Timothy had come from
Macedonia, Paul was constrained by the Spirit,
and testified to the Jews that Jesus is the
Christ. But when they opposed him and
blasphemed, he shook his garments and said
to them, 'Your blood be upon your own heads;
I am clean. From now on I will go to the
Gentiles.'"
Before chapter 18 the Sabbath is mentioned
eight times in the Book of the Acts. The reason
for this is that Paul visited the Jew first and, of
course, that was most easily done on the
Sabbath, for the Jews kept the Sabbath. But
when he met with the church, he always did
this on the first day of the week. After Acts 18
the Sabbath is not mentioned once in the
Scriptures, with the exception of Colossians
2:16 : "Therefore let no one judge you in food or
in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon
or sabbaths." Here it is merely mentioned,
showing that it has been abolished in view of
the Dispensation of Grace.

It is also noted that the other apostles
observed the Sabbath together with the Jews,
but they did this only when they went to the
places where the Jews were. After Acts 18 we
do not find another mention of the Sabbath in
all of Scripture, with the one exception
mentioned above. Although the apostles met
with the Jews on the Sabbath day to be as
Paul said, "I have become all things to all men,
that I might by all means save some" ( 1 Cor.
9:22 ), when they met with Christians, or the
church, they met on the first day of the week
( Luke 24:1 ; John 20:19 ; Acts 20:7 ; 1 Cor.
16:2 ; Rev. 1:10 ).


From the above statements it can be clearly
seen that the apostles, including Paul,
understood very well the place and purpose of
the Sabbath. It was a sign for the Jews,
beginning with Moses and ending with the
crucifixion of Christ. It is interesting to note
that once the Jews are regathered and
recognize God as their King, the Sabbath will
be observed again ( Ezek. 36:16-38 ). Isaiah
56:2-3 also speaks of this time: "Blessed is the
man who does this, and the son of man who
lays hold on it; who keeps from defiling the
Sabbath, and keeps his hand from doing any
evil. Do not let the son of the foreigner who
has joined himself to the LORD speak, saying,
'The LORD has utterly separated me from His
people'; nor let the eunuch say, 'Here I am, a
dry tree.'"

Since the members of His Body, the Church,
are considered by Him to be neither Jew nor
Gentile, the Sabbath is not for their
observance. They are new creatures in Christ
Jesus: "For He Himself is our peace, who has
made both one, and has broken down the
middle wall of division between us, having
abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the
law of commandments contained in ordinances,
so as to create in Himself one new man from
the two, thus making peace." ( Eph. 2:14-15 ).
As we have seen, the Sabbath in God's plan
concerns only Israel. Note these truths: (1) the
Sabbath law was given in Exodus 16-2500
years after creation; (2) it was given as a sign
to Israel ( Ex. 31:12-1 ); (3) since Israel is
scattered, the Sabbath is not now observed;
the Law was finished, according to Galatians
3:19 , in Christ; (4) when the Jews are
reestablished as God's earthly nation, the
Sabbath will again be observed. Could there be
a simpler explanation than this?